Why is milk the object. More accurately, why is the predicate object important? Isn't "The cat likes to drink" sufficient and then (fermented) milk is the modifier? #help
I thought of it as "the cat drinks milk" because within the predicate, "drinks" acts as the verb and milk as the object. The object is the thing that the verb (drinking) acts upon (milk). So ask yourself in your case, "What is a valid kernel of a sentence, in which the purpose of the sentence is still met?" I think yours is a little too abstract of a kernel. Your kernel should be a clear rundown of the sentence. I also see "like" as a modifier of "drinking" instead of a verb replacement because what if the cat hates drinking milk? Or what if he is neutral about it? You have to be open-minded when selecting your subject+predicate.
"The cat likes to drink" also doesn't provide the specifics and direction of the stimulus. It leaves you with an open-ended sentence, which I believe isn't optimal when breaking down the sentence. I hope that makes sense.
Hello everyone! This is a bad example, but there is an answer. Every word in every sentence has rules it needs to follow. For this sentence "The cat likes to drink" would be sufficient since not every sentence has an object.
I hit.
I hit him.
I like to hit him.
I like to hit him in his face.
Here, I changed the verb from "hit" in the first two, to "like", or rather, "like to hit" in the latter. (this is why I don't like this example: he uses "likes to drink" as the verb, rather than just one word.)
In all of my examples except the first, though, "him" is still getting punched, no matter what, and we are committed to it and can't change it. And then, in the last, "in his face" is just modifying where I'm hitting "him".
My best guess is that like functions as a modifier for drink, so it wouldn't be sufficient. The sentence is trying to convey what the cat drinks, as opposed to what the cat likes. I hope that helps!
idk if this will help any of y'all but this is how I sorted it:
The cat that I brought home from the shelter in the middle of the village where a merchant was murdered on the only snowy day last year likes to drink fermented milk from the Swedish cow that we imported from Austria at considerable expense.
Subject noun: the cat
What about the cat: that i brought home
Where did you bring the cat home from? The shelter
Where was the shelter? In the middle of the village
What about the village: where a merchant was murdered
When was the merchant murdered: on the only snowy day last year
Preciate verb: drinks
Object: milk
What kind of milk: fermented milk
Any fermented milk: from the swedish cow
Any swedish cow?: that we imported from austria
Was it cheap or expensive?: at a considerable expense
@_seb thats what I got too - also couldn't the word "like" be a modifier in likes to drink milk? Really it is just cat drinks milk - liking to drink milk being a modifier...
The last example, couldn't milk be considered a modifier of to drink? It answers the question what does the cat likes to drink, so couldn't it be broken down to simply be saying "the cat likes to drink."
@JimMcEnulty thats what I thought, but take a look at the "modiefiers in thesubject" video. It has a tree that makes it clear milk is part of the predicate because it is an object modifying the verb.
I had the same thought. I'm having a tough time figuring out when there is an "object" in the predicate v. when the would-be object is simply a modifier.
From prior knowledge, I am not sure if this helps in your understanding, I know that the "object" receives the action of the verb. So, in that case, when you figure out what the verb of the sentence is, see if there is a word or phrase that the verb is directly or indirectly affecting. If the verb is "drinks" ask yourself what is being drank in the sentence. If it is "milk" then, milk is the direct object of the verb. Not sure if that helps!
But "the cat likes to drink" is a full sentence. Similar to "the cat sings". In the previous lessons it was also stated that a predicate MUST contain a verb but CAN contain a noun.
I see what you're saying. But even if you remove "likes" and replace it with "drinks"; "the cat drinks" is still a full sentence with a subject and a predicate.
Shouldnt the last one be "the cat likes to drink"? Saying "drinks milk" would be more specific and adding information that would come with the questions like "what does the cat like to drink?"
@JacksonHolt In this case, "milk" is an object, which is part of the predicate. It doesn't directly modify anything, so much as "answer a question" indirectly posed by the verb (either receiving or being affected by the action).
