Yup. I think we all get discouraged and frustrated when we don't see a continual line of progress upward in points. The LSAT is tough, and man, there have been times when I have felt like giving up.
But we all must go on.
I can imagine, as everyone else, who gets to the point...whether 4-12 months from now, after we have taken the LSAT, or multiple tests, and we get the dream goal score. I may say to myself
"I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith," 2 Timothy 4:7
We must keep faith in ourselves that we will make it there. We are going to suffer setbacks, bad PT scores, and frustration over many Drill questions, but in the end, we are going to get to that finish line. If we persevere through our studies and put the time in, we are going to be just fine.
@OmarAbuaita Thanks man. I needed this. Transitioning into a different career path and the everyday exercises I partake in has been a difficult process. However I keep going
These videos are really helpful - I'm not aiming for quite as high a score (although obviously that would be nice!) but the message around not giving up, and having those periods of setbacks is the main takeaway.
I'm slightly older (mid/late 30s) and would find it helpful to also have a video or two from people coming back into study a little further from undergrad days.
I felt this. I am now studying again after a couple months hiatus. this video really helped me because she has my goal score and she didn't give up. I want to embody this into january.
oh man, her summer where she did not study was me from march to august of this year. I simply became so discouraged. it feels really good to just not be alone in that, finally.
i watched this last night and ironically enough, im now at the part of the story where i want to give up and i need support to push through this...... so here goes nothing :-:
i graduated from undergrad in may and early in my last semester, i signed myself up for the june lsat thinking that i would have time to study before then (i was very wrong). i didnt start studying until the week of the june lsat, but i was also balancing starting my first full-time job (i started at a law firm!), so i really didnt do much other than i took a PT every day leading up to the test. on the june lsat, i scored right on par with what i was getting on my PTs, so i was happy but knew i had a long way to go to get where i wanted to. for context, my first ever PT was a 157 which i was really happy with, but i really cant afford law school and have made a pact with myself that i'll only go if i can get a good scholarship at a school that feels like a good fit, so i'm trying to do the absolute best that i can. i signed myself up for the august lsat thinking that i could probably do well enough to get at least in the high 160s, which i know sounds insane, but after these past 2 months of studying with 7sage, i'm right about there. HOWEVER... this is the part where i give up. somewhere between working my new full time job and spending all of my free time studying and then this week getting the flu... i paid for and signed up for the august lsat, but i forgot to schedule the date. and its too late now. So i cant take it. i know its my fault. my undergrad email is the one connected to my lsac account so i didnt get the email reminders... have mercy on me ! im now out $250 and the earliest lsat i can sign up for now is the october one... which i really (really) cant afford and which throws me so far off my game. and im trying to be happy that this gives me more time to study, but i am so devastated. i wanted to submit my application on the first day that apps opened up at my dream school (its a t14) to try to get a full ride, the only way i can afford it. and now it just feels like i screwed it all up for myself. does anyone have any words of motivation ? :,( now every time i think about studying i just feel like a failure. i got so lost in how busy and stressed i was that i messed this part up so bad and made a hard situation even worse. i just feel like i stacked the odds up against myself so much higher than they already were. i didnt realize that i wanted to do law until my last year of undergrad so i already feel like im behind and trying to catch up, and this just dealt the toughest blow.
@leburger my motivation to you is look at this an not a mistake but as a way of getting better than your 160's score. i thought i could do the same and just get a good score to be able to go to law school. im not in the same situation as you as i took a pt two weeks ago and i got a 134. i didnt even finish and i had to guess and here i thought i was doin great but my motivational advice to you would be to get back out there. the prep youve done still counts most people wouldve quit but you didnt. reschedule as soon as you can even if its a few months away. this wasnt the unicerse telling you youre done it was giving you a bonus round to level u your score so that you can get a scholarship. applying early will get you a headstart when applications start opening up. you got this
@leburger It sounds like the biggest driving factor for you is the application cycle. You wanted to apply early, get scholarship $, and get into a t-14. Those are good goals I won't lie, but you shouldn't beat yourself up. Worst comes to worst, you apply the following cycle. The lsat is hard, becoming an attorney is hard, this whole road is hard. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your drive and desire. What happened to you was a setback, but are you going to let that setback really define you? Think of your future. If you give up now, there may be a point in which you regret not going to law school. Do you want to live with regret? Do you want to live with the fact you gave up because of x, y and z? I don't know you, and you don't know me but I guarantee you thousands of people have been in your shoes before or in similar situations. Think of all the generations before us, and all of the ones to come. More often than not people think about quitting. Do not let it get the best of you. You can never be behind in your own life and when you come to terms with that, you will succeed. You're going to get older no matter what and realistically it is: do you want to be x years old with a JD and practicing law or just x years old? Do not worry about time, do not stress about being or feeling behind. You might be out $250, but what if that day god saved you from an accident. Remember, things happen for a reason and when they happen, all you can do is move on and accept them.
