I want to express a deep sense of thanks to 7Sage for helping me get to a 174! I took the LSAT twice, the first time I received a 138, and right after that I found 7Sage! I am deeply indebted to everyone here, including my fellow 7Sagers who would comment and share their ideas via posts that helped me immensely.

I have learnt a lot and the Core Curriculum is so well designed!

Thank you everyone! And good luck on your LSAT journey.

Hi,

I know the Personal Statement for almost anywhere is required to be double spaced. I was just wondering if other essays like addendums and diversity statements also had to be double spaced? I know they are supposed to be shorter but a single page double spaced is not enough to really show anything unique.

Thanks in advance!

I know this is ridiculous because I've often been the person here who has given advice with regards to such type of questions, but now erroneously I am in the position to ask for it. I would still appreciate your help.

I've been averaging at around 174 among all PT's I've taken, and during the last 5 or so PTs I was able to hit a 180 and a 176. I had the suspicion that there might be an inflation because I had seen the vast majority of the PT's I've done before, however it was 1-1.5 years ago (I basically did non-serious on- and off- studying from late 2019 to May 2020, fully stopped and re-started in May 2021) and I honestly did not consciously remember any (!) of the questions - that feeling got corroborated when I simulated PT91 (100% fresh) on LawHub and scored a 173, which was within the range of my other scores (and honestly, it did not feel different from all other PTs I had taken).

I took the January International LSAT, and it did not feel significantly different from any other PT I've done (I was able to control the increased level of nervousness due to knowing that this is the real LSAT). However, I received my score yesterday which was a 168, and spent the whole day crying and vomiting (I wish I were kidding...). I never scored a 168 since re-starting prep in May (I can send you my personal PT excel file if you do not believe me)...

Before getting my mind clear, registering for June LSAT and using the weekend to think about an action plan, I would like to ask whether it makes sense now to apply to the Law Schools I planned to (these are Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, University of Chicago - no other schools, for personal reasons).

Things considering rn:

I often read here and on reddit that your chances are zero if LSAT is below last year's medians, however e.g. Harvard's 25th percentile score was 170, means that 25% of those admitted scored 170 or lower. Means to me that there is a realistic chance that there were at least some people with my score who got admitted.

It's February, admittedly very late, not sure how much of an impact that has (some say marginal, some say chances are 0).

Everything is set up for application, I paid here $600 for editing my Personal statement + diversity statement, for both I got verified by the editors that they are ready for submission now.

I can apply up to 3 times to each law school, however the thought of the miracle happening and thus not having to deal with LSAT anymore (i.e. getting accepted to one of those schools despite my weak LSAT score) is enticing.

No URM, however stellar CV and background interesting enough to write a diversity statement.

Bonus question:

After the 10 min break of the LSAT exam, I got another proctor. For some reason, the proctoring system kept calling my screen, there was no button where I could pick up and the new proctor was apparently so unfamiliar with the system that she could not make it stop - and instead of being able to calm down before the 2nd half of the exam, I was forced to listen to this annoying sound.

Furthermore, during the last 2-3 min of my LG section, it showed me that there was a connection issue for 5 sec or so, and suddenly it automatically switched to another window. I spent 30-60 sec yelling at the proctors to either stop the time or bring me back to the exam, when I suddenly realized that the exam window was still open and I was able to switch back to the exam simply with my mouse - I know that I could have realized it earlier/immediately, but, I mean, I was taking a very important exam at that moment...

At the end, I was luckily able to finish the LG questions, however: are these sufficient reasons to make this exam not count towards any limit (e.g. one can take the exam 3x in a testing year, 5x in 5 years and 7x over a lifetime, or sth like that) without being cancelled? This was the 4th time I took the LSAT, one of them though does not count because it was a Flex in summer 2020 (two of the scores are cancelled btw.).

Thanks.

