Can someone point me in the right direction for finding an online tutor? Thanks

So I just finished the logical reasoning curriculum and decided to do just the times logical reasoning sections of a practice test. Just got -23 which is no where near where I want to be and I am not even sure where to go from here.

Hi everyone,

I just started studying for the LSAT this week and plan to apply for Fall 2023 admission. The schools I'm applying to have an app deadline of March 1 or later so the Feb LSAT test will be valid. However, I am wondering when I should take the LSAT - Jan and Feb or Jan or Feb. If the latter, which month would be best? If I take it in Feb, I will have 1 more month to study but that's my only chance. If my Feb score isn't great, I will have to wait to apply for the following school year. If I take it in Jan, I can take the LSAT in Febif my score is not what I want (but I do not want to drain my brain out too and get a bad score). My undergrad GPA is low (graduated in 2016) so it's vital to have a high LSAT score. Any inputs on my dilemma?

If this is my first ever diagnostic exam of the LSAT, should I really do the BR, since I have yet to finish some of the core lessons. I have already started the BR, but I feel it’s not helpful because some questions I am just not sure about. I can’t really do the BR for it if I haven’t even understood the lesson yet.

I am currently PTing around 160 but I think the most important for me is to help each other stay motivated via healthy discussion and competition. I want to apply this cycle so I have registered for Oct. and Nov. LSAT. Don't mind becoming best friends along the way at all :)

here in the home stretch to Oct and wondering at what point the advantage of seeing "new" material bumps up against the ability to review old material and the necessity to have a little bit of a breather the day before.

Hi everyone!

Can anyone recommend lsat podcast that I could listen to when working out? I just signed up 2 days ago to start studying so I’m seeking something related to beginner stage foundation building or question types or lectures. I’m more attentive when I’m listening while working out (don’t know how)

So far I only found introductory test taking or college admissions related podcast.

As for my 7Sage material I’m using that more for sit down heads down study sessions

Thank you!

Hello,

I am just wondering where the spell check function is on the lsat writing interface? Also, I am wondering you copy and paste? I just wrote it and neither worked for me, although they work via my keyboard and automatically during the practice test.

Curious to see the best RC tips out there!

Bold your tip at the very top.

Also, let’s shoot for short explanations!

Stick to one tip per post, if you have multiple tips, create multiple posts!

So I recently started taking on the PTs in the 80s to practice the more recent content in preparation for October. I started with PT83 earlier this week and took PT84 today. Here are the breakdowns:

PT83: 152 (BR: 161)

RC: -8

LG: -8

LR: -15

PT84: 159 (BR: 161)

RC: -7

LG: -8

LR: -6

So the huge score jump is clearly justified completely by me getting destroyed on LR on PT83 while doing much better on PT84 LR. However, this inconsistency worries me. Does anyone know if PT83 LR was just ridiculously hard or was PT84 LR much easier??

In addition, with 3 weeks until my October LSAT, is there any hope left for me improving LG? I’ve scored exactly and I mean exactly -8 on my last 3 PTs. Mostly because I RUSH like crazy just to be able to get to the 4th game. Is there any hope for me on LG with 3 short weeks left? Thank you for your time!

I'm confused when it comes to the best way to take older prep tests: simulate modern vs. don't simulate. The old tests had two LR sections, which isn't representative anymore except that it provides a four-section experience, thereby helping test-takers when it comes to training our stamina for the actual test. However, taking a 3-section test also isn't really representative because the actual test will have an experimental section. I'm also concerned that by cutting out the second LR section, the final score will be skewed. For example, the last test I took I did both LR sections. One I got -2 and the other I got -7! If the -7 section had been cut, my score would have been boosted significantly, possibly leading to a false sense of progress. How does 7Sage determine which LR section to cut?

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Hey guys, I studied and took LSAT last year when LSAT-Flex was still in effect. I'm retaking it this year and learnt that LSAT now has four sections, three plus an experimental one. I wanna ask whats the best way to simulate this kind of tests when PTing— do u guys do three sections or four sections? Is doing three sections more reflective of your actual score?

At the beginning of my studying I was testing using PTs from mostly the 50s and 60s. As I'm nearing the October test date and taking more recent exams, my score had been going down - from around 172 consistently to around 168 off-and-on in PTs from the mid-80s. Anybody have any advice on why this might be or how to fix this? It doesn't seem to be any one section that is falling in particular

Hi -- I often study logic games by doing a timed section from a prep test using the drill feature. The drill feature seems to scramble the order of the games, but I'd really like to intentionally order them how they would appear on the test. It throws me off when the hardest game is the second game and the easiest is last. Is there a way to do this?

Hi everyone, I need some advice.

I am currently registered to take the October and November LSAT. My issue is that with the October LSAT being a few weeks away, I feel like I am nowhere near where I wanna be in PT's. The October would be my first time taking it. My thought process was to just take the October test to practice run a real exam and have November as my more relaxed test. However, I now feel like I am not prepared for October at all and am debating just taking the November exam. I'm worried that I will freeze up during the November one and not be able to take the test again until January (I wanted to have all my apps in by end of November). Any advice on what I should do? Feeling discouraged :(

Hello,

I am planning on taking the January LSAT (maybe even the November test) and was hoping to gather some suggestions on how to approach prep testing. I am striving for a 170+ score.

I am finished with the core curriculum and my study schedule is as follows:

Monday-Thursday: At least 3 hours of study time daily (enough time set aside in the mornings to do a prep test)

Friday-Sunday: At least 5 hours of study time daily

Here are some of my thoughts/concerns:

I am looking to get a 170+ on the LSAT so I want to be as rigorous as I can be with my prep; however, I understand the test has gone through some changes over the years and would rather not focus too much of my efforts on material that is unlikely to help with solidifying a top score in the current LSAT era. What resources are out there that help guide current LSAT preppers to material that has been more prevalent on current tests vs material that is antiquated/unrepresentative of the current tests?

