Hi all,

With today being the last day to sign up for April, I'm questioning If I should be signing up. April was my original goal date to take the LSAT. However, I've been studying since July 2020, and my score has been stuck at 157 for the last couple of months. I'm about seven years out of undergrad, and I work full time at a pretty busy, deadline-driven job. I generally study about an hour to an hour and a half each day. I have a 3.2 from undergrad, and I am hoping to get at least a 165 on the LSAT.

Given all this, is it reasonable to think that I could jump from a 157 to a 165 by the April 2021 LSAT date? Now that I've signed up for 7 Sage and am using the Powerscore books, I'm approaching studying a little differently. (Before this, I worked through the LSAT Trainer and old practice tests). I plan to apply for next year's cycle, so I still have time take other tests. But I also don't want to spend another four months studying If it's not necessary since I'm feeling kind of burnt out from juggling everything.

I also want to know how you knew when you were ready to take the test? Were you scoring where you wanted to when you signed up?

Reading comprehension has shown to be my weakest section, and I just cant finish all of the passages and questions within the 35 minutes. I am registered for the April test so I would really like to become more consistent and feel more confident going into RC, any suggestions?

So I've been studying since January with a goal to take the test by October but I've been finding it difficult to study for more than 1-2 hours a day and have fallen behind on the core curriculum and have had to readjust my study schedule several times. Initially, I should've been done with the core curriculum by February but now I won't be done until April and may possibly have to keep pushing it even further because I just can't hit the 26 hours/week goal. Is it crucial to go through every item on the syllabus or can I skip a couple example problems and problem sets here and there? I just don't want to be stuck in the core curriculum for too long and waste precious time I could be spending taking practice tests.

3 straight rejections and I just spent several hours looking over law schools that didn't quite make the cut for applications the first time.

Definitely feel like I may have submitted a few apps to the wrong schools. I also know that this whole exercise is the result of getting nothing but rejections thus far.

Anyone else in this boat?

That extra scholarship negotiation school and the extreme reach that sent me an unsolicited fee waiver seem like foolish decisions in the face of schools that have decent programs but we're pushed aside.

Related note, has anyone actually been to Davis, CA? Is it rural or suburban? Chill small town, government center suburb or tech town?

Hello,

I'm offering a few hours a week (or maybe more) of free tutoring in LR and RC as I prepare for the April Flex. My current PT average is 169 and I have hit 170+ multiple times. I feel this will help me as I prepare the next few weeks to maybe eek out a few more points. Looking for students scoring in anywhere between 150-165 as these are the people I feel I can help the most. Message me if interested with your current PT average with a breakdown of your average number of questions missed in LR and RC.

Happy studying :)

If law schools typically open for applications in the fall, and decisions typically come out in spring, what reason do people that take the LSAT in winter/spring take it then for? I figure if I want to perform at my best then the best time to take is as close to when applications open as possible (making room for the possible retake if needed) so that I have the more time to study for it. But it seems like a pretty substantial portion of test takers take the exam in winter/spring. Is it just personal schedule circumstances or am I missing something else?

@ People who took the February LSAT or are planning to take the April LSAT.

Hello, I'm looking for people to hold each other accountable to a regular schedule and to work through PTs/Practice Sets. I'm West Coast and work full time so I will only be available >6pm PST. I'm planning to use Discord which you can add me on as Azimoth#0071 or DM me for a link to the server (I don't want too many people randomly joining who won't be active).

Here's an outline of the study plan I was thinking:

Monday: Take a [time] Practice Set whenever you want, then we discuss what we missed later.

PT70 S1 (LR), 7:00pm review (what I'm doing this week)

Tuesday: TESTING TUESDAY! Take a [timed] PT with simulated flex whenever you want during this day.

Full Practice Test, PT87 (Simulate Flex) (what I'm doing this week)

Wednesday: Go over what we missed on the Practice Test from the day before.

PT87 review, 7:00pm (what I'm doing this week)

Thursday: Take a [time] Practice Set whenever you want, then we discuss what we missed later.

PT70 S2(RC), 7:00pm review. (what I'm doing this week)

Friday: day off

Saturday/Sunday: Take a [untimed] Practice Set together and talk through our thought process

PT70 S3 (LG). Work together, untimed. Time TBD

The next week will follow a similar schedule, working up in practice set numbers and down in practice test numbers so that by the April LSAT we'll more or less have covered the 20 most recent prep tests. We'll also rotate which section we do together so that we'll have experience doing each section type alone, and with each other.

This is not an inspirational post. This great community has plenty of that... just do a search. I suppose it's a request.

I've had a couple worrying and heartbreaking conversations with students/applicants this past week. These are challenging times; this test can seem insurmountable, this application cycle sucks, and people, in general, can be dicks.

But you are not your score, GPA, or admissions outcomes. Your worth isn't defined by the approval of others. Realize that if you've decided that you will succeed, nothing will stop you. Anxiety and stress happen when we worry about things we cannot control. We cannot control how a school goes about admissions decisions, family negativity, or how easily this test comes to us. We can control our health (moral, physical, and mental), our personal development, engagement in our passions, and relationships with others. No event or circumstance is inherently good or bad... it's our reaction that makes it so. As important as it seems now, this test and your applications cycle will ultimately be just another blip in the great story of your life. When we look back, what will matter is how we handled ourselves and how we reacted to circumstances that were less than ideal.

Sometimes it's hard to see those things, and thats ok. If you need help... if you are considering self-harm or some action of significant consequence that cannot be undone, reach out for help. This is one of many standard crisis hotlines:1800273TALK.

