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I don't know if I'm just getting worse at the LR timed sections or if the LR sections have changed, so this is normal. I was scoring -1 to -4 in the 30s.

Test 40: -6; BR:-2 and -9; BR -3

Test 43: -6; BR:-2 and -4; BR -2

Test 44: -10; BR:-3 and -6; BR -4

Test 45: -10; BR: -6 and -8; BR -1

Test 46: -8; BR -2 and -9 with BR -3

What is going on? From scoring -5 or less consistently to dropping to -10. Ugh I am so upset.

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Hi all, Is anyone experiencing the same thing as I did. My videos do not play and it seems is across the board. I was unable to play the video on Quiz 3 in "finding pseudo sufficient assumption last night. I had also randomly tried other videos, and they don't play either. This morning too. Thanks,

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hi guys! so i'm a rising senior at boston university (gpa: 3.33) and i had done some review on here since last summer, but i officially started studying properly the beginning of this week to sit the september test. i have the ultimate+ and i'm trying to get through the core curriculum so i can get as much practice and PTs as i can to be ready by then. i know JY and all of you say that take the lsat when you're ready and not plan around an lsat date, but i have 4 months of absolutely nothing to do but to study so i was hoping i'd be ready by september. i'm thinking of doing 25 hours a week would be good (around 5 hours a day, 6 times per week), and i'm hoping to be done with the CC by the end of june (the CC is extremely long so i have no idea how long it would take me to finish and it's really worrying me), and i'd have around 2.5 months to do PTs. do you guys think that would be doable? i did extremely bad on the diagnostic (137) so i am extremely discouraged, but i am very motivated. i want to get to 170 at some point. i know some of you are gonna say that it's a reach and that i can't improve by that much, but i was not at the best mental state when i took the diagnostic so i don't think it's what i would have scored at my best potential. what way do you guys suggest i study or split my time to reach my goal? september lsat is non-negotiable because i'm applying in the fall and i'm doing ED to northwestern. i reckon that 4 months of only LSAT studying should suffice, no? i don't work or anything this summer. any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated! i'm really anxious about the whole thing, like i'm getting a daily anxiety attack thinking about studying and finishing on time reaching my goal. i know this is extremely lengthy so i apologize, i just needed to rant and get this off my chest, and if you made it this far into the post i thank you and any words of wisdom from you would go a long way. thanks guys!

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Hi fellas,

I’ve been studying for the paper version of the LSAT and have very used to certain notation strategies for RC and LR that unfortunately cannot be done on the digital LSAC. I’m sure a lot of people are in this same boat

I’m starting this thread to ask: how are you adapting? What notation strategy do you find most intuitive?

I’ve tried: highlighting the conclusion with yellow. Underlining premises.

Nothing beats being able to circle indicators etc and drawing them back to important points though. And still can’t figure it out for RC.

Anyway, what has worked best for you? Hopefully, our collective sharing of strategies might be able help each other work through the transition!

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I would like to study 15-20 hours per week and sometimes struggle to keep focused. So I created a group me Lsat accountability group if anyone is interested in joining sign up for Group Me and inbox me your number. Let's help each other meet our LSAT goals.

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Hey I plan on taking the LSAT in September. If anyone is interested in setting up a study group inbox me. I live in Brooklyn, but work in the city. We can meet in person Thursdays or Sundays or we can Skype or video chat any day during the evening.

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I’ve noticed my PT score gets significantly lower when PT is the first thing I do in the morning. (Confirmed by the two PTs this week:P) There was 10 points difference between the one I did at 8:30am sharp, and around 11am cause I was lazy and BRed LG from the previous PT on the day of the next PT. Surprisingly I scored a lot lot better after BRing LG before PT, which took me around two hours.

Would two hours of pre-studying before the test be too much for the actual test? I found it helpful but at the same time I’m only doing 4 sections, so it might be different on the real thing. Maybe get too tired by 5th section?

I’m thinking about implementing warm up to my pt routine, so would like some suggestion on what’s the optimal amount.

So wish the tests were all at 1:30PM... why lsac... even proctors wouldn’t want to wake up before 7AM... nobody should be forced to wake up before 7am... just wish everyone’s lifestyle would shift a few hours later so we (more like I,) could be more happy and productive. It’s not like we still live in a time where we have to align our everyday life to sunlight... no more...

