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Hey guys! I am taking the LSAT in June. My diagnostic score was a 137 and my goal score is a 165. I have been studying for about a month but still have a lot of work to do. I am looking for people to study with and keep each other motivated. Here is the link for a GroupMe that I have started. I figured we can help keep each other accountable through this stressful time.

https://app.groupme.com/join_group/67069438/ZXgsonhz

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Has anyone else found their RC score dropped after they started taking online PTs? I started with physical LSATs, but switched to taking them online to simulate the flex layout. I feel like RC is much more difficult without being able to track viewpoints, tone, arguments, and main points directly on paper. Any advice for annotating on the digital LSAT?

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Hi everyone,

I would really like some advice on should I take the October 2021 LSAT. I'm an international student currently in Asia and was originally planning on taking the April, June, and July LSAT-Flex. However, as LSAC cancelled the July test this year and I'm not eligible to take the August test due to being an international student, I'm struggled between taking the October test or not. I've already registered for the April and June test, but I'm not 100% sure that I can reach my ideal score in these two attempts. Therefore, I'm just wondering does everyone think the October test's score will be too late for the 2022 admission cycle? (I know that theoretically we can get our scores back before Thanksgiving but I really wanna send out all my applications before November).

Any advice would help!

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Hello! As I work through problem sets, I'm realizing that I'm "spoiling" full-length practice tests. Are the problem sets meant to be worked through fully? Anyone have any strategies on how to save untouched PTs, while also getting enough practice before "graduating" to taking full-length PTs? Any advice would be appreciated. #help

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About me: I have studied the LSAT for just over a year, starting out in the low 150s to finally scoring 177 in the February test. It's been a tumultuous year with many ups and downs (including a 5-month 160s plateau, surviving pandemic NYC, studying while working full-time), and I have experimented with many study methods (took prep course, gone through most LSAT books on the market, worked with tutors). I've been lucky enough to receive a lot of help along the way and so I hope to give a little back (inspired by @vicxwwwww ✨✨).

DM me with (1) your current score and your target goal (2) a few key areas or topics that you want to focus on (be as specific as possible, see below!) (3) your preferred availability (4) target LSAT date, if available. I am currently based in NYC and am working full-time so scheduling might be limited. Sessions will likely be through zoom!

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Update:

-- Didn't expect so many messages, so responses might be delayed. Will try my best to reply but no guarantees!

-- Updates were made to information to DM, stick with the info requested above

-- DM, don't comment (having a hard time keeping track)!

-- When messaging, try to be as specific as possible i.e. avoid "want to improve on LG/LR" and instead try "want to focus on most strongly supported questions"

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After not hitting my score goal and realizing I didn't master enough of the test, I've decided to forego this admissions cycle in order to try to get up into the mid 170s. Wondering if anyone is up for weekly chats about general strategy insights, cookie cutter questions, specific problem sets, etc. I want to get into that 'zone' where you start to really see the theory of the test, if that makes sense. I'm best at self-study, which keeps me focused (after all we take the test alone), but would like to get into test 'theory', occasionally drilling things like question type strategy and logic game setup, that kind of thing—macro level stuff. I think that's the key to breaking into the highest percentiles. Anyone interested?

Thanks.

Jim

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I have had 7Sagers reach out regarding LG and many of them are at the -4/-5 range. A common thing I am seeing is that they are not BRing like they were in the beginning. BRing take on another role in LG once we have been doing it for a while. Yes when you are many PTs in and you can do sequencing games in BR at 100% accuracy what's the point of spending the extra time? The extra time put in is to help you speed up and make inferences even faster and thus allowing more time on harder games. Treat the simple games like you would the more difficult because you can get faster and maybe you can shave 10 seconds then 30 then 40 seconds off the easy games by seeing them and working them over to get everything out of them. Maybe this comes from knowing pressure points better and being able to cross out answer before even trying them. Or just setting up 1 master game board and because you are so proficient at the game now you would not need to draw another game board and you can see the answers "in your mind's eye" and if there is time after completing the section you can do double check. Just because we can complete the easy games at the time recommended does not mean we should ease up on the intensity of the game. If it is a simple sequencing and all the rules make one chain and it only has 5 questions I can do it between 3-3:30 with 100% and this allows me to gain 1 full minute or more to work on the harder games to come, and sometimes the extra seconds and minutes we bank on the easy is the difference between -0 and -3. This is because the set up normally takes X amount of time regardless of the number of questions. For example you are in the last game and there are 6 questions left and you have ten minutes. Set up takes 4 minutes because its a hard game and you did a partial split, now there is only 6 minutes for 6 questions, not a bad scenario, until there is not a single question that gives you an extra rule to work with now those extra 2 minutes would allow you to get to the last 2ish questions.

I realize that is an extreme example but I hear it all the time, "if I only had 2 more minutes." Plus having extra time going into games allows us to relax and not make mistakes because of our test day anxiety and feeling rushed.

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I'm a part of a group that meets in the evening on weekdays, and on Sundays. I'd like to get some additional group practice in via Zoom/FaceTime during the daytime (weekdays) and on Saturdays. I'm taking the April test and studying for it is going to be my main priority for this coming month.

I'm currently scoring in the 168-174 range, before Blind Review.

