I noticed that the way the core curriculum is structured has you taking one diagnostic PT very early on, and then has you complete the entire course before taking another PT (and then at that point, it's just PT after PT until you run out).

Is this the actual recommended way to study? Would it not be beneficial to sprinkle in a few PTs throughout the core curriculum to see how you're progressing?

Curious how you all have tailored your 7Sage and LSAT studies to fit your needs, and would love to hear what worked best for you (or if the 7Sage prescribed path is in fact the most fruitful method). Thanks!

Hi, I posted on here before talking about free group tutoring, especially in LR (see post linked below!)

I wanted to let everyone know (and possibly some new people as well) that the time/topic has been finalized!

The group session will on Wednesday 12/2 noon/12pm GMT+9, or 10pm EST. It should go on for around 1.5-2, or so, and I'm going to be covering, roughly, the following topics:

Afterwards, I'll be going through an entire LR section and talking through my approach. If you want to follow along, please have PT20 S1 in hand.

Join the following zoom link @noon/12pm GMT+9, or 10PM EST!

https://middlebury.zoom.us/j/5528647080?pwd=TTJUM0lDV2ZxbEFvTXRjRWVXRVJEdz09

with password 686121

Conf Id 552 864 7080 also works with the same password. Thanks, and see you soon!

If you can't make the time, I'll try my best to schedule a second session, so please let me know.

ORIGINAL POST LINK: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/26466/looking-to-tutor-students-of-all-ranges-for-free

Hey guys,

I am currently averaging a -4 to -2 in LG. I have been in this range for two months now. Do you have any tips on how you overcame this hurdle? I think I scored a -0 only once ever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

So I took the November LSAT for the first time and scored a 159. I had been studying part time after work and on the weekends since mid June, so I probably put in a solid 3-4 months of study for about 8-10 hours a week. I was scoring 161-163 in practice tests and feel that I could still improve. I feel like I'm under too much pressure to apply this cycle but am worried about waiting another year due to my age.

Been working full time the last 4 years in project management in commercial construction.

Does anyone have any thoughts or have been in a similar situation?

Hi there,

I am an LSAT tutor and former 7Sager that regularly scores in the 175 area and I'm looking to help people out by offering a free Zoom class! I know games is the hardest section to be naturally adept at, so I will teach you guys some of the tricks that I use and teach my students.

Date and time are Monday the 30th, 7pm Eastern

DM for Zoom link

This discussion is for those who are feeling overwhelmed in the process of studying and preparing for the LSAT.

I started with a 129 diagnostic mid-October, I have about six weeks left until the January LSAT and I've improved to a 152 today.

I remind myself it's okay to take a mental break and recoup, keep practicing, stay strong, and don't forget to breathe!

I am aiming for a 170.

I wanted to make sure I was doing correctly, are we supposed to BR every question immediately after done or just the ones we had troubled/skipped?

Hi all! I'm looking for an RC tutor. I feel like this is the one section I cannot improve on despite almost a year of studying and I think I'd benefit from some help.

Hello 7sagers!

@Christopherr and I have been working on a project for you. Given that the May 2020 LSAT-FLEX is now up on 7sage, we know that students will be taking it in preparation for the January LSAT administration. It will still be a little while until the official 7sage explanation videos are up, but we want students to have a reliable way to have their questions about the PT answered in the meantime.

So, @Christopherr and myself both took the May-2020 FLEX under timed conditions and blind reviewed the test. Christopher has written out explanations for every question and answer choice from the RC section, and I have done the same for the LR section. Attached below are links to all of the explanations. Both documents have an outline that can be opened from the column on the left side of the document. This will allow you to select the particular question or passage you want to look at without having to scroll through the entire document.

Hopefully these will help some students who are struggling with some of the confusing language in this PT. If you have any questions about any of the explanations feel free to post them below or shoot either Christopher or myself a DM!

RC Explanations Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1et6ww1nf9GlK2ZvfjUA72RyI6BQdDtDMqTd_BW92AhA/edit?usp=sharing

LR Explanations Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3nrTS7Pe4pE7j5c8O60uJwtf7-vrUsg_aakivEH0zY/edit?usp=sharing

Don’t forget to give @Christopherr a big “thank you” for all his work with the RC section on this test. That was a beast!

Hi all,

I recently upgraded to a new Mac with the silicon M1 chip. Any tech-savvy people know if I might have any issues with proctor U? I've heard that some software has issues because of the new chips

hey everyone, i had a question about writing an addendum in regards to your lsat score.

if you have a score that is 90th percentile or above, but you do not meet the median for the school to which you are applying (for example if you are applying to it as a reach school) is it acceptable to write an addendum? or would that seem like you are just making up a reason for not meeting their median?

thank you :)

Hi guys, I’m a little confused with how the study schedule is set up. I know it starts with core curriculum but when I build a schedule it makes it so the only “lessons” in the last months are practice tests. Is that really how I should be studying or should I incorporate other things like drills and what not towards those last few months or should I truly just be taking full length tests and blind reviewing? Thanks in advance

Hello , I have finished the CC and taken the PTs up to 42 so far. I will most likely do the April Flex and wanted to know how many and which PTs should I take for score improvement (~15pts) . I do not want to take the flex without having enough pts under my belt and also was concerned about saving some in case of a retake. Thanks so much!

