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My hunch tells me that this is supposed to be B-->A.

However, my buddy tells me that this is A-->B, which also sounds right.

I have another buddy who tells me that this is A(--)B because

(1) A accompanies B is B-->A

(2) Always is a sufficiency indicator, which means A-->B; ergo, A(--)B

In case you guys are wondering, this is PT51 Section 3 Number 20 Choice (A). This has nothing to do with the answer, but I still want to know :)

Could you guys help me with this?

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l struggle with conditional phrases that include the word "or" and how to use them in a chain. l remembered learning about "or" in the truth tables and went back there, but is there somewhere else we learned about "or" that was more specific to chaining phrases?

The problem that reminded me today is from PT 36 (fruit stand).

Any thoughts or advice on:

  • where to review in the CC?
  • ways to diagram that make sense to you?
  • other problems that include this concept?
  • Thanks!

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    Hi,

    The title says it. To put into numbers, here are recent PTs I did.

    PT75 RC: -6/-5(BR)

    PT73 RC: -5/-3(BR)

    PT76 RC: -7/-4(BR)

    PT77 RC: -6/-6(BR)

    I started preparing for LSAT about 10 weeks ago. My diagnostic with PT72 was RC: -4/-6(BR). I don't really see improvement.

    I am going to write June 2019 test. Should I just forget about RC in the last 3 weeks of study?

    Thanks.

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    Hi! I'm wondering if any high scorers have any tips for me during this final stretch of studying to sit on June 3. I've always felt fairly comfortable with RC in general (not that it's easy, but it doesn't freak me out), and I've gotten to (-1) or (-2) on each passage. The problem is when the 5-minute warning comes, I've only just begun the final passage. I never feel like I'm getting bogged down or struggling during the first three. I feel like I'm doing fine, kicking butt, but clearly I'm NOT because in order to finish the final passage I'd have to give myself 5 extra minutes, which of course, will never be an option during the real test. I know the wisdom claims that timing is never the real issue - that it's just a function of not being at the right level of understanding. OK, fine. So what should I do over these next few weeks? Take a ton of timed RC sections and BR them? Take some timed RC sections where I only complete 3 passages and strive for (-0)? Take some untimed RC sections? Please advise!! Thanks in advance :)

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    I'm planning on starting the prep ASAP and taking the test in Sep/Oct. Is it recommended that I first go through the free trial and take a diagnostic test or should I just start with the course?

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    I’m going back to untimed RC drill, and am wondering if I should follow CC or just do sections.

    Either way I’ll do four passages, but I haven’t done any problem sets.

    So far I’ve drilled by section after CC, and am done with RC from PT1-11.

    What’s the criteria for the RC problem sets? Is there a benefit to doing CC problem sets?

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    I was put on the waitlist at colorado and they told me they would probably not give me feedback until july. I was told 2 weeks later that their class is full and I am not longer on waitlist. Do they put applicants on the waitlist before reviewing applications? also, does a rejection off the waitlist mean I could have a better chance of admission next year if I apply early? I applied april 20th. Will my chances be better or the same if I reapply early next cycle?

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    This is completely subjective, but from your experience what are some of the hardest sections you have encountered? I want my to test myself on the most difficult the LSAT has to offer. For example, I felt the Logic Game section for Test Prep A was tough as was the Reading Comp for 38.

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    Hi everyone! I’m retaking the LSAT and reading comp is by far my hardest section to improve on. I used the 7 sage curriculum and in the process developed my own strategy. I wanted to share to see if it’s helpful or if I’m doing this all wrong.

    I basically read each paragraph and underline the main idea in each paragraph before moving to the next. At the end I do a quick scan of all the underlined main ideas.

    I find it’s helpful to do this in order to track the general thread in the passage and I can do the low resolution summaries in my head.

    Is this wasting time and I should eventually do it in my head?

    #help

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    I don't know if I'm just getting worse at the LR timed sections or if the LR sections have changed, so this is normal. I was scoring -1 to -4 in the 30s.

