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Is there any issue with the strategy above? Vanderbilt is my dream school and I have to apply before Nov 15 in order to get an interview (which they recommend) but with how LG went last weekend I'm thinking I can definitely score higher on the Nov LSAT. Should I write an addendum if my score is a tad low and say I plan to take the test again in November and that I was a first time test taker on the sep exam?

I am a test taker whose native language is not English, I have studied this test for about 4 months starting the end of May, LR is especially difficult for me, I have done the LR ranging from -3 to -9, which is not really good . The only section that has clicked with me is the LG section, after doing around LG sections for around 50 PTs, I have been consistently getting -1 or -0. I have done 10PT LG sections from PT40-50 two days before the September exam and get almost all -0. Then I bombed the LG on the actual test, I think it is really difficult, maybe the most difficult I have ever seen. After finishing the first game, I have already spent 9 or 10 minutes, i started to panic, the second game and the third game seems especially hard, I did some initial setup and cannot see many inferences, I start to skip games to the final one and finished that one with little time left, I think I guessed around 8 questions randomly in the final minute. Maybe the reason I did not feel too depressing is because it is my first official test, I just want some experience. But the LG section definitely made me fearful afterwards. Usually LG is the section that I count on to minimize the total errors for other sections.

If LSAC continue to be like this, I know I would never finish a section like this no matter what, But I just want to do my best as a foreign test taker.

What do you guys thinks starting from this point on? How do you plan to drill your LG sections? Do you guys think that picking 4 hardest games from certain PTs and make them a problem set and start drilling them within 35 minutes would work?

Hi everyone,

We've collated essay prompts and application requirements for T-15 schools in this post. The information is copied word for word from LSAC's e-applications so that you don't have to wade through their website. (LSAC, we love you, but please support tabs! It's 2019.)

We're in the process of putting all application requirements for every school in this public Coda doc. That Coda doc has a little more information than the post, and it's easier to navigate.

https://coda.io/d/Canonical-7Sage-Law-School-List_daa7untIi1o/_sumP8

Good luck on your apps!

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I took the September LSAT foolishly hoping I wouldn’t ever have to think about this test again, but the LG kicked me in the teeth & stole my lunch money, so now I’m registered for the November administration. The problem is my GPA isn’t the best and I wanted to apply early to help offset that a bit, but if I take the November test, I’ll have to apply in December. How big a difference does it make applying in October vs December? And if my score is within the bracket of acceptability, should I move on or take the November test where ideally LG won’t channel the spirit of Satan?

I recently graduated from a somewhat competitive university (top 70 US News ranking, whatever that’s worth) and landed a case assistant/junior paralegal job at a Global 50 BigLaw firm. 3 months in, I can already see why the attrition rates for associates are continuing to rise. The work is pretty soul-crushing, and associates can’t bill for a lot of the work they used to do (clients are refusing to pay for doc review, research, etc.). I could go on, but in short, BigLaw doesn’t seem worth the time and financial commitment of law school. As someone who took all the med school pre reqs, would my time be better spent in medicine? Just for reference, I graduated with a 3.98 GPA in chemistry (top of class) and am PTing at an average of 172, so I think t14 would be fairy attainable.

After that September test, I will be retaking lol. Looking for a study partner to go over PTs and bounce ideas from 7Sage, bibles, trainer/loophole etc. I’ve been mostly self studying so I think it’s time to flesh out some solutions. I could do in person, ny/nj area or online!

DM if interested.

I'm going through 7Sage's LR videos and I can't help but think these might be a huge waste of time. Video after video of going over questions and J.Y. saying "so what?" to all of the wrong answer choices barely clarifies anything for me. Going over questions doesn't provide me with any additional substance that I wouldn't get from practicing the questions on my own. I make more progress wrestling with the questions myself. I tend to believe that the only way to get better at LR questions is to do a ton of them and BR. If there's someplace I lack understanding, I can probably just go back and watch the video for whatever concept it is. I'm only up to weakening questions in LR, so I wanted to reach out to the community and ask if these LR videos get better or if there is anyone who has skipped the videos and had good results doing so.