Looking to make SIGNIFICANT score jumps. Anyone else in the same boat and willing to help each other stay motivated/accoutable? even form a study group? not planning on testing again until at least April, more likely June

Hi guys , really need some suggestions here. I am a 36 yr old mother and don't have much time to prep and wait to get into school. I took my first LSAT ever in Nov 2020 and scored a 158. I did purchase the score preview. I am based in Canada and will only be applying to Canadian Law schools. Can anyone suggest if I should keep my score or cancel it? I will be taking the January exam and hope to do better, but then that'll be the only score I have and I really am looking to start school in fall 2021, keeping in mind the age considerations.#help

Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to review incorrect LR questions. LG is obvious because you can redo the question/do the five step method and redo a similar type. But I'm unsure how to tackle LR questions I've gotten incorrect. Any advice is appreciated, best.

Hello Everyone!

After looking at the results of the poll I put up about what sort of free tutoring opportunities people would like to see, it is clear that (by a relatively small margin) the people have spoken and BR calls for full length PTs has a plurality of support. Therefore, that is what I shall do. I want to involve students as much as possible, so here is another poll. You let me know what era of PT would be most helpful and I will select one from that era that I think presents particularly noteworthy pedagogical opportunities (likely a challenging RC section among other things). Once I have these results, i'll make an announcement with more details, a PT choice, and a date within a day or two! Thank you!

Hi there! I've now completed my three day pity party from my sad sad score on the November LSAT. Like some of you, I underperformed and got a low 150s score where I had been PTing in the low 160s. My goal is a 165. I'm strong in LG and need improvement in LR and I'm okay in RC.

I've been popping around different forums but decided to take the reins and form my own small group of folks (likely no more than about 10-12) who are testing in January. I would love a mix of folks who are PTing from anywhere in the 150s to the low 170s ( I'm really interested in our collective ability to both help one another learn and also teach/reflect back). I'd love to meet a minimum of twice a week (and we can discuss later how we want to structure).

Y'all, I want to start asap next week. We got seven weeks and I feel that we can all make the gains we desire - I know that I just need some help. My background is in producing and casting for the theater, so this will be a highly organized endeavor lol, and my priority is always ensuring effective communication. I'd like to move fairly quickly, so if you are interested, please DIRECT MESSAGE me, with the following information:

(1) Email

(2) Timezone

(3) General weekly availability

(4) Goal score

(5) Strongest section:

(6) Section that needs most improvement:

(7) Favorite show that you are bingewatching now (I'm bingewatching a lot of anime!)

Once the group is set, I'll be sure to come back to this post and let folks know. Thank you in advance for reading and I look forward to working with you!

How do you find out when a decision had been made for your application? Like do you have to keep checking your application status or will they email you/send a letter?

Wanted to do a study write-up because I read a bunch of these while I was preparing for the LSAT, hope it helps a couple of people. I began studying in January, diagnostic of 148, then took Aug-Oct-Nov (163, 163, 167)

Study materials: LSAT Trainer, PowerScore Bibles, Loophole, Blueprint for RC, 7Sage. I think these were all great resources, and even the ones that weren’t necessary taught me a couple of things that helped out in the long run. HIGHLY recommend 7Sage—JY’s videos are unparalleled and the subscription is comparatively cheap. Also listened to the PowerScore and 7Sage podcasts, which I found really helpful. As an aside, not going to post link, but online library websites do have a majority of free PT PDF’s if you are not planning on getting them through LSAC.

LG: My strongest section, all due to 7Sage. I averaged -0 pretty early on in my prep, even though I did notice I was slower at grouping games for some reason. I pretty much did every logic game at least once, and then re-worked the ones I struggled with. Key for me was to get really good at making inferences up-front and splitting whenever possible, learning when to do so became natural after lots of practice and drilling. Find the split-node, and just do it— I know you might be worried about timing issues but: accuracy > speed, and in the end I was usually faster when I split. Work on conditional logic, it is necessary if you want to score below a -5 in the section; if you read unless or [either or, but not both] and don’t immediately think negate sufficient/bi-conditional, you’re doing yourself a disservice. Get good at chaining up rules, especially for in-out games and linear. I also was soooo worried about having a Misc. game come up on my first test, so I spent alot of time working on them even though I didn’t get any on any of my three tests; take a look at the classic Misc. games, but try not to get too caught up in them, focus on mastering linear and grouping games first. Also, do not fret over skipping a hard question and going back later. I routinely entered the fourth game having skipped around five questions that I just didn’t seem to understand quickly, and after I went back at the end I was able to figure it out easily. Always keep moving and don’t get stuck, whether it is in regards to a singular hard question or a game that is difficult.

