I would have to disagree with some other commenters and say that this lesson is placed exactly where it ought to be within the curriculum. It's smarter/easier/less stressful to generally ramp up to this level of understanding; and I think that the 7Sage course and all its videos/lessons do this exceedingly gracefully
Lol it reminds me of the videos about the different valid/invalid argument forms. 7Sagers were like "why does this matter?!" and "when are we even going to use this?!" Literally just freaking out because they weren't comfortable learning something without knowing how it was going to be used later.
Not knowing myself, I was still like "trust, people. All will be revealed in time."
I have so much more faith in this course now that I've seen the way it's structured than I did before I finally purchased it.
Poor JY, haha. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Oh well, all I can do is speak for myself and say that I think this course is organized beautifully
A necessary assumption is something that is required for the argument to work. If it’s not true, the argument is bust. BTW, don’t mistake it for an important/significant assumption. A necessary assumption can be quite small and inconspicuous, and it being true doesn’t guarantee the argument.
A sufficient assumption guarantees that the argument will work. If it’s not true, it doesn’t necessarily destroy the argument.
Necessary assumption: I can run.
Sufficient assumption: I can run a 4:30 minute mile.
I like this check in! It's also really helpful that I took multiple LSATs before embarking on all this curriculum so at least I recognize those questions that made no sense to me then and now can see like "oh great now I see why I need to learn this concept I remember seeing it"
I'm taking my LSAT tomorrow (The practice test have me from 160-165)
This is my first time realizing that Sufficient assumption and Necessary assumption questions are called what they are called because of the relationship between Necessary and Sufficient.
#feedback This video is very helpful! However the video is 7 minutes long and the lesson says it will only take 1 minute. Additionally I have watched this video 2-3 times and pressed the arrow onto the next lesson but 7sage is still not registering that I have completed this lesson.
Among the various benefits I have so far gained from listening to master JY is that I am actually able to hear him, in my little head, work through an argument...scary Ah!
Weakening and Flawed Method of Reasoning have been giving me so much trouble. After watching this, I'm very excited to go back to these types types of questions and punch them in the face, or describe how I'm going to punch them in the face. This should be gratifying
my 35fl oz water bottle fell on my computer & instantly pick it up...
IT FELL AGAIN
EXCEPT THIS TIME
all over my LSAT 7SAGE notebook. Filled with 84 pages of notes, and color coded vocabulary words, graphs, and explanations.
This is completely relevant, due to the fact that its one of the worst feelings I have ever had. Ever. SO, if anyone wants to translate my night into 'LAWGIC', please do.
I'm so sorry this happened to you ): and I hope my question doesn't come off as insensitive - but is there a special type of notebook that 7Sage provides? If so, can you please post the link where I can find it? Or did you just mean a notebook that you used for 7Sage?
I love the "weaken questions: you take the argument and punch it in the face, flawed arguments: you describe how you punch the argument in the phase." My new approach to weaken questions!
Well to add on to this, a NA is basically bridging the gap between the premise and the conclusion so the conclusion is true. The bridge is necessary for the conclusion to be true. A SA is an unstated premise. In order for the conclusion to be true, for a SA question, you pick an answer choice that is VALID and is the missing premise.
Necessary -- something is necessary to bring about an action (e.g., it is necessary that a soccer ball must be hit toward a goal for a point to be scored). Note, however, that you can kick a soccer ball toward a goal and still miss/not score, so necessary events don't always bring about an outcome.
Sufficient -- something is sufficient to bring about an event (e.g., successful completion of all degree requirements is sufficient to achieve a degree). This is because X (completion of requirements) always results in Y (achieve the degree).
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I would have to disagree with some other commenters and say that this lesson is placed exactly where it ought to be within the curriculum. It's smarter/easier/less stressful to generally ramp up to this level of understanding; and I think that the 7Sage course and all its videos/lessons do this exceedingly gracefully
Lol it reminds me of the videos about the different valid/invalid argument forms. 7Sagers were like "why does this matter?!" and "when are we even going to use this?!" Literally just freaking out because they weren't comfortable learning something without knowing how it was going to be used later.
Not knowing myself, I was still like "trust, people. All will be revealed in time."
I have so much more faith in this course now that I've seen the way it's structured than I did before I finally purchased it.
Poor JY, haha. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Oh well, all I can do is speak for myself and say that I think this course is organized beautifully
Yo, been going through this and seeing your comments this whole time. You have an awesome mindset, you're gonna do great!
Yup I agree with you 100% and it also comes down to the fact that some people are not patient and just want to get straight to the questions like lmao
Yes, yes, yes! Those comments drive me nuts.
cuz he's the fan of the real #goat. #goclips
everyone got this mwah now onto rc which I am the most scared of ( I'm a slow reader) prayers
in the same boat homie!!
@alina.cyriac cries in first gen immigrant
Chat, we finished LR. It is time to LOCK IN.