The title says it all really. I have already taken the LSAT twice in February and April of 2021 (first at 158 second at 159).I have been accepted at 2 schools and waitlisted at 2 in this cycle. I applied during the priority binding decision deadline at my number 1 school and was waitlisted there. Of the 2 schools who have accepted me 1 gave me a half off tuition scholarship and the other did not give me any scholarship. So my question is, should I retake the LSAT in April or push it back until June? I am worried that April won't be enough time to insure that I raise my score to my desired 165 range. But I am also worried that if I push it off until June I will be too late in the cycle for it to matter if I improve my score. My goal is either: to be removed and admitted from the waitlist at my number 1 school, or to be given a scholarship at the one that did not give me one (its in my hometown so I would not have to move). Any information or thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

I just got accepted yesterday!!! Thanks 7Sage

which school and when? Also any international applicant specifically who has received a response?

Hi I have a question...there's a school that I am applying to that says I must include any violation of the law EXCEPT those that were expunged and there's another school that says include any violation including those that were expunged.

In 2016 I got a citation for possession of alcohol that was expunged.

If I include an addendum for one school, but not the other, how will this affect me in the long run with the bar and in general with applications? Should I include it with all of my schools? I plan to practice in PA or NJ if possible.

Hi,

I have a question about how the LSAC would handle LORs in my circumstances. My current timetable is to graduate undergrad May 2023, submit apps ~Fall 2024, matriculate in Fall 2025. My question is can I receive a letter of recommendation, have my recommender upload it to LSAC say around Fall 2022, and then wait to use that letter for the Fall 2024 application cycle. Or would I need to receive, upload and submit a letter of recommendation a set certain amount of time before my desired application cycle?

Naturally, I would think that (most) recommenders would be able to provide a more descriptive, elaborate recommendation fresh off of my experience with them, whether it be in a course or a research project, etc, so that's why I would think to acquire these letters as early as I can, have them sit in the LSAC LOR account for a few years, and send them out with my application when its time. Is there a flaw in my reasoning here/ is this possible?

I’d appreciate any help, and am glad to provide clarification on my situation.

Thanks!

I am filling out the general scholarship application form for Texas Law and they ask "Please state any special, personal, or family circumstances that affect your need for financial support." This is a required short answer question. Any advice for filling out this question? I am not a first generation student or in any sort of unique circumstance, but I also do not have enough money saved for law school and am trying to avoid serious debt.

Hey everyone,

I'v read here that some people send in their applications in order to meet the deadline, but before receiving their LSAT score. Is this possible? Will it hurt my chances in getting in? How do I make sure that they know not to make a decision before they receive my score? Will I even be able to submit the application without the score?

Pleased Advise

Some law schools I am applying are also schools I applied for undergrad. I am considering reusing my undergrad personal statement for diversity statement. Does anyone know if law school admissions check undergrad apps or it's going to disadvantage me by doing so?

I got with a "HOLD" yesterday morning from a school I am interested in. No other information other than saying they have reviewed my file once but have not made a decision yet - accept, deny, or WL.

I've heard mixed responses. Some people say to send an LOCI and others say to not do anything to not burden law school officers with more materials.

I have no idea what the best thing to do is. Should I send an LOCI or should I sit down and do nothing?

If someone updated to current application cycle in their CRS recently 1 week ago, then how long after can they expect CRS application fee-waivers from T14? How long does it take for CRS fee-waiver to trigger?

I mistakenly didn't update CRS app cycle until last week, and plan to apply to a few schools in T14 that are known to give out fee-waiver from CRS. Should one hold out for waiver or at this late in the cycle CRS doesn't do it?

I recently received a full tuition scholarship at a school I plan on attending. While I feel incredibly fortunate, I have been concerned about living expenses while in school. For background, I am a non-traditional student, already working for 8 years and am now going back to school. My wife and I would move from dual income to solo income on a teacher's salary.

My question is: what are my options (other than loans) to help with living expenses and other law school fees/computer/books? I am having a hard time finding scholarships that are not for tuition - most are saying they send money directly to the school. I have also reached out to the school, but they are not willing to provide for those other expenses. I understand living frugal and making sure I have some money saved up to tide my wife and I over until I can hopefully get a part time job in 2L, but at this stage in my life, I really want to avoid taking out loans if possible. Any advice on where to look for this type of financial aid? Does it exist?

