Hello lovely 7Sagers!
Is there a September 2016 BR group? If there isn't, when might one be getting started?
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Hello lovely 7Sagers!
Is there a September 2016 BR group? If there isn't, when might one be getting started?
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I think @jhaldy10325 needs a username change to CAN Get Right! :P
Sounds good, guys :) @43847 and/or I can help with administration once you get closer to start. Another note--consider starting in April and building in some breaks (July 4th, Memorial Day, etc)
This, a thousand times this. This is exactly what I have realized as well. I think a big part of it is if you don't know anyone in "real life" that is also going through the experience of preparing to write the LSAT, they don't truly understand what you are going through. Sure, they may think you are studying to write an exam, but they don't understand that what you are preparing to face is like something out of David vs. Goliath. Connecting with people who are going through the same experience, who truly understand where you deepest struggles and worries are coming from, it makes the battle with discouragement a lot more manageable.
To throw in an example, I took the LSAT (way under-prepared) for the first time last October. I set my goal at 160-165. I wrote a 150. Although I was expecting a bad result, I got pretty depressed because I was kicking myself for not preparing properly and wasting a precious attempt before I was even close to being ready to write it. My parents, two of my biggest supporters, simply didn't get it. They congratulated me on getting so close to my goal, and that I only needed a few more points. I tried to explain to them that getting my score to 160+ would require months more of hard work, and that 150 really isn't that close to my goal at all. I still don't think they understand, really. It's because of the mental toll that preparation takes on you. I've read before that to do well on the LSAT, you're going to have to literally live in LSAT world until you overcome it, but I didn't believe it until I realized the gap in understanding between "outsiders" and "LSATers".
This can be discouraging, but it’s actually really great. It goes a lot slower than everyone thought it would- for everyone who is doing it right. It is always tempting to force your prep into your timeline, but of course, it is your timeline that must adjust to your prep. So keep at it, and be happy knowing that by letting it take as long as it takes; you’ve fulfilled one of many necessary conditions of proper LSAT prep.
Here's an alternate plan for the order of PTs! Let me know your thoughts please :)
My thoughts for this schedule are based on others' recommendations to mix up the PTs.
See: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion#/discussion/6965
https://classic.7sage.com/discussion#/discussion/3050
Date Day of Week Time PrepTest
5/2/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 37
5/5/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 41
5/9/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 45
5/12/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 49
5/16/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 53
5/19/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 57
5/23/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 61
5/26/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 65
5/30/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 69
6/2/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 73
6/6/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 38
6/9/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 42
6/13/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 46
6/16/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 50
6/20/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 54
6/23/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 58
6/27/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 62
6/30/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 66
7/4/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 70
7/7/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 39
7/11/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 43
7/14/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 47
7/18/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 51
7/21/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 55
7/25/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 59
7/28/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 63
8/1/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 67
8/4/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 71
8/8/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 40
8/11/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 44
8/15/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 48
8/18/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 52
8/22/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 56
8/25/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 60
8/29/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 64
9/1/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 68
9/5/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 72
9/8/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 74
9/12/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 75
9/15/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 76
9/19/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 77
9/22/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST Pep Rally
9/24/2016 SATURDAY 8:30 AM REAL LSAT
I prefer a lot of drinking, Also some soul searching - Approach personally:P
After a lot of soul searching. Also some drinking. Gone ahead and add me in this thang.
Thanks @keanexavier344 , managing discouragement is a big part of this process. A really big part of it for me has been staying active on here. I’ve come to realize that we’re all experiencing the same things. Knowing that everyone has those low moments, hits those plateaus, and experiences reversals has been essential to me.
Here's a tentative schedule I made! :) Let me know any and all thoughts!
I figured Mondays would be best for a Saturday PT, Sunday self-BR, Monday Group BR. Tuesday PT, Wednesday self-BR, Thursday Group BR. I think that makes sense. I figure we just start at the beginning and throw in the Super Preps, unless any of you have other suggestions.
I did 5:30 PST/8:30 EST to try to find some middle ground between West Coast folk that get off at 5 (myself included) and East Coast folk that need sleep.
Please do let me know any thoughts you have!