#feedback I really enjoy these motivational videos, please add more at the end of each (or every other) module. And although a lot of the comments did not find it as motivating to see someone who was already scoring really high improve even more, what I liked most about this video is the struggle. We can all relate to putting in so much effort and then feeling devastated when the results we want aren't there, so I really liked how in the video, Lauren, does not gloss over this. I think it's really motivating to see that everyone struggles, even those at the top, and to hear how even though it may feel impossible, with time and patience, it can be possible.
I get the point of this video, but she got a 171 on her first test?! It'd be wayyyyy more helpful to get an interview from someone who got a around a 140, gave up, then killed it once they got back into it.
@timezonereaper She said she got a 171 on her second test! She didn't mention the score of her first test, I'm assuming so as not to offend anyone or discourage anyone who might have seen that as a 'good score'
@timezonereaper Her first LSAT she underperformed. The 171 was her second time taking the LSAT. She said in the beginning her diagnostic was around a 151.
Seeing some comments about not finding this super motivational and thought I'd share my journey so far to hopefully bring a little more hope to you guys (and myself).
My diagnostic was 132, two years ago. I studied for 2 months on my own without 7sage, took the LSAT and got a 152. Life happened, I took a break from studying completely, and am back to studying with one month under my belt with 7sage. Took a PT after finishing the foundations lessons and got a 156.
The fact that I not only retained my knowledge from years ago but also improved after only getting started is motivating me to reach for another big score jump! We all got this! The comeback is always greater than the setback.
Question: should I be consistently taking PTs at this point? I thought the course program would prompt me when it was time to start incorporating them. I have taken them in the past, but not since starting the course.
My opinion, which has been informed by my 2L friend at Columbia who did 7sage, is that I should get through the core curriculum and begin PTing after, as the schedule suggests. That's because I won't have all the skills to get through a whole PT yet, maybe some of it, but its almost a waste of time, since they are so long. It's up to you though! If you have enough study time to get through the suggested modules AND do a PT, then it certainly wouldn't hurt.
No doubt! What kind of motivation video is this? I did not find it motivational at all. All I seen was someone that was already really good and just not okay with her score... I did not see a motivation.
Motivational videos of people studying for over a year are not motivating me lol. I would love to see some motivational videos of people doing it in 6 months or less, which seems more realistic to most people's lives and plans.
completing it under 6 months is totally doable- but it's something that comes naturally out of you, or something that happens without you putting will power or effort into. Or joining a study group, minor, course, etc. if it hasn't happened for you yet and youre studying on own time, that just means your study method is different and that's ok too. studying time and approach is a very personal thing you can't compare to others. had a teacher tell me all u need is 3 months to study- yeah not for me. def. did not let that discourage me lol.
Needed this! Currently improving in some areas and struggling in other areas of LR. It really is discouraging when improvement is not happening when you put so much work into the test!
What about scoring so well on pts, then scoring horrible on actual lsat. I was scoring 160s then only scored a 143.now im trying 7sage hoping this can get me to atleast a 155 to get into my dream school. any recs
If you're scoring 160s on your PTs then you can do it on the actual test! Keep your mindset positive, if you can did it once you can do it again. You got this.
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I restarted fundamentals because I was not understanding none of it, but if restarting helps me achieve my goal score, let's go!
is the video private for anyone else
Don't watch videos like this in Dark Mode, it gives you an inverted color jump scare
@MLugo1998 omg sooo true, it was wild seeing that loool
Yup. I think we all get discouraged and frustrated when we don't see a continual line of progress upward in points. The LSAT is tough, and man, there have been times when I have felt like giving up.
But we all must go on.
I can imagine, as everyone else, who gets to the point...whether 4-12 months from now, after we have taken the LSAT, or multiple tests, and we get the dream goal score. I may say to myself
We must keep faith in ourselves that we will make it there. We are going to suffer setbacks, bad PT scores, and frustration over many Drill questions, but in the end, we are going to get to that finish line. If we persevere through our studies and put the time in, we are going to be just fine.
