Hey y’all,

I really value the input of community of 7Sage, so just wanted to ask:

Anyone looking to go to UGA law? What do you guys think of the school??

I am applying to start law school in fall 2020. I both graduated college and started my job in August 2019. Will I be considered “1 year out of college”/1 year of work experience when applying to law schools, since it will be around that much time until I start law school? Or will I basically be viewed as kjd?

Thank you

Hi everyone,

I had been practicing with the LSAT official books (50s, 60s, 70s) and I recently purchased the 80s via 7sage. I noticed that in the 80s, there's a bit of a shift with the LR. I can't quite describe the changes, but I feel like there is an increased of "debatable" questions/questions that push you to make assumptions in ways that earlier tests didn't... for example, in PT 83 section 1 #18 (LR):

If the standards committee has a quorum, then the assembly will begin today at 6:00. If the awards committee has a quorum, then the assembly will begin today at 7:00. (MBT)

In the explanation, it says that we should "safely assume" that if the assembly starts at 6 then it does not start at 7 and vice versa, however, I feel like this prompt doesn't necessarily show any indication that both things couldn't happen. I made the correct assumption based on the answer options and the wording "will begin today" (something can only "begin" once), but the greater point is, it seems like the newer LSATs include more subtleties and newer patterns like this question.... am I crazy or am I on to something?

If I'm not crazy, then for those who have scored 165+, I'm curious how you adapted to these changes.

I had been scoring in the high 160s, low 170s for the earlier PTs, but my score dropped to low 160s on both the real LSAT and on 80s PTs. I have 2 more fresh 80s that I haven't taken yet, and I'm struggling to figure out how to prepare leading up to the November test. I'd love to hear others' experiences on adapting to subtle changes in LR.

Thanks!

Hi everyone - I just got the Microsoft Surface Go Tablet and I've been trying to do some problem sets on it. I'm having a lot of trouble with highlighting/underlining (with my fingers and a stylus). Can someone give me some pointers as to how to do this? Or point me to a tutorial? I've been searching online but haven't come across actual "how to take test on tablet" tutorials that details the highlighting. I know this sounds silly but I want to get this down so it's not another thing to worry about when taking the test. Thanks!

Hey guys!

I did all the way up to Sufficient Assumptions and beginning to work on Pseudo SA. I wanted to work on Logic Games as it is a weak section for me and this is not my first course. I wanted to finish LG so I can start PT'ing properly. I see 3 options.

I'm registered for the November 2019 LSAT, but every test center is currently full. My account says that I have a seat reserved but I'm technically not guaranteed a spot yet. Does anyone know if LSAC usually finds locations for reserves? I'm nervous that they may make me take the January LSAT instead. I'm trying to get scholarships at decent schools (not necessarily aiming for t-14, but will apply to a few) but I'm not sure if this is possible applying this late in the cycle. I didn't score that well for September and I basically only have a month to study for November, so I wouldn't mind taking January to have more studying time. I really want to start in 2020 but I don't know if that's realistic if I have to do the January LSAT. Would appreciate any advice or feedback

I'm a little bit confused. I spent 4 months at an international institution which did not grant a certificate or a diploma. It was a language school, not an undergraduate school. There seems to be a disagreement regarding international transcripts between certain schools and the LSAC. Examples of a school's policy and the LSAC's policy are shown below.

Some school: "If you have received academic credit for coursework taken abroad while enrolled as a full-time student [check], and if grades for that period of study are not clearly indicated on your home transcript [check], you must send that foreign study transcript directly to LSAC."

However, LSAC says: "...you were directly enrolled at one or more institutions outside of the United States [check], its territories/associated states, or Canada and the total amount of work you completed at all of these institutions combined is the equivalent of more than one year of undergraduate study [no check]..."

The time at my international institution was full-time but less than 1 year of undergraduate study so according to LSAC I need not send transcripts from the international school. I am mentioning the international school on my resume.

What do I do?

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Hi all — if I haven’t taken any timed practice tests and I’m taking the October LSAT in less than 2 weeks — Which test should I start with? I am thinking June 2019 and then working backwards?

For the personal statement should one write

A- a certain factor/story that affected someone greatly and provided tools to help them succeed as a lawyer

or

B- have a personal statement that contains multiple stories of a persons life that shaped them instead of one factor/story

I got a 157 on the July 15th test and improved to a 169 on the Sept 21st test! I studied 30/40 hours a week for those 9 weeks, mostly drilling PTs, BRing, and fool proofing logic games. My goal was a 168 and after july I never thought that I'd be able to achieve it. I spent so much time looking for success stories on these forums hoping that they'd boost my confidence, so I decided to post one of my own.

Just study hard and know that you can do it!! (Meditation and visualizations are really helpful too)

Would like to jump on the call and ask several questions. Thanks!

Even though conditional logic seemed easy when I went through the CC, it continues to trip me up on harder questions, so I'm reviewing some basics:

To have a valid conditional statement, the SOME or MOST statement must come first followed by the ALL statement. (You can't conclude ANYTHING if the ALL statement comes before a SOME or MOST statement.) So A some B->C, therefore A some C is valid. Also A most B->C, therefore A most C is valid.