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I currently have a 3.9 GPA at FSU with hopes in getting into a T14 law school. My only concern in regards to my transcript is that I have a relatively light course load.

In my third year--I'm entering my fourth year in the fall--I experienced multiple and erratic seizures which forced me to be on medical watch and prevented me from driving or using electronics for some time. Later on in the year, my girlfriend became pregnant with my little baby daughter (:D) and I had to travel and stay in Colombia to accompany her since she lives alone. These impediments forced me to drop the majority of my classes which consequently led me to complete a mere total of 9 credit hours in my Junior year. I explained all of this to my university and they were lenient and cleared me from any heavy academic obligations.

In regards to my credits and graduation pace, I am not off-track since I have taken multiple Summer courses over the years. I am just a bit worried that my lackluster course load, specifically in my third year, may dissuade the T14 law schools from taking my application seriously.

Could my case deter T14 law schools from considering me? I know I should mention this through an addendum but to what extent would that help with their considerations?

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Hello! I know there are a TON OF posts about this topic but I just wanted to see if anyone has any opinions/gotten into law school with the similar circumstances.

I have a dual degree in Cell biology and Women’s studies and ended up with a 2.8 cumulative gpa. If I removed all of my science classes, my gpa would be about aBout a 3.8 (not sure if this matters at all). Since graduating, I have been working for a large medical device company in quality on a large project. By the time I apply, I would have been in the industry for 2 years. I eventually want to get into patent/intellectual property law. I am retaking the lsat again this fall and am aiming for ~165 + .

Has anyone else gotten into a good school with a low gpa, a better than average lsat and work experience?

Are there certain schools that really value work experience?

All opinions are appreciated! Thank you!

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Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

LSAT PT 31

JUNE 2000

section 3 Question 14

Main Point

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-14/

PLEASE HELP. I am confused about why the conclusion is what it is. When I saw the word "since" I knew it was going to introduce a premise. Then I saw the word "because" and thought it introduced another premise. so I thought the main conclusion was the sentence about "when relatives of the patient who die simply because they were given the less expensive medicine" because the last sentence does say "must ALSO be weighed..." assuming there is extra information being included. But then again as I am typing this I think I was just think "too deep" about it because as I am reviewing the passage it does a lot simpler. However, I didn't think it was the conclusion when the previous question had the sentence "what must ALSO be taken into account..." was considered the premise and not the conclusion. which can be found in the same PT but in section 2 Question. Does all this make sense?

How can I differentiate between the premise and conclusion if it has the world ALSO?

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Hi all,

I applied to several other schools, but I narrowed it down to these 4 schools:

Texas Tech (no scholarship offer yet) *COA is about $26k/year

U of Denver (a little less than $$, 2.3 conditional)

SMU (WL)

A&M (WL)

I am a Texas native, but I would be ok with moving to Colorado or staying in Texas for law school and work. I would not want to be in Texas forever though, I'd love to experience and work at another state at some point. I feel like staying in Texas for law school would be the safer route since I am more familiar with the state and have family here. I'll also have close to $50k in savings before I begin.

One thing that puts me off about U of Denver compared to Tech is after calculating my debt from the accesslex website, I think i'd have around $50-70k more debt at Denver and the average salaries for first year grads from Tech and Denver are about the same, according to their stats. Thoughts between Denver vs Tech? Any help would be appreciated! :D

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Just finished all the lessons. Would the best thing for me to do is to take PT after PT?

Is 2-3 PT a week good or too much? I study a min of 5 hours a day and I’m hoping to get a score of 169 in September.

Also, when should I start drilling the lessons again?

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For anyone who is close to done with their prep, did you follow the schedule 7sage generates perfectly or did you tweak it? I started the free trial last week (5 months from my anticipate test date) and I was wondering if the schedule is comprehensive enough. I am shooting for getting the Ultimate. I like this prep the best out of the other ones I have seen. I can pull off atleast 20 hours per a week to prep as well.

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Hi:

Hope everyone’s studies are going well. I’m hitting a low in confidence and motivation. I was drilling sections (PT 30s and 50s) for a good two months and felt like I was starting to understand LR a little better. I wasn’t scoring crazy high in the sections, however, it was considerably higher than what I started with. (-3/5 at my best) I’ve been redoing the questions I did wrong in addition to reviewing them with JY’s video explanations. I usually get over 20 correct when I do BR. Timing has always been an issue for me.

