Hello,

I have several questions for those who score close to -0 on Logic Games.

Do you usually have time left over at the end of the section? How much time do you have left and how do you make use of that time?

Do you ever skip questions or games and how do you decide to make that decision?

How much time do you spend on the first two games? Is it recommended to get them done in less than 13 minutes so that I have at least 22 minutes for the last two games? I know that sometimes Game 2 can be really time consuming, but since usually game 1 can be done quickly, I am wondering if you have a max. time limit for games 1 and 2, even given the circumstances that game 2 is difficult.

I ask this question because I usually find myself at 15min at the end of game 2 and I often run out of time by the time I am at game 4.

Thank you so much for reading this.

hi! for law school apps under the "List the academic honors and awards, or other recognitions you have received"

do I list all/any of the following:

thanks!

Is it weird that I miss the studying? It has been9 days since the Nov 2018 test, and now that Thanksgiving is over I have nothing to occupy my time. It's like a weird form of Stockholm Syndrome where I miss what had kept me captive for so long. Lol I guess I've got to find a new focus. Application here I come

Hi all!

I just got an awesome job offer that would require me to submit my applications as a part time evening law student rather than full time. ....but I'm not sure if that's doable for someone who is not a superhuman student, but always an honor student with great study habits.

Give it to me straight - is it possible without major life stress/issues? If so, how'd you (or someone you know) do it?

Thank ya!

EDIT: I am financially independent and am weighing paying with loans for all of law school and living expenses if I go full time OR being more financially stable with a career building job and a salary while going to school in the evening. The way I view it, either way I'll be at 100% - in your personal experience, are you glad you worked and went part time?

Hi 7 sage fam!

So I've actually been tying myself in knots, trying to find answers to this question. But I realized (silly me) that I have an amazing resource right here! Thanks in advance for your time and attention!

So my situation is pretty straightforward. I was going to take the LSAT this Nov and then postponed till Jan because I knew I wasn't ready. Made that decision the week of the exam. On the one hand, this is great, because my blind review is already in the 99th percentile and all I need is time to get my timed score to match (thanks 7 sage!). On the other hand, it does mess up my application plans. I had planned--and common wisdom I collected told me--that I should have my application in before Thanksgiving if possible to have the best chance. And if not, then before Christmas. Now, my common wisdom maybe old, as the last time I attempted a law school bid was about 5 years ago, but that's what I was told at the time. Given the fact that I won't have my scores until Feb, when should I submit my application? I do have an old score (161) on my record so technically my application, when complete, can be considered.

For those of you who'll want more context, I'm applying to mostly T-15 schools. During my last attempt at law school, I was waitlisted at Columbia, NYU, Georgetown (special waitlisted there) with 158, 15x and 161 lsat scores on my record. The high 150 scores have since expired.

Thank you!

Hey all,

I am taking the lsat again in January. I’m in my last semester of college and have already applied. I’m having difficulty carving out time each day to study. How much time should I be spending each day on the exam? I’ll have more free time once school is over but have a lot of anxiety about the test when I am not studying for it.

Thanks!

Hi! I've been studying for a couple months now, primarily using PTs 52-81. I was planning on taking the November exam and worked through most of them in anticipation, and then I missed the sign up date by literally a day, and got stuck having to wait for the January exam -- so I'm getting really close to being out of tests. What I don't want to do is get stuck in a situation where I'm taking exams where I'm overly familiar with the questions.

I could buy old PTs, but I'm not sure how relevant they are to the current exam -- I've heard logic games are pretty outdated. Should I buy them and work out of them now, then with a month out go back to the newer tests? Or should I not buy them at all and just stagger the practice tests until January?

Hi all,

I already took a gap year, so I do not want to wait for the next cycle. I am registered for the January LSAT, but am not sure of whether I should submit my applications before that, or just hit the send button after I receive my score sometime in February. I'm applying to regional schools with priority deadlines in mid-March, April, and even August, but I'm still extremely worried. What should I do? I would appreciate any input. Thanks.

Good Afternoon, Everyone

I am trying to understand the incorrect answer choices for this Question. What would answer choice b look like in an argument.

