why cant the real lsat have br, so if u frick it up the first time u have a second shot. IM PRETTY SURE MEDIEVAL GLASS ISNT GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER IM A GOOD LAWYER OR NOT
My problem with this question is that the passage never actually tells us what happens if we are WITHIN the transition temperature RANGE. D says what will happen if it is heated to its glass transition temperature. But what does that mean? The upper end of the range, or the lower end of the range? We know that, above the range entirely, we are a liquid; this is pretty reasonable to interpret based on the information in the passage. But above the lower end (and below the upper end) of the transition temperature, we are in the transition range and the passage doesn't tell us what behavior is like at all! I feel like the wording in the answer choices is too ambiguous. The passage clearly treats the transition temperature as a range (it says that glass takes on the physical properties of a solid below the LOWER END of this range), but the answer choices don't reflect this nuance whatsoever.
I'm starting to see the benefit of ctrl+f, low res summary is great at retaining info efficiently, but questions like this require attention to details. We cannot remember every single detail obviously, so, by eliminating the wrong ones, we must ctrl+f for such questions, and get info needed for securing the right answer
@180forLSAT190forbf Yes, I've started doing the very same! Actually, it's been so useful for me that it's almost felt like cheating, so I Googled if we're allowed to use Ctrl + F on the official LSAT. As it turns out, the Ctrl + F built into our browsers are actually disabled during the test; instead, we're expected to use the search built into the LSAT test page. As far as I can tell, it works and even highlights the exact same as Chrome's Ctrl + F, so it doesn't feel any different. So, make sure you're practicing using the built-in search, so you can emulate the exact test-taking experience!
D doesn't feel right to me because it is making the assumption that 350 degrees is in the range of transition temperature - how am I supposed to know that from the passage alone?
Also, the passage does talk about what would happen if the temperature is lower than the transition temp range, but never talks about what happens when the temperature actually reaches the transition temp.
@jess.zzz Where in the passage or question does it mention 350?
What we know from the passge is that molten glass turns to a solid at its transition temp. So if we heat solid glass to the transition temp, it becomes molten and can flow as a liquid, under its own weight.
"Glass will..."
D - flow downward under its own weight if it is heated to its glass transition temperature.
D is correct. The passage does suggest/imply that that will happen.
AC A is incorrect because glass takes on the physical properties of a solid below its transition temp.
AC B is incorrect because the passage states based on calculations that it would take an incredibly long time for glass to flow that much, not just millenia.
AC C is incorrect because glass will not behave as a solid EVEN above its transition temp. It will become molten.
AC E is incorrect because glass does, for all intents and purposes, stop flowing even without being in a fixed crystal structure.
@jess.zzz I had the same thought and that's why I didn't pick D. I saw 350 degrees C but also wasn't sure if it was "right" to assume that temperature as the transition temperature. I understand why the other answer choices are wrong though so I think this is unfortunately one of those questions where the correct answer is just the one that is "most right" even if it's not completely correct
when they say "under its own weight" what are they referring to in D? I thought it couldn't flow under its own weight? Or is that part irrelevant because we are using the sufficient condition that it has been heated to its glass transition temperature?
@acatinthehat this is referring to the sentence in paragraph 2 that states "under the force of gravity....". I'm not a science person at all, but gravity does tend to weigh things down, so when the answer choice says "under its own weight", it's referring to the force of gravity pulling it down.
Knowing a bit of background about glass blowing REALLY helped answering this question - D felt like the obvious choice bc of course when glass is heated to its transition temp (when it turns into a liquid most likely) it would start to become liquid and therefore flow. Recommending the show Blown Away on Netflix for help visualizing this ahaha
i was down to A, C and D. chose C initially and then really dove deep in BR where i came down to A and D, felt like A was better because i dont see where it talks about the weight.......
