I would have to disagree with some other commenters and say that this lesson is placed exactly where it ought to be within the curriculum. It's smarter/easier/less stressful to generally ramp up to this level of understanding; and I think that the 7Sage course and all its videos/lessons do this exceedingly gracefully
Lol it reminds me of the videos about the different valid/invalid argument forms. 7Sagers were like "why does this matter?!" and "when are we even going to use this?!" Literally just freaking out because they weren't comfortable learning something without knowing how it was going to be used later.
Not knowing myself, I was still like "trust, people. All will be revealed in time."
I have so much more faith in this course now that I've seen the way it's structured than I did before I finally purchased it.
Poor JY, haha. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Oh well, all I can do is speak for myself and say that I think this course is organized beautifully
A necessary assumption is something that is required for the argument to work. If it’s not true, the argument is bust. BTW, don’t mistake it for an important/significant assumption. A necessary assumption can be quite small and inconspicuous, and it being true doesn’t guarantee the argument.
A sufficient assumption guarantees that the argument will work. If it’s not true, it doesn’t necessarily destroy the argument.
Necessary assumption: I can run.
Sufficient assumption: I can run a 4:30 minute mile.
I like this check in! It's also really helpful that I took multiple LSATs before embarking on all this curriculum so at least I recognize those questions that made no sense to me then and now can see like "oh great now I see why I need to learn this concept I remember seeing it"
I'm taking my LSAT tomorrow (The practice test have me from 160-165)
This is my first time realizing that Sufficient assumption and Necessary assumption questions are called what they are called because of the relationship between Necessary and Sufficient.
Among the various benefits I have so far gained from listening to master JY is that I am actually able to hear him, in my little head, work through an argument...scary Ah!
#feedback This video is very helpful! However the video is 7 minutes long and the lesson says it will only take 1 minute. Additionally I have watched this video 2-3 times and pressed the arrow onto the next lesson but 7sage is still not registering that I have completed this lesson.
Weakening and Flawed Method of Reasoning have been giving me so much trouble. After watching this, I'm very excited to go back to these types types of questions and punch them in the face, or describe how I'm going to punch them in the face. This should be gratifying
my 35fl oz water bottle fell on my computer & instantly pick it up...
IT FELL AGAIN
EXCEPT THIS TIME
all over my LSAT 7SAGE notebook. Filled with 84 pages of notes, and color coded vocabulary words, graphs, and explanations.
This is completely relevant, due to the fact that its one of the worst feelings I have ever had. Ever. SO, if anyone wants to translate my night into 'LAWGIC', please do.
I'm so sorry this happened to you ): and I hope my question doesn't come off as insensitive - but is there a special type of notebook that 7Sage provides? If so, can you please post the link where I can find it? Or did you just mean a notebook that you used for 7Sage?
I love the "weaken questions: you take the argument and punch it in the face, flawed arguments: you describe how you punch the argument in the phase." My new approach to weaken questions!
I am trying to view/download the pdf and my screen just shows up as blank when I click the link. It could be my computer but wanted to flag this in case it's not
Just letting you know that the issue has now been fixed. You can now download or view the PDF in this lesson. However, if you are still having issues, please let me know so I can assist you.
My apologies again for the trouble. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
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I would have to disagree with some other commenters and say that this lesson is placed exactly where it ought to be within the curriculum. It's smarter/easier/less stressful to generally ramp up to this level of understanding; and I think that the 7Sage course and all its videos/lessons do this exceedingly gracefully
Lol it reminds me of the videos about the different valid/invalid argument forms. 7Sagers were like "why does this matter?!" and "when are we even going to use this?!" Literally just freaking out because they weren't comfortable learning something without knowing how it was going to be used later.
Not knowing myself, I was still like "trust, people. All will be revealed in time."
I have so much more faith in this course now that I've seen the way it's structured than I did before I finally purchased it.
Poor JY, haha. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Oh well, all I can do is speak for myself and say that I think this course is organized beautifully
Yo, been going through this and seeing your comments this whole time. You have an awesome mindset, you're gonna do great!
Yup I agree with you 100% and it also comes down to the fact that some people are not patient and just want to get straight to the questions like lmao
Yes, yes, yes! Those comments drive me nuts.
cuz he's the fan of the real #goat. #goclips
everyone got this mwah now onto rc which I am the most scared of ( I'm a slow reader) prayers
in the same boat homie!!
@alina.cyriac cries in first gen immigrant
Chat, we finished LR. It is time to LOCK IN.
