Hello everyone,

So I applied Early Decision Round 2 to UPenn and was put on the waitlist. In the email response from the university they say that they recommend submitting any additional information such as an updated resume, an additional 2 page essay on a topic of your choice, and any additional letters of rec. My question is regarding the additional essay, are they looking for a LOCI? Or are they looking for an additional essay, something similar to a personal statement, in addition to a LOCI? If so, what are some good ideas for the extra essay? Any topics I should try and focus on or some that I should stray away from?

Any suggestions or comments are much appreciated!

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Where do I go to get help with logical reasoning questions? I understand individual elements of lawgic, but when combined I fail to get answers correct. For example, when I do the groups 1-4 quizzes, I get all of them right, but when I do all of them on one quiz I get them wrong. Another example, when I have symbols to manipulate for any strategy with logical reasoning I'm fine, but when I'm given words to translate into symbols, I just get lost in the words because the examples in the lessons are easy, but the quiz questions are significantly more convoluted. I have left comments, but I only got one response so far so I would like to try a help session or a tutoring session. I am searching through where to find help now, but if someone could point me in the right direction, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Hello,

Anyone in the LA area planning to take June 2020 test, and would like to study in a group?

In the flaw section of LR, I have a hard time understanding the common argument flaw of sufficiency-necessity confusion, as JY calls it. I never seem to recognize a flaw argument that is committing the sufficiency-necessity confusion flaw.

Due to this, can anybody show me an example of an argument that is committing this flaw and explain to me how it constitutes a sufficiency-necessity confusion? Thanks.

Thank you for opening this~

I'm registered for the Feb 22 exam so I am trying to be at max. efficiency level with my studying LOOL.

I was struggling with RC for the longest time but after EXTENSIVE review I think it's finally clicking with me.

My score per PT now depends on how I do on GAMES. I really want to get to that -0 / -2 (max) level by test day.

I only miss more than 2-3 on games that are a little "untraditional" (for example, PT 80 game 4). When I hit game 4 on PT 80, I stayed calm and tried to use intuition to push thru.. but got stuck... big time.

Do you all have any tips on how to improve on these kinds of games? Also, if you know any PTs with funky games please let me know!

To all my fellow February takers.. we got this!

Hi everyone! What is the most effective study method for long study periods for you? If you study for 5 or 6-hour stretches, for example, do you take a break every hour? I tried the Pomodoro method, which entails studying for 45 mins and then taking a 15 minute break, but that didn't work too well for me because I wasn't disciplined enough to follow through on it. Do you study and then take breaks as needed? Thanks

Is there a standard for having a visible clock in every center? I just use the clock here with the app, no watch.

I am struggling to get more than 17 right on LR consistently. I reviewed all the LR curriculum but I'm still unable to break the 17 right during timed sections. I have noticed a few trends. During timed LR I am usually getting the first 10 correct in about ~12 minutes. I usually run out of time and don't get to 3-4 questions so I blind guess on these. Of the 3-4 it's very unlikely that I get one of them right by chance. During BR I am usually able to get 3-4 correct out of the 3-4 I skipped.

My BR is usually around ~20-21 and ideally I would be scoring as close to ~21 as humanly possible! Any advice?

Also, I'm practicing from tests 1-20 right now out of paranoia. I do not want to "waste" the good/more recent exams. Is this legit reasoning or is it smart to "save" the more recent exams for full practice test practicing purposes?

I was wondering when the video explanations will be up for the November 2019 LSAT

Is it worth it to apply to a regional school in Mid March or just wait 7 more months to apply with the same scores/gpa and application at the beginning of the cycle? For the regional schools I want to apply to I am 1-3 points under the LSAT 25th percentile and right at the GPA 25th percentile for the schools.

At the moment I want to apply at as many schools as possible to have a lot of options but I feel rushed with the incoming deadlines and I am worried that I am doing my self a disservice with my app numbers (LSAT and GPA) by applying this late and I realistically might only have the chance to apply to max 3 schools this cycle as opposed to the planned 6. Regardless, I have my LOR's ready, resume ready, I am currently on my second draft of my PS and still crafting my diversity statement/adenda/optional essays.

Is it realistic to think that if i apply as early as possible I might get a better shot at $$$ and a chance a getting into schools that would probably reject me If i applied late mid march?

