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I took the LSAT back in 2008-2009. I took Kaplan prep course which did not help in any way. The instructor was on speed and just assumed everyone understood what was being taught. I got 140. Then self studied and again, got 140. It was terrible. I honestly felt lost; Defeated. I gave up, hating this test because it just made me feel so stup*d. Anyways fast forward to 2018, I've decided to try again, yes ten years later. -__- I'm trying to find a really good course program, one that does not assume everyone is the smartest person on the planet, if that makes sense. I've been out of school for ten years so I am like literally starting back up from dirt.

I've seen so many online courses, I came across 7sage, Alpha score, and the LSAT trainer. I've read terrible reviews about the LSAT trainer, but haven't really seen any reviews on 7sage and Alpha Score. Can anyone give any feed back on any of these two? I'm really looking for a course that's really going to break down and explain each section to where the average joe (me) can get it.

I feel like I have enough time to really learn how to finally get a decent score on this test. At least I think I do.

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After taking the LSAT a few times, I feel like the self-imposed pressure of the real tests has caused me to rush during the test. I've had trouble simulating the actual nerves on the test. I'm too relaxed during PT's. Truthfully, that relaxation is what I'd like to achieve, since it has helped me score high PT's. And I'll think some more on that. However, I want to shake it up a little. I am thinking of trying all the section in 30 mins. Obviously, there is a point where this becomes absurd. How about 25 mins? How about 20? I'll play around with it, but any thoughts on how to ramp up the pressure in PT's so that it can feel closer to a real test?

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I'm wrestling with the idea of applying to Yale by Feb 28. I just took the LSAT 2 days ago. I think I did okay (my gut says it was between 13-15 misses or a 167, best case scenario maybe a 172). I had only recently committed myself to wanting to go to law school, which is why I missed the December LSAT and a number of the application cycles for schools that express concerns against testing in February. Fortunately Yale is not one of those schools; they accept Feb test scores without a stated penalty to the applicant's admission chances. Yale is the only top 5 law school to which this applies, and I also have legacy at Yale which I think may help my chances.

I'm 28 now, waiting a year and applying next winter would mean I start Law School when I'm 30. I also don't know what I would do with the extra year besides work and save. I'm currently in a career field somewhat unrelated to law (corporate finance), so I don't think an extra year of work experience would particularly bolster my application (I've already worked for 6 years since graduating college). So applying this year and starting in the fall (if I get in) makes a lot of sense...though there are some things I'm unsure of:

The deadline to apply for financial aid in March 15, though I imagine many students have already applied. does applying for aid this late reduce chances of receiving grants/scholarships?

Does an LSAT score of 170 realistically even qualify me for any aid at a school like Yale? Is the criteria for aid need based or merit based? Socioeconomically my family is UMC and I personally have non-liquid assets (homeowner's equity)

As mentioned Yale doesn't actually communicate a "penalty" for Feb LSAT test takers, does anyone have information to suggest this may not truly be the case?

Question about re-application...I obviously don't know my LSAT score yet, so in that sense I'm sort of applying "blind". It's entirely possible I screwed up more than I thought and my score is more like a 160, which would obviously seriously hurt my chances. Does re-applying to the same law school a year later put you at a disadvantage against students who are applying for the first time?

Any thoughts/insights are appreciated. If it makes sense to wait or if I should just go for it.

Thanks!

Hari

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Hello,

So I took the February 2018 LSAT but I am anticipating to retake it this June.

I think I did well (probably around 168-173), but I think I can do better next time.

That being said, I think I currently only have 5 full PT left. Usually my study consist of mostly doing full PT and BRing.

I haven't done PT 1-35, although obviously I have done many of the QS from the curriculum and the LG drill.

My last 5 PT averages are 171.

Any tips as to how I can improve my score on my June LSAT?

Thanks!

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Warning: long post ahead.

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on submitting an LSAT addendum? I'm really embarrassed to say this and to list my scores, but I took the LSAT last Saturday for the fourth time. I have taken the test three others times: Sept. 2016 (142), June 2017 (145), and Sept. 2017 (145). I have very bad test anxiety, and during the September 2017 test I had a panic attack. After receiving my September score, which was lower than I thought I'd get, I went to my doctor and was prescribed beta-blockers. I was scoring in the 150s on every PT I took leading up to the exam, but a week before the test I had a meltdown, emailed my advisor and instructor, and both told me not to put the test off and just take it. I have always been someone who trusts their intuition, so I am mad at myself for not holding off.