@OmarAbuaita Thanks man. I needed this. Transitioning into a different career path and the everyday exercises I partake in has been a difficult process. However I keep going
@OmarAbuaita
Literally needed this and will be holding onto this scripture as well.
Go lauren
These videos are really helpful - I'm not aiming for quite as high a score (although obviously that would be nice!) but the message around not giving up, and having those periods of setbacks is the main takeaway.
I'm slightly older (mid/late 30s) and would find it helpful to also have a video or two from people coming back into study a little further from undergrad days.
I felt this. I am now studying again after a couple months hiatus. this video really helped me because she has my goal score and she didn't give up. I want to embody this into january.
oh man, her summer where she did not study was me from march to august of this year. I simply became so discouraged. it feels really good to just not be alone in that, finally.
i watched this last night and ironically enough, im now at the part of the story where i want to give up and i need support to push through this...... so here goes nothing :-:
i graduated from undergrad in may and early in my last semester, i signed myself up for the june lsat thinking that i would have time to study before then (i was very wrong). i didnt start studying until the week of the june lsat, but i was also balancing starting my first full-time job (i started at a law firm!), so i really didnt do much other than i took a PT every day leading up to the test. on the june lsat, i scored right on par with what i was getting on my PTs, so i was happy but knew i had a long way to go to get where i wanted to. for context, my first ever PT was a 157 which i was really happy with, but i really cant afford law school and have made a pact with myself that i'll only go if i can get a good scholarship at a school that feels like a good fit, so i'm trying to do the absolute best that i can. i signed myself up for the august lsat thinking that i could probably do well enough to get at least in the high 160s, which i know sounds insane, but after these past 2 months of studying with 7sage, i'm right about there. HOWEVER... this is the part where i give up. somewhere between working my new full time job and spending all of my free time studying and then this week getting the flu... i paid for and signed up for the august lsat, but i forgot to schedule the date. and its too late now. So i cant take it. i know its my fault. my undergrad email is the one connected to my lsac account so i didnt get the email reminders... have mercy on me ! im now out $250 and the earliest lsat i can sign up for now is the october one... which i really (really) cant afford and which throws me so far off my game. and im trying to be happy that this gives me more time to study, but i am so devastated. i wanted to submit my application on the first day that apps opened up at my dream school (its a t14) to try to get a full ride, the only way i can afford it. and now it just feels like i screwed it all up for myself. does anyone have any words of motivation ? :,( now every time i think about studying i just feel like a failure. i got so lost in how busy and stressed i was that i messed this part up so bad and made a hard situation even worse. i just feel like i stacked the odds up against myself so much higher than they already were. i didnt realize that i wanted to do law until my last year of undergrad so i already feel like im behind and trying to catch up, and this just dealt the toughest blow.
@leburger my motivation to you is look at this an not a mistake but as a way of getting better than your 160's score. i thought i could do the same and just get a good score to be able to go to law school. im not in the same situation as you as i took a pt two weeks ago and i got a 134. i didnt even finish and i had to guess and here i thought i was doin great but my motivational advice to you would be to get back out there. the prep youve done still counts most people wouldve quit but you didnt. reschedule as soon as you can even if its a few months away. this wasnt the unicerse telling you youre done it was giving you a bonus round to level u your score so that you can get a scholarship. applying early will get you a headstart when applications start opening up. you got this
@leburger It sounds like the biggest driving factor for you is the application cycle. You wanted to apply early, get scholarship $, and get into a t-14. Those are good goals I won't lie, but you shouldn't beat yourself up. Worst comes to worst, you apply the following cycle. The lsat is hard, becoming an attorney is hard, this whole road is hard. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your drive and desire. What happened to you was a setback, but are you going to let that setback really define you? Think of your future. If you give up now, there may be a point in which you regret not going to law school. Do you want to live with regret? Do you want to live with the fact you gave up because of x, y and z? I don't know you, and you don't know me but I guarantee you thousands of people have been in your shoes before or in similar situations. Think of all the generations before us, and all of the ones to come. More often than not people think about quitting. Do not let it get the best of you. You can never be behind in your own life and when you come to terms with that, you will succeed. You're going to get older no matter what and realistically it is: do you want to be x years old with a JD and practicing law or just x years old? Do not worry about time, do not stress about being or feeling behind. You might be out $250, but what if that day god saved you from an accident. Remember, things happen for a reason and when they happen, all you can do is move on and accept them.
