Are there any major differences between the format of the exam we will take on test day versus the Prep Tests done on the 7sage website? For example, will test takers be able to grey out answer choices the same way we can on the 7sage PTs? Also, will test takers be able to view question numbers at the bottom of the screen, seeing which ones are unanswered or starred?

I just took my first prep test (Jun 1991). I scored a 162 before BR and a 171 after BR (did well in LG and did the worst in CR). I am aiming to break 170 in October, but am not sure what tests to focus on now. Should I take 1-35 in the drill material? Or skip to PT 36 and continue on from there?

I am planning on taking one almost every day until September 7. After that, I will at least take 3-4 a week until the test.

Any advice would really help!!!

just did PT 70 so i could have some newer questions and saw there were no explanations. at what PT does he stop those?

I have a 3.82 GPA but I just read on the LSAC website that incompletes are included in the calculation of your GPA if the school indicates credits attempted and the grade is considered punitive. Now I'm freaking out because I had to take 4 incompletes for medical reasons. But I finished all my incompletes on time and they don't show up anywhere on my official transcript. Is this going to hurt me???

Is there anything I can do between now and the August LSAT to bridge this gap? RC used to be my best subject. I don't run out of time. I do the same methods every time I take it. Yet results widely vary. Please advise. My LG and LR are consistent with little variance (except improvement over time) and so RC is literally gatekeeping me. I scored 159 on July LSAT. On my practice tests when I score well on RC I am getting around 165. This is making me cry. Had my lowest PT today in a long time (156) because of the - 13 on RC.

Not because I'm a masochist but because my undergrad grades were absolute garbage I am trying to score as high as possible on the LSAT. I'm PTing in the 170's now, but ideally want a 176 or better in a desperate bid for full/near full rides at lower T14`s/top 25's. Is anyone else working towards/has worked towards those kind of numbers? Do you have advice? Are you looking for a study partner? How do you feel about the Flex? I know my most recent PT was a 174, but as a Flex could have been anywhere from a 170 to a 178 depending on which of the five sections was included. I can't decide if that should stress me out or give me confidence.

I don't know if I'm going insane, but I would love some help.

I have the LSAC 10 official preptest books. I'm scoring WAY higher (10 points) using the books than I am on the Kahn academy online tests....

My best guess is on the physical book, I can cross out answers I know are wrong & I can't do that online. Maybe I'm getting the correct letter confused because I can't remove it from my view.

Does any one else have this issue?

Looking for a study buddy to work with mostly Saturday and Sunday, Monday if you have it off too. I have been working on LSAT prep for 1 year now, I'm just coming out of 7Sage Core Curriculum and hoping to take the test November (depending on where I'm at on my PTs), or January. My last PT, six months ago, was in the mid-130s. I'm aiming at 160s.

I'm currently working on taking untimed practice sections for LR, I'm doing Fool Proof for LG, and doing untimed RC. To be honest, I'm hoping to work with someone to hold me accountable for BR because doing it alone has been difficult. If anyone is in a similar situation or would just like to work with me, message me, lets get to know each other and see if we can partner up for this journey!

Dear 7Sagers,

I hope to keep this very brief. I took the July LSAT Flex and received a 150, however I was only able to successfully complete two of the games during the exam. I seem to truly struggle with finishing logic games in the time allowed. I have the August LSAT flex on September 2nd, my goal score is 155+. My highest PT was a 161, I would say I'm average in LR and RC, during LR I usually complete most if not all the questions rather confidently then realize there's a fine line between the correct answer and the wrong one that I chose. Where should I direct my studies before my exam, would completing all 4 games successfully help me achieve my score. Are there any tips in developing consistency? I do devote time to studying but I feel like there is no gradual improvement and with my test coming up in nine days I am truly starting to feel burnt out and under pressure. I understand the scores above may not be as high as people usually hope to achieve but understanding my needs and my realistic expectations this is what I am trying to accomplish.

Thank you all in advance and best of luck to everyone.

Hello, I plan on taking a couple PT's this week and was wondering if I should take it on LawHub since that will be the format for test day or continue to take the practice tests on 7 sage?

