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Hello everyone, it's ya boi lsat_sus.

Today marks exactly 1 year since I got on 7sage. I started with a diagnostic of 148 (PT 78), and I remember thinking "fuck that," and began my LSAT process.

Over the past 11 months, I went through the CC twice, took ~20 PT's, re-took each individual section at least 3 times, and fool-proofed games 1-45. In the end, my average PT score was a 156. Fuck yeah.

Then I remembered a quote "insanity is doing the same shit over and over when it doesn't fucking work." So I switched my strategy. I listened to the podcasts, and decided to work with a tutor. I looked at my budget and reached out to Mr. Daniel aka @canihazJD. He just gave off hellaaa good vibes and yes, that was the sole basis of my decision - I'm a proud millennial, fuck you boomer (jk).

This man literally transformed my game. I spewed every single thought that popped into my mind (sorry Daniel) on every single question and he slashed all the useless parts and affirmed the important parts. In such a short time, the CC and explanation videos started making sense. I used to hate when JY says "who cares," but now I love it. It saves me time. "Holy fuck," I said. Those 11 months were not a waste.

After ~4 weeks of sessions, I am so grateful to have scored a 172 timed, 176 BR. That's almost a 20 point jump. Daniel literally carried me harder than SKT Faker in 2013, and YES.. it's a flex PT.. It's not a real exam.. it's luck.. i'm a 'lil bitch.. but a win's a win and Ima bask in the ambience of my hero's journey. My family's proud, my girl likes it (wink wink), and I just need to execute on the upcoming LSATs.

LET'S DO THIS BABY! THE LSAT IS SUS AF.

Hi! My name is Olivia and I just began studying again to retake the LSAT in October 2021, I’m hoping to improve my score from my previous LSAT in January 2021. Myself and two other 7sage contacts have a study group and are looking to see if anyone else would like to join us for accountability, help, support etc.

I am practice scoring just above the mid 160's and would like to get to solid high 160's by the October LSAT. If anyone taking the October LSAT is interested and scoring around the same range let me know through 7sage messages and I’ll add you to our What’sApp!

Hi, I'm studying the lsat in South Korea and was wondering if there was a tutor I can study with.

Hello folks,

I have a question about improving my LG score. I consistently get around -1 on my BR for logic games but somehow I always get 3-5 questions wrong on the actual test. Getting a good BR score does not seem to be translating into a better actual score. Does anyone have any tips for this?

Thank you!

Hi all!

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For LSAT addendum,

I want to say at the end (in 3-4 sentences) that I will grow and discuss how I'd prepare in the 6-10 months leading up to the first day of law school. Is this unnecessary, bad idea? Do you think it'll hurt? The addendum is about 2/3 of a page without this language.

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I have many schools on my list for which I'll be below median for both GPA and Addendum.

GPA by .1 to .3 points. LSAT by 8 to 12 points.

Would it seem too desperate to apply very very early? I have a friend who went to HLS who recommends that I apply asap.

He believes that I have a decent shot due to my unique story.

I can take LSAT once or twice more time but I dont think the score will improve by much. I'm about in the middle of my PT averages. If anything I'm going to try to take the LSAT really late in the cycle if I'm on the waitlist. Otherwise I'll reapply next cycle with, hopefully, a better LSAT.

I appreciate all your thoughts and input.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and respond.

I am looking for a study buddy/accountability partner for studying. My PTs are in the high 150s and I'm looking for someone in the PST. Please let me know if you're interested! I'm planning to take the October test.

I'm a lone LSAT studier and always see people posting on here looking for study buddies or creating very ~exclusive~ high scoring study groups

I'm genuinely interested in what y'all do--taking August LSAT so prob a bit late to join this party but just out of curiosity, if you've ever had a 7sage or reddit study buddy what did you do together? Review exams? Vent about LSAC? Moral support?

Hi everyone,

Foremost, I appreciate everyone for reading my post. I am wondering what I should do when I am done with the CC. I intend to do every PT. I am wondering what steps I should follow when doing the PTs. For example, do I take a timed test and blind review? Should I compile a wrong question note? Could you please share exact steps you took for approaching each PT?

I know that they are precious, so I don't want to just burn through them. Please help.

In arguments, we're supposed to take premises as facts and question the conclusions. But intermediate conclusions are both used as premises (to support the main conclusion) and as conclusions in and of themselves (albeit subsidiary ones).

So how would you treat them if you were trying to evaluate the validity of an argument? Is is acceptable to attack or challenge a sub-conclusion? Assume we have a weaken question-- would we ever see an instance of a correct answer attacking the causality of a sub-conclusion?

Here goes...

I took the LSAT, got a 156, waited a year and retook and got a 156. In that time my average went up, average before was a 156 and average a year later was a 164. I hit 162, 164, 165, 166, 168, 169, and 172 (once) the second time around. I had decided to just move forward and not retake for a third time but now that I am looking at how little money I will probably get, if any, I am worried.

For those wondering, I did practice in simulated sessions, didn't stop my tests, and reviewed each test I took about 3 - 4 times. I think the issue was that I took a lot of PT's in the late 40's - 60's range and not enough new prep tests. And honestly, I feel like the old PT's were easier. The 2 real tests I have taken felt considerably harder than the PT's and I choked both times on LG.