LR: Second best section, didn’t really struggle on a specific question type‚ it was more of an overall missing the harder questions. I really liked Loophole, and how it built on the Core Curriculum foundation I had through 7Sage—I would definitely recommend the book. I made a big jump late in my studies from averaging about -5 to -1 after listening to one of 7Sage’s podcasts, I don’t remember exactly which episode it was but it was one of the first five. JY and a student were talking about their speed and skipping strategy in LR, and it was something I focused on and it was arguably the biggest thing I did to raise my score. I felt confident enough that I could zoom through the first ten questions, usually in about 5-6 minutes where It took me about thirty seconds a question (confidence is key). I slowed down a bit towards the middle of the section, and often skipped three or four questions that were difficult, but I would have about ten minutes or so to basically do a second run through of all the questions, which is where I would pick up on mistakes, or use the extra time to figure out a tough question. It takes time for you to build up that speed, and you definitely have to be making sure you aren’t missing any of those first ten, but if you figure out the cookie-cutter and simple questions at the beginning without second guessing yourself, you’ll have so much extra time left over at the end. Learn the classic flaws, get good at conditional logic, and work on your skipping!!

RC: My enemy. I tried everything for this section; I bought every RC book from every test-prep company, I blind-reviewed, I slowed down, I sped up and read passages twice, and the lowest score I was able to get was -4, and it definitely wasn’t consistent. What helped out a bit though was to write a single sentence/ word per paragraph during timed run through’s. I found this would slow me down, which I wanted, and helped me connect the paragraphs in my mind. I also blind-reviewed the section after and used PowerScore’s VIEWSTAMP method, which was useful. I switched up my approach for the November test, and actually slowed myself down while reading considerably. This helped me pick up the two or three questions that I would miss out of pure carelessness and helped shore up the section. I guess biggest advice would be to try out the different methods, find what works best for you, and just keep practicing. I let myself focus on LG and LR to the detriment of RC, and thought if I could do -1 between those two then I would be fine with the variability I had on RC, but it definitely is learnable and you start to get good at finding what to look for in the passages.

Random tips:

Take real-condition PT’s, early-on I would do un-timed PT’s and would lie to myself that it was like the real thing, mainly because I didn’t want to kill my confidence with a low score. However, this didn’t help me out in the long run, and I definitely struggled a bit with the pressure of the clock on my first take.

I know the stress is real, and the majority of us know the importance of this test. While I am confident that this test doesn’t define any of us— be real with yourself and make sure you are putting in your best effort. A couple of questions makes the difference between an admit and a deny, or years of debt vs. a scholarship. Study diligently, blind-review, make sure you are spending time with your wrong answers, re-do games. I promise you this test is learnable, and you’ll only regret it later if you half-assed your studies or didn’t believe in yourself to get a high score.

Don’t get discouraged, this really is a marathon and not a sprint. My diagnostic was low, then my PT average was 170+ for months, and then I underperformed considerably on August and October. After seeing a repeat score in October (a test I thought I had killed), I was devastated. But the November test was only three weeks away, and I knew I had another chance. There are going to be games that floor you and passages that destroy you, learn from them, pick yourself back up and keep grinding.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, never forget throughout this process—that practicing the law is what we will one day do, it is not who we are. Don’t let this test make you think otherwise.

I scored a 159 on the LSAT Flex in November. I had been testing in the mid 160s and the environment I took the FLEX was distracting for part of the test, having said that, the score was still within the range of possible outcomes.

I'm debating taking the LSAT again in January but am concerned with applying on the later side. I have a 3.83 GPA from a top 50 undergraduate school and am looking to go to a T-30 (my top school falls within the 25-30 slot). I think the GPA will help but I'm not sure if it's enough.

Thoughts on whether I should keep the 159 or try and re-take it and apply later in the cycle?

Hi. I am taking the February 2021 FLEX LSAT. I have about 3 months now to study! 1) Is 3 months enough? I could also retake the LSAT FLEX again in April 2021 if I do not score high enough in February. 2) How should I prepare for the Logical Reasoning section? So far I have the Logical Reasoning bible from Power Score, the Loophole in Logical Reasoning by Ellen Cassidy, and a full 7Sage account. What is the best and why? 3) What about LSAT Demon for Logical Reasoning? Thanks!

I cannot for the life of me improve on these types of questions. I keep getting all of them wrong on LR sections and they hurt my score badly.

Does anyone have any tips on how to improve? PLEASE? The only time I get a Flaw question right is when it's an analogy. I feel like I have trouble identifying the different types.

Thanks!

I blind reviewed but it still doesn't give me an option to check my answers etc. Someone tell me how to proceed. Thanks