Dear 7sage,

Recently, I have been taking a lot of sections to drill some of my weaknesses. I just wish you would have a separate analytics system where I can insert problem sets I have done. I understand looking at tests, but I would argue that getting to the nitty gritty of analytics within section types means I can tailor more of my effort towards a given area. I do not want to have to take a test every time I am looking for my LR weaknesses, nor write down over 150+ questions and create my own trends. This is because your version and visualization of analytics truly allows me to see where I should focus my time at. Please try to do this with problem sets too!

So I’ve been using Pacifico’s famous LG foolproof method for PT 1-32 (so far) and all the LG sections on full practice tests I’ve taken. But I’m still struggling with speed and average between minus 2~4 per section. I’d like to reach -0 consistently.

Usually when I foolproof the games after watching JYs videos or on the next day I’m super fast but when I revisit them in like a month (or even later), I’m still not reaching my target time (which is max. 7-8 minutes per game, on average).

I’m wondering if I should switch up how I foolproof the games? Should I start foolproofing by game type instead of full sections? How often should I foolproof so that making inferences becomes second nature (without memorizing the game/answer choices)? Or is sticking to foolproofing full sections the best method?

Any insight would be appreciated!

Hi 7sagers!

For this session, we are having a guest speaker! @DINOSAUR is a 7sager with PTs averaging in the 170s. English was her foreign language. We have been study buddies for a few months now, and her strategies and approach has helped me immensely in understanding the LSAT - she's amazing! We are going to discuss her struggles, strategies, and advice to approach this test as a student who grew up speaking a foreign language. Although this webinar is geared more towards ESL students, I think it will be helpful for all students to attend (the LSAT is a foreign language to everyone, let's be real).

We'll be going over a passage from the June 2007 PT to see how she approaches the passage and how she learned to read complex grammar and hard sentences. It will be Friday, November 20th at 7pm EST. Please comment below if you're interested!

Let me know if ya'll have any questions. Hope to see you there!

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Hi-

I am a finance major and one thing that is on my resume (under education) is a financial modeling certification which is awarded after 50-60 hours of rigorous training, the successful building of a 3-statement financial model in under 90 minutes, and the passing of 2 exams on corporate finance, valuation methods, and accounting which when combined, has a pass rate of 11%.

This has been of great value for getting finance interviews and it always comes up in interviews. However, I am not sure law schools care. Any recommendations about if I should include this and if I do, where should I place it and how to describe it?

Do anybody have any suggestions on what to do when you're down to two answers and don't know which one to pick?

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I'm highly concerned as I did not note shifting in meaning of the word 'anarchy' to be a flaw in this question stem. I am trying to understand why exactly the key word's shift in meaning weakens this argument? I realize that it shifts in the main conclusion when they use it as an example of chaos but how exactly does that make it vulnerable?

My thoughts: if the author shifts in this meaning maybe we can't trust the author in general? ( sorry if that sounds stupid I'm just trying to understand why so I can get inside the LSAT writers heads.(/p)

Thanks to anyone who helps me out!

Did anyone else find this section particularly hard? Granted I did it at 9:30PM when my brain is usually not the best but it really killed my confidence as I was seeing improvement in RC.

I'm slowly coming to grips with the fact that I may simply not be ready to apply to law school this cycle based on my LSAT prep progress. So I'm starting to map out a game plan for the fall 2022 cycle, but am hitting a wall in not being able to determine what the available test dates are beyond April. Is that information published anywhere?

Failing that, do we have good reason to expect they will try to offer 6 or 7 tests like in 2018 and 2019, respectively? And so maybe we can look to those years as a model for what months the test will probably be offered?

Hi! I submitted all of my apps in early October. I've been admitted to some, and I'm still waiting on decisions from others. I'm considering a job change. On the resume I submitted, it says I work two jobs. I want to quit one so I can go full-time at another. Should I contact the schools and let them know? Or is it irrelevant? TIA!