Hello 7 Sagers. I am a super splitter, who is banking on my essays to seal the deal. That being said, in order to write a strong Why essay for these schools, I would love to get in contact with any current students you all know from the following schools: Stanford, Harvard, UChicago, UC Berkley, UPenn, NYU, Columbia, Yale, Duke, UMich. Thank you in advance. #help

What is an ideal timeline for 2023 applicants? I registered my first LSAT in April...

Hi everyone! I know this question gets thrown around on the forum sometimes, but I'd love some clarity when it comes to bettering one's chances of admission from a timeline perspective as well as receiving adequate aid.

With that being said, what is considered pretty late? If one were to take the October or November LSAT, is applying soon after considered late? Appreciate everyone's thoughts.

I already submitted my applications with an LSAT score already on file, but now I'm considering signing up for a future LSAT to improve my score. Will applications that are already marked "complete" still be considered even though I have an upcoming test date on file or will they put me on hold? Is this something I need to email the admissions office about?

A professor kindly submitted a LOR for me through LSAC on 12/16. The status changed from requested to received. I've checked in around 1/4 and the status had once again changed from received to requested. I've talked with LSAC and they are just asking that I request for the Professor to submit the LOR again. Has this happen to anyone else? LSAC has not been of much help in this process at all.

I just wanted to log back onto 7Sage after several months (I took my last test in October) to thank JY and the 7Sage community for everything it has given me. This website helped me raise my LSAT score by 10 points and undoubtedly is a huge factor in my success this cycle. I applied to 18 schools and I've been accepted to 6 of them (including a T30 and 2 full rides in the T50). I've also been deferred at my #1 of GULC (fingers crossed for me) and I have high hopes for the remaining schools. I never thought I would make it to this point until I found 7Sage and finally started to understand my own learning process. Thank you everyone and good luck to everyone who is still studying for the LSAT! You got this!

I couldn't apply earlier this cycle due to a variety of personal reasons.

I was planning to apply to extreme reaches for me at HLS and a few other T6.

This is the last cycle I can apply before my LSAT score expires.

It's 171 from Sep-2016 and valid by LSAC only till this cycle.

Is it worth to apply this late at HLS?

I saw they have a deadline of Mar-1st, which makes it looks like there is still time to go and that they expect some applications to trickle even in Feb, or why would they have such a late deadline. (i may be wrong but iirc they used to have Feb1st as deadline).

How much of a difference is in applying now vs early Sep/Oct in the cycle?

Looks like Columbia only considers score from LSAT taken after Jun-2017 as valid for this cycle.

This is a big difference than ALL T14 schools and LSAC itself that considers any score from June-2016 or after as "valid" for current cycle. (The rule is score has to be within 5 years prior to current cycle so that makes anything after June-2016 as valid).

I'm at the margin with a lsat score from Fall-2016 and was planning to apply.

Anyone with experience with this situation?

Hi, I applied to schools and September and wondering if a LOCI would do anything at this point considering i haven't heard back in 3 months. Or are LOCI only for waitlist.

I sent all my applications in December, and I've received 2 WL so far (albeit they were reach schools). The other 10 target schools are pending a decision, and I wondered if it's too late to send additional material like a diversity statement to help with my application? I just thought of an excellent topic for my diversity statement and am unsure if sending it will be beneficial for my application. (I also feel very sure that this statement is much stronger than my personal statement, I just regret not thinking about this topic back then).

If it's not ideal for sending a diversity statement now, should I wait until I get WL to send the diversity statement along with a LOCI? Or am I just too late?

Hello 7sage family,

I am curious to know if anyone has information on how masters degrees are evaluated in terms of applying to law schools? Being a student who graduated with a bachelors gpa of 3.5 and two masters degrees with 4.0s, one of which is a masters in legal studies from usc, do masters degrees give an upper hand (in any way) to a student applying in the law school admissions cycle? If yes, how much would it be? If no, what are the reasons for them to not be counted?