Ugh. I chose C which I feel stupid for after the explanation. In my head, I thought we could safely assume that copyright laws can affect a work's ability to be published -- hence ruining its original intent to circulate ideas. If you can't get something published because your work was copyrighted, how is your work going to be circulated? That was my logic.
@LSATDemon From my own reasoning, I would say that it's because while some authors are okay with their works being shared publicly without a copyright or financial reward, we aren't speaking about them. We are specifically talking about the authors who do expect a financial reward, since that was the original purpose of copyrighting (at least according to the passage). So, if the author is dead, but the published work is still copyrighted, the author obviously isn't getting financial compensation, but maybe something like their estate or their children is getting compensated financially.
@LSATDemon Well, we are trying to prove that copyright sometimes go beyond its sole purpose, which means it do more than encourage author to circulate their works through financial reasons. B stated that some authors do that without financial reason doesn't prove that copyright "go beyond" encouraging idea circulation.
What do you mean when you state: "The support in MSS questionsflows in the opposite direction, from the stimulus into the answer. Strengthen questions have support flow from the answer into the stimulus."
@KristoferMuhr I think it's like the stimulus is providing support in MSS questions to some claim in the answer choices but for a strengthen question the answer choice will provide more support for the stimulus. It's a question of which one (the stim or the answer) is bolstering the other one.
@DanielleBucko Thank you for the clarification. As I trenched through the next few lessons, it became a lot clearer that is what they are going for. Go bucs!
I felt that this entire answer was supported by the term "beyond". without that I dont think E would work. It is interesting bc I know that in the real world E is the right answer but I had a hard time find the evidence as such in the question stem (except for the word Beyond)
I'm a bit confused by what question types this section is dealing with? Just questions that are non-causal? What skill should I be practicing here? I've just been thinking about which AC would be most reasonable.
Hey Shootergang_Chloe, I think you are adding additional context that is irrelevant to the stimulus at hand, the stimulus says that a copyright is a government supported monopoly and continues to give reason as to why the government would support such a monopoly. The intentions of the author or holder of the copyright is largely irrelevant. Hope that helps.
So a way that I approached this question that may help other people from getting baited by B is this: the stimulus tells us that the SOLE purpose of copyright is to only encourage authors from getting money right and we are in charge of showing something that goes beyond the scope, beyond the intention of what it was originally supposed to be. For example (and please spare biases and give some grace): Cars were originally intended to go from point A to point B faster. Some people use cars for different reasons now: to run people over, to use it as an income source, go from point A to point B or to simply collect as an enthusiast. So if we were charged showing how the car has gone farther than the original purpose it was created for, then the reasons I listed would be examples. Same way here on the question, what are ways that copyright has gone beyond its original purpose. The fact that they last after someone's death has little bearing on financial gain for the individual because well they're dead who cares about money when you're dead and it was not in the original purpose listed in the stimulus.
sometimes i come across questions that i faintly recall doing on practice tests at the start of my lsat journey, and remember how they felt sooo hard but now i can't believe i'm getting them right!! this is one of them. this is just to say keep up the grind, it's so hard and can feel unrewarding but i promise you'll start to see the growth!!! we got this :)
Just something I noticed with these questions: look at the language in the stimulus and see if it appears in any derived form in the answer that you suspect to be correct. For example, the context features "temporary" in the first sentence, and the correct answer talks about "after death." Why would a temporary monopoly on one's idea extend after death? If it did, then it would no longer be temporary.
I picked C because if an author can't find a publisher, by having work that is conserved through copyright, then their work, despite not being published, is at least noted somewhere and transcends them (goes beyond). I had to reach to get to this point and I see how with E I didn't need to reach as hard to arrive to the same conclusion.
It would be awesome if you provided another set of "previous" and "next" buttons at the top of the page for people who watch the videos only instead of reading. Otherwise we have to scroll through a lot of text everytime.
Fun fact: Happy Birthday To You (written in 1893 and first published in 1911) only just recently made its way into the public domain through a settlement with Warner Music.
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I actually knew about this copyright problem before LOL (not the question itself but how copyright lasts many years)
Ugh. I chose C which I feel stupid for after the explanation. In my head, I thought we could safely assume that copyright laws can affect a work's ability to be published -- hence ruining its original intent to circulate ideas. If you can't get something published because your work was copyrighted, how is your work going to be circulated? That was my logic.
can someone further explain why B doesn't work
@LSATDemon From my own reasoning, I would say that it's because while some authors are okay with their works being shared publicly without a copyright or financial reward, we aren't speaking about them. We are specifically talking about the authors who do expect a financial reward, since that was the original purpose of copyrighting (at least according to the passage). So, if the author is dead, but the published work is still copyrighted, the author obviously isn't getting financial compensation, but maybe something like their estate or their children is getting compensated financially.
