I understand why A is right, and was going to choose it, but I don't understand how D is wrong. Because for someone to be affected by an art critic's opinion, they have to actively seek it out. When you walk around a museum, or look at art online, they don't have critiques next to all of the art works influencing people's pleasure. So if this conclusion were to be true, MOST people HAVE TO seek out these critical reviews. Again I understand how structurally A is right and I fully understood that when answering the question originally, but could anyone explain how this thought process is incorrect when thinking realistically?
@James D fails for two reasons. First, structurally: D only says most people seek out reviews before viewing art, so it makes a claim about exposure (whether the opinion reaches someone), not about merit. Even if we granted D as true, we'd still be stuck with the same unanswered question: "why would a change in pleasure mean a change in merit?" Second, on realism: the conclusion says merit "can depend" on critics. The argument is making a possibility claim, not a claim about what happens for most people or most of the time. So the argument only needs one instance where a critic's opinion reaches someone and shifts their pleasure; it doesn't require most people to actively seek out critical reviews.
I find it helpful to draw subconscious arrows from the starting point of the passage, to it's inevitable conclusion. Then, find an answer that mirrors this flow and uses the same wording.
I'm also mindful of any wrong answers that might mix-up the words/flow of the argument by talking about irrelevant info.
I'm confusing the process of finding the correct answer choice with the method of SA with PSA. I keep choosing a principle/rule that's more generalized and broad, rather than something that's narrow and specific to the argument.
I didn't realize that both ridiculing and lavishing praise both have the idea of "pleasure." I thought it was only in the first part so immediately crossed that out. Whoops...
I got stuck on E but then realized that it is wrong bc it only explains phenomenon going on in premises (why a critic's opinion increases or undermines pleasure in experiencing the artwork). It does not talk more broadly abt what that means regarding artistic merit which is what the conclusion is talking abt. Hope this helps anyone also a little lost on this one.
c: artistic merit depends on the artist and those who critically eval it
Wait, where does it say anything about pleasure being connected to merit? No. We need something that connects that bridge.
a) does that exactly
b) brings up why we might look to critics, but that doesn't explain why pleasure and merit are related
c) we still don't know the grounds for artisitc merti and how that correlates to pleasure
d) again, this still doesn't tell us pleasure and merit are related, though this is tempting. this is tempting because it feels like, yeah if they would look at what a critique says then it would influence the way ou feel about something but that points to our gap-- the argument is missing that artisitic merit comes from how much a piece of art can make you feel something (pleasure)
e) this isn't what we need, we need pleasure connected to merit. if we have that, then we have our a--> b--> c
Definitley going to need to put a lot of extra attention on Sufficnet Assumption Questions on all of them so far, I have gotten down to the final 2 choices and picked the incorrect one while having the correct one as my secondary choice
I didn't chose A because I felt that it was declaring the only measure of the merit of an artistic work is solely the pleasure it elicits, rather than clarifying the pleasure in addition to the person who creates it. I also still don't understand why E doesn't effectively bridge as a premise to the conclusion?
@EllieBonnette My understanding of why E doesn't serve as a bridge is because it still doesn't tell us the connection between pleasure and merit (which is what we are trying to connect together). It's almost too broad in a sense and would work great for other question types, but when we are trying to make the argument as airtight as possible, it leaves too much room for air bubbles to get in.
I find it easier to work with these type of questions if I just try to understand the stimulus and choose the correct answer based on instinct--instead of writing down all the conditional rules which overcomplicates it for me, so if you're struggling with writing down the rules try the alternative
I chose C. I don't know why. I don't know how. I don't even remember reading this question. Now I watch an explanation to a question I was not even mentally present for. I travelled away from space and time, I entered a new realm, a new reality. My earthly body chose C while I was away. Was I abducted by aliens or do I have ADHD?
For anyone that may need help with this kind of question:
When questions are like this P ---> C then the premise will always be the sufficient condition and the conclusion will be the necessary condition.
Because if P is true then the conclusion is true.
If there is ever only 1 premise and 1 conclusion, then the answer will be merely a restatement or a restatement but in the contrapositive. The lsat will try to trick you by using different words.
If I am 90% sure the answer I read (in this case A) is correct, should I bother reading the others? Should I just skim? What's the best approach for maximizing time savings without minimizing accuracy (too much). What's the right balance?
Anyone who has an opinion (and has gotten their time to where it needs to be) please lmk.
@AndrewWiedenkeller Hi! I would say to always read the other ACs. Even if you do read the first answer and feel that iit'scorrect, it's important to rule out why the others are wrong. I would also say that even if you're sure an AC is correct, the possibility of a stronger AC is always likely, and you don't want to miss that if you're skimming over the others.
@Greyhound They really can be super tricky because wrong answers can sound super tempting. The biggest tip i can give is to separate the premise from the conclusion (paraphrase it in ur own words if you can too) and build that P -> C bridge.
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I understand why A is right, and was going to choose it, but I don't understand how D is wrong. Because for someone to be affected by an art critic's opinion, they have to actively seek it out. When you walk around a museum, or look at art online, they don't have critiques next to all of the art works influencing people's pleasure. So if this conclusion were to be true, MOST people HAVE TO seek out these critical reviews. Again I understand how structurally A is right and I fully understood that when answering the question originally, but could anyone explain how this thought process is incorrect when thinking realistically?
@James D fails for two reasons. First, structurally: D only says most people seek out reviews before viewing art, so it makes a claim about exposure (whether the opinion reaches someone), not about merit. Even if we granted D as true, we'd still be stuck with the same unanswered question: "why would a change in pleasure mean a change in merit?" Second, on realism: the conclusion says merit "can depend" on critics. The argument is making a possibility claim, not a claim about what happens for most people or most of the time. So the argument only needs one instance where a critic's opinion reaches someone and shifts their pleasure; it doesn't require most people to actively seek out critical reviews.
kinda ate this one up
Almost fell for AC "C," then I saw it was a comparative claim. I am getting better at spotting why these wrong answers are wrong.