Let me know if you're interested and we can discuss schedules. I'm about to take PT 69 now and would love to review it later today or sometime tomorrow.

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Friday, Mar 12, 2021

"Usually"

Hello all, I'm having trouble with the word usually in LR questions. Can anyone point me to the section that covers this term, if any?

Thanks

#help

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I am retaking the LSAT and signed up for 7sage. Previously I studied with Powerscore bibles...do you recommend going through the entire course and kind of fast forwarding sections I feel comfortable with or just skipping around and focusing on weak areas (definitely logic games)? Also should the syllabus be done in oder or is it ok to skip around?

Thanks!

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Any advice on what era to focus in on? I feel like they're running out of undisclosed sections from the more recent testing dates, but I could definitely be wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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April LSAT is right around the corner and I am looking for a study buddy/accountability partner!!

I took the November LSAT and I am currently on several waitlists for school so I need a quick LSAT score increase. My PT last week was a 164 but I'm looking to get 166+ by April. If anyone is interested in meeting once/twice a week over zoom to talk through sections and keep each other accountable I would be super interested to work together :)

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All I can say is I am very shocked. I applied to all my schools back in September, right when apps opened. I pretty much got into the schools I thought and was waitlisted at the reaches and rejected at a super reach. Except one school that I had as a safety. The 7Sage predictor had me at a 99% chance for admittance. I was first offered a waitlist spot just a week after I originally applied- which I found strange. My GPA was over .5 higher than their 75th percentile and my LSAT was at the 50th. I hadn't heard back from them so I emailed last week and sent them updated grades. I told them I was already accepted into several schools and that I was very interested still. I was really hoping for a big scholarship offer. Disclaimer: I have already decided where I'm going with a deposit but always want to keep opportunities opened. They emailed back and said they would review my application if I wanted. Ummm duh I want you to review it, why do I have to email to have that done? At this point I was pretty pissed off and decided it wouldn't work anyways. They told me I would have a decision in 2-3 days. 8 days later, I get an email that a final decision was rendered...I got rejected. I almost laughed out loud. Out of every school I applied to, this was pretty much my lowest safety. I am in no way mad, because in reality I was not going to go there unless they were giving me a full ride and a Tesla. Does anyone else find this scenario strange? Not just the decision rendered but the way admissions handled everything? I've checked Law School Data and based on the admitted students on there, I would have the highest GPA and top 8 LSAT. There is nothing weird or red flags on my application. Could they just be yield protecting since they knew I got into much better schools? Any insight would be nice.

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Hello all,

After browsing through these discussions boards for hours on end, my LSAT journey has finally come to an end. I have seen so many helpful tips from all of you and so I wanted to give back and leave some of my own.

Background: I started studying for the LSAT in December of 2020 in preparation for the January 2021 exam. I figured that the LSAT couldn't be that hard. I was wrong. In my first month of studying I used bits of the Princeton Review Book, LSAC Prep Tests, and YouTube videos. It didn't work out as well as I would have liked. I felt unprepared for the real test and I ended up receiving a score of 152. I had signed up for the February 2021 exam as a back up plan, and so I had one month to figure things out. I decided to undertake a completely different strategy during the span of this month, which is the one I will late out here. Please note that although this may have worked for me, everyone is different and has their own goals so please pick and choose what may help you!

BIG TIP: You need time. I was an idiot for thinking that I could study effectively in the span of a month for both of these tests. Fortunately, it ended up working out for me but I think that it is best to allocate at least 3 months of serious studying for this beast of a test. Of course, if you don't have the luxury of time it's still possible, just harder.

Study Materials: I personally used the 7Sage Curriculum, LSAT Trainer, and LSAC Prep Tests. In my month of studying to increase my score I spent three weeks going through the 7Sage Core Curriculum, which is an absolute must to get a great theoretical backing behind the questions that will be asked. In week four I spent time working through the LSAT Trainer's discussions on LR and RC. In week five I did as many PTs as I could.

Logic Games: I sucked at logic games. In my first PT I missed about 15 questions, but by the end of studying it became my favorite section and I would only miss about 2-3 questions. To master logic games I followed the 7Sage Full Proof Method. The way that 7Sage organizes and explains the games is unbelievable. Do the games again and again, because frankly THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "UNIQUE" GAME. Ya ya there are some weird ones, but for the most part it's the same reiteration of a type of game. The more you do, the more comfortable you'll get. 7Sage was the only source I used to improve my logic games, and I would recommend it to anyone.

Logical Reasoning: Buy the LSAT Trainer. Seriously. The way the Trainer simplifies this section is fantastic. If you follow the Trainer's Flaw-based model I truly think that you will begin to feel much more comfortable with this section.

Reading Comp: I hate reading comp. It's boring, it's long, it sucks. In my opinion, there is no true way to master it other than read and read and read and read. Develop your own strategies of highlighting, not highlighting, or whatever you feel comfortable with. As you begin to see more and more passages you will begin to see that, although the topics change drastically, the structure of the passages remains pretty constant. The other big thing with reading comp. is mindset. Try to be interested in whatever they are talking about, it makes it much easier.

Final Thoughts: According to 7Sage I put in around 100 hours studying from the January test until the February test. Hard work pays off. But remember, one test does not define who you are or how "smart" you are. Don't let this test own you. Laugh in its face and continue to believe in yourself! You got this.

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