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Hello. I have been having some trouble with actually solidifying my understanding of the meaning of Sufficient Conditions and Necessary Conditions as I found the information provided in the core curriculum in regard to the topic to be a bit vague. I seem to always get confused and lack confidence when I have to deal with a conditional relationship in an argument because I just take the Premises of the argument to mean the Sufficient Condition and the Conclusion of the argument to mean the Necessary Condition. If someone can please clarify it for me or correct my understanding of this it would be much appreciated.

Also I have been having some difficulty with knowing when exactly to diagram Lawgic. Are we only supposed to diagram when we see words from Group 1-4 of the Sufficient and Necessary Condition indicators?

General Structure of Conditional Statements: Sufficient Condition --> Necessary Condition

Sufficient Condition

Necessary Condition

In the generic Employment section of schools' online applications you list all your jobs, including internships. Because of the way you fill in the information, you aren't able to list one job with multiple hours worked (e.g. lower hours for a while when studying, then back to normal hours).

How do you handle working the same job but with periods of different hours? Do you list the same job twice with different hours? Just list one job but using your current hours? Any tips? It feels a little misleading just using current hours, but then it feels really silly putting the same job twice (as if you're trying to make yourself look busier than you are..?)

Up until July of this year I was working a good job at a well-known law firm. I then quit to study for the Sept LSAT, and in October I moved across the country and got a minimum wage job. I think my job at that firm would look really good at the top of the experience section in my resume, but I also don't want it to look like I have been unemployed for 5 months when I submit my applications in December. What should I do??

Hi. I took the June 2018 LSAT. I did not do well on it at all. I scored way under 150. I need over 150 on the LSAT to be competitive for my first choice local law school. I did minimal preparation for this last exam. I just did the Power Score accelerated course two times and Insight LSAT free on YouTube. I did not really do any practice exams. All of this did not obviously help me out enough. I have a few questions for paid 7Sage members. I have to repeat the LSAT again in March of 2019 in 4 months. Here are the questions. Thanks! :) 1) Is 4 months enough time to fully prepare? 2) I was thinking and planning on getting the basic $179 starter 7Sage package. Is that package adequate enough for me to do well on the next LSAT? Or do I really need a higher package? 3) Should I also get all of the Power Score bible books to supplement the $179 7Sage package? Or that is just too much then? 4) How many practice tests do you recommend taking and fully going over? Thank you for all of the help!

I plan on taking the March LSAT and I could get through all the PTs before then, but I am considering whether I should save at least 10 or so in case I want to also take the June or July test. What is recommended in this situation?

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Is it acceptable to have, say, a size 12 font resume and a size 11 font personal statement (or vice versa)? Or am I taking the "be consistent" advice too far?

The deadline to request an admission interview (for Vandy) is Dec 1st. However, since I took the LSAT (for the first time) in Nov, I will not receive my score until the first week of Dec. So....

Should I go ahead and schedule an interview without knowing my LSAT score? (They do allow you to request an interview before your application is completed.)

If I do move forward with the interview this year, but decide to postpone my application until next year, will I need to do another interview?

Any advice or additional information would be great! Thank you!

Hi everyone!

I just took the November Lsat, and although we haven't received our scores yet, I am strongly considering taking the Jan Lsat. I have registered for it alreay because I am sure I can increase my score from wherever it is right now, and I would like to guarantee a spot in law school for Fall 2019.

So while preparing for my November Lsat, I noticed that my strongest area is LG. However, i'm never able to finish all 4 games. I have a strong grasp of most rules, but is there a way I can get around to completing all 4 games on time? I'm not sure how i can do this, i've been practicing and practicing and practicing. (I've been studying on and off for the Lsat since April, and wrote my first lsat in September)

Another area I'm looking to improve on is LR. I have gone through the CC and understand all the concepts, i have even read the powerscore book, however I can't seem to improve when I do the actual questions (i always get approx. -8 to -11). There aren't any specific questions i get wrong, it's different kind every time, a mix of everything. So i'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or missing something because i can't seem to get better at LR. Any tips?

My RC is alright, i haven't focused too much on this sections because it's the hardest to improve for me. So i've put all of my efforts on my improving on LG and LR.

My PT have been in the low 150s and I'm still waiting on my November Lsat score.

I'm aiming to get a score of 155-160 for the january lsat.

Anyone in Seoul (who is also aiming for the January LSATs) interested in forming a study group? Thinking of weekends PT sessions together.

