Hello!

I have a question for this wonderful community. Does it work against prospective law students to take time off after college?

If I take the LSAT in June 2018 and start in the fall of 2019, I'll have taken 2 years "off." I'm concerned because I worked for an attorney who told me it wasn't good for my application to take time off. He said people who do take time off usually hold prestigious positions, e.g., in politics, before they attend law school and that has helped them get into top schools. I've got a a decent resume and a very high undergrad GPA. But I'm taking time off because I want to do very well on the LSAT. What do you all think?

I am currently starting to go over LR once again to really improve and I want to make changes to how I approach improving each type of question.

This question is applicable to all LR type questions, but I want to know what your routine is for improving a certain type of LR question. Do you do problem sets and then drill an entire LR section. Just problem sets? Timed? Not timed? I think you see where I'm going with this. I've also gone through the CC twice so many of the problem sets are familiar to me and it hurts my objectivity sometimes.

I just want to hear your different ways to about this. Thanks y'all!

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I was cruising through some applications today filling out the odds and ends, and saw at least 1 app that said it required you to submit parental financial information with the FAFSA. Yikes... is this common?

As a 33 year old non-traditional student, this seems patently absurd. I really don't want to involve my parents in this process. And as a very grown, very independent person, it seems crazy that they would want my parents' info. And also extremely unfair if they want to consider my parents' finances into this whole thing. (FWIW, they're definitely not wealthy, but also can a school really expect a 33 year old to have their parents be responsible for school funding?)

I have no idea what to do. I really don't want to write this school off, but I really don't feel like including my parents' info on the FAFSA is reasonable or honestly something I could even get them to do. Thoughts? Commiseration? Sigh.

Hey guys,

RC happens to be my worst section, by far. I am not seeing any improvement between practice tests in that area specifically. I am really stressed out about it. Any suggestions as to how to see improvement?

Can someone help me understand the following phrase within the stimulus?

"This willingness is even more revealing than is good-natured acquiescence in having others poke fun at one".

In other websites, I see many people making connections between hearing funny story about oneself and self-confidence (Hearing funny story about oneself -> Self-confidence). I don't understand how they make such connection.

Thank you in advance!

Hi guys-

For those of you that are studying for this test while still in school and also balancing a job, honestly what do you do when you are just feeling like you are up to your ears in things to do? I get so frustrated at the limited time that I have. At times I feel as if I cannot give the LSAT the time it needs and deserves sometimes because your GPA is forever and I would never want to potentially compromise that.. and with midterms going on for me right now, I am just feeling so overwhelmed :/

Thanks guys (3(/p)

I seem to be paralyzed when it comes to timed tests and am wondering if changing my approach might help. I have now taken 4 practice tests and scored roughly the same on all of them - a 154 and 3 152s. Now, my Blind Review scores are 162-166, so I know I can do much better, but seem to get tripped up by the time. In my job, I preach following the procedure untimed to reproduce it accurately and confidently, then speed comes with practice. I wonder if it would make sense here as well to go through the full test a few times untimed, but monitoring where I am at specific points, to get used to the process before diving right into timed PTs immediately after finishing the curriculum. How have others approached this? I'm scheduled to take the December test and want to make the best use of my time to maximize my potential. Thanks in advance.

When you register for the LSAT, having selected your region, the LSAC provides a list of testing centres along with dates and times. I know that things can change before the test, but are these times typically accurate?

For example, if I register for a test at location X and the date and time given is "02/10/2018, 2:00 PM", can I start preparing for this test safe in the knowledge I'll sit it in the afternoon? I don't want to prepare for my exam thinking I'll be taking it in the afternoon only to find out they moved it to a 9am a week before! :'(

Hey all,

Anyone wanna swap with me? I'm not doing anything for the next 4 hours so I got plenty of time to read :)

Comment below and I'll dm you :)!

Hi all!

I know the advice is to have a professional style email address for use in admissions. But what counts as professional? For many years I've used a hotmail account which is simply my first and last name @ hotmail.com

Is that suitable? Or should I be ditching hotmail after all these years?