Fast forward to last Saturday's test: leading up to the test my score jumped to a 158 on PTs and I was scoring consistently higher in each section. I was pretty calm for most of the week, but Saturday morning I was clearly anxious (my heart rate was ~115 beats/minute). I ended up taking a beta blocker before the test, but I still feel like I didn't score well again this time. I could be wrong (and honestly this could just be nerves), but I'm wondering how an LSAT addendum would be taken if the reason for low scores is due to test anxiety? I don't think I would have test anxiety in law school - I think the reason I get even more anxious taking the LSAT is that I feel like this test is the only thing stopping me from getting admitted. I also don't know if an admissions committee will look negatively at this, and question whether I'd get test anxiety in law school and when taking the Bar? I'm also concerned because I already have an addendum for my GPA. It's considered low; it's a 3.02. All honest opinions/advice welcome. Thank you!

Side note: I would get in to my state school and others I'm interested in with a score in the 150s - I don't have the GPA for a T-14. I do, however, have very strong softs!

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Hello,

I need some insight on what exactly I should omit from my Resume. I graduated undergrad in 2012 and went back for my paralegal cert. in 2015. I have 5 years work experience. I also have a ton of extracurricular activities(boxing, dancing, mentoring), Honor Society's and leadership positions during undergrad. Should I include all of those things or should I stick to my skills and employment experience? Thanks for your responses!

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I took the test this Saturday and I am very conflicted on what to do. I took the test in Connecticut. It was 30 something degrees outside that morning. The room was initially warm when I got there so I sat in the corner by the window. We lost heat in the room when the test started and I basically took the first half of the exam shivering and freezing the entire time ( I am anemic). My hands were shaking the entire time because I was so cold. It was fixed during our break and we had heat the second half of the exam. The only section I was not able to complete was one of the sections I took during the first half. I honestly don't know if it was difficult or if was the conditions or maybe both coupled with nerves. Leading up to the exam, I haven't had any problems completing the sections. In fact I was really excited because I had spent a year prepping and I was scoring very well on my PTs.

To make things worst my proctor--(very sweet elderly lady) would continue to give us instructions AFTER starting our time. She did this for EVERY section. So as I am reading question number 1 with the clock running, she would be talking. I don't think it was intentional. She was very kind...but those seconds do add up. Everything is telling me I should cancel and reach out to LSAC. Any advice?

I am very bummed. I really wanted to be done with the LSAT after this weekend.

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Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. Back ground first, actual question further down, skip if you want:

Background: I'm going in on the Ultimate package this Friday and looking to start my build up for my next run at the LSAT. I just sat for the Feb 18 LSAT (1st "real" LSAT score) and as expected, the LG sections (thanks experimental) threw me for a loop. LG is by far my weakest section. Bullet points on my history: Self study for ~6 months (LSAT Trainer, Manhattan LR, PS LG Bible). 20 full PTs in during previous build, diagnostic 147 (I got 3 right on LG on my diagnostic), with a slow but steady increase over the next 19 (10 out of the last 11 PTs score range from 160-164 with a rolling average of ~162 for the last 5). LR typical performance is ~20-22 questions complete with -0/-3 range, RC typical performance is all passages read, all questions answered with ~-3/-4, LG on a good day sees me completing 3 games and 1st question on last one with -4/-5. I'm retired military / stay at home dad with a decent amount of time to dedicate to LSAT study. I tend to max out "good study" at 4-5 hours a day and I like to reserve at least one full weekend day to not study / family time. I've religiously watched the 7Sage LG videos during review and they have really helped my understanding increase, but I'm not where I want to be at this point.

I want to take the full CC to tighten up my knowledge / understanding of the test across all three sections and hopefully increase speed as a natural result of a deeper understanding (vs trying to "go faster"). I also know that LG is my weakest by far and the area in which I can hopefully close the gap the most. I want to target one of the next three LSAT dates (June / July / Sept) and apply to school during the fall of this year. I'll sign up for a testing date after I start scoring at / above my desired target (169).

ACTUAL QUESTION: Is it reasonable to take the CC and start fool proofing LG at the same time? I envision 2-3 hours of CC and 1-2 hours of LG specific work (fool proofing) a day. Is it reasonable for me to do both concurrently and obtain the learning objectives I have given where I am in my current understanding of each section?

Thanks in advance. This is a great community / supportive space. As a guy soon turning 46, I tend to chuckle when I read the people half my age worrying about starting law school "too late" in life. :) I'm not worried about my age in law school, I'm worried about finding a first time law job at 50...

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I put 10 copies of each of the games from the Powerscore Re-challenge into a OneNote notebook (screenshotted from my kindle copy). It was incredibly useful for foolproofing. The table of contents has a mastery checklist and also has links to each of the games. Each game page also has a link to J.Y's explanation videos on the 7sage website.

You can view some screenshots here:

https://ibb.co/j00W37

https://ibb.co/cu5yi7

https://ibb.co/n5YPan

I want to share for those of you who have Onenote on a tablet pc. It allowed me to carry my logic games prep with me everywhere.