Hope this helps.
@LSATDemon Well, we are trying to prove that copyright sometimes go beyond its sole purpose, which means it do more than encourage author to circulate their works through financial reasons. B stated that some authors do that without financial reason doesn't prove that copyright "go beyond" encouraging idea circulation.
I had a 'fork found in kitchen' moment the second i read E
I knew it was E on the actual and BR and still chose B!
I read answer E was like well DUHHH... then proceeded to pick answer B
I hate this.
@legallyhaya same
What do you mean when you state: "The support in MSS questions flows in the opposite direction, from the stimulus into the answer. Strengthen questions have support flow from the answer into the stimulus."
@KristoferMuhr I think it's like the stimulus is providing support in MSS questions to some claim in the answer choices but for a strengthen question the answer choice will provide more support for the stimulus. It's a question of which one (the stim or the answer) is bolstering the other one.
@DanielleBucko Thank you for the clarification. As I trenched through the next few lessons, it became a lot clearer that is what they are going for. Go bucs!
I felt that this entire answer was supported by the term "beyond". without that I dont think E would work. It is interesting bc I know that in the real world E is the right answer but I had a hard time find the evidence as such in the question stem (except for the word Beyond)
@AlizaGGG temporary also led me to e!
i love gaslighting myself into the wrong answer
I'm a bit confused by what question types this section is dealing with? Just questions that are non-causal? What skill should I be practicing here? I've just been thinking about which AC would be most reasonable.
The trend of getting every level 1 and 2 wrong and way over time, but getting every 3, 4, and 5 right and under-time is still holding strong.
"this is not a copyright problem, this is a 'you suck at writing problem'," -absolute gold.
E is the only answer where 'copywrites' is the subject
* copyrights ha
but what if someone close to death wanted to secure a financial reward to help their loved ones or to build generational wealth?
Hey Shootergang_Chloe, I think you are adding additional context that is irrelevant to the stimulus at hand, the stimulus says that a copyright is a government supported monopoly and continues to give reason as to why the government would support such a monopoly. The intentions of the author or holder of the copyright is largely irrelevant. Hope that helps.
So a way that I approached this question that may help other people from getting baited by B is this: the stimulus tells us that the SOLE purpose of copyright is to only encourage authors from getting money right and we are in charge of showing something that goes beyond the scope, beyond the intention of what it was originally supposed to be. For example (and please spare biases and give some grace): Cars were originally intended to go from point A to point B faster. Some people use cars for different reasons now: to run people over, to use it as an income source, go from point A to point B or to simply collect as an enthusiast. So if we were charged showing how the car has gone farther than the original purpose it was created for, then the reasons I listed would be examples. Same way here on the question, what are ways that copyright has gone beyond its original purpose. The fact that they last after someone's death has little bearing on financial gain for the individual because well they're dead who cares about money when you're dead and it was not in the original purpose listed in the stimulus.
sometimes i come across questions that i faintly recall doing on practice tests at the start of my lsat journey, and remember how they felt sooo hard but now i can't believe i'm getting them right!! this is one of them. this is just to say keep up the grind, it's so hard and can feel unrewarding but i promise you'll start to see the growth!!! we got this :)
love you for saying this! my day of 7sage just got better :)
"im not even sure why B is here" meanwhile i bet my life savings on B
Same. I'm just not getting this lol.
lmaooooo
Just something I noticed with these questions: look at the language in the stimulus and see if it appears in any derived form in the answer that you suspect to be correct. For example, the context features "temporary" in the first sentence, and the correct answer talks about "after death." Why would a temporary monopoly on one's idea extend after death? If it did, then it would no longer be temporary.
This was my logic too when solving this. I am still confused.
I tossed E because I believed in the Author's estate's rights or the rights of the Author's heirs for example.
I picked C because if an author can't find a publisher, by having work that is conserved through copyright, then their work, despite not being published, is at least noted somewhere and transcends them (goes beyond). I had to reach to get to this point and I see how with E I didn't need to reach as hard to arrive to the same conclusion.
I'm so mad I was going to chose E, but then convinced myself it was wrong wtf
I was thinking even the authors dies you could still give the rewards to his family.
sameee!!
Getting these answers wrong the first time, then redeeming myself during BR. dont know how to feel about that
It would be awesome if you provided another set of "previous" and "next" buttons at the top of the page for people who watch the videos only instead of reading. Otherwise we have to scroll through a lot of text everytime.
press shift and the arrow key to the direction you want to go!
Whoa! Thank you so much!
Fun fact: Happy Birthday To You (written in 1893 and first published in 1911) only just recently made its way into the public domain through a settlement with Warner Music.
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