Any December testers out there planning on signing up for February also? I'm debating this plan. Since we won't have scores until after the deadline for February sign ups, we have the option to register for Feb now and receive a full refund as long as we cancel within about a week after Dec scores are released. December will be my first take (I pushed back from both June and September knowing I wasn't ready), and I'm nervous about having only 1 shot for this cycle. At least if I take February, I could use a higher score then for scholarship negotiations, right? Anyone else planning on signing up for both of these? Is this a good plan? I guess it's low risk since I could cancel, but just coughing up more and more money along the way is tough. Sigh.

Hi everyone!

I’ve noticed that when I’m doing BR, I sometimes struggle trying to come up with an explanation for why an answer is the wrong answer (especially when I’m picking between the last two). It does get frustrating at times and gets me tempted just to check answers lol. Any advice on that? Thank you! ?

Hello everyone!

I am a foreign attorney and since I'm planning to live in the States, I want to have a J.D. My dream is to go to a Top 15 Law School, but since I don't know if I'll be able to get the score (My highest score was 164 this week, but I've been averaging 161 the past month), I have considered applying to both LLMs (in which LSAT is not required) and JDs. That way my chances of being admitted to a top 15 would increase. But lately, I've been having serious doubts and I would like to hear other opinions regarding the following options:

-Would it be better to have a Master's from a really good school like Harvard or Yale and then transfer to another school (not every school accepts LLM to JD transfers), or would it be better to be admitted to a top 25 school JD program, and then trying to transfer on the 2L to an even better school?

-Do you think that it would be counterproductive to apply to both the LLM and JD program within the same school? Let's take for example Columbia, which is my dream school. In case I don't get admitted to a JD program, I could still get admitted to the LLM. But I am afraid that the admissions council would think that I am just applying in a "volume" format, trying to send as many applications as I can or that they might say "Well he has a good JD profile, but he would definitely be a better fit to our LLM program".

Does anyone know someone that has applied to both programs?

Since I am planning to spend a lot of money on application fees (crying), I really want to make the correct decision. Moreover, the deadline for the LLM programs is December 15th, which means that I won't have my LSAT score by then.

Please feel free to comment and share your thoughts since I am really looking for help!

Hello,

Just wondering, is it too late to the February LSAT for fall applications. Most schools I have chosen, have deadlines starting in March. Thank you in advance for your feedback.

So I finally got my nerve up to do blind review on the September LSAT, aka PT 82.

I got a 179, after a pretty lax review.

I made at least 5 mind-numbingly obvious mistakes, including one that I definitely just mis-bubbled.

I want to punch a wall. I could have reached Everest!!!! Aaaaaaaah!

Trying to spin this into, "in december, I won't make dumb mistakes, and I'll crush it!" But it's gonna take a minute.

Sorry for ranting, hope maybe anybody else in the same/similar situation can take comfort in knowing you're not alone! Next time friends!!!

So since the September scores came out I've tried my very best to keep a positive outlook and mentality. I took a few timed sections and did fairly well (-2/-4 LR, -0 LG, -1 RC) but in the back of my head I can't shake the feeling of that just being a fluke. I feel like I'm somehow cheating myself and that those scores are not really representative of my ability. I justify it by looking at my September results (-13 LR, -0 LG, -7 RC).

I tend to be someone who likes to offer motivation and to be encouraging to others. A lot of the time I'm even able to internalize it myself. But lately that's just not happening.

I now feel like T-14 is not possible for me. As someone with a crap GPA and an LSAT that doesn't impress, I'm just not going to get into the schools I want to. I KNOW I am capable of being successful in law school. I KNOW I could handle a T-14 and their work load. I just feel extremely restricted by my past and have no way of expressing that to these schools in any meaningful manner.

While I understand that a 163 is not a score to laugh at, a 163 coupled with a 2.7 cumulative gpa pushes me really far down the ladder of schools who will consider me. Even with a compelling story (4 years in the Marine Corps, 70 credits of 4.0 after the Marine Corps) I feel there is nothing I can do to make up for my discretion when I was 18/19 other than a high LSAT.