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Gonna take a break, listen to some Slowdive.
why cant the real lsat have br, so if u frick it up the first time u have a second shot. IM PRETTY SURE MEDIEVAL GLASS ISNT GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER IM A GOOD LAWYER OR NOT
@AliaAli adjusts pretty girl lawyer suit sorry u had to see that everybody... high heels clicks as i walk away dramatically from this question
what the f
oh, ok
My problem with this question is that the passage never actually tells us what happens if we are WITHIN the transition temperature RANGE. D says what will happen if it is heated to its glass transition temperature. But what does that mean? The upper end of the range, or the lower end of the range? We know that, above the range entirely, we are a liquid; this is pretty reasonable to interpret based on the information in the passage. But above the lower end (and below the upper end) of the transition temperature, we are in the transition range and the passage doesn't tell us what behavior is like at all! I feel like the wording in the answer choices is too ambiguous. The passage clearly treats the transition temperature as a range (it says that glass takes on the physical properties of a solid below the LOWER END of this range), but the answer choices don't reflect this nuance whatsoever.
And i was doing so (kind of) well...
"and then they justified D as the answer"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Just vote
did netanyahu write this question
this might be the worst question ever conjured
Difficulty level = 6/5
I'm starting to see the benefit of ctrl+f, low res summary is great at retaining info efficiently, but questions like this require attention to details. We cannot remember every single detail obviously, so, by eliminating the wrong ones, we must ctrl+f for such questions, and get info needed for securing the right answer
@180forLSAT190forbf Yes, I've started doing the very same! Actually, it's been so useful for me that it's almost felt like cheating, so I Googled if we're allowed to use Ctrl + F on the official LSAT. As it turns out, the Ctrl + F built into our browsers are actually disabled during the test; instead, we're expected to use the search built into the LSAT test page. As far as I can tell, it works and even highlights the exact same as Chrome's Ctrl + F, so it doesn't feel any different. So, make sure you're practicing using the built-in search, so you can emulate the exact test-taking experience!
D doesn't feel right to me because it is making the assumption that 350 degrees is in the range of transition temperature - how am I supposed to know that from the passage alone?
Also, the passage does talk about what would happen if the temperature is lower than the transition temp range, but never talks about what happens when the temperature actually reaches the transition temp.
@jess.zzz Where in the passage or question does it mention 350?
What we know from the passge is that molten glass turns to a solid at its transition temp. So if we heat solid glass to the transition temp, it becomes molten and can flow as a liquid, under its own weight.
"Glass will..."
D - flow downward under its own weight if it is heated to its glass transition temperature.
D is correct. The passage does suggest/imply that that will happen.
AC A is incorrect because glass takes on the physical properties of a solid below its transition temp.
AC B is incorrect because the passage states based on calculations that it would take an incredibly long time for glass to flow that much, not just millenia.
AC C is incorrect because glass will not behave as a solid EVEN above its transition temp. It will become molten.
AC E is incorrect because glass does, for all intents and purposes, stop flowing even without being in a fixed crystal structure.
@jess.zzz I had the same thought and that's why I didn't pick D. I saw 350 degrees C but also wasn't sure if it was "right" to assume that temperature as the transition temperature. I understand why the other answer choices are wrong though so I think this is unfortunately one of those questions where the correct answer is just the one that is "most right" even if it's not completely correct
Gotta give myself props for this one. I'm not great with RC, but nailed this in 0:44. There is hope!
Lol I fell for both A & C
enuff
lmao nah
when they say "under its own weight" what are they referring to in D? I thought it couldn't flow under its own weight? Or is that part irrelevant because we are using the sufficient condition that it has been heated to its glass transition temperature?
@acatinthehat this is referring to the sentence in paragraph 2 that states "under the force of gravity....". I'm not a science person at all, but gravity does tend to weigh things down, so when the answer choice says "under its own weight", it's referring to the force of gravity pulling it down.
Knowing a bit of background about glass blowing REALLY helped answering this question - D felt like the obvious choice bc of course when glass is heated to its transition temp (when it turns into a liquid most likely) it would start to become liquid and therefore flow. Recommending the show Blown Away on Netflix for help visualizing this ahaha
i was down to A, C and D. chose C initially and then really dove deep in BR where i came down to A and D, felt like A was better because i dont see where it talks about the weight.......
in what world would i get this under 1:10
That was genuinely the hardest question I've had in the 4 months I've been doing LSAT stuff