What should I do?

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Hello! For those who have taken the test before, how did you feel about the experimental section? Did it throw you off at all, or maybe did you feel more drained because of the extra section? I just want to know if I should expect a bit of score fluctuation due to the extra section.

Thank you for your time!

I wanted to share a weird phenomenon that happened after the Nov test. I walked out thinking I over-performed and when scores came out I found I scored 5 points lower than my average PT at the time. I thought "Wow, this must have been a fluke. I'm usually at 160, how did I get a 155? I've never tested that low in 6 months."

So here comes the weird part: I took the LR sections again, and scored the exact same. I missed the exact same number of questions on both of the LR sections, albeit some of the questions I got right the first time I got wrong the second take and vice-versa. I was on the cusp on blowing off the uncharacteristically low Nov score due to "nerves" or something nebulous that would make me feel good :D but it turns out I was probably just not as good as I thought I was.

Going back now and BR'ing the test months after I am seeing a lot of the errors I made clearly and I think "How did I do that!?" This is encouraging because I can see how far I've come from just November until now.

Weird stuff happens, wanted to share, hope people can take away something from my experience!! Happy LSAT'ing.

I cannot locate where the Googlesheet of rankings is on here - help please!

Good Morning. I am currently studying for the March LSAT and want to know if anyone has any advice on how to divvy up the study time designated to each section. I tried dedicating a set amount of time to studying one section. For example, I would spend a week on LG, and although my LG score would increase, my LR score would decrease. I assuming this is a result of me neglecting the section for a week. Has anyone else experienced this problem and have found remedies that will help? any advice would be amazing! Thanks!

Hi everyone! Does anyone know if you can submit the writing sample after an application deadline has passed? Or does it have to be submitted with or prior to? Thanks!

Hi all, can somebody explain why answer choice (c) is incorrect?

I thought it was a good choice for the following reason:

(C) Whenever most practitioners of a given discipline (the psychologists) approach a particular problem in the same way (should the childhood age group be understood in its own terms), that uniformity is good evidence that all similar problems (should the elderly age group be understood in its own terms) should be approached in that way (yes, it should be understood in its own terms, just like psychologists do for children)

Please, if you can let me know where I’m wrong that’ll be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

I am able to recognize premise, conclusions and the approach to classify the inference family LR. However, when I see the questions I freak out and get totally lost. All the answer choices look alike. It is hard to decipher the correct answer and I give up. Help................. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Please and Thank you.

Hi everyone,

I am still quite confused about why answer choice D is wrong here. After all, couldn't it be argued that P is proposing a hypothesis (that M's hypothesis is laughable) and showing that it is merely possible (by stating that it is possible that a person who knew the epics well enough to write them down would not need to read them nor would anybody else be able to read them)?

In a sense, why does P's counterargument not count as a hypothesis?

#help

Thanks!

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Hello, I have been going through the MP section of the course, and am wondering if the way I am addressing the stimulus is going to get me into trouble.

I read the stimulus until I reach the main point and then stop and choose the answer choice that best expresses the MP. I have found that in the few I have done so far, I have come up with the correct answer. Is this the wrong way to go about things?

Hi! I'm planning on taking the April 2020 LSAT and wanted to see if anyone is doing the same! We can try to make studying a little more bearable lol I'm currently struggling

In LG, when given a question stem that provides a new premise AND includes the terms: could be true, must be true, could be false, and must be false, etc. I tend to take a lot more time than I should in trying to process the question. Usually, I am dealing with a game board that I split, so it takes me even longer to try to figure out the relationship between the question and the game boards that I have in front of me. I'm planning on drilling this particular skill, and was hoping someone could look over my notes:

Could be True: inference has to work in at least ONE of the game boards

Must be True: inference must be true in ALL the game boards

Could be False: as long as the inference could be wrong in ONE of the game boards, it's wrong

Must Be False: inference must be false in ALL the game boards

Cannot Be True: is this the equivalent of must be false???

I feel like JY addressed this in the CC, but can't remember exactly where. Also, are there any other terms that I missed?

Thanks in advance!

I'm keeping my eyes on Southwestern Law since I've read several good reviews about it.

To those of you who have sat the test in LA before: any other thoughts on spacious and pleasant test centers nearby?