WE'RE FREEEEEEE
@iriswu84153
@WilRothman BAHA this is exactly what it feels like
I like punching arguments in the face. :)
I would definitely recommend that this lesson is moved to earlier in the course. It would provide a helpful framework.
A necessary assumption is something that is required for the argument to work. If it’s not true, the argument is bust. BTW, don’t mistake it for an important/significant assumption. A necessary assumption can be quite small and inconspicuous, and it being true doesn’t guarantee the argument.
A sufficient assumption guarantees that the argument will work. If it’s not true, it doesn’t necessarily destroy the argument.
Necessary assumption: I can run.
Sufficient assumption: I can run a 4:30 minute mile.
very helpful! thank you
Thank you. I understand it clearer now.
I feel like it’s finally clicking for me…
same! I feel like I was having a very hard time understanding and out of no where it kind of just clicked.
I like this check in! It's also really helpful that I took multiple LSATs before embarking on all this curriculum so at least I recognize those questions that made no sense to me then and now can see like "oh great now I see why I need to learn this concept I remember seeing it"
It's starting to make sense now that the road is set
I'm taking my LSAT tomorrow (The practice test have me from 160-165)
This is my first time realizing that Sufficient assumption and Necessary assumption questions are called what they are called because of the relationship between Necessary and Sufficient.
S -> N.
I feel dumb
I cannot remove this comment ;-;
It's okay - you'll do great!!! :)
Work work work work work work you see me doing LSAT work work work work work work, it makes my brain hurt hurt hurt hurt hurt hurt
This is better than the original.
found description a lot easier to do than engagement and analysis
Among the various benefits I have so far gained from listening to master JY is that I am actually able to hear him, in my little head, work through an argument...scary Ah!
#feedback This video is very helpful! However the video is 7 minutes long and the lesson says it will only take 1 minute. Additionally I have watched this video 2-3 times and pressed the arrow onto the next lesson but 7sage is still not registering that I have completed this lesson.
you can manually check off the lesson on the syllabus page
what are you smoking today Real Geeker
Love when JY said weakening is to "punch the argument in the face", lol.
Wow so fricken cool.. I love this video… I feel like I'm part of a secret group that just unlocked the LSAT secrets lmaooooo
Admin Note: removed all caps
Weakening and Flawed Method of Reasoning have been giving me so much trouble. After watching this, I'm very excited to go back to these types types of questions and punch them in the face, or describe how I'm going to punch them in the face. This should be gratifying
SAME btw hope you did great on the LSAT!
Finally free but at what cost
Is there a way we can 'like' or 'thumbs-up' this video? I'm so tempted to 'like' a video after I finish it lol.
AS I SAT HERE DURING THIS LESSON
my 35fl oz water bottle fell on my computer & instantly pick it up...
IT FELL AGAIN
EXCEPT THIS TIME
all over my LSAT 7SAGE notebook. Filled with 84 pages of notes, and color coded vocabulary words, graphs, and explanations.
This is completely relevant, due to the fact that its one of the worst feelings I have ever had. Ever. SO, if anyone wants to translate my night into 'LAWGIC', please do.
I'm so sorry this happened to you ): and I hope my question doesn't come off as insensitive - but is there a special type of notebook that 7Sage provides? If so, can you please post the link where I can find it? Or did you just mean a notebook that you used for 7Sage?
Thank you! And sorry again!
I feel ya.
@CaseyAnn C, there is no official 7sage notebook. There are some user generated study sheets though.
I love the "weaken questions: you take the argument and punch it in the face, flawed arguments: you describe how you punch the argument in the phase." My new approach to weaken questions!
Wondering if anyone finds the arg. engagement & analysis to be harder than parallel & description?
I actually feel like the argument description is necessary for engagement & analysis, rather than the other way around.
is there a cheat sheet anywhere listing these LR question stems w/ examples?
thanks!
@Catpop https://coda.io/d/7Sage-LSATs-LR-Cheat-Sheet_di5c3yhdxZY/7Sage-LSAT-LR-Cheat-Sheet_sug4mZW-?utm_campaign=embed&utm_medium=web&utm_source=i5c3yhdxZY#LR-Cheat-Sheet_tuUrFhBi/r7&columnId=c-O_ELUsx_Xy
I am trying to view/download the pdf and my screen just shows up as blank when I click the link. It could be my computer but wanted to flag this in case it's not
Hi there,
Just letting you know that the issue has now been fixed. You can now download or view the PDF in this lesson. However, if you are still having issues, please let me know so I can assist you.
My apologies again for the trouble. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Yeah I just tried to do the same and for whatever reason the PDF will not load. Hopefully it gets resolved soon