Greetings,

I am seeking a serious study partner for the January LSAT. I know there have been several posts about study buddy, however as a high school teacher, I understand that certain peoples learning styles do not correspond with others. So I would like to give a little background about myself, as well as how I study, so I can find a compatible partner. I have been studying for the LSAT for a year and a half now, on and off in the beginning, however rigorously since February. I initially took the LSAT in January and scored a 149 (pathetic, trust me, i know). I decided to purchase 7 Sage afterwards and really commit to this test (best decision I made). I have completed the CC curriculum, take every practice set for LR problems (yes I know there are over 20 problem sets for flaw and I have done them all), read Loophole by Ellen Cassidy, and taken over 30 PT's. I misused a lot of the PT's in the beginning by using the 80's for drilling since my rational was to take the March LSAT, however I severely underestimated this test in the beginning stages of my studies. I work FT as a high school teacher, however I still study approximately 5-6 hours per day (3 hrs in the morning and 3 hours after work, plus Saturday and Sunday). I approach this test in a very methodical way and follow the CC to a T. I ALWAYS am trying to understand the central logic of the stimulus and right/wrong answer choices. For example, I once spent over an hour on a really tough necessary assumption because I did not understand it and I was too stubborn to move on without fully grasping the reasoning behind the answer. The reason I mention this is because I know there are a lot of people out there who have skimmed through the CC or completed some of the problem sets, using mainly their intuition when approaching questions. If that is your style, great, however we will not get the most out of each other, and it's probably best you find someone who thinks/rationalizes the way you do. I would like to meet at least 2 times per week to BR LR and RC. We can choose PT's to take on our own and then come together to BR the answers and bounce ideas/concepts off one another. Also, this is very important, I would like to focus STRICTLY on LR and RC. I have masted LG already and I do not want to waste time on that section. Plus, I have learned that the foolproof method is better than any expensive tutor or study partner.

If you think you we would be a compatible match for the next 2 months, please send me a message and include a little history about your experience with he LSAT.

Score averages-

LR -2/-4

LG -0/-1

RC -6/-10

Thanks,

Z

So I'm about halfway through my RC section, when my screen goes completely blank. I'm thinking "what just happened?". I reach out to my proctor -- they say something along the lines of "just reconnect". I refresh the page and it reconnects. I've lost time. I ask my proctor for time back and they shoot back "continue".I try to collect myself and deal with the situation but it definately threw me off and I was super nervous moving forward and that was my very first seciton.

I can't decide if i should file a complaint with LSAC. It's due tomorrow but it puts a hold on your score and i need to see my score to decide if i should do the December lsat. Does anyone know what they usually offer as a remedy? Please advise what I should do

I decided to put in my two weeks with my very interesting government/political job. Because it is so unique, I am leaning heavily into sharing this experience in my applications, and I wrote about it in my personal statement. My work has been really critical to me realizing I want to go to law school but I have anxiety about being safe while continuing in the role through the next year (hopefully not) of the pandemic.

I'm finishing up applications to my safety schools using my current LSAT and will submit applications to my reach schools after I take the January test. How do I tell schools that I am leaving this really special job without it negatively impacting my applications?

Can someone please explain to me how B weakens the argument and not D?

Would really appreciate an explanation on why E is the correct answer choice. The use of math in the stimuli always kills me:/

How long does it take for LSAC to process the writing samples? I took the November exam and the earliest I can take it is Friday and I am worried I wont get my score back on time. Not the end of the world I guess, just curious if others have had a quick turnaround

Hi all! I'm currently part of a larger group for studying, and while it's amazing to see so many people working together, the group has become too big for effective communication. I'm looking to start a small, 10-person group for the January test. I'm thinking of mimicking others and doing weekly practice tests with one day devoted to reviewing problem areas/blind review - so essentially meeting twice a week. I personally work full-time so the group would meet in the evenings. If anyone is interested and able to commit #AccountabilityBuddies, please write your email below and I can send follow up!

On average how many times do you read the logical reasoning stimulus before you start reading the answer choices ?

To those who are still working through things right now, let me just say, 7sage is worth it. I started studying on my own (without 7sage, just using the free Khan Academy program) in May. I took the July test and went from a 156 cold to a 164, but I'm interested in T10 schools. I did 7sage and made it through the whole core curriculum from August-September, including 20+ PT's. I got a 171 on the October test. This program really works. I was a bit all over the place on my PT's - with a few 178's and a few low 170's, as well as a few 168-9's. Don't be discouraged, just keep working at it.

I also have to say the Admissions info is super helpful - I only did the free course, but it's definitely worth a look!

Ive written the LSAT before and scored a 150. I am writing in Jan 2021. Last time i studied, I felt like I knew the concepts decently well. I was pting about 160 and even got up to a 168 at one point. But I was being very lenient with my self on time. Come test day I completley freaked out and my anxiety took over me resulting in a 150.

I am BR-ing at about 160 currently. Its taking me some time to refresh some concepts in my mind but I am not necessarily worried about knowledge. I am looking for some help with strategies to deal with the timing aspect of it and not freaking out. Even when I sit down for practice tests I get super anxious and I can't think straight, let alone get through a test. Any advice would be super helpful! :(

For reference, I reside in Canada and have applied to Canadian law schools. My gpa is solid so I really only need around a 160 to get into the schools of my choice.