Currently, I am averaging -3/-4 per section and I would like to get that down to -0 to -2 per section. I struggle most with Sufficient Assumption, Strengthen, Resolve the Paradox, Weaken, and Necessary Assumption type questions, but I think rather than a question type...it's more about level 4 or 5 difficulty questions. Recently, I've also been missing these questions in Blind Review so I'm not sure what's wrong or if I am overthinking them.

Also, I finish RIIGHT on time or guess on 1-2 questions. I know speed comes with improved skill, so any tips on how I can finish consistently with ~2 minutes left would really help!

How should I proceed? I don't really have much time left and I don't have time to order and go through the Loophole :(

I'm really glad that I've come a long way in LR because I used to miss around -8 to -10, but I really want to score the best I can!

I would really appreciate advice and tips on maximizing my improvements given a limited time frame!

Is there a possibility of getting our scores before 10/14? This was my first time taking the LSAT, I'm very apprehensive about my score I don't believe I did what I'm capable of.

Deciding how or what game board to draw is the most difficult part for me. Why?

I am trying to decide about canceling or keeping my Sept score and wanted to get some other opinions. I have two scores on file from June (158) and July (160). I had been consistently PTing in the mid 160s (164-167) before Sept and my goal score was a 164 since it's the median for my top school choices though I would be ok with any increase, even 1 point, after this test. LG crushed me (barely completed 2 of the games and guessed on most) and ruined my confidence going forward on the other sections so I don't have a clear memory of how I did on them (though I remember feeling relatively good about the LRs and most of the RC).

Is it worth taking the chance of a score decrease and keeping the score or better to cancel and go forward with applying to schools with the 160 even though it's below the median/most of my PTs? (My GPA is right at the median for most schools I'm looking at and I have some other aspects of my application that should give me a bit of a boost).

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Do those of you who took the test Saturday have some takeaways/advice on how things went, your experiences with the tablets, differences for those who prepared/PT'd using laptops/desktops, etc.? It'd be much appreciated. I'm likely sitting for it in October and am planning on probably preparing exclusively by PT'ing on my laptop. I haven't seen many complaints, so I'm guessing it went swimmingly for most aside from the LG section.

I've been working with 7sage for a few weeks now and i'm really enjoying the platform. I do feel like I'm not improving as quickly as I'd like to (although I havent taken a test since my diagnostic of 148 so this may just be my current feelings), and I'm not sure if thats because i'm not employing the best study methods/ my full focus or if I'm studying wrong. Those who have improved quite a bit from using this platform, how did you best utilize these resources? Sometimes I feel like I'm doing the problem sets just to go through the motions, and I want to sharpen my focus. I just want to make sure I'm using it the max right now in the beginning stages. Any advice would be great :)

Hi all, I need some help on deciding whether to cancel or not. I’m not sure what people mean when they said they “guessed on 10” - if it’s that they tried and made educated guesses or blindly picked B for all of them like I did.

I currently have a 162 (March 2019),165 (June 2019) and no cancellations on file. I got wrecked by this LG like everyone else, but I think I did pretty solid on all the other sections. But here’s the problem: I’m not sure if I ACTUALLY did well or if it just felt like it...I’m not also sure how bad I did on the logic games (if it’s -10 or -15 or if I’m lucky and get -7).

Worst case scenario, I think I’ll get a 160 and best case scenario I might squeeze 168. It’s crazy to expect a 168, but hey, like 3/5 of the answers for the last game of the June 2019 LG section were B’s so...it’s not entirely impossible right? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe I’m just traveling along the five stages of grief and am currently in denial that I just actually wrecked this exam. But the “what if” is just killing me. My goal is to get a 170 to have a fair chance at Cornell or UC Berkeley (I have a 3.81gpa).

Please help. I am in a-g-o-n-y.🥺

I'm starting my LSAT journey in a week after I finish the CPA. I originally had plans to take it 2 years ago, but I finished a masters and got my CPA instead. I have 3.5 months until I start full-time work, and I am planning on studying 40-60 hrs a week; I will be likely working 60-70 hrs a week, so I am going to try my best to crack out the LSAT in the 3.5 months, if that is even possible. Is this a realistic goal? If not, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get a 168+. For reference, I took the 2007 LSAT 2 years ago as a diagnostic and scored a 151 and 160 with the BR method. Does anyone have any tips regarding this process; I am aiming for 168+, and I will do whatever it takes.