I cannot post contact info in the forum, but if you are reading this and need someone to talk to, DM me. I promise I will get back to you. If this post is still up, the offer stands. Whether you just lurk on this forum or post like an all-star. Whether its your first day here or third year. No matter what you're struggling with. I fought in Afghaistan and was an EMT, police officer, and counselor. Nothing you can tell me will be weird. If you feel like you have no place to turn to, please, as a favor to me, send me a message and lets talk.

Unsure of what people generally do when studying for the lsat, work or take work off and study full time?

It seems like a lot of people want to appear noble and work full time while studying on the side, and that may work for normal college classes, but i know the lsat is much different. It seems taking work off completely allows you to maintain low stress levels to achieve the best results.

Is it more beneficial to take practice tests along the way or wait to do them all at the end?

hi, i was wondering what the available time range for flex tests was for the international lsat-flex in previous administrations! i'm in kst but please lmk the time range that you had in your timezone if you took the international flex!

Hey guys,

I was wondering if there was a way I could take a 4-section LSAT, see what my grade would be for that, and also see what my grade would be if it were a flex. I would like to take the 4-section test to increase my exposure and test endurance and also because the August LSAT is a 4-section test.

On a side note, for someone who tends to do relatively well on logical reasoning, isn't having one less LR section a disadvantage? Pre-covid, LR was 50% of the grade and now it is only 1/3. Did they make up for that in some manner or does LR now just simply determine a smaller chunk of the grade?

Thank you!

Would you classify the stimulus as a set of premises or an argument?

I am bit unsure about getting letters of recommendation. I am an undergrad in engineering school (in my 4th year) who is looking at going to law school soon after graduation. I do not think it is very common for engineering undergrads to go to law school after graduation and so I don't really know how to approach the subject with any of my professors. I have worked with one professor outside of an academic setting, but I don't really believe I have a close enough relationship where they would be willing to recommend me for a field completely outside their field of expertise. Is there anyone else who has been in a maybe similar situation who might be able to provide any guidance here? Thanks!

Hi located in CA and work full time 9-5, looking for an accountability partner/study group who’s willing to motivate each other to study after work/weekends even if it’s just silently study together via FaceTime :)

I've been PTing tests in the 20's and 30's because I've done PT's in the 50's and 60's already. However after getting back to practicing in the 50's my score tanked. In the 20's and 30'Ss I am able to score -5/-6 in RC but I've gotten so many more wrong in the harder RC. Anyone deal with this and found a way to overcome? LMK. Thanks!

help Sorry if this is stated elsewhere, but I couldn't find the answer.

I plan on applying for law school in 2022/23, but would like to get the LSAT out of the way this coming summer. I know law schools are accepting LSAT-Flex during the pandemic for the coming year, but will they accept LSAT-Flex scores in years after? I know your score is good for 5 years, but want to make sure the flex will continue to be accepted. Would it be better to just take the full LSAT once it returns?

Also, should I keep taking full practice PTs or does the flex option suffice?

Thanks y'all!

Hey Guys so I’m deciding between FSU(Tallahassee) and SMU (Dallas )

I have a month to decide

SMU ends up costing more by at least $75 k over three years ... 98K more over 10 years when you include interest

SMU for me I feel like has better employment numbers especially since most students end up working for private firms

FSU students mainly end up working in govt jobs and get paid much less on average by 22k a year

FSU obviously has a much nice campus and is in a much prettier state overall not that Texas isn’t pretty

What are your thoughts??? Especially about FSU?

I feel like if I go there it would be a career killer

I definitely don’t want to be a public defender ... prosecutor ... personal injury attorney ... or a criminal defense attorney

I’m really into politics ... tech ( IP law & cyberspace law ) ... corporate law

The SMU student body looks like it’s more conservative which is a plus for me since I lean more conservative

If anybody is at FSU or SMU ... give me your honest opinion!

Studying for the LSAT can be so overwhelming. I often question if I'm studying correctly, studying the right materials, kicking myself for narrowing down the answers and always seeming to pick the wrong one of the two. But today, for the first time, I answered every single LG question correctly on a practice test. Was it my best score ever? No, but that's okay. Friends, please allow yourselves the little victories. You deserve them!

Hi Sagers!

Curious if anyone has used a computer monitor during their LSAT flex? Does anyone know if this is allowed?

Thanks!

Am I the only one who scores significantly better when I take the PT on paper vs the online version?! I can take the PT on paper and score 25-27/27 on RC sections but seriously struggle to hit 20/27 on the online versions on Lawhub, sometimes its even lower. It's not that I'm doing more recent or older tests on paper vs online either... I literally just STRUGGLE with scrolling to see/read the reading passages online and HATE that I cannot notate like I normally do. Trying to to highlight or underline online is hit or miss because half the time it underlines the words below or above where I want it to and I AM FRUSTRATED. Does anyone have any tips?? I know I could try taking notes on scrap paper but I feel like that wastes precious seconds and is just distracting. I feel like the online version is discriminating against us old-school folks who prefer to read and write on REAL books/notes vs virtual/online texts.

I was putting together a list of rules of thumb to remember when answering LG questions and I thought I'd share. I'd love to hear what others use! I typically try to remember the following:

Does anyone know how long a statement of need letter should be when requesting accommodations? Also, does anyone know how long LSAT takes for decision? Thanks so much.

Hi, would really appreciate any thoughts on this question. My understanding of the stimulus is as follows:

Support NT --> /chance of elect.

Und E -->/support NT

Conclusion: Und E --> Chance of elect.

I'm not entirely sure how the AC follows from this. Thank you in advance!

Does anyone know if/when LSAC will release copies of the tests from 2020?