You can download the notebook here: https://nofile.io/f/6KngWJsexb6/Logic+Games+Foolproofing.zip

You'll just need to extract it into your onenote notebooks folder (C:\Users[username]\Documents\OneNote Notebooks)

Also, to avoid illegally distributing content I password protected the zipfile. If you would like to use it, please send me a note verifying you own the current edition of the Powerscore Logic Games Bible (or, all of the preptests in the 2nd screenshot) and I will send you the password to unlock the zip file.

Hope this helps some!

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Took the February test and the proctor made a mess of the time. She cut one section short by three minutes and extended a different section by 7 minutes. Being a 7Sager gave me the focus I needed to get through it without having a panic attack. Although, few test takers didn't fare as well.

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So I was doing a MSS Question, specifically:

LSAT Preptest 20, Section 1, Question 1

After reading the stimulus, I went to the answer choices. Something clicked for me - I went back to the stimulus, read it, and then said “therefore,” then read each answer choice individually until I found one that I felt made a reasonable conclusion, given the set of premises in the stimulus. I settled on Answer Choice B through this method.

Am I onto something?

For the record, I haven’t gotten to the MSS Question type lessons on 7Sage, so if I have merely “discovered” something that JY goes over, please burst my bubble and tell me so.

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So, I took my December 17 LSAT and received a 135. I self-prepped and had anxiety once i took the exam. I decided to join 7sage and prepped through this course until the Feb exam. I felt confident during the exam but time was running out so I had to guess on a few questions. My main question is, is it a bad thing if I take off an academic year to focus on getting a better LSAT score? I graduate with my undergrad degree in May 2018. I just want to make the right decision because I know many schools do not accept June LSAT scores for the fall.

Thanks 7Sagers !

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Hey everyone, I want to announce that you can now search text within a lesson!

Some of you are thinking, "Wait, we couldn't do that before?" Yeah, that wasn't a thing before. But now it is!

Try it out. Let us know if it's working right for you.

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I've been wanting to go to ASU law school for a while now...and it's feeling like a pipe dream. I know it's achievable and it's not like it's Harvard or Yale but I'm having a difficult time with my LSAT and GPA.

I have taken the LSAT twice by now, one was in 2017 February and February of this year. I'm a bit sad because I studied hard to aim for 160+ (a good acceptance rate for the law school of my dreams with my GPA), and I know for a sure that I did not get 160 on this February test.

Last year I got 152, and this year I'm expecting a solid 155 or even less.

With the admissions coming up, I'm still going to apply (again), but I'll have to wait until next year to apply if I get rejected. If I got less than 160 (I'm 99% sure I did, unless I guessed by pure luck), according to the law school numbers, I have about 0% chance of getting accepted.

So next year and the 3rd LSAT it is...

My main question is, when should I take the 3rd LSAT? Should I take it during December...or should I wait until 2019 February again?

Should I take the 3rd one in June that's coming up, and if I don't get the score I need, take a 4th one in December?

What are your guys' opinions?

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Hi all,

I'm from Canada and am considering applying to the US.

I'm very interested in entertainment law. I'd like to apply to US law schools, but I'm not sure if it'll be a good idea. First off, I'd have to consider cost of school and could only go with a huge scholarship which is easier said than done. Secondly, I know certain Canadian schools allow you to sit for the bar in certain states, but a friend of mine was speaking of NAFTA regulations, Trump and how Canadians won't be able to just "hop on over to practice". I'd also have to consider immigration, I'm not sure if USA jobs offer this option. Either way, I'm considering all of these things because it is something I intend to consider in the near future.

Thanks

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I normally crush the LG section and I found it really hard. I couldn't get past a few inconsistencies (obviously on my end). But I would like to know just quick responses. Harder, typical, or easier than usual?

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I have learned so much already, however, I know my best is yet to come.

Pros:

7Sage is truly amazing!

The Casio watch J.Y. recommends rocks during actual testing (I think that is why the price is up to $19.92, yes .92 that is odd right, at the store – but I can tell you it is worth every penny)! While they had a clock in the test center, I would have had zero chance trying to follow it during the live sections. I don’t think I would ever want to test without it – thank you J.Y.!!!!

I believe I scored exactly in line with how I was prepared – nothing caught me off guard – I felt great about my strong sections and struggled in my weak ones.

Understanding where my weak sections are actually fueled my confidence while I struggled through them if that makes sense. In other words, I knew what I didn’t know therefore it did not shake me at all while testing.

Cons:

Here is where I need your help –

I am determined to score a 160+ in June (I have been currently scoring in the low 150’s). Do I just start the course over from the beginning and try to deepen my understanding of all of the fundamentals, or, do I focus on the lowest hanging fruit which for me is by far Logic Games (this is my worst section every time and it is not even close).

I appreciate this community so much – thanks for taking the time to help someone that has been asking a ton of basic questions – I hope to pay it forward someday (after my second test of course, lol)!

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