I reposted this comment of mine from @blah170blah 's great thread to those who are disappointed. I thought my story would help some of you realize you're not alone:
- Very first PT 149
- Studied my but off and eventually PTed in the 170s
- Planned for a 170 plus!
But...
- Oct 14 LSAT 162 (85th Pctl)
- Dec 14 LSAT 165 (91st Pctl)
- June 15 LSAT 173 (99th Pctl)!
There are two kinds of people in this world - those that fall and those that get back up. I know there are people on this board who are disappointed right now. I know you'll get back up.
Don't get me wrong, you can have time to be down. I hit the nachos and in-n-out pretty hard the first couple days after getting my first test score. But then I hit the weights and then I hit the books and 7Sage material. I know you all have it in you too.
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First test after not much study: 165
Second test, after massive amount of study: 170 (had been pt'ing at 178)
Third test, October 2015: 180!!!!!
Hear, hear!
We might! I think that's @jy-ping 's goal, seeing as he said Oct 2015. (...Or is he from the future?!)
I'm bumping this for any students that got their scores recently and were disappointed. Delays are not denials - Get Back Up!
Well said. We've all been in that position before: Scored low on diagnostic --> Ignored it --> Scored better, but not where we wanted to be post-course --> Freaked out --> Had early-life crisis and purchased a $150k sports car.
Okay, maybe not the last one
Don't worry ladies and get's, set-backs are meant to be overcome.
"I also had an eye exam and realized my prescription was off. Correcting that really helped and I'd recommend it to anyone to be safe."
Interesting that you mention this because I was thinking about creating a topic about this. I have had 20/10 vision my whole life and have always had a lot of excellent vision hubris, which has finally caught up to me. During my exit physicals from the Army I had to see an eye doctor who dilated my pupils and tested my vision. He said I am farsighted, down to 20/30 and 20/40 in my left and right eyes, and that I have astigmatism in both eyes. So he told me to go get some prescription glasses. It totally blew my mind and after going home and thinking about it I started to notice these issues more and more as I would read for school and the LSAT and could feel more of the strain in my eyes. I've got an appointment next week to finally get glasses. After initially being horrified, I'm hoping now that they make reading even easier and less tiring and that I'll be able to perform better. Definitely recommend it to anyone that has any similar issues.
Well said, I appreciate the candor, I'm sure it will be of great help to many who need that motivation following this past administration. Good luck with your apps!
Just wanted to bump this for June Takers
I always love coming back stories and this is the best story ever on the 7sage!
@licknee10505
Quick question: You mentioned that you were PTing in the 170s, but you scored a 162 on your first exam. Is there a reason why your score was way below your PT average? I know JY says to average the 3 most recent exams and your score will be within three points. Did you misread the rules of a game? Were you distracted by other test-takers? Thanks in advance.
Congrats!! Could you share you study methods with us?
> @licknee10505 said:
> I'm bumping this for any students that got their scores recently and were disappointed. Delays are not denials - Get Back Up!
I just read this after watching your BR webinar - will be on my third take - you are an inspiration~ I hope law school is treating you well!
@licknee10505 So before your 165 second take you were averaging high 160s with a few low 170s? That's basically me exactly, and my gut tells me confidence on test day could be a big factor in ward off the test day penalty
Thanks! Seeing your specific test scores is actually really encouraging. I’m going into Take 3 with very similar numbers!
@alexandergreene93842
Great question. Before my first LSAT I was scoring between high 160s and low 170s. So it should have been higher....
Yes, I was shocked. With that one, there was actually a huge noise disturbance outside and I think it contributed to my drop in score. LSAC put something on file to explain, but it was still well below my range.
@7sagestudentservices
OH I GET IT.
Most excellent gif.
Teach us your ways.
And @7sagestudentservices looks like we have another Sage on our hands!
@msami1010493 and @jy-ping - by the time I finished my 2nd lsate take I had done the bulk of prepping (over 40 PTs and Blind Review in addition to the 7Sage course), so I had the foundation.
So I focused on Quality prep and working on weakenesses. For this test I did about 10-12 pts spaced out with review. Yes some of them were retakes so I knew my scores were a bit inflated. I focused more on the work than the numbers. When I'd PT at 177 or 178 I knew it might be inflated but I was in good shape to break 170
I also had an eye exam and realized my prescription was off. Correcting that really helped and I'd recommend it to anyone to be safe.
Another key thing I did was tutor the LSAT. I already tutor the SAT and my 165 score was adequate with one company for me to tutor an LSAT student. By teaching LSAT concepts to a student biweekly it forced me to really understand key concepts. I really recommend it if you can. Seriously anyone scoring in the 160s may be able to teach for a company and it really helps.
Or help people on this board - it's good to reenforce things for you too.
Hope this helps!
Thank you for this!
Thanks, I needed this. I will be taking it for my 3rd and final time in October. As @msami1010493 stated, was there anything you did differently for your final run? I imagine the lack of "fresh" material played a factor.
Good stuff man!
Very inspiring! Thanks @licknee10505
Nice, dude! Always a great story to read.
I know some people aren't happy with their scores, so I decided to bump this thread. Hope it helps!
thanks @megsvyas473
@lschoolgo550 Honest Answer: I used two of the other major and well regarded courses and books. BUT 7Sage is what made a difference.
The 7Sage Memory Method was key to my improvement on Logic Games.
Buying the 7sage course helped me master the fundamentals and route out blind spots.
Blind Review was also immensely helpful.
I will add that the LSAT Trainer book was very helpful for Reading Comp - and especially Reading Comp Question types which are often underestimated.