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Hi everyone, wondering if i could get your help with Q23 "According to rational-choice theory, popular support"...

Would someone be able to help in explaining why D is wrong and A is right? I thought since D has "is never a complex phenomenon" while the stim conc says "simple", it's wrong, in which case I can't similarly justify A ... Thank you!

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What exactly does general principle mean? I see it constantly throughout the logical reasoning answer choices. Very rarely is it included in the actual right answer, but I would love to have a better understanding of the term and what would constitute a general principle, so that I can eliminate the answer choices more quickly. I have a basic understanding, but I feel like it is an ambiguous phrase for me at this point, therefore, when I see in the answer choices, I have to take unnecessary time to rule it out.

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Hi, I'm reapplying and I have an early decision deadline coming up very very soon.

Really need someone to look at a third version of my essay and provide feedback on content and structure.

Absolutely willing to provide feedback on any of your essays in return.

Any takers?

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My GPA is lower than the median GPA for the school that I want to go to, so I wanted to apply early decision to increase my chance of admission. However, I am taking the November LSAT so my application will be submitted before I get to see my score. My practice tests have been around the range that I would like to have for applying and is close to the school's 75th percentile score. However, I know anything can happen on test day and I'm not sure if this would be the best decision.Is this a good idea/is anyone else doing this?

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My understanding is that in normal times, water vapor from ocean contains a heavier proportion of oxygen-18. However, if that water vapor is not retuning to the Ocean during ice ages, but getting trapped in glaciers, wouldn't that mean the ocean has LESS o-18? I guess I'm assuming the water vapor is taking O-18 out of the ocean. But even if that's not assumed, what warrant do we have to say the ocean has more O-18 than usual?

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Hi all!

Looking to hear some info from other Ontario applicants! I know the last LSAT accepted by most schools is in January, and there are seemingly different opinions on waiting until then based on a significant amount of offers going out in Nov/Dec.

I personally know 3 people who wrote in January (none of them had widely high LSAT scores either!), who were accepted for that coming September to one or multiple schools. It seems that the January administration is becoming more and more acceptable for applicants and so I am interested in hearing the perspectives of others as I contemplate moving my November exam to get that extra month or two of practice!

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Can someone explain why B can't be a good answer? My logic was that everyone that reads the book agreeing that the incidents could happen, i.e. not implausible, doesn't mean that the story isn't implausible since they can well interpret it wrong.

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I don't know whether to be super sad or super angry right now, so I'll settle on both. My test ended up starting 45 minutes late because of "technical difficulties." NOT ON MY END; I checked everything the night before. On THEIR end, and they were just really unfriendly and unhelpful about it. I could not possibly hate ProctorU more if you paid me.

The connection kept on "dropping," according to them. I went through multiple technical agents. They told me to change my privacy settings, reboot my computer, and on and on and on.

By the time I actually got into the test, I was so flustered it didn't even matter that I'd studied for 9 months, felt 100% ready, and was eerily calm in the days leading up to the test. I already knew I wasn't going to do well, and I'm pretty sure I bombed the first half.

Now, luckily I was smart enough to sign up for November, so in another month I get to do this all again (joy!). I just feel like such a tremendous failure right now; like I wasted 9 months of my life, like it was stupid of me to dare hope I could do something as challenging as go to law school.

Commiserate with me, please.

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Hello comrades in misery! My name is Joey and I've been studying for the LSAT for over a year now. I've managed to score consistently in the mid-160's, but haven't been able to get close enough to 170 to feel comfortable going into the exam in a few weeks.

Brief rundown of my skill progression: I legitimately could not do logic games, timed or untimed, to save my life until a few months ago. I studied for most of 2020 and quickly realized LR and RC were my strong suits; I was always -2 or -3 on LR and -1 or -2 on RC. The games, however, were impossible (-10 to -15). Toward the end of 2020 I decided to completely take a break from studying for 4 months. Upon returning to studying, I became near perfect in Logic Games! Finally, I thought, that elusive 170+ was in reach... but that was not the case. In the time I took off from studying and the extra time upon returning devoted to LG, my LR skills significantly atrophied. I've been scoring consistently -4 to -8 on both LR sections of PTs for the last month and a half, and its been the most soul-crushing experience trying to figure out why what appeared to be a natural aptitude for me (and certainly is; I'm a bookworm and political theory major who gets unusually excited by a well-crafted sentence) has become the main thing stopping me from getting to where I need to be.

