omggg my first time getting a question right in under the timeee 46 seconds underrrr!! Shallow dip elimination based off matching conclusions is seriously the way to go I didnt even fully read all the answer choices.
Initially thought this was it, but had to read the rest cause I thought the difference between speed and acceleration was a trick. still came back to this but ended up wasting a lot of unnecessary time
I'm wondering... if i see an answer choice with the same subject matter as the stimulus, can i immediately eliminate it? Or are there past examples on the LSAT where the correct answer for a parallel question is actually the same in subject matter as the stimulus?
@LSATbae123 in an example Q he said that most likely the answer choice won't follow the same subject matter as the stimulus. obviously, can't ever guarantee it, but with time not on our side, it's probably safe to bet on this
So instead of wasting my time diagramming the stimulus. I only looked at the conclusions in the answer choices and matched it to the conclusion in the stimulus. Matching words that convey similar logical strength. But understanding the stimulus matters too.
For those interested, here's how I approached the question.
First, look at the conclusion of the stimulus, and then match it with a conclusion in the answer choices. We see that the stimulus concludes prescriptively that there is only one option (that people be taxed according to their income). So then I look for the answer choices that have a matching conclusion that says something is the ONLY way of solving a problem. A is the only one that matches.
Diving deeper, we can look at the rest of the stimulus. The structure presents what is "most objective" and draws a conclusive conclusion.
I initially got confused because acceleration doesn't equal speed. In my head, a car can accelerate 0 to 10 in 0.01 seconds, but still have a top speed of 20 miles per hour. Not very fast.
BUT the question asks which one is MOST similar. A beats the rest of the questions by a long shot, even though there is a flaw. If the question read "Which one of the following is analogous to the reasoning in the argument?", then I feel like there wouldn't be a correct answer. BUT because it asks "most similar", I needed to be more lenient with my answer choices.
@MarcusTsang I also thought about the speed v. acceleration discrepancy, but the stimulus conflates wealth with income which is a similar comparison - you can have $5 billion in income but still be poor because you spend all your money on pay day. Don't know if that's what they're going for but this is how I thought about it!
Hey! even if you are wrong, but you have taken more then twice as much of the time as you are supposed to, it tells you to go back and look at it in BR. So, trust your reasoning when you really spend the time to knock it out!
got it in 45 seconds! I read A and knew it was (probably almost def) the right answer! I definitely sacrificed quite a bit of confidence for time tho eek!
read A right off the rip picked it in under a min, then proceeded to check everything and was done by under 2, rechecked and submitted at 2:10, I guess I dont feel comfortable moving on till Im sure its correct?? is there a way to get around this as I could of been done fast?
So from what I understand, Take A and move on to the next problem and if you have more time later in exam then come back and check it out but ONLY if you have adequate time
yep, from now on if I read an AC and I think its right but not sure Ill pick it and flag the Q to come back to it. Some of these analogy Qs are rly ez without acutally reading. Match the stim con to the AC con, the stim said soley so you want an AC that is super limited which is what you have in A with the "only"
Might be the easiest question type - let me explain. When reading the stimulus, all you have to do is identify the format of the argument, If A then B or B is required for A or Only B can cause A,,,, PER EVERY SENTENCE. Then find whichever damn AC matches, which AC uses the same exact format. If the stimulus says A→B, B→C, therefore A most C, the matching AC must have that exact same format. HUNT FOR THE EXACT SAME CHAINS(FORMAT). (99% reliable).
When that doesn't work, or the format of the arguments logic is overly convoluted. Go to the conclusion of the stimulus. If the stimulus conclusion says A should "solely" B then the conclusion in the AC must match that! (100% reliable)!!!!!!!! Gd bless the world.
I was pretty quick to eliminate A.) because the first premise was prescriptive (ie. contained "should"), which is not the case for the premise in the conclusion. I assume, then, that prescriptive/descriptive gap is not sufficient to eliminate an answer?
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omggg my first time getting a question right in under the timeee 46 seconds underrrr!! Shallow dip elimination based off matching conclusions is seriously the way to go I didnt even fully read all the answer choices.
5 seconds over LETSGOOO
Initially thought this was it, but had to read the rest cause I thought the difference between speed and acceleration was a trick. still came back to this but ended up wasting a lot of unnecessary time
this question fycked me up
This question did not make sense for me during and still does not make sense to me after the explanation lmao
i had it right but did not trust my gut
@Sabercat48 same gang
finally got this right but took 3 min
I'm wondering... if i see an answer choice with the same subject matter as the stimulus, can i immediately eliminate it? Or are there past examples on the LSAT where the correct answer for a parallel question is actually the same in subject matter as the stimulus?