So I'm done with the core curriculum and have started taking PTs. I've taken about 10 so far and this is what i'm getting

6-10 questions wrong for LR, 0-2 questions wrong for LG, and 0-4 questions wrong for RC

On average I score anywhere between 168-172. I'm aiming for at least a 175 (I know it sounds lofty but I don't have a high GPA) but I'm not sure what I should do. I know I need to work on LR and a bit on RC but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions?

Does Yale 250 essay have to have exactly 250 words? Can it be less than 250? (for example, can it be 210 words? or should I fill it up at least to 245 words if I can't make it exactly 250?)

Thank you in advance for your responses!

Three days ago, I got admission from Cornell Law school under binding ED program.

I know this is nothing to brag about as I am more than convinced there are many prospective law school applicants who will definitely do better. But for me, this is a great accomplishment and I don't think I could have made it happen without the help from JY and David.

I am a South Korean and have very limited experience in studying in the United States. And as you can assume, my command of English is naturally not as great as others. Studying LSAT was a huge obstacle for me and it was JY's lectures that really helped me get reasonably good score on LSAT. In fact, 7 sage was the only LSAT resource that I eventually used because I was confident that its methods better befitted me than any other resources did.

When I started studying LSAT, I could not finish half the questions on any sections. I could not imagine how it was possible for anyone to finish LG section in time as I barely finished two games in 40 minutes. I closely followed JY's instruction on Blind Reviews and tried to internalize JY's way of reasoning to eliminate wrong answer choices and choose the right answers. Thinking in terms of example and analogy in understanding the text ( as JY often did) was what helped me the most in tackling hard questions. JY has his own unique tone and way of talking (I think) and when I tried to explain some of the PT questions to my study mates, I realized I was talking like JY at some point. I think that was the extent to which I tried to think like JY and I believe it worked.

JY once visited Seoul to give lectures on RC in person and I think his lectures on low-resolution summary and the way of tackling comparative passages were the reason I could make a leap on my RC scores. Because after adopting his methods and the frame of thinking, my RC score started to improve and I don't think that's a causation-correlation error. He also bought all the students who attended his class some really great burittos, so if JY visits your city, you definitely have enough incentive to go and take his class.

I never broke that wall of 170 by a slight margin and I really wish I had. But I can confidently say that 7 Sage is the way to go if anyone is aiming for 170 over on LSAT.

I also used 7 Sage admission service and David is such a fantastic editor. Seeing his edit is like seeing someone magically solving a rubix cube in an unbelievably short span of time. He can really help you draft a clean, refined and structured essay and can give you specific advice on where to revise and what to revise. Without David and other editors, I am unsure of how my personal essay along with many optional essays would have turned out. I really loved how each of my essay looked after his final edit and was convinced that these essays would work.

7 Sage was how I got the LSAT score and essays that worked for Law school admission. I owe many thanks to 7 Sage for I genuinely believe its service was what enabled me to successfully finish this long and hard journey for law school admission. I will now stop my long rambling praise on 7 Sage and wish all the best luck to 7 Sage users.

Thank you 7 Sage.

Gam sa hapnida.

PT 43 destroyed me. I missed more on LR than ever before AND I missed more on RC than ever before. By a lot. No idea why. Has anyone else experienced an off-day to this degree or am I actually burned out and just need to walk away for a few days?

premise: Group A took medicine X.

premise: Group B did not take medicine X.

BUT identical results were found in both groups.

conclusion: Hence, X is ineffective.

I'm trying to approach this in a formulaic way but I always find myself being led by answer choices. What do you think is the most LSAT way to strengthen(assumption)/weaken the argument above?

Hi everyone!

I have just started working my way through the CC and I'm already glad I chose 7sage as my study course. For context, I am a non-traditional applicant 7 years out of undergrad and almost 4 years out of my masters program, working full-time in a policy advisor position for a federal agency in DC. My undergrad GPA was low (2.94) so I need to rock the LSAT. My cold diagnostic a week ago before I started 7sage was a 151.

I am planning to apply next fall for the 2019-2020 cycle and I would like to apply as early as possible to give myself a good chance. I am trying to nail down which LSAT date I should aim for while still having time for a retake if necessary. I was originally thinking March 2019, but I want to give myself time to foolproof LG, drill, and take PTs so I don't know if that seems too aggressive. Would either the June or July 2019 exam be best? I am also concerned about whether the July exam possibly being digital is a positive or negative.