SO, AT MY ROPE'S END, I'M CALLING UPON THE COMMUNITY HERE FOR HELP. IF ANY 170+ SCORERS (OR EVEN VERY HIGH 160'S) WITH A PARTICULAR STRENGTH IN LR IS WILLING AND ABLE TO OFFER TWO TO THREE HOURS A WEEK BEFORE THE NOVEMBER TEST TO HELP A GUY OUT, I AM WILLING TO COMPENSATE YOU FOR YOUR TIME (WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE PRIVATELY)

Being a lawyer is an ambition of mine for intellectual reasons, but also for personal and familial ones. A little help- even to see how one of you thinks, how you approach specific question types- just might be the key to helping me get where I need to be to realize my goals. As a quick remedy, if anybody has any FLAW question strategies, drop 'em in the comments!

Much love to you all (and sorry for the long note),

Joey R.

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We're in the midst of test time once again, and I just wanted to take a moment to say that no matter what your outcome, don't forget to reflect on the little victories in the study process.

I hit 1000 karma points today and was super excited about it XD. While my first thought was "lol sis you need to do something other than comment on 7sage" my next thought was "Why do I comment on 7sage so much?"

And the answer is simple. It's because you all are such a supportive community. Seeing how much everyone wants to help each other makes me want to help others that much more. So cheers you all 7sagers :) Surely one of the best support systems out there!

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official October 2021 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the October LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Thursday, October 14, 2021.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

**Please keep all discussions of the October 2021 LSAT here!**(/red)

Update: October 15, 2021

Rules:

✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆‍♀️

You can say things such as the following:

  • “I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?”

  • “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”

  • “I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?”

    • ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅‍♂️

    You CANNOT say things such as the following:

  • “Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)

  • “The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)

  • “What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)

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    Just general lamenting here. Took the LSAT today and I did not realize quite how uncomfortable it is to take a test and not immediately know your score. I realize everybody is probably in the same boat but holy crap I wanna know my score haha. It like hurts. Anybody have any advice for getting my mind off it in the 2.5 week wait?

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    Another recent RC question where I feel like there's something I'm just not getting about RC. (D) seems well-supported to me: if forced to liquidate, a bankrupt company will only pay its lenders, and through a fire sale/liquidation. With the reorganization system, the business restructures, in a way that should allow them to pay off more than just their lenders, but other stakeholders as well.

    With (E), "finance the establishment of a new business," I get that it's vaguely supported by the notion that lenders may charge more if reorganization is the system rather than liquidation, but this seems like a needle-in-a-haystack inference and I'm still not seeing what makes it any better than (D).

    Taking the LSAT on Tuesday and I swear RC will be the death of me. I'll get -0 LG and -0 or -1 LR and then bomb -3 or -4 RC and have to retake. Unless you wise people can help, lol.

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    I feel like there are a lot more recent-test RC questions that have me scratching my head. I understand the LSAT writers are extremely skilled and make their questions bulletproof from challenges/ambiguity, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how (A) is better than (D), or how (A) is supported in any way.

    The notion of the crop geneticists being "too willing to further intense efforts to maximize the land's agricultural output" just makes no sense to me in the context of the passage. All the author basically says is they've tended to focus their research and thinking on the North American varieties, and then notes that the North American methods seek to "maximize the land's output for economic reasons." If there were an article about how some scientists have tended to focus their research and thinking around GMOs, could it be reasonably inferred that the author of such a passage would agree that the researchers are "too willing to further GMOs"? It makes absolutely no sense to me. (D) on the other hand, makes a lot of sense to me because it seems natural and supportable, based on the lines around "crop geneticists," that the author would agree that the reason the geneticists have taken an interest in the heirloom crops is the fact that they can maximize yield.

    I love the old RC tests because I could get -0 relatively easily: just stay focused, understand the structure, know where the key info is located, and find the pertinent lines that support the correct answer for each question. On recent RCs I'm consistently getting -2 to -3 and I feel like there's something I'm just not getting but I don't know what that is.

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