if u are having trouble with this question type i highly recommend reading the PowerScore Logical Reasoning Bible. it explains a mechanistic approach for solving these questions that works without fail when applied correctly. basically u just figure out what concept is either applied in the premise but not conclusion or vice versa, and the right answer MUST include that concept. e.g. in this question, money is applied in the premise but not the conclusion. so the right answer must somehow link money into the conclusion. what is applied in the conclusion but not the premise? happiness. so the right answer must bridge money and happiness. health is applied in both the premise and conclusion, so it won't be in the right answer.
I got this one right on BR. My questions have not been consistently right. Some questions I am able to get right, others I've gotten wrong. It's kinda frustrating nonetheless I continue. Hope everyone here also doesn't beat themselves up.
@JacksonBartling I’m curious what kinds of questions people typically miss at that score range. Could you share what it looks like for you at this point in your prep?
@loboloco it depends upon whom you ask in particular, but my process is fairly simple: I study an hour everyday, no breaks, and I review any wrong answers thoroughly. Sundays are good for sections & PTs. I do not do frequent practice tests; sections are better for preventing fatigue.
High scorers can suffer from overconfidence and sometimes go “too fast”, which can lead to certain mistakes on trap answer questions. I always keep tabs on my timing throughout a section or test, but I also try to slow down when warranted to get those questions right.
I would counsel the following: learn conditional logic and all the group indicators inside and out (otherwise, CR questions take forever and leave you less time for other questions that take a long time, like PSA). Learn the difference between NA and SA very well, and keep them straight in your head. The spectrum model that they teach in the CC is great. Practice deep reading and try not to let little details pass you by in questions. Finally, attend some tier three difficulty classes if only to learn certain habits and thought processes that save time (for example, I learned that you can eliminate half of the answers on many CR questions just based on a false conclusion drawn… “Therefore, [sufficient condition] must be true”, which is wrong. Only necessary conditions can be concluded.
A whole bunch of babies in this comment section lmfao. Yes, there will be subjectively hard questions. What did you expect, to get a 180 handed to you on a silver platter???
@epayne17 completely uncalled for vulgarity. You are free to use another service that only ever shows you easy questions only so that you weep over your horrible scores on official tests.
Which do you prefer: struggle now on practice drills and tests or struggle on the real thing where there are real consequences, like not getting into law school and having massive debts?
@kaliyahwilliams stern, but not vulgar. I want the best for everyone taking the test; not sure how someone who says, “F you” to the people who are helping him could be reasonably compared to someone who reminds him what is at stake.
@kaliyahwilliams a difference of a couple points could be hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt... or even getting into law school Yes, I think it's a big deal.
got it right and its level 5!!!!! mapping out the lawgic is soooo helpful. if you know how to properly translate to lawgic, its so easy to get the answer.
i finally understand why E is wrong. i chose it because i passively assumed that wealth is the same thing as acquiring money and, in the context of the lsat, it isn’t. realistically, sacrificing health to acquire money could be getting $100 for a dangerous stunt. not the same thing as wealth.
i have only gotten 3 questions correct in this entire section and this was the one I felt most confident about lol. got it in 3m bc i grouped health + wealth as happiness. u can't have one without the other
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i got this quick only because I've seen it before. Lowkey only makes sense if you just dumb down the language
I will get this one day!!
if u are having trouble with this question type i highly recommend reading the PowerScore Logical Reasoning Bible. it explains a mechanistic approach for solving these questions that works without fail when applied correctly. basically u just figure out what concept is either applied in the premise but not conclusion or vice versa, and the right answer MUST include that concept. e.g. in this question, money is applied in the premise but not the conclusion. so the right answer must somehow link money into the conclusion. what is applied in the conclusion but not the premise? happiness. so the right answer must bridge money and happiness. health is applied in both the premise and conclusion, so it won't be in the right answer.
@ginelson Just tried this and it is a life saver. Thank you!
@ginelson wow i just tried this with the previous alien question and it works there too!! Thank you!!
@TekenaAbere can you pleaseee explain how you used this on the previous alien question? i'm so confused by it.
@ginelson This is super duper helpful, Thank you! I think you may have accidentally switched the Premise & Conclusion because:
One should never sacrifice one's health in order to acquire money (C), for without health, happiness is not obtainable. (P)
So Money is in the C but not P
Happiness is in P but not C
Health is in both P & C
So bridge Money to Happiness & you get answer choice A.
This is super helpful! I will be using this. Thank you for sharing!
second guessed myself and switched from A to E last minute 🫠
The big yahu is behind this question type I can feel it
HOLY AIRBALL
if harming health (HARM HEALTH=CANT EVER BE HAPPY) then u CANTTTT keep making money.
assume this--->
A) Money should be acquired only if its acquisition will not make happiness unobtainable.