LG I would say is my strongest.

LR is decent, average about -7

RC is my worst. I have thought about just doing the three passages and trying to do them well ensuring i get the most possible questions correct and then if theres time remaining make educated guesses on the last passage. I would do this to make sure im doing the passages with the most questions first, and with the assumption that im doing well on my other sections. Do ypu guys think this a good strategy or do you have any other tips?

Any help is greatly appreciated!! :)

Hey everyone!

I wanted to share the good news, I got accepted into Washington University In St. Louis! From my first month of using 7sage, June, to now, I have found respite and great advice in these discussion forums. I never imagined myself to share some advice as well. So, here it is: do not give up, do not doubt yourself, you will always surprise yourself when you expect the least. If you have an LSAT score below a schools median do not shy away from applying just to save the $80. I had a 163, while WashU's median is a 169. Yet, they accepted me because of the overall holistic acceptance process. I would advice you too also use the Edit Once for your personal statement and/or diversity statements. These are major categories for admissions officers to look at. lastly, know why you want to go to law school. Your entire application will be built upon that foundation. Thank you everyone for creating this vibrant and supportive 7sage community. It has been a pleasure.

I have decided to write a diversity statement regarding my socioeconomic status, but I honestly do not know where to start. If anyone has any tips or advice I'd really appreciate it! If you need someone to proof-read yours, I'd be happy to so I could get an idea of how to write mine.

I am aggressively bad at the reading comprehension. Sometimes I get like a 9/27 on the reading (I know, that's terrible) even when I feel confident. Does anyone have any tips that helped them score better on reading comprehension?

For those of you who've read Ellen Cassidy's The Loophole -- I know that she strongly recommends reading the stimulus and designing the CLIR before reading the question stem, but I personally find that it's a better strategy to read the stem first, as I tend to overanalyze/overlook parts of the stimulus. Also for questions like main point or argument part, I feel like it's a waste of time to be analytical about the argument (not necessarily during blind review but at least under timed conditions) when all you need to do is identify the conclusion/role of a sentence in the stimulus.

Do you guys find value sticking to her advice of reading the stimulus first, or is it okay to use her CLIR method yet read the stem first?

Hello, I have posted a separate discussion post last night about my struggle with improving my score over the past 6 months, but I’m gearing this post more to materials that have helped people. After this amount of time I am familiar with the question types and patterns of subject matter that is on the exam and strategies on how to solve some of these questions. I am familiar with all of the popular and well-rated companies such as Powerscore and LSAT Demon, and I read the LSAT Trainer in full taking handwritten notes throughout the whole book. I have the LG Powerscore bible which I plan to get started on. With all of that said, have people found the curriculum for 7Sage effective in improving their score? I’m only about 5% in. What parts of 7Sage have helped you the most? I find the explanations to be helpful but I’m not sure that they actually help me improve my score. Does anyone recommend any materials for drilling problems such as the 5 lb. Manhattan Prep LSAT Drill book? Please let me know what your thoughts are on what specifically has helped you to improve your score; I don’t need anything introductory as again I am very familiar with the exam, as I’ve taken about 15 PT’s so far. Thank you! :)

Have a conversation with the author

• this encourages a deeper analysis because it helps to imagine different viewpoints

• frontload: spend as much time possible on understanding the passage

Connect back

• to previous paragraphs

• previous parts of longer sentences (especially those with modifiers or ---.....---)

• pay close attention to referential phrases and anything that gave you pause

How to approach questions

• carefully read question stems

• think of ACs as contenders: treat each AC as not 100% correct, not 100% incorrect

• rarely go back and reread: unless it's a few seconds to verify some detail because sometimes our brain registers a word or phrase when skimming parts of a paragraph then we see an AC that includes that word/phrase but ends up being a trap AC. our brains find a way to make wrong ACs sound right

Active reading

• use examples: picture things in your head, or as JY says, flex your imagination (especially for sciences passages)

• engage with the passage right from the get-go

• having a structural low-res summary is always helpful, but memory retention is also important: your ability to recall detail can save time

Strategies on timing

• don't reread too much if down to two and it's a 50/50 tossup - if you can't get it in 5 seconds, flag and move on

• use "ctrl + f" as last resort

And most importantly: be careful and slow when reading; be aggressive when choosing and knocking out ACs

I've found @Christopherr 's RC sessions to be really helpful and I think this might be useful to those who couldn't make it!