also how is "it" a referential, because when you plug "keeping deep woulds free of bacteria" in for the word it, that doesn't make any sense. can anybody explain this?
I was totally overthinking the last problem because I was only getting half right for the others, so I thought the last question also had "one" and "oneself" as referents for "the person making the jokes"
Do referential phrases only refer to what has been said in the sentences so far? For example, in question 2, would "the coloring" not be a referential phrase because there is not a direct pointing to it in the sentence.
@GabrielleD "the coloring" would be a referential to something about the coloring if it talked about the coloring in one of the previous sentences, we just don't have that sentence. Other examples shown do have referentials to previous sentences. Taking the sentence on face value we just have to assume it means whatever coloring is done to lemon soda, as we don't have any details about this coloring.
Unsure of why "it" is considered a referential for question 1, and the video does not consider it. If we plugged in "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria" in the sentence, it would read "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria is difficult to keep deep wounds free of bacteria." I know "it" can function as a referential pronoun but it does not appear to be doing so here.
So on some i identified all the referential terms. On none I identified the but not the other. and in another one i identified the all the terms but also selected an additional term that was not a referential... im giving myself a 3.5/5. Definetly need to practice!
I did swimmingly on the previous sections, these sections, however, have absolutely been kicking me, I got a lot better at the end of this exercise, and I found that the best way to cover myself is to write down every referent. I found that I rarely mixed up modifiers and referents. But I also think it would help me greatly to write these out.
I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to let 7sage know the video and written answers don't match? Question 1 gives 2 referential (it and such wounds) and the video gives one (such wounds).
OOOOOH, I am so thankful for this lesson. I have been studying for the LSAT for about a year now, and didn't even realize I was making this mistake until just now.
For question 2, I thought "their" refers to only "most consumers". It actually refers to the whole phrase---"most consumers of lemon soda". Paying attention to the modifier is so important. "Most consumers" is NOT the same thing as "most consumers of lemon soda". This refers to 2 different groups of people! "Most consumers of lemon soda" is a subset of "most consumers".
I think my main takeaway from this exercise is not to get every detail perfect (i.e. not identifying every single referential / pronouns / etc.) but to get accustomed to seeing how they are interwoven in COMPLEX ways into sentences.
A big part of the test seems to be knowing how and in what ways they are going to try and trap us or mix us up.
Q1 is just plain wrong in the written explanation. Even if "It" could be defined to be a referential phrase, it is not at all referring to "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria". It is, in a sense, a "dummy" pronoun used to fill the gap of needing a subject for the sentence. It doesn't refer to anything, but rather is just a placeholder. Using JY's logic expressed in past explanations, replacing "It" with "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria" would yield this sentence: "Keeping deep wounds free of bacteria is difficult to keep deep wounds free of bacteria", which makes no sense. Also, "that" is another referential phrase that is not identified within Q1.
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Last one got me lol. 4/5.
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also how is "it" a referential, because when you plug "keeping deep woulds free of bacteria" in for the word it, that doesn't make any sense. can anybody explain this?
@AlenaKane also the internet says that "it" is not a referential in this sentence?
@AlenaKane I was confused as well, in fact in the video lesson he does not mention this in his answer
I was totally overthinking the last problem because I was only getting half right for the others, so I thought the last question also had "one" and "oneself" as referents for "the person making the jokes"
Not sticking with my brain rn idk why
Do referential phrases only refer to what has been said in the sentences so far? For example, in question 2, would "the coloring" not be a referential phrase because there is not a direct pointing to it in the sentence.
@GabrielleD "the coloring" would be a referential to something about the coloring if it talked about the coloring in one of the previous sentences, we just don't have that sentence. Other examples shown do have referentials to previous sentences. Taking the sentence on face value we just have to assume it means whatever coloring is done to lemon soda, as we don't have any details about this coloring.
@ChristianSandlin Thank you!
Is it just me or does sentence 2 make no sense to you as well?
Unsure of why "it" is considered a referential for question 1, and the video does not consider it. If we plugged in "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria" in the sentence, it would read "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria is difficult to keep deep wounds free of bacteria." I know "it" can function as a referential pronoun but it does not appear to be doing so here.
@CarolineHaskins I agree with this, I thought that makes no sense
So on some i identified all the referential terms. On none I identified the but not the other. and in another one i identified the all the terms but also selected an additional term that was not a referential... im giving myself a 3.5/5. Definetly need to practice!
Finally, something I understand. :)
I did swimmingly on the previous sections, these sections, however, have absolutely been kicking me, I got a lot better at the end of this exercise, and I found that the best way to cover myself is to write down every referent. I found that I rarely mixed up modifiers and referents. But I also think it would help me greatly to write these out.
@Chair-samaII Definitely! the last sections were easy to fly by but i choked on Referentials!
I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to let 7sage know the video and written answers don't match? Question 1 gives 2 referential (it and such wounds) and the video gives one (such wounds).
i could be wrong, but i feel like referentials isnt that important
NUTS only 4/5. I thought Q4 was a trick question without referentials. Overthought again.
I thought I was lost but turn out I'm not that lost lol 4/5
OOOOOH, I am so thankful for this lesson. I have been studying for the LSAT for about a year now, and didn't even realize I was making this mistake until just now.
For question 2, I thought "their" refers to only "most consumers". It actually refers to the whole phrase---"most consumers of lemon soda". Paying attention to the modifier is so important. "Most consumers" is NOT the same thing as "most consumers of lemon soda". This refers to 2 different groups of people! "Most consumers of lemon soda" is a subset of "most consumers".
Yay!
We got this
rip to my practice test
this was so confusing.
@leilei Right, I'm getting it but only half way
I think my main takeaway from this exercise is not to get every detail perfect (i.e. not identifying every single referential / pronouns / etc.) but to get accustomed to seeing how they are interwoven in COMPLEX ways into sentences.
A big part of the test seems to be knowing how and in what ways they are going to try and trap us or mix us up.
@AlexB33 I agree, most of the answers can be debated for longer than it would take to simply identify the theme and message of the phrase.
For 3, wouldn’t the first referential be “successful economies” not just “economies”
@dancingqueen138 no, because it's the economies that train as many people as possible... that are the most successful
Q1 is just plain wrong in the written explanation. Even if "It" could be defined to be a referential phrase, it is not at all referring to "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria". It is, in a sense, a "dummy" pronoun used to fill the gap of needing a subject for the sentence. It doesn't refer to anything, but rather is just a placeholder. Using JY's logic expressed in past explanations, replacing "It" with "keeping deep wounds free of bacteria" would yield this sentence: "Keeping deep wounds free of bacteria is difficult to keep deep wounds free of bacteria", which makes no sense. Also, "that" is another referential phrase that is not identified within Q1.
@S123L123 In Q1, what makes "that" a referential phrase instead of a modifier?
I notice that I get part of the answer and miss the others in each question.
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