A) basically translates to
go ahead and make money if it wont make happiness unobtainable.
I replaced happiness unobtainable w/ harm health
idk if that makes yall more confused
It is not the case that one should /health -> money
/(/health -> money)
For without health, no happiness
/Health -> /happiness
Which means it is not the case that you should sacrifice health, and thus sacrifice happiness, to get money
/(/health -> /happiness -> money)
No clue how I got A from this
just blow up this question type actually
I got this one right on BR. My questions have not been consistently right. Some questions I am able to get right, others I've gotten wrong. It's kinda frustrating nonetheless I continue. Hope everyone here also doesn't beat themselves up.
PTing in the low 170s and I have gotten every single SA question wrong in this section and cannot really understand any of the explanations
@AlexTiro in the same boat. Perseverance is a virtue!
@AlexTiro I got a good explanation for this question if you need help
@JacksonBartling I’m curious what kinds of questions people typically miss at that score range. Could you share what it looks like for you at this point in your prep?
@loboloco it depends upon whom you ask in particular, but my process is fairly simple: I study an hour everyday, no breaks, and I review any wrong answers thoroughly. Sundays are good for sections & PTs. I do not do frequent practice tests; sections are better for preventing fatigue.
High scorers can suffer from overconfidence and sometimes go “too fast”, which can lead to certain mistakes on trap answer questions. I always keep tabs on my timing throughout a section or test, but I also try to slow down when warranted to get those questions right.
I would counsel the following: learn conditional logic and all the group indicators inside and out (otherwise, CR questions take forever and leave you less time for other questions that take a long time, like PSA). Learn the difference between NA and SA very well, and keep them straight in your head. The spectrum model that they teach in the CC is great. Practice deep reading and try not to let little details pass you by in questions. Finally, attend some tier three difficulty classes if only to learn certain habits and thought processes that save time (for example, I learned that you can eliminate half of the answers on many CR questions just based on a false conclusion drawn… “Therefore, [sufficient condition] must be true”, which is wrong. Only necessary conditions can be concluded.
@JacksonBartling Thank you for the thorough response, I really appreciate it!
A whole bunch of babies in this comment section lmfao. Yes, there will be subjectively hard questions. What did you expect, to get a 180 handed to you on a silver platter???
@SofiyaBerman girl shut up
For some reason this was the easiest 5/5 for me don't know why we had 3 in a row though super cooked
Got this one right in time!! These past 3 have been tough and i don't feel solid in my choices.
I've noticed there is not even one single 2-3 difficulty question in the whole unit so far... makes it really hard to keep going.
honestly fuck you for putting 3 5/5 difficulty questions in a row. This does not help some people grasp the concept.
@epayne17 damn tough crowd
@lsatjasg for real
@epayne17 lmao💀
@epayne17 completely uncalled for vulgarity. You are free to use another service that only ever shows you easy questions only so that you weep over your horrible scores on official tests.
Which do you prefer: struggle now on practice drills and tests or struggle on the real thing where there are real consequences, like not getting into law school and having massive debts?
@JacksonBartling how you mad at him for being rude and you are being rude back?
@kaliyahwilliams stern, but not vulgar. I want the best for everyone taking the test; not sure how someone who says, “F you” to the people who are helping him could be reasonably compared to someone who reminds him what is at stake.
@JacksonBartling "at stake" you act like this is life or death. its a freaking test.
@kaliyahwilliams a difference of a couple points could be hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt... or even getting into law school Yes, I think it's a big deal.
got it right and its level 5!!!!! mapping out the lawgic is soooo helpful. if you know how to properly translate to lawgic, its so easy to get the answer.
@jrm98 agreed! i was struggling along trying to do it in my head like i usually do, but writing out in lawgic has me like ohhhhhhh okay
i finally understand why E is wrong. i chose it because i passively assumed that wealth is the same thing as acquiring money and, in the context of the lsat, it isn’t. realistically, sacrificing health to acquire money could be getting $100 for a dangerous stunt. not the same thing as wealth.
sneaky assumptions 🤝level 4&5 questions
i fucking hate sufficient assumption
Why are all of these level 5????
how can a one sentence stimulus mess me up lol
I get this question correct intuitively drawing concluding happiness requires health.
OH MY GOD I FINALLY GOT ONE OF THESE RIGHT AND ITS A LVL 5 IM GONNA START CRYIHG
I knew it was A but went with C anyway
i have only gotten 3 questions correct in this entire section and this was the one I felt most confident about lol. got it in 3m bc i grouped health + wealth as happiness. u can't have one without the other