I find it helpful to draw subconscious arrows from the starting point of the passage, to it's inevitable conclusion. Then, find an answer that mirrors this flow and uses the same wording.
I'm also mindful of any wrong answers that might mix-up the words/flow of the argument by talking about irrelevant info.
I'm confusing the process of finding the correct answer choice with the method of SA with PSA. I keep choosing a principle/rule that's more generalized and broad, rather than something that's narrow and specific to the argument.
Finally!!!
im getting so cooked by these questions. i can't make sense of them
ugghhhhh i misread the question prompt and picked E because i thought the text had the most evidence for that.
@SeanStrauss same
I second-guessed myself and picked E! A just felt too obvious.
I KEEP GETTING THE BLIND REVIEW RIGHT CRAPPPP
I didn't realize that both ridiculing and lavishing praise both have the idea of "pleasure." I thought it was only in the first part so immediately crossed that out. Whoops...
I got stuck on E but then realized that it is wrong bc it only explains phenomenon going on in premises (why a critic's opinion increases or undermines pleasure in experiencing the artwork). It does not talk more broadly abt what that means regarding artistic merit which is what the conclusion is talking abt. Hope this helps anyone also a little lost on this one.
@EmilySantiana Thanks for explaining, i originally chose E, then A in BR.
Predicting the right answer is so satisfying.
Art Critics (A) influence Pleasure (B)
[Missing Piece]
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Art Critics (A) influence Merit (C)
Missing Piece = Pleasure (B) influences Merit (C)
A -> B
B -> C
____
A -> C
Answered D...
Before watching the video, I looked at the question again and realized D doesn't actually bridge the gap between pleasure and merit. A does that.
Answering D means you're still assuming pleasure is bridged to merit without having anything to back it up.
Art critic can affect pleasure of viewing art.
Merit depends on artist and critic.
We need a bridge between pleasure to merit.
ridicule --> undermine pleasure
praise --> increse pleasure
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c: artistic merit depends on the artist and those who critically eval it
Wait, where does it say anything about pleasure being connected to merit? No. We need something that connects that bridge.
a) does that exactly
b) brings up why we might look to critics, but that doesn't explain why pleasure and merit are related
c) we still don't know the grounds for artisitc merti and how that correlates to pleasure
d) again, this still doesn't tell us pleasure and merit are related, though this is tempting. this is tempting because it feels like, yeah if they would look at what a critique says then it would influence the way ou feel about something but that points to our gap-- the argument is missing that artisitic merit comes from how much a piece of art can make you feel something (pleasure)
e) this isn't what we need, we need pleasure connected to merit. if we have that, then we have our a--> b--> c
Definitley going to need to put a lot of extra attention on Sufficnet Assumption Questions on all of them so far, I have gotten down to the final 2 choices and picked the incorrect one while having the correct one as my secondary choice
I didn't chose A because I felt that it was declaring the only measure of the merit of an artistic work is solely the pleasure it elicits, rather than clarifying the pleasure in addition to the person who creates it. I also still don't understand why E doesn't effectively bridge as a premise to the conclusion?
@EllieBonnette My understanding of why E doesn't serve as a bridge is because it still doesn't tell us the connection between pleasure and merit (which is what we are trying to connect together). It's almost too broad in a sense and would work great for other question types, but when we are trying to make the argument as airtight as possible, it leaves too much room for air bubbles to get in.
I find it easier to work with these type of questions if I just try to understand the stimulus and choose the correct answer based on instinct--instead of writing down all the conditional rules which overcomplicates it for me, so if you're struggling with writing down the rules try the alternative
I chose C. I don't know why. I don't know how. I don't even remember reading this question. Now I watch an explanation to a question I was not even mentally present for. I travelled away from space and time, I entered a new realm, a new reality. My earthly body chose C while I was away. Was I abducted by aliens or do I have ADHD?
@JPolus so relatable lol
@Ender samee
@Enderson_II Congrats on the 177 you mad lad :')
I picked B because I'm a pompous asshole
I BR'ed A because it's the only one that makes sense lol
Finally got one right in this lesson. Party at my house!
Also, I have to remember to focus on the Premise to Conclusion Bridge.
For anyone that may need help with this kind of question:
When questions are like this P ---> C then the premise will always be the sufficient condition and the conclusion will be the necessary condition.
Because if P is true then the conclusion is true.
If there is ever only 1 premise and 1 conclusion, then the answer will be merely a restatement or a restatement but in the contrapositive. The lsat will try to trick you by using different words.
@goodluckonthelsatguys is this because the premise can likely exist by itself but the conclusion needs the premise to exist?
If I am 90% sure the answer I read (in this case A) is correct, should I bother reading the others? Should I just skim? What's the best approach for maximizing time savings without minimizing accuracy (too much). What's the right balance?
Anyone who has an opinion (and has gotten their time to where it needs to be) please lmk.
@AndrewWiedenkeller Hi! I would say to always read the other ACs. Even if you do read the first answer and feel that iit'scorrect, it's important to rule out why the others are wrong. I would also say that even if you're sure an AC is correct, the possibility of a stronger AC is always likely, and you don't want to miss that if you're skimming over the others.
These SA questions are kicking my butt, but I'm going to figure them out!
@Greyhound They really can be super tricky because wrong answers can sound super tempting. The biggest tip i can give is to separate the premise from the conclusion (paraphrase it in ur own words if you can too) and build that P -> C bridge.