New US News Rankings

Leah M B

Spivey got the new US News Rankings! Officially out next week, but here's the scoop:

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2020-usnwr-rankings-2019-release/

KeepCalm

NICE! Thank you @"Leah M B" !

Princess

Wow! I don't know why, but I always thought Virginia was lower than that and Michigan was higher. A bit surprised now that I actually sat down and looked at the list. Which school would have better chances at Big Law and clerkships?

eRetaker

@Princess I think umich and uva's outcomes are similar enough that it becomes a matter or personal preference. UVA does better in the south and UMich places better in Midwest.

10000019

@eRetaker said:
@Princess I think umich and uva's outcomes are similar enough that it becomes a matter or personal preference. UVA does better in the south and UMich places better in Midwest.

UVA's top three placement locations are New York, DC, and then California.

eRetaker

@10000019 said:

@eRetaker said:
@Princess I think umich and uva's outcomes are similar enough that it becomes a matter or personal preference. UVA does better in the south and UMich places better in Midwest.

UVA's top three placement locations are New York, DC, and then California.

That's pretty interesting. I am definitely quite surprised that Virginia itself isn't the top placement. Do you think it's self-selection?

stevencamendola

What happened twice at PennState?

PutABirdOnIt

Nice. ATL has (+/-)s for those that have moved spots: https://abovethelaw.com/2019/03/leaked-2020-u-s-news-law-school-rankings/

Am I remembering incorrectly, or did University of Washington used to be in the top 20s years ago? Now it's barely top 50.

Edit: And Lewis and Clark got bumped out of top 100. Eesh, not great for NW schools.

Leah M B

@stevencamendola Since these are unofficial at the moment, there seems to be some confusion on a few schools, including Penn State and Rutgers. Spivey is clarifying things as information is available though, and the official rankings will be released on the 12th, which may clear up some issues.

@PutABirdOnIt Yeah, UW was 32 last year. Drop to 44 is painful. I think it may have been upper 20s sometime in just the last few years. Not sure what's up, but to be honest their employment numbers have never been all that impressive to me. Still the best school in the NW for sure, but definitely a bummer this year.

stevencamendola

UW dinged me really quickly. I wasn't sure why when I've got in a couple of higher ranked schools. Oh well.

10000019

@eRetaker said:

@10000019 said:

@eRetaker said:
@Princess I think umich and uva's outcomes are similar enough that it becomes a matter or personal preference. UVA does better in the south and UMich places better in Midwest.

UVA's top three placement locations are New York, DC, and then California.

That's pretty interesting. I am definitely quite surprised that Virginia itself isn't the top placement. Do you think it's self-selection?

I think it boils down to two things.
(1) Virginia isn't a major market.
(2) UVA grads would rather work in other states.

Regis_Phalange63

@stevencamendola said:
UW dinged me really quickly. I wasn't sure why when I've got in a couple of higher ranked schools. Oh well.

Perhaps they thought you would't commit to attending their school even if you were admitted?

tekken1225

Aw man, they took it down. Bummer.

FixedDice

@Regis_Phalange63 said:

@stevencamendola said:
UW dinged me really quickly. I wasn't sure why when I've got in a couple of higher ranked schools. Oh well.

Perhaps they thought you would't commit to attending their school even if you were admitted?

I would think that's the case.

LCMama2017

@tekken1225 said:
Aw man, they took it down. Bummer.

Its still here:

https://abovethelaw.com/2019/03/leaked-2020-u-s-news-law-school-rankings/