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hi guys,

i am taking the august flex this weekend, and i am registered for the october flex. i chose the october one because i want to be able to apply as early as i can, but now i am thinking that between the august test to the october test will not be enough time for me to improve by much, especially with going back to school full time. i've been reading a lot of different things about applying early vs scoring even one point better and i am not sure what to do. powerscore says that it is much more better to have a higher score and apply in december (thats probably when i would end up applying after the november test) rather than apply early with a score lower than your potential. but i am still unsure. is it a big difference from applying by the end of october to applying mid december?

thank you for any advice, i appreciate it and good luck to all who are taking the flex this weekend :)

Hi all! Seeing that the LSAT will be using the flex system for the future with 3 sections instead of the normal 4 and one unscored, should we be changing how we study? What I mean is should I be going through the 7sage curriculum as normal? Or should I be skipping sections that will not be on the LSAT flex in order to save time. Thanks!

Hi all,

I'm starting to write my personal statement and have been seeing a lot of divided opinions on whether you should include a "why you want to study law" component in your PS.

I watched the primer to admission video on 7sage and it seems like 7sage is suggesting as long as you include these three components (event - emotion - lesson), your PS does not necessarily need to address law explicitly. However, I have read in other websites which state that it is wise to somehow connect your PS to law.

I wanted to ask what you guys' thoughts are on this! thank you so much.

Hello,

i need a study buddy to go over PT 73

hey folks, does anyone "warm-up" before taking PTs and/or the real test? If so, how? This is an important question for me because one of my biggest challenges is staying focused and feeling clear.

I've found that sometimes doing a small set of questions from each section type can help my brain get in the groove, but sometimes it messes me up. Would love to hear how people get in the right mindspace before taking a test.

New to 7Sage, so apologies in advance if this has already been discussed!

I see that on the top column of every problem set and prep test, there's a new feature called "theme." It has 7 Sage, 7 Sage Dark, Standard, Standard Dark. I was wondering whether the standard themes are the ones that we see on a real test?

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are as to guessing on questions you don't get to/are uncertain of on PTs.

I listened to a 7sage podcast and J.Y says to always leave these blank, so that you can remove the element of luck and better gauge where you're at skill-wise.

I have been implementing this practice and I think it may be having a negative psychological effect on me. My PT scores have been ranging from 153-157 while taking this approach and consistently seeing my results be lower than what I think they could be is rather discouraging.

For perspective I tend to not get to about 20-25 questions per test.

Should I just try to get over this psychological hurdle, or should I just start guessing on those questions and boost my confidence?

Thanks in advance!

Has anyone gotten "Get Acquainted with Writing" to work? I am nervous to try to open the actual writing test, since I am unable to get anything but an error message when I try to open the practice section.

Hi, everyone. I am taking the LSAT-Flex on August 29th, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips for how to improve on LR fast. I have made great strides in LG, but it seems like I am getting worse scores on LR now that I am better at LG. Any tips/advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

Does anyone have any perspective on which recent (i.e. 70s-80s) were comparatively easier? This is of course super subjective, but I'm interested in people's thoughts regardless. I want to take one more PT to BR before the August administration, but I don't want to tank my confidence. Alternatively, are there any particularly gnarly recent tests to avoid so close to test day for mindset purposes?

As I begin law school at Cornell next week, I have felt increasingly compelled to reflect on my LSAT journey. I spent 2 years tirelessly grinding, putting my entire being into the test. To say that there were highs and lows would not do the feelings of each justice -- the lows made the world feel like it had ended and the high (getting my goal score) is a moment that I will never forget. Anyways, my experience was likely somewhat unique and I would like to share what I learned in hopes of streamlining your success.

1. Find an LSAT Buddy

Your family and friends will never understand this test. You need someone to be able to vent to and commiserate with. You need someone who you can text when you get wrecked by a timed section and you feel like the world is ending and you should re consider your entire future. You need someone to call you out when you are being lazy about your reasoning for eliminating or picking an answer choice. Blind reviewing with someone forces you to articulate your beliefs which makes them vulnerable and you will be more likely to challenge or change them. A study buddy will help you see questions and ideas in ways which were not possible by your life experiences and biases. Find someone you click with and you will lift each other to new heights. I ended up spending 100s of hours talking to and ultimately became close friends with my 7sage study buddy!