In a valid argument, the conclusion must be true. Basic valid argument examples include affirming the sufficient (A->B, A, therefore B ) ; denying the necessary (A->B, /B, therefore /A); transitive property (A->B->C, therefore A->C).

Other valid arguments show us instances where one thing (A) arrows out to two other things and there's therefore overlap between those two other things:

If A->B and A->C, then B some C.

If A->B and A some C, then B some C.

If A->B and A most C, then B some C.

If A most B and A most C, then B some C.

Invalid arguments mean the conclusion doesn't have to be true. Examples include affirming the necessary (A->B, B, therefore A); denying the sufficient (A->B, /A, therefore /B), and putting the ALL statement before the MOST or SOME statement (A->B some C, therefore A some C OR A->B most C, therefore A most C).

Other invalid arguments show us that we can't conclude anything from 2 some SOME statements:

A some B some C, therefore A some C (transitive property does NOT apply to SOME statements)

A most B most C, therefore A most C (transitive property does NOT apply to MOST statements)

A some B, A some C, therefore B some C.

You cannot take a contrapositive of a SOME or MOST statement.

Quantifiers have specific meanings on the LSAT that are often counterintuitive. Some is the trickiest one because it means at least one, but could be limited to one, and could go up to all. Be suspicious 😒 of ACs that use any variation of some, such as sometimes and somewhat. Always ask, “just one??” Many sucks too because is the same as some; it is not MOST. Few means some are, most are not. In most cases, we're talking about 3 or 4, but we can think of the range as up to 50 because more than that is MOST.

If someone is not admitted to law school because of a low LSAT score, can they use the same exact application for the next cycle with a higher retake score? Assuming they had a solid personal statement and LoRs. Thank you.

Do you take it at home? Im not sure I am understanding when and how it is administered.

143 to 173

Thank you JY, I couldn't have done it without 7Sage. And a big thank you to Jonathan Wang, Mike Kim, Daniel Sieradzki, Josh Aldy, Patrick Tyrell, Graeme, Alex, the people in my study group, and many others.

150 on diagnostic to 167 on September. Thank you so much 7sage!! For those out there who read the comments/threads that say you can’t really improve your score, it is possible. Take your time, study the way you need to, and don’t worry about what others say. Handle your test anxiety, relax, and you will be surprised by what you can accomplish. For me, I finally needed to realize that this test did not define me. When I finally said “screw it,” my score improved significantly. You got this!

I have a pretty embarrassing situation from when I was younger.

Wondering how much detail I need to go into about the actual sequence of events.

I have an optional addendum document written out explaining this entire period of my life.

Thoughts?

Happy to give more details in private messages.

Thanks--

Kat

My stats are 165 LSAT and 3.94 LSAC GPA

I don't want to retake right now because I am leaning towards going to a school that would give me a scholarship; however, I was thinking to apply to NYU for more options.

Not sure whats going on... Usually when I do LG from super recent tests like 80s and 70s i get -2 max. When I do games from older tests I can usually get the games right in under time and all right. Recently just did 63 and 65, the games definitley arent hard. I went -5 and -6 which I dont think i have done since I finished the CC. Is this a horrible sign or emergency? Im freaked out

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Hi guys im pretty sure these kind of questions were asked many many times.

but somehow i had to let it out too.

i started the journey about a year ago but when i started i was just browsing and getting to know what lsat was

since i have a fulltime job i'd just drill here and there (didnt know 7sage back then) and started committing this july

July-Aug mainly finishing CC and drilling, Aug-Sep PTing i took about 5PTs

and i took sept test, score was lower than i expected but nothing really surprising since i bombed LG the one that im good at.

I was just whining about my score to my bf and how i felt 2months of intense studying might have been ,timewise, not enough,

in response, i heard something shocking from him saying that

'its just a standardized test the longer you studying does not mean you will get better (somepart i agree), 2-3 months of studying should get you where your maximum potential would be at (i disagree)'

as i was studying i started to learn and see the patterns, flaws and gaps i could anticipate the answers before i read AC. A clear sign that much room to improve.

well i know his opinion shouldnt matter since it's coming from someone hasnt done LSAT

(he is super smart ;p and i guess most of his lawyer friends didn't take very long to get a good lsat score so he thinks it's easy)

but its somehow very discouraging coming from someone very close to me. Also making me think i might not be meant for this path.

anyhow long story short,

my problem is this emotional rollercoaster is tackling me to focus, i registered for NOV so i have no time to waste

please help me to get out of this deep self pity hole.

and the other tips im asking is my reading is very slow

my TImed pt and BR score gap is huge sometimes by 20 points mostly because i cant finish in time.

i know reading speed boosts with time and practice

RC i can never get to the last psg but the psgs i read id get -0~-2

thanks for reading my lame ranting

i usually deal with it by myself but this time i needed someone or somewhere to talk to

pleas share any thoughts and advice!

One year out of undergrad, 4 different legal internships, strong LR

Hoping I'll be able to use it as a PT before I take in October!

Walked away from the September LSAT with a 166. My GPA for my best three years is a 3.86 and a 3.92 for my best two years. Planning on going to school in Ontario. Should I write again in October?

My last 15 PTs have all been over 170.