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#feedback I really enjoy these motivational videos, please add more at the end of each (or every other) module. And although a lot of the comments did not find it as motivating to see someone who was already scoring really high improve even more, what I liked most about this video is the struggle. We can all relate to putting in so much effort and then feeling devastated when the results we want aren't there, so I really liked how in the video, Lauren, does not gloss over this. I think it's really motivating to see that everyone struggles, even those at the top, and to hear how even though it may feel impossible, with time and patience, it can be possible.
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I get the point of this video, but she got a 171 on her first test?! It'd be wayyyyy more helpful to get an interview from someone who got a around a 140, gave up, then killed it once they got back into it.
@timezonereaper She said she got a 171 on her second test! She didn't mention the score of her first test, I'm assuming so as not to offend anyone or discourage anyone who might have seen that as a 'good score'
@laurennhopee I wasn't referring to the diagnostic test. First real test was a 171
@timezonereaper Her first LSAT she underperformed. The 171 was her second time taking the LSAT. She said in the beginning her diagnostic was around a 151.
Seeing some comments about not finding this super motivational and thought I'd share my journey so far to hopefully bring a little more hope to you guys (and myself).
My diagnostic was 132, two years ago. I studied for 2 months on my own without 7sage, took the LSAT and got a 152. Life happened, I took a break from studying completely, and am back to studying with one month under my belt with 7sage. Took a PT after finishing the foundations lessons and got a 156.
The fact that I not only retained my knowledge from years ago but also improved after only getting started is motivating me to reach for another big score jump! We all got this! The comeback is always greater than the setback.
Question: should I be consistently taking PTs at this point? I thought the course program would prompt me when it was time to start incorporating them. I have taken them in the past, but not since starting the course.
If it helps, I'm not yet. Part of the reason is because I want to save the "clean" questions/exams for when they'll be most helpful, when I know more.
My opinion, which has been informed by my 2L friend at Columbia who did 7sage, is that I should get through the core curriculum and begin PTing after, as the schedule suggests. That's because I won't have all the skills to get through a whole PT yet, maybe some of it, but its almost a waste of time, since they are so long. It's up to you though! If you have enough study time to get through the suggested modules AND do a PT, then it certainly wouldn't hurt.
My cats name is Luna I'm taking this as a sign I'll be going to Georgetown as well lol
Me getting a 141 the first 2 times on the LSAT watching her be upset about being in the 160's
👁️👄👁️
me with my 135 diagnostic
No doubt! What kind of motivation video is this? I did not find it motivational at all. All I seen was someone that was already really good and just not okay with her score... I did not see a motivation.
preach
Mood
I felt this so hard in my soul omfg
foreal though lol.
HAHHAHAHAHA
LOL
right?
i scored the same score twice :- 160 after pt in the mid to high 160s every single time. please june 2025 better be my time
Do you plan on going to school this fall?
Motivational videos of people studying for over a year are not motivating me lol. I would love to see some motivational videos of people doing it in 6 months or less, which seems more realistic to most people's lives and plans.
completing it under 6 months is totally doable- but it's something that comes naturally out of you, or something that happens without you putting will power or effort into. Or joining a study group, minor, course, etc. if it hasn't happened for you yet and youre studying on own time, that just means your study method is different and that's ok too. studying time and approach is a very personal thing you can't compare to others. had a teacher tell me all u need is 3 months to study- yeah not for me. def. did not let that discourage me lol.
My case now. hoping to find others who have made it under these conditions.
you'll do amazing trust the process.
Thank you. You will too. Our plans have already actualized in some dimension
Needed this! Currently improving in some areas and struggling in other areas of LR. It really is discouraging when improvement is not happening when you put so much work into the test!
Speaking of Georgetown, why do the people on the videos look like they are from the Exorcist?
What about scoring so well on pts, then scoring horrible on actual lsat. I was scoring 160s then only scored a 143.now im trying 7sage hoping this can get me to atleast a 155 to get into my dream school. any recs
If you're scoring 160s on your PTs then you can do it on the actual test! Keep your mindset positive, if you can did it once you can do it again. You got this.
Hang in there Sir! The more you practice the better you'll get!
Lets do this! I feel motivated.
I love these motivation breaks!
Congrats to Lauren & Luna!