    Test 40: -6; BR:-2 and -9; BR -3

    Test 43: -6; BR:-2 and -4; BR -2

    Test 44: -10; BR:-3 and -6; BR -4

    Test 45: -10; BR: -6 and -8; BR -1

    Test 46: -8; BR -2 and -9 with BR -3

    What is going on? From scoring -5 or less consistently to dropping to -10. Ugh I am so upset.

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    Hi all, Is anyone experiencing the same thing as I did. My videos do not play and it seems is across the board. I was unable to play the video on Quiz 3 in "finding pseudo sufficient assumption last night. I had also randomly tried other videos, and they don't play either. This morning too. Thanks,

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    hi guys! so i'm a rising senior at boston university (gpa: 3.33) and i had done some review on here since last summer, but i officially started studying properly the beginning of this week to sit the september test. i have the ultimate+ and i'm trying to get through the core curriculum so i can get as much practice and PTs as i can to be ready by then. i know JY and all of you say that take the lsat when you're ready and not plan around an lsat date, but i have 4 months of absolutely nothing to do but to study so i was hoping i'd be ready by september. i'm thinking of doing 25 hours a week would be good (around 5 hours a day, 6 times per week), and i'm hoping to be done with the CC by the end of june (the CC is extremely long so i have no idea how long it would take me to finish and it's really worrying me), and i'd have around 2.5 months to do PTs. do you guys think that would be doable? i did extremely bad on the diagnostic (137) so i am extremely discouraged, but i am very motivated. i want to get to 170 at some point. i know some of you are gonna say that it's a reach and that i can't improve by that much, but i was not at the best mental state when i took the diagnostic so i don't think it's what i would have scored at my best potential. what way do you guys suggest i study or split my time to reach my goal? september lsat is non-negotiable because i'm applying in the fall and i'm doing ED to northwestern. i reckon that 4 months of only LSAT studying should suffice, no? i don't work or anything this summer. any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated! i'm really anxious about the whole thing, like i'm getting a daily anxiety attack thinking about studying and finishing on time reaching my goal. i know this is extremely lengthy so i apologize, i just needed to rant and get this off my chest, and if you made it this far into the post i thank you and any words of wisdom from you would go a long way. thanks guys!

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    The digital tester is in public beta! Everyone can use the digital tester for any PTs they have access to on their account.

    When you're ready to take a PrepTest, click on "Blind Review, Score and Review" for the PrepTest you want to take:

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    Note that you'll only have access to the PrepTests included in your course. Free users have access to the June 2007 PrepTest only.

    Alternatively, you can also go to Analytics. Then, select the PrepTest you'd like to take and you will see an option to take the PrepTest digitally, like this:

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    Since the tester is still in beta, please let us know if you notice any issues. We're actively monitoring this thread and improving the tester.

    Thank you!

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    Hi fellas,

    I’ve been studying for the paper version of the LSAT and have very used to certain notation strategies for RC and LR that unfortunately cannot be done on the digital LSAC. I’m sure a lot of people are in this same boat

    I’m starting this thread to ask: how are you adapting? What notation strategy do you find most intuitive?

    I’ve tried: highlighting the conclusion with yellow. Underlining premises.

    Nothing beats being able to circle indicators etc and drawing them back to important points though. And still can’t figure it out for RC.

    Anyway, what has worked best for you? Hopefully, our collective sharing of strategies might be able help each other work through the transition!

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    I would like to study 15-20 hours per week and sometimes struggle to keep focused. So I created a group me Lsat accountability group if anyone is interested in joining sign up for Group Me and inbox me your number. Let's help each other meet our LSAT goals.

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    Hey I plan on taking the LSAT in September. If anyone is interested in setting up a study group inbox me. I live in Brooklyn, but work in the city. We can meet in person Thursdays or Sundays or we can Skype or video chat any day during the evening.

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    I’ve noticed my PT score gets significantly lower when PT is the first thing I do in the morning. (Confirmed by the two PTs this week:P) There was 10 points difference between the one I did at 8:30am sharp, and around 11am cause I was lazy and BRed LG from the previous PT on the day of the next PT. Surprisingly I scored a lot lot better after BRing LG before PT, which took me around two hours.

    Would two hours of pre-studying before the test be too much for the actual test? I found it helpful but at the same time I’m only doing 4 sections, so it might be different on the real thing. Maybe get too tired by 5th section?