I say all of that to ask what should the plan of attack be moving forward? This time around I would focus solely on the new PT's and redo those I took in the past. But more than that, how do I prevent choking on logic games and improving my RC/LR sections?

Lastly, I had decided to not retake because I am burnout and frankly tired of this entire process. I am not sure that realistically I actually would do better on a real test. I almost submitted a score appeal but even LSAC say's "any differences in scores earned on practice tests versus actual tests are highly unlikely to indicate a scoring error" and I've read that people only marginally do better when they retake. So, I am also wondering if I should even do it.

For reference, I have a 3.9 and graduated with Latin Honors, and other honors.

The top 3 school's I want to get into LSAT medians.

160, 162, 168.

25th percentile.

157, 156, 164

The 164/168 is obviously a dream school. But I am thinking of applying ED, and I am a state resident.

I am debt adverse but honestly also LSAT for a third time adverse.

To prep for the August 2021 LSAT, I have been taking the 4 section PTs. Does each PT on the 7sage website have 2 sections of LR or does it rotate? Thanks!

Help. I'm kind of having a hard time distinguishing the difference between two question types' question stems. To me, they seem to have the same question stem except PSA question stems has word "justify?" and Principle questions don't have it? Am I right to use this approach? If not, how do you guys differentiate those two? Thank you so much in adnvace!

Hi everyone, I'm looking to take the October/November exam and am looking for some advice. Is it reasonable to think I could get my score up to at least a 170 on the test by that time? I'm starting from a 154. If it is feasible to be in the 170s by that point, how should I approach studying within that time frame? If it doesn't sound feasible, during which month should I take the test? (For reference I'm going into my junior year of college and will need the score by July 1st)

I am looking for what books are a good resource for improving RC. Already read the LSAT Trainer and the Bible and they helped but am looking for more improvement and timing.

Should we apply to a target or reach school for early decision? Does anyone know what is considered as a target and reach schools according to 7 Sage Admissions Predictor?

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Hi! I am looking for a accountability partner for the October Exam. I work full time so preferably someone who will be studying in the evening and on weekends. I would also love to join any group chats.

Hello everyone! Is anyone looking to start a study group for the August LSAT test date? I'm looking to see if anyone would like to form a group to go over RC sections, as well as PT's. Let me know if anyone would be interested and we can start a group. Happy studying and we got this!

Hey 7 Sage Community!

The course has been very helpful and I started from a 143, on my first diagnostic to the early 160s (180-163) range. I'm starting to hit a slump where I don't really know how to progress as of a week ago. Does anyone have any overarching strategies they've used to break through their slump periods? I'm hoping to get out of this slump, even if it's by one point. Testing Date: August 2021.

Thanks!

Hi! I have been doing older PT (1990s) and I was wondering if I should just focus on more recent ones (2007 -->) . I am planning on writing my test in August. I have read that that later tests are harder but I have been scoring significantly better on those than in older tests. Any recs? or should I study both.

Hi everyone! I am applying to law school this upcoming cycle and have some concerns regarding what to include on my resume. I've done a lot of work on social media [YouTube] to promote my experience at my current undergrad institution [I essentially post weekly vlogs and advice videos geared mainly towards out of state students like myself who may not know much about my college prior to applying/enrolling]. It's something that I'm really proud of, but I'm worried that talking about social media roles may come across as unprofessional to admissions. Any advice? I have other relevant and more professional experience that I'm including, but I feel like I would be missing something if I didn't mention my social media experiences at all.

Thanks for the help!

hi all! i'm struggling with overconfidence errors in RC – my range for timed RC goes from -3 to -6, and during BR, i usually only manage to catch half of the errors. today i took preptest 71, got 5 wrong in timed RC, and didn't catch any of them in BR, so i'm a bit concerned.

most of my mistakes stem from falling into trap ACs, while the others seem to be coming from, oddly enough, some level of underconfidence (?) i.e. i look at an answer, think "no way that's it," and pick another answer after overanalyzing, only to find out my initial guess was right. in any case, i finish RC with around 2-3 minutes to spare, so i think i'm having some serious issues with accuracy. i've tried using the remaining time to come back to flagged questions and review the stimulus again, but i still get them wrong. that, or the questions i get wrong aren't ones i flagged.

any advice on how to study would be appreciated; for what it's worth, i'm taking the august test. thanks so much!

edit: forgot to mention i write out VIEWSTAMP for each passage on scratchpaper, if that's helpful.

Hello All, I am having a very though time with the LSAT. Is there's any book or tutor out there anyone know that can help me, I would appreciate it.

thank you.

Hi all!

I recently took the June LSAT, and I scored a 158 - right in my PT range (155-161), so I was happy with the score. I currently work as an engineer, and we are back in the office now that most in the company are vaccinated, so I do not think I will have as much study time to improve my score as I did for the June LSAT. I graduated undergrad in 2020 with a 3.64 in civil / environmental engineering. Are my odds good enough for a scholarship to law school? Any advice would be much appreciated. You guys rock!

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone tried to solve the game using multiple game boards? It seemed do-able to try splitting game boards, but I keep going down a rabbit hole with too many options and especially, for the last question, seems like several answer choices are possible if I look at my boards.

Any suggestions welcome!!

Thank you,

Megha

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