WE'RE FREEEEEEE
@iriswu84153
I would definitely recommend that this lesson is moved to earlier in the course. It would provide a helpful framework.
I like punching arguments in the face. :)
A necessary assumption is something that is required for the argument to work. If it’s not true, the argument is bust. BTW, don’t mistake it for an important/significant assumption. A necessary assumption can be quite small and inconspicuous, and it being true doesn’t guarantee the argument.
A sufficient assumption guarantees that the argument will work. If it’s not true, it doesn’t necessarily destroy the argument.
Necessary assumption: I can run.
Sufficient assumption: I can run a 4:30 minute mile.
Thank you. I understand it clearer now.
very helpful! thank you
It's starting to make sense now that the road is set
I feel like it’s finally clicking for me…
same! I feel like I was having a very hard time understanding and out of no where it kind of just clicked.
I like this check in! It's also really helpful that I took multiple LSATs before embarking on all this curriculum so at least I recognize those questions that made no sense to me then and now can see like "oh great now I see why I need to learn this concept I remember seeing it"
I'm taking my LSAT tomorrow (The practice test have me from 160-165)
This is my first time realizing that Sufficient assumption and Necessary assumption questions are called what they are called because of the relationship between Necessary and Sufficient.
S -> N.
I feel dumb
It's okay - you'll do great!!! :)
I cannot remove this comment ;-;
Work work work work work work you see me doing LSAT work work work work work work, it makes my brain hurt hurt hurt hurt hurt hurt
This is better than the original.
found description a lot easier to do than engagement and analysis
#feedback This video is very helpful! However the video is 7 minutes long and the lesson says it will only take 1 minute. Additionally I have watched this video 2-3 times and pressed the arrow onto the next lesson but 7sage is still not registering that I have completed this lesson.
you can manually check off the lesson on the syllabus page
what are you smoking today Real Geeker
Among the various benefits I have so far gained from listening to master JY is that I am actually able to hear him, in my little head, work through an argument...scary Ah!
Love when JY said weakening is to "punch the argument in the face", lol.
Weakening and Flawed Method of Reasoning have been giving me so much trouble. After watching this, I'm very excited to go back to these types types of questions and punch them in the face, or describe how I'm going to punch them in the face. This should be gratifying
SAME btw hope you did great on the LSAT!
Wow so fricken cool.. I love this video… I feel like I'm part of a secret group that just unlocked the LSAT secrets lmaooooo
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Is there a way we can 'like' or 'thumbs-up' this video? I'm so tempted to 'like' a video after I finish it lol.
AS I SAT HERE DURING THIS LESSON
my 35fl oz water bottle fell on my computer & instantly pick it up...
IT FELL AGAIN
EXCEPT THIS TIME
all over my LSAT 7SAGE notebook. Filled with 84 pages of notes, and color coded vocabulary words, graphs, and explanations.
This is completely relevant, due to the fact that its one of the worst feelings I have ever had. Ever. SO, if anyone wants to translate my night into 'LAWGIC', please do.
I feel ya.
I'm so sorry this happened to you ): and I hope my question doesn't come off as insensitive - but is there a special type of notebook that 7Sage provides? If so, can you please post the link where I can find it? Or did you just mean a notebook that you used for 7Sage?
Thank you! And sorry again!
@CaseyAnn C, there is no official 7sage notebook. There are some user generated study sheets though.
I love the "weaken questions: you take the argument and punch it in the face, flawed arguments: you describe how you punch the argument in the phase." My new approach to weaken questions!
Finally free but at what cost
Could someone help me by identifying the differences between necessary and sufficient assumptions? #help (Added by Admin)
Well to add on to this, a NA is basically bridging the gap between the premise and the conclusion so the conclusion is true. The bridge is necessary for the conclusion to be true. A SA is an unstated premise. In order for the conclusion to be true, for a SA question, you pick an answer choice that is VALID and is the missing premise.
Necessary -- something is necessary to bring about an action (e.g., it is necessary that a soccer ball must be hit toward a goal for a point to be scored). Note, however, that you can kick a soccer ball toward a goal and still miss/not score, so necessary events don't always bring about an outcome.
Sufficient -- something is sufficient to bring about an event (e.g., successful completion of all degree requirements is sufficient to achieve a degree). This is because X (completion of requirements) always results in Y (achieve the degree).
Thank you!
Wondering if anyone finds the arg. engagement & analysis to be harder than parallel & description?
I actually feel like the argument description is necessary for engagement & analysis, rather than the other way around.
is there a cheat sheet anywhere listing these LR question stems w/ examples?
thanks!
@Catpop https://coda.io/d/7Sage-LSATs-LR-Cheat-Sheet_di5c3yhdxZY/7Sage-LSAT-LR-Cheat-Sheet_sug4mZW-?utm_campaign=embed&utm_medium=web&utm_source=i5c3yhdxZY#LR-Cheat-Sheet_tuUrFhBi/r7&columnId=c-O_ELUsx_Xy