    I’m thinking about implementing warm up to my pt routine, so would like some suggestion on what’s the optimal amount.

    So wish the tests were all at 1:30PM... why lsac... even proctors wouldn’t want to wake up before 7AM... nobody should be forced to wake up before 7am... just wish everyone’s lifestyle would shift a few hours later so we (more like I,) could be more happy and productive. It’s not like we still live in a time where we have to align our everyday life to sunlight... no more...

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    I currently have a 3.9 GPA at FSU with hopes in getting into a T14 law school. My only concern in regards to my transcript is that I have a relatively light course load.

    In my third year--I'm entering my fourth year in the fall--I experienced multiple and erratic seizures which forced me to be on medical watch and prevented me from driving or using electronics for some time. Later on in the year, my girlfriend became pregnant with my little baby daughter (:D) and I had to travel and stay in Colombia to accompany her since she lives alone. These impediments forced me to drop the majority of my classes which consequently led me to complete a mere total of 9 credit hours in my Junior year. I explained all of this to my university and they were lenient and cleared me from any heavy academic obligations.

    In regards to my credits and graduation pace, I am not off-track since I have taken multiple Summer courses over the years. I am just a bit worried that my lackluster course load, specifically in my third year, may dissuade the T14 law schools from taking my application seriously.

    Could my case deter T14 law schools from considering me? I know I should mention this through an addendum but to what extent would that help with their considerations?

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    Hello! I know there are a TON OF posts about this topic but I just wanted to see if anyone has any opinions/gotten into law school with the similar circumstances.

    I have a dual degree in Cell biology and Women’s studies and ended up with a 2.8 cumulative gpa. If I removed all of my science classes, my gpa would be about aBout a 3.8 (not sure if this matters at all). Since graduating, I have been working for a large medical device company in quality on a large project. By the time I apply, I would have been in the industry for 2 years. I eventually want to get into patent/intellectual property law. I am retaking the lsat again this fall and am aiming for ~165 + .

    Has anyone else gotten into a good school with a low gpa, a better than average lsat and work experience?

    Are there certain schools that really value work experience?

    All opinions are appreciated! Thank you!

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    Hey 7Sagers,

    We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

    LSAT PT 31

    JUNE 2000

    section 3 Question 14

    Main Point

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-14/

    PLEASE HELP. I am confused about why the conclusion is what it is. When I saw the word "since" I knew it was going to introduce a premise. Then I saw the word "because" and thought it introduced another premise. so I thought the main conclusion was the sentence about "when relatives of the patient who die simply because they were given the less expensive medicine" because the last sentence does say "must ALSO be weighed..." assuming there is extra information being included. But then again as I am typing this I think I was just think "too deep" about it because as I am reviewing the passage it does a lot simpler. However, I didn't think it was the conclusion when the previous question had the sentence "what must ALSO be taken into account..." was considered the premise and not the conclusion. which can be found in the same PT but in section 2 Question. Does all this make sense?

    How can I differentiate between the premise and conclusion if it has the world ALSO?

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    Hi all,

    I applied to several other schools, but I narrowed it down to these 4 schools:

    Texas Tech (no scholarship offer yet) *COA is about $26k/year

    U of Denver (a little less than $$, 2.3 conditional)

    SMU (WL)

    A&M (WL)

    I am a Texas native, but I would be ok with moving to Colorado or staying in Texas for law school and work. I would not want to be in Texas forever though, I'd love to experience and work at another state at some point. I feel like staying in Texas for law school would be the safer route since I am more familiar with the state and have family here. I'll also have close to $50k in savings before I begin.

    One thing that puts me off about U of Denver compared to Tech is after calculating my debt from the accesslex website, I think i'd have around $50-70k more debt at Denver and the average salaries for first year grads from Tech and Denver are about the same, according to their stats. Thoughts between Denver vs Tech? Any help would be appreciated! :D

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    Just finished all the lessons. Would the best thing for me to do is to take PT after PT?

    Is 2-3 PT a week good or too much? I study a min of 5 hours a day and I’m hoping to get a score of 169 in September.

    Also, when should I start drilling the lessons again?

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