In your example, "the cat like(s) to drink milk," The subject and verb together ("the cat likes to drink") form a complete sentence, but it really only makes sense because we understand "likes to drink" figuratively as "likes to drink alcohol." We may be concerned for the cat's mental health and wellbeing.
Taken literally, "the cat likes to drink" needs to answer a question to get its barebones point across. What does the cat like to drink? Milk.
If you can answer a question about the basic subject-verb phrase in that way with a noun (or noun phrase) in the sentence, it's an object.
@WeepingWillow I guess we actually don't know if the cat likes milk.
I thought this too, but based on the text we only know that the cat likes to drink milk. It is possible (although unlikley) that the cat likes to drink milk, but does not like milk. We don't know anything about if the cat actually likes milk itself, but just the act of drinking it.
@iynur milk in this case is the object of "drink," in that in names the thing being drunk rather than just describing the drinking. It answers the "drink what?" Modifiers as we have seen by contrast are just describing which is why they are unnecessary for a cohesive sentence.
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#feedback mentioning cats without picture 0/10
I find it troubling his cat wears pants
@JJsatonanL Important catch! A lawyer in the making right here ;p <3
Why is milk the object. More accurately, why is the predicate object important? Isn't "The cat likes to drink" sufficient and then (fermented) milk is the modifier? #help
#help I am also wondering on the same example why "the cat likes to drink" is not sufficient
I was curious about this as well!
#help
me too! #help
Also curious about this! #help
I thought of it as "the cat drinks milk" because within the predicate, "drinks" acts as the verb and milk as the object. The object is the thing that the verb (drinking) acts upon (milk). So ask yourself in your case, "What is a valid kernel of a sentence, in which the purpose of the sentence is still met?" I think yours is a little too abstract of a kernel. Your kernel should be a clear rundown of the sentence. I also see "like" as a modifier of "drinking" instead of a verb replacement because what if the cat hates drinking milk? Or what if he is neutral about it? You have to be open-minded when selecting your subject+predicate.
"The cat likes to drink" also doesn't provide the specifics and direction of the stimulus. It leaves you with an open-ended sentence, which I believe isn't optimal when breaking down the sentence. I hope that makes sense.
Hello everyone! This is a bad example, but there is an answer. Every word in every sentence has rules it needs to follow. For this sentence "The cat likes to drink" would be sufficient since not every sentence has an object.
I hit.
I hit him.
I like to hit him.
I like to hit him in his face.
Here, I changed the verb from "hit" in the first two, to "like", or rather, "like to hit" in the latter. (this is why I don't like this example: he uses "likes to drink" as the verb, rather than just one word.)
In all of my examples except the first, though, "him" is still getting punched, no matter what, and we are committed to it and can't change it. And then, in the last, "in his face" is just modifying where I'm hitting "him".
same! #help
Same! #help
My best guess is that like functions as a modifier for drink, so it wouldn't be sufficient. The sentence is trying to convey what the cat drinks, as opposed to what the cat likes. I hope that helps!
Does your cat wear pants?
Your cat wears pants?
idk if this will help any of y'all but this is how I sorted it:
The cat that I brought home from the shelter in the middle of the village where a merchant was murdered on the only snowy day last year likes to drink fermented milk from the Swedish cow that we imported from Austria at considerable expense.
Subject noun: the cat
What about the cat: that i brought home
Where did you bring the cat home from? The shelter
Where was the shelter? In the middle of the village
What about the village: where a merchant was murdered
When was the merchant murdered: on the only snowy day last year
Preciate verb: drinks
Object: milk
What kind of milk: fermented milk
Any fermented milk: from the swedish cow
Any swedish cow?: that we imported from austria
Was it cheap or expensive?: at a considerable expense
Kernel: the cat drinks milk.
@_seb thats what I got too - also couldn't the word "like" be a modifier in likes to drink milk? Really it is just cat drinks milk - liking to drink milk being a modifier...