Date Day of Week Time PrepTest
5/2/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 37
5/5/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 38
5/9/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 39
5/12/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 40
5/16/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 41
5/19/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 42
5/23/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 43
5/26/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 44
5/30/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 45
6/2/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 46
6/6/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 47
6/9/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 48
6/13/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 49
6/16/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 50
6/20/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 51
6/23/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 52
6/27/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 53
6/30/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 54
7/4/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 55
7/7/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 56
7/11/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 57
7/14/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 58
7/18/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 59
7/21/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 60
7/25/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 61
7/28/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 62
8/1/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 63
8/4/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 64
8/8/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 65
8/11/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 66
8/15/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 67
8/18/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 68
8/22/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 69
8/25/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 70
8/29/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 71
9/1/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 72
9/5/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 73
9/8/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 74
9/12/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 75
9/15/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 76
9/19/2016 Monday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST 77
9/22/2016 Thursday 5:30 PST/8:30 EST Pep Rally
9/24/2016 SATURDAY 8:30 AM REAL LSAT
@landyzmao67 , you should wait until finishing the curriculum before taking any PTs at all. PTs are where you hone and fine tune the skills from the curriculum, so if you're taking PTs before you've learned and developed these skills, you are losing a lot of value on those PTs.
BTW, whatever karma is, I have 180 of it. #Destiny for September? hahaha
Hi. So I guess I will be taking in September. Is the BR group still meeting? I have never worked with a BR group.
@rachel649 This is something I, unfortunately, can attest to from lots of experience. Ultimately, what should determine if you test or not is if you feel ready. I took my first test knowing I was not ready. I justified it by telling myself that even if I didn't get the score I wanted it would still be good experience and would make the next test less stressful since I would have been there before. What happened in reality was that I just wasted a test. If anything, my next test was even more stressful because I was worried that I would only have one chance left if I screwed it up this time. Which is, of course, exactly what happened. In my opinion, your first attempt is as low a stress level as you will get. So make sure you make it count and don't waste it by going in there before you're ready.
Hey @twssmith644 , we're working on finalizing the schedule now and should be able to release something finalized soon. Will make sure to tag you so you won't miss it. Thanks for following up, I can't wait to get started!
Amen y'all. @jhaldy10325
I’m not sure how long to expect the session to last, but of course, everyone is free to come and go as they need. And yes, you definitely want to BR on your own first. It is agonizing to not check your score ASAP, so I suspect a lot of people will give in. For me, I’m going to try not to because BRing isn’t really effective when you know the answer. I would encourage everyone not to score, but if you do, you just can’t say things like, “No guys, I KNOW it’s E.” The June group has been scoring everything at the end as a group, so I suspect we will continue that practice.
@cocozhang9950157 Yes and no. So, the curriculum does list the PTs, but most people consider that a separate study phase, distinct from the "core” curriculum which includes the lessons and strategies and everything. So, no, there is no inherent conflict with this group; you would just follow the group’s schedule rather than the schedule laid out in the curriculum.
However, if you are just starting the curriculum, it is going to be really difficult for you to adequately prepare for the September LSAT. One of the most common and most fatal mistakes LSAT students make is to underestimate the difficulty of this test. It is an absolute monster. I made that mistake and I paid for it dearly. The people who perform best, who actually achieve their target scores, are the people who show this test the respect it demands. Mastering the curriculum before PTing is absolutely essential. And mastery of the curriculum takes a long, long time- I’d guess somewhere in the neighborhood of six months is probably close to typical; and, of course, that is followed by frequent returns throughout the PT/BR phase.
You’ve made a great decision to join 7Sage. I’ve used a lot of study programs and 7Sage is far and away the best. So make the most of it and give it the time it needs. It’s easy to get a test date in mind and aim your study schedule at it, but no one does themselves any favors by doing that. Here’s what you do if you want to reach your target score: Begin by, however long it takes, mastering the core curriculum. Then go through a few PT/BRs and see if you’re in the ballpark. If you’re not, you didn’t master the curriculum and you’ve got to go back. If you are, then you can really move into the PT/BR phase and start thinking about a test date.
I hope this doesn’t come across as discouraging. This test is totally conquerable. But if you want to do it, you’ve got to do it right. I’ve made every mistake in the book. One of the very first lessons is about the most common LSAT mistakes, and it reads like my personal LSAT resume. I’ve been there. Do this thing right and destroy this test. And welcome to 7Sage!
@jhaldy10325 Thanks... I am a little bit confused in terms of how this fits with the course though. I was checking the study schedule of the study packages, and it appears that the schedule includes all the PT tests...Does that conflict with this BR group?
:)
@aleun62887 they typically go longer, but everyone is free to get there as late as they like and leave as early as they need.
Will get y'all on the list!
I would like to join. Will be preparing for PT 55 on Monday night. Thanks
Please add me to the group! Thanks!!
Can I join? Thanks!
May I join? :)