2. Growth= Stress + Rest

We get better by pushing really hard, letting ourselves recover from that stress, and ultimately growing from it. The secret is that the growth requires a resting period. If you only push, you simply just burn out, and risk losing your gains because your neurosis will create a loss of confidence and all kinds of negative feedback loops. So.... the key is to push really hard, take some time off, and then jump back in. If you plan the time off, you have control. Otherwise, burn out will force you to take time off and that is not fun. Go hard for a few days (or study sessions), forget the LSAT exists for a day or 2, and then jump right back in. This will keep you fresh and motivated. The rest period gives you a chance to cease the stories and biases you tell yourself. Burn out is simply when those stories and ideas seem so real that they weigh us down to the point where we cannot think rationally.

3. A Journal will keep you Sane

The biggest determiner of your growth will be what changes you make from day to day. A journal helps you to reflect on your current state and brainstorm ways to evolve. Don't try to hold it all in your head; when you write it down, it becomes real!

After you finish any section (timed or untimed) immediately record what went well, what did not go well, how you felt, and how you can improve next time out. Before taking the next section, look back on your prescriptions and go into the new section with the intention to implement what you learned. You will begin to notice recurring themes and you will be able to see and remedy them. Don't rush through your reflection-- LSAT success is a function of who can evolve best!

4. Meditation

Meditation shows you what your mind is like without thoughts or typical programs of consciousness running. Knowing what this is like allows you to recognize when thoughts and moods arise. This is relevant to the LSAT because sensing stress or fear at its onset is super important. If you catch it early, you can nip it in the bud before it snowballs. We are all prone to not understanding say #8 on an LR section, thinking we are out of our league or not good enough, reading #9 in that stressed out state, and getting even more stressed. This generally builds on itself until it comes to a head and you are left doubting everything and not able to think rationally at all. So meditation will help you to better understand and deal with life and stress as it happens to you. This will allow you to build a better inner dialogue. and perform better under timed conditions.

I am big fan of Sam Harris' Waking Up app. It is philosophical yet practical and accessible, and it avoids the corny feeling of Headspace or Calm.

5. Do not Underestimate Novelty

Ever heard the expression "Just Sleep on it" ? This is so oft used because it works! Our thought processes and conscious experience are determined by our inputs. If you keep your inputs the same and are stuck in routine, your results will not change. I cannot tell you how many times I was completely stuck and feeling hopeless on an LR question, did something else (like run, go on a drive, listen to music etc. ), and returned to see the question with perfect clarity. Under timed conditions this is why we skip. It gives us a chance to let our neurons slightly re arrange themselves and approach the question with new eyes. Novelty destroys the stories we tell ourselves which hold us back. Change your routines often, step out of your comfort zone, and try new stuff! If nothing changes, nothing will change.

6. LG is a Muscle

Unlike the other sections, the more LG you do the better you become at it. Practice trains you to make inferences sub consciously and quickly. I found that even taking a few days off would make me slower and clunkier. Get your reps in and stay fresh!

7. Untrained Intuition is Very Dangerous

Some of the worst atrocities ever committed were done so because people truly believed things for very bad reasons. Trusting your intuition is essential on this test, but you first must make sure it is warranted. The work you do in BR and untimed sessions are what trains your intuition. You are training your machinery under the hood to be able to fire efficiently and effectively when called upon. Challenge yourself to always write out why you think what you think. Lots of times ideas "feel" right in our head until we are really forced to write or articulate them. Your BR score is a decent indication of how much you can trust your intuition. When you are satisfied with it, see how you do with timed work. Find where your intuition fails you and fix it during BR--- rinse and repeat until you improve! Here is an example of my written explanations: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEb2hPezf10STZByj0fHHeWwuCGNFEQ5/view

8. Being Well- Read Matters..... A Lot

Having a basic understanding of terms in Science, Philosophy, and Art is massive. Being able to visualize and understand such topics means you can spend more time analyzing arguments and structure and less time confusedly parsing grammar. The people who do well on this test without much prep are the ones who are already familiar and versed with such topics. For example, JY triple majored in Economics, Political Science, and Philosophy-- He was pretty much bred for this test! The good news is that you have plenty of time and resources to catch up. I saw big returns on my efficiency and performance from doing more outside leg work. Below is a list of my favorite resources:

https://aldaily.com/ -- Articles on Art, Philosophy, and Literature which are written in a very similar way to RC passages. Reading a few of these a day will make you an RC god.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Kurzgesagt --- A Youtube channel which does visual explanations regarding questions on philosophy and science. They do a great job of simplifying complex ideas and making them digestable.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtKNX4SfKpzX_bhh4LOEWEGy3pkLmFDmk-- Youtube playlist on improving critical thinking. They do a nice job of explaining logic and the science of argumentation in a non LSAT related light.