@LSATbae123 in an example Q he said that most likely the answer choice won't follow the same subject matter as the stimulus. obviously, can't ever guarantee it, but with time not on our side, it's probably safe to bet on this
So instead of wasting my time diagramming the stimulus. I only looked at the conclusions in the answer choices and matched it to the conclusion in the stimulus. Matching words that convey similar logical strength. But understanding the stimulus matters too.
STIM: "should" and "solely"
Correct Answer: "should" and "only"
@bcn I also did this because I need to practice my timing! However, I wonder if it is bad to rely on this method on the exam.
For those interested, here's how I approached the question.
First, look at the conclusion of the stimulus, and then match it with a conclusion in the answer choices. We see that the stimulus concludes prescriptively that there is only one option (that people be taxed according to their income). So then I look for the answer choices that have a matching conclusion that says something is the ONLY way of solving a problem. A is the only one that matches.
Diving deeper, we can look at the rest of the stimulus. The structure presents what is "most objective" and draws a conclusive conclusion.
I initially got confused because acceleration doesn't equal speed. In my head, a car can accelerate 0 to 10 in 0.01 seconds, but still have a top speed of 20 miles per hour. Not very fast.
BUT the question asks which one is MOST similar. A beats the rest of the questions by a long shot, even though there is a flaw. If the question read "Which one of the following is analogous to the reasoning in the argument?", then I feel like there wouldn't be a correct answer. BUT because it asks "most similar", I needed to be more lenient with my answer choices.
TLDR: Be extra sensitive to the question stem.
@MarcusTsang I also thought about the speed v. acceleration discrepancy, but the stimulus conflates wealth with income which is a similar comparison - you can have $5 billion in income but still be poor because you spend all your money on pay day. Don't know if that's what they're going for but this is how I thought about it!
I want you to put the word out there that we back up.
@kpforpresident
Got it in 1:07 using the shallow dip method.
What about not choosing AC's that use similar content as the stimulus? Taxes for both??
Bang
Who came up with this argument? An oligarch (rhymes with pesos) that claims his income is only 80k a year? Lol.
It said I was wrong when I was right, and I took no longer on this then I have prior questions (I'm a minute or two off each time, I know, it's bad.)
@MohamedFayez02
Hey! even if you are wrong, but you have taken more then twice as much of the time as you are supposed to, it tells you to go back and look at it in BR. So, trust your reasoning when you really spend the time to knock it out!
got it in 45 seconds! I read A and knew it was (probably almost def) the right answer! I definitely sacrificed quite a bit of confidence for time tho eek!
@vieras same
Didn't catch the difference between wealth/income and speed/acceleration until Blind Review.
I thought the reasoning was part v whole, since income is an aspect of wealth, just as acceleration is an aspect of speed.
read A right off the rip picked it in under a min, then proceeded to check everything and was done by under 2, rechecked and submitted at 2:10, I guess I dont feel comfortable moving on till Im sure its correct?? is there a way to get around this as I could of been done fast?
also knew A was right off the rip b/c of the "only" that matches to the soley in the stim meaning the ONLY way
So from what I understand, Take A and move on to the next problem and if you have more time later in exam then come back and check it out but ONLY if you have adequate time
yep, from now on if I read an AC and I think its right but not sure Ill pick it and flag the Q to come back to it. Some of these analogy Qs are rly ez without acutally reading. Match the stim con to the AC con, the stim said soley so you want an AC that is super limited which is what you have in A with the "only"
I replied pretty heavily on the word solely timed and became even more confident in BR that A was correct though I did spend 2 mins of this questions.
so "Solely in" = "only in" for conditional indicators?
Shallow dip success and within target time :')
@donontherun Yep, eliminated C,D and E right off the bat.
Might be the easiest question type - let me explain. When reading the stimulus, all you have to do is identify the format of the argument, If A then B or B is required for A or Only B can cause A,,,, PER EVERY SENTENCE. Then find whichever damn AC matches, which AC uses the same exact format. If the stimulus says A→B, B→C, therefore A most C, the matching AC must have that exact same format. HUNT FOR THE EXACT SAME CHAINS(FORMAT). (99% reliable).
When that doesn't work, or the format of the arguments logic is overly convoluted. Go to the conclusion of the stimulus. If the stimulus conclusion says A should "solely" B then the conclusion in the AC must match that! (100% reliable)!!!!!!!! Gd bless the world.
bro take a prozac
I was pretty quick to eliminate A.) because the first premise was prescriptive (ie. contained "should"), which is not the case for the premise in the conclusion. I assume, then, that prescriptive/descriptive gap is not sufficient to eliminate an answer?