@_seb I'm definitely using this idea, thanks for sharing.
this lesson is hard lol anyone else struggling?
that cat is boujee
The last example, couldn't milk be considered a modifier of to drink? It answers the question what does the cat likes to drink, so couldn't it be broken down to simply be saying "the cat likes to drink."
@JimMcEnulty thats what I thought, but take a look at the "modiefiers in thesubject" video. It has a tree that makes it clear milk is part of the predicate because it is an object modifying the verb.
That makes sense.
Is there any validity to thinking that "Milk" modifies drink?
the cat likes to drink is a complete thought, followed by what he likes to drink, milk. therefore milk modifies drink.
I had the same thought. I'm having a tough time figuring out when there is an "object" in the predicate v. when the would-be object is simply a modifier.
From prior knowledge, I am not sure if this helps in your understanding, I know that the "object" receives the action of the verb. So, in that case, when you figure out what the verb of the sentence is, see if there is a word or phrase that the verb is directly or indirectly affecting. If the verb is "drinks" ask yourself what is being drank in the sentence. If it is "milk" then, milk is the direct object of the verb. Not sure if that helps!
I came here to ask the same question. It very much seems like 'milk' would be a modifier based on previous examples.
But "the cat likes to drink" is a full sentence. Similar to "the cat sings". In the previous lessons it was also stated that a predicate MUST contain a verb but CAN contain a noun.
I see what you're saying. But even if you remove "likes" and replace it with "drinks"; "the cat drinks" is still a full sentence with a subject and a predicate.
Commenting here cause same doubt
I immediately had the same thoughts. In the example "The cat sings" he did not include the direct object as part of the kernel.
fam like what
@YanjananiMwape LMAO nah fr
Shouldnt the last one be "the cat likes to drink"? Saying "drinks milk" would be more specific and adding information that would come with the questions like "what does the cat like to drink?"
@GDatria715 ^^
why isn't milk a modifier, for example the cat like to drink. Then the cat likes to drink what--- Milk. What kind of milk and so on
@JacksonHolt In this case, "milk" is an object, which is part of the predicate. It doesn't directly modify anything, so much as "answer a question" indirectly posed by the verb (either receiving or being affected by the action).
In your example, "the cat like(s) to drink milk," The subject and verb together ("the cat likes to drink") form a complete sentence, but it really only makes sense because we understand "likes to drink" figuratively as "likes to drink alcohol." We may be concerned for the cat's mental health and wellbeing.
Taken literally, "the cat likes to drink" needs to answer a question to get its barebones point across. What does the cat like to drink? Milk.
If you can answer a question about the basic subject-verb phrase in that way with a noun (or noun phrase) in the sentence, it's an object.
@DocRieux Could we conclude "to drink" cannot be the object, because in this sentence drink is being used as a verb rather than a noun?
The way I understood the Scorsese sentence is similar to a reaction video to a reaction video of an apology video.
@ChrisOsgood lol when youtubers make a living on making a video on their reactions to tiktoks.
@J.Y, your cat wears pants?
@FantasticExpansiveMoney I checked the comments just for this
Cats don't wear pants
this is the worst lesson ever. i learned nothing cuz my brain hurts ;( SOBBING
bruh
This made my brain hurt haha
Yeah this lesson is really not clocking for me
the modifiers just kept going lmaooo
lmao I said the same thing
The Exhibit meme made me laugh and snort haha. Thank you for that.
why isn't it the cat likes milk
@WeepingWillow because the verb is also drinking. The cat doesn’t just like milk, it likes to drink milk.
@WeepingWillow I guess we actually don't know if the cat likes milk.
I thought this too, but based on the text we only know that the cat likes to drink milk. It is possible (although unlikley) that the cat likes to drink milk, but does not like milk. We don't know anything about if the cat actually likes milk itself, but just the act of drinking it.
why wouldn't milk be a modifer of "likes to drink"?
@iynur milk in this case is the object of "drink," in that in names the thing being drunk rather than just describing the drinking. It answers the "drink what?" Modifiers as we have seen by contrast are just describing which is why they are unnecessary for a cohesive sentence.