Philosophize This Podcast-- Accessible way to learn about famous philosophers and ideas. Nearly every episode covers a topic that has been brought up on the LSAT.

Informal Logic Textbook -- https://www.amazon.com/Informal-Logic-Possible-Worlds-Imagination/dp/0070468613

This book gave me my greatest LR gains. It discusses the science behind why we reason, discusses the underpinnings behind informal logic, and provides many many examples. This is far beyond the concepts tested by the LSAT, but it will challenge you and sharpen your conscious thought and logical reasoning. An old LSAT test writer said on the LSAT Unplugged Podcast that he used this book as inspiration to write LR questions.

9. Speed Reading is a Myth... but Mastery of Grammar is NOT

Trying to read faster will make you worse. Be wary of anyone purveying this advice. The key is to understand what you read more effectively and efficiently. Especially in RC, what you are reading is something that author spent a lot of time working on and perfecting. It is like a prized musical piece to them. Being a master of Grammar helps you read the notes just as they were intended to be hit and get into the rhythm of the writing, as if you had direct access to the author's thoughts. I became a much smoother and confident reader after learning the "why" behind grammatical markings and use.

To do so, it is important to truly understand the function and usage of commas, colons, dashes, semi-colons, and other markings of writing. Some resources to get you started:

https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/grammar/index.html

https://www.amazon.com/Eats-Shoots-Leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/1592402038

https://www.grammar-monster.com/punctuation/using_commas.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-Fourth-William-Strunk/dp/020530902X

Note: I also found it useful to check out some basic concepts from linguistics. Check out some tree diagramming videos on Youtube and learn to see the elements of a sentence. This will help you to break down abstract, difficult language when the LSAT throws it at you.

10. You know the importance of sleep + nutrition + exercise... Stop ignoring it.

These things are all inter connected. If one is lacking, the others will begin to lack and eventually you will lose your ability to think clearly. You cannot expect to score at an elite level on the LSAT and not take care of other facets of your life at an elite level.

This should convince you:

11. Tune out Dogma

You will find all kinds of people with "secrets" to the LSAT and supposed necessary conditions to success-- Be skeptical! Think about success in undergrad: Everyone had their own approach; some were much more effective than others, but the only right way was the one which worked for you. So stop listening to Webinars, Podcasts, Reddit, and other resources looking for the magic solution. Just keep grinding, trying things, and seeing what works for you. I do understand the irony of me giving advice yet also telling you not to take advice from those who offer it (Lol!)

My favorite dogmatic myths:

-Later PTs are harder

-You should take a PT a week

-You aren't ready until you have PT'd your goal score 19 times and waited 6 years

-RC is not easy to improve on

If you believe these things ... they will be true!

Happy LSAT'ing and enjoy + embrace all parts of the journey :)

So, I just did the LSAT writing. I used up all of the time just for review of what I wrote. I did not click submit or anything. However, it took me to another page that lets me see what I wrote with some extra information at the top that says I've submitted. But, no confirmation email yet. Am I slowly floating up poop creek or am I safe? I would like to think that the program is not that inept, but I would not be surprised because it is LSAC that we are all dealing with. Lots of horror stories.

I don't remember seeing Eval in the CC and can't find it either in the CC. JY explains 'toggling' for the ACs on PT 79.1.17 and I have no idea what he means by this. I am assuming he means looking for a vacillation between strengthen and weaken per AC? Not sure how to approach this Q-type.

Can someone let me know where I can get some study material on evaluate the argument as I read they are more common on the recent LSATs.

Thanks.

If the November test is Flex, can people who are not in the US or Canada take it?