However, in the last week, I’ve moved onto the newest PTs: PT 70s and 80s (skipping around) and I’ve noticed a huge plunge in my LR and even RC sections (which were never that low). My LG is fine which at least I can hold on to that...

My LSAT is June 3. I’m trying not to succumb to pressure and stress but it’s very disheartening to see my progress dip so low a month before the exam.

Does anyone have any LR studying tips? I have roughly four weeks left until my exam. I was thinking of drilling question types I’m weak on.

All as any input is welcome, thank you and good luck everyone!

-N

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For those who are far along in their LSAT journey and used 7Sage to get there, what do you wish you knew before starting the core curriculum? I'm open to tips, tricks, general reflections, etc. I'm going to (officially) start my LSAT journey in a few weeks. I'm taking 7 months off to do nothing but focus on studying for the January LSAT. I love hearing from folks who have more experience than me. What do you wish you knew when you were starting out? Excited to be a part of this community!

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Hey all,

Can someone point me in the direction of the lesson that explains the process by which he came to the conclusion he found at around 8:40 of this instruction video?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-2-game-3/

I've gone through his conditional logic tutorials but I haven't been able to find the lesson where he explains either/or rules in relation to in/out games. Why is it that at least one of L or M must be assigned to the "in" group in this sub-group, while the other is free to float?

Thanks!

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Hey all, hope everyone’s doing great. Would appreciate some input here. Back in February 2018 I took my first diagnostic at this LSAT course I was taking, and I scored a 140. The instructor told us not to guess on this first PT so we could get a solid idea of our weaknesses or something like that. Anyways, fast forward to today and I’m scoring 157 consistently. I’ve become curious about what my diagnostic score would have been had I guessed. I guess I want to know this in order to accurately assess how much I’ve improved thus far. (Feeling really discouraged about still not being to break the 160’s after studying for this test for legit forever lol)

Would appreciate if anyone could give an educated guess about what I would have likely scored had I guessed!

I know this is a weird question lol, and probably a dumb thing to ask, but I’d appreciate any input. Thanks!

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Hi all!

I just have a question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC and what happens when you Satisfy the SC through Valid Argument Form #1 and Deny the NC through Valid Argument Form #2. Here is where my thinking is at right now if any of you can correct me please do!!

Or in the Sufficient Condition

Valid Argument Form #1: Satisfying the Sufficient Condition

A or B --> C

Because it is an or statement there are three ways that can you can possibly satisfy the Sufficient Condition and conclude C.

  • A and /B

  • B and /A

  • A and B (Because unless otherwise specified we default to or as inclusive)

    • Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Necessary Condition

    A or B --> C

    When you deny the Necessary Condition by saying /C you can end up with 3 possibilities.

  • A and /B

  • B and /A

  • /A and /B

    • And in the Necessary Condition

    Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Sufficient Condition

    A --> B and C

    When you say /B and /C you conclude /A because B and C are jointly necessary they must both be denied.

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    I'm gonna be as candid and honest as possible for time purposes as well as for authenticity. I am and have been really struggling with the LSAT. I know that's not special but the amount of time I have been struggling with it is becoming debilitating. I started my journey last June.

    While there were a few months that I stopped studying for necessary reasons, for at least a very solid 6 months let say, I have been grinding it out. I'm a very committed person who prides himself on maintaining a positive attitude--someone who emphasizes continued effort over attachment to outcomes.

    I am here now, less than a month out from writing my second LSAT and am finding myself continually having negative and defeated thoughts. It's not only distracting from the work of studying, it's becoming paralyzing. My story is not unique in regards to having a goal set and wanting to bridge the gap between now and when I accomplish it. What does feel isolating is not maybe being cut out for this.

    Not like any one person can decide for another that, "yes, you're right, you're not cut out for this", but in these dark times when there's little to no progress after a lot of focused effort, your curiosity over whether you are capable of achieving a set goal and it's effects on your life's plans really takes over.

    I am writing this for a couple reasons. I want others who have or are maybe experiencing something similar to know they are not alone. Second, I want people to know that moving forwards while simultaneously acknowledging self doubt is important and maybe helpful. I'm not giving up, I'll continue to put sincere efforts into this goal, and I'm committed to writing this exam in a few weeks.

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