Also, with the new digital LSAT, is there anything I should purchase/do to mimic the exam as best as possible.

I have to take the ATSA (air traffic controller skills assesment) pretty soon and one section is a timed 20 minute section VERY similar to LSAT logic games. You have to answer 18 questions in 20 minutes and are allowed NO PENCIL or PAPER the test is entirely on the computer. Before you enter the testing facility your pockets are emptied and you are immediately disqualified if you are found using any outside source to help on the test.

Everyone who took the test says this section was extremely difficult, anyone have any advice? I've been studying logic games for some time but spend a lot of time trying to remember all the rules during questions because I can't diagram.

HI there! :)

whenever you finish a problem set, do you watch ALL of the videos on the explanation of each question? Even the questions that you got right? I feel that there are some questions that I don't need to watch the explanations for but I do it because I don't want to jinx myself. Is it recommended that you watch all of the explanations on each question? or is it recommended that you watch the explanation video on only the questions that you got wrong? I'm asking because a simple problem choice marking session seems to be taking a long time and I wanted to know the best way to go about it...

Thank you for your inputs!

I'm reapplying for law school this year, and have heard some people say that I should update my LORs. Is it true?

Should I ask my professors to update their LOR from last year (or even just to resubmit using a new link so it's more "recent"?)

I have one new academic LOR, and have 2 LORs from last year, what do you guys think, does it matter to update LORs?

Has anyone taken their at home writing sample yet? If so how does it even work? do we just take it whenever and wherever or is there a strict protocol for it?

A bit of backstory. I took the July test and got a 165. Since I am aiming for T14 schools, I wanted (and expected) something a few points higher. I took the September test and fear that I absolutely bombed the LG section. Everything else was fine, but I guessed on at least half of the LG questions. Although I didn't leave anything blank.

Originally, I was planning on cancelling this September score and taking my chances with my 165 (and applying by the end of September). I have a very high GPA, so at least I have that going reverse splitter thing going for me. After reading some people's posts, however, I am wondering if I should wait to see if some kind of miracle happened, or if the curve is super generous (seems unlikely to me).

There would be very little harm in doing this if I knew FOR SURE that law schools (even the T10 and HYS) do not average your score. I feel like I still don't have a clear answer on this specifically. I was also wondering if it would look bad if I got a much lower score on my second test attempt, since I think admissions officials expect to see some improvement with multiple retakes.

So, long story short: cancel and resign myself to 165, or wait to apply on 10/14, hoping for a miracle?

Thanks for your thoughts.

I've been studying for the LSAT for about 3 weeks, mostly on logic games, probably put in about 80 hours so far. My very first look at any of these games, I went through a PT and got 19 or 20 right... but I did it without a time limit and spent 3 hours on the games.

After my practicing/studying, I've got it to where I'd guess I can go -1/-2 on the LG in a PT in about 60 minutes.

Obviously, 60 minutes doesn't cut it. Under real test conditions & timing, I'm looking at more like a -9 on the LG. I did have one PT where I got -5, but there was a lot of luck involved (I didn't have time for 6 or 7, and guessed A and got like 3 or 4 of these blind guesses correct).

Any thoughts on what's realistic to hope for in terms of improvement before the October test? I don't have time to foolproof hundreds (or even dozens) of games. It's been a while since a game stumped me, but I'm still not necessarily making the right calls on when to split & try to draw out tons of inferences vs when to forge ahead with what I've got and let it play out in the questions. And even when I do make the right call, I'm still probably taking 25% to 50% too long on everything.

I have a head for logic; on my last PT under test conditions I went -1 on RC and LR combined. But speed has just never been my thing.

Thanks.

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I had LR LG LR LR and RC in that order. The last two LRs were 26 questions and the first was 25 questions. Do you guys know which of these was the experimental ? I can’t remember specific questions for each of the sections but if you guys know maybe how many questions total the test was i can figure it out.