I know no one likes to hear people complain. I know I'm not the only one in a situation like this. I know I need to suck it up and be positive. I just can't seem to flip that switch right now.

I am sorry for the long post. When I try to talk to people in my life about this all, they just don't understand. I'll try not to be too much of a negative Nancy in the community...I just need to get this off my chest.

If I choose to upgrade to the ultimate+ course will I have access to video explanations of all the PT's RC questions as well as LG questions? I hate only being able to see the explanations of the games. From the list of what the higher package says it sounds like it does but wanted to be absolutely sure before dropping another $400 bucks.

Hey All,

If my graduating GPA was a [] and I received summa cum laude at graduation, but my LSAC GPA is a [] (darn you high school college courses...and I also transferred from a university where my GPA was a bit lower), should I indicate summa cum laude on my resume? I'm having a hard time figuring out how to present my GPA in general, considering the drastic difference between my graduating GPA and my LSAC GPA...Should I indicate both? I was originally planning on leaving my GPA off, considering they have my transcripts, but 7Sage's admissions course recommends adding your GPA unless your GPA is horrendous.

Thanks.

Hi

Can anyone tell me why this question " the reasoning above is questionable because it fails to exclude the possibility that." is not "fails to include"? Doesn't "fails to exclude" imply that the reasoning included such idea, and by doing to, the logic fails?

I thought the reasoning was flawed, because the possibility was not considered in which case the question stem should read "fail to include".

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-2-question-18/

Hey everyone,

I know I posted something like this a few days after the LSAT scores were released but I've come to realize that at that point I didn't mean it. I'm not sure if this serves any particular purpose but hopefully someone who reads this finds themselves in a similar scenario and it looking for a comparative experience.

Just as some background for those of you who didn't see that previous post, I received a 165 on the September LSAT and was devastated. I had been PT'ing in the low 170's and seeing a 165 in that email was gut wrenching. After initially opening the email, my first instinct was to criticize the test and the perhaps undue worth that applications officers give it. I mistook that anger for fuel and claimed to have rededicated myself to studying. However, over the last few weeks I have done some LG, taken a PT which I got a 169 on, and reveled in my anger. Over that time, I have come to the realization that even if the LSAT is overvalued and there are issues with the test, it is what it is. I realized that I had practiced "willful ignorance" leading up to the September test. The margin of error between the 170's and 160's is so slim that I had been getting lucky on the questions that pushed my scores into the 170's. With that being the case: I need to get better at timing my RC, start filming my PT's for insight, get more consistent with LG in order to go -0 consistently, and hold myself to a higher standard on BR. Criticizing the test gets us nowhere, bettering my own skills will.

So for those of you who underperformed your expectations, take some time and face the hard truth. The score is what the score is. The LSAT is what the LSAT is. You can either chose to criticize circumstances, or work to change them for December. Below are some quotes that I've been reading over from my Bartlett's book the past few days and if you've gained nothing else from my ramblings, maybe these will make your attention worth it. Good luck to everyone and their studies.

“Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.” -Thomas Edison

“Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat." -F. Scott Fitzgerald

“If you fell down yesterday, stand up today.” -H. G. Wells

Has anyone had luck studying while working out - particularly doing cardio? I've tried drilling while on the treadmill but find it tough to write steadily. Any ideas/suggestions on other ways to be productive while at the gym?

I still don't understand how to do NA questions. I'm having a lot of trouble with this. I've watched the videos but for some reason it's still not clicking. Is there any advice or different approach that I can take for this type of question? Thank you!

Studying all day, everyday at this point. Been using Kaplan, Blueprint and 7Sage methods. Anyone in LA area?

Hi 7sage after a year away! I was going to apply last year but a few big things took me away from the process & I'm coming back for this year.

I'd love to swap PSs for a peer review with someone else returning after significant time away (>7 years.) I'm in my mid-30s and my PS is necessarily covering why do this now; I'm curious to know how you are handling it and also curious how you're efficiently summarizing your road to date.

Anybody? Let's do this!