On the other hand, I am worried that if I focus too much of my efforts on the newer prep tests I will be eliminating valuable opportunities to take them closer to test day to have a better feel for the current test and a rough idea of where I stand to land score-wise.

I'm also thinking I'd like to add the November test to my plan just so that I have two opportunities to get a top score for this admissions cycle. If I do, I have to sign up by the 29th of this month and would have about 8 weeks to run through prep tests prior to exam day. I realize I will be better prepared come January, but also acknowledge that anything can happen come test day and would rather not have all of my eggs in one basket.

Anyone who has been prepping at or scored an actual 170+ on the LSAT: What prep testing "technique" was successful for you?

Please feel free to elaborate beyond what I have outlined above and to freely riff on anything additional you think might be helpful to others who find this thread.

All the best and good luck!

Brian

Hi all:

I just took my LSAT Writing Sample and, though it went well, I am concerned about the formatting in the interface. As I was writing, I was able to skip a line between each paragraph. However, when the submission screen showed me my essay, the skipped lines were gone so that it seemed like a block of text. It still needs to be processed, so I am wondering if anyone has faced a similar issue or if it gets taken care of on the back end.

Does anyone know how to get back into the room? I was having audio issues and after installing Adobe it keeps saying User Limit Exceeded. Anyone know how to contact powerscore asap?

I'm stuck with 150s in timed exams and the early 160s in BR for some months now.

My study method has been this:

Take timed test. Blind review. Review wrong questions. Note reason of getting wrong. Make a list of it.

The very first timed test was in the 140s so it was great to have some increase at first but, I mean, being stuck for a few months is a bit too long.

I would really love some advice from those who experienced a significant score increase.

Any specific tips?

"Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week."

From the lesson, https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-complex-conditional-translations-4-w-answers/

I'm very confused in here because of the prior rules of mixing group 3 and group 4 conditional indicators. And in this sentence there's a bunch of them.

I understand the "final" necessary condition being /road trip next week. So the first conditional statement written in logic would be /car fixed > /road trip. This part I understand as we are using group 3 logic, negate sufficient. Simple enough.

Now to add the second part, "Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help....."

In this sentence we have two group 3 indicators and one group 4 indicator. What do we do in this situation? In a previous lesson when we run into this situation, we pick one side, follow that group's negation rules, then treat the other "logical indicator" as a negation.

So for example, I want to follow group 3's rule on the indicator "unless". Which is choose a side, make it the sufficient condition, and negate. Okay. Let's pick car fixed.

So this puts me at /car fixed > which cannot happen without Steve's help.....

Now on the necessary side we have a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator in there :DDDD.

What do we do here? If I treat both as a negation which cancels each other out, that turns into /car fixed > Steve's help. Which makes absolutely no sense at all. And even the other way around, /car fixed > /steve's help, which makes so much more sense, it doesn't fit in the final answer. This is because the contrapositive of /car fixed > /steve's help is steve's help > car fixed.

The final answer being /steve's help > /car fixed > /road trip. The contrapositive being road trip > car fixed > steve's help.

Help me please~~~

Hi,

I took a diagnostic about 3 weeks ago and scored a 157. Since then I've taken maybe 6-7 tests and have been scoring around 170 on the last few without doing any actual studying, just glancing at why I got questions wrong and particularly emphasizing the LG section because that's what I struggled with most on my diagnostic. I'm not trying to brag or anything but I want to know realistically what it takes to get from high 160's/low 170's to consistent high 170's. Also I have over a year to study until I'll be applying to law schools.

Thanks

Happy Wednesday, everyone! This week, our newsletter goes through what 'sufficient' and 'necessary' actually mean, and how to use that to improve your Lawgic skills. You can take a look here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/understanding-sufficient-and-necessary

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Just want to hop on here and discuss some methods to get me to a 176 PT.

You've got to have a concrete approach to the questions. Here's how I break it down.

LG:

Do all the curriculum, follow all the advice. Here's my supplemental advice.

Must be true questions:

By nature of the question, the stimulus in the question HAS to lead you to a certain conclusion(s). Think about that when you are applying the additional premise to your game board or working off of the game board for those questions that have no additional premises. Look at every rule, and if you see that this specific question could lend itself to two game boards, quickly and carefully draw those out! You might, and likely will find, that X is in spot 4 in both boards, or that R is in group C in both boards, and there's your answer. You have to push through on these questions.

Could be true questions:

These, in my opinion, are harder, because the answers aren't always so easy to spot. Of course plug in any additional premise to your board and solve as normal, but if you're stuck thinking "I can't tell which direction to go", then start plugging in answers and see what will happen. It seems like a lot, but there are only 5 answers, the first one might work, the third one might work, or sometimes it's the last answer, but you've got to be able to decide that you need to shift out of "make your own inferences" mode into Test the answers mode. Knowing when to do this will precious time.

Can't be true/could be true except:

JY discusses this in many of the explanations, but it warrants my repetition. If a particular answer choice contains a game piece placement that seems to interact with many rules, i.e. it triggers a contrapositive and a not both rule, or it makes the game board have limited space for consecutive pieces, try this answer first. Not blindly jumping into answers and trying to sense the "pressure" from certain answers is a needed skill to get these harder questions right and right fast.

LR and RC:

I will be entirely honest, I did not go through the LR or RC curriculum on 7sage. I'm sure it is amazing curriculum; but I myself used a tutor when I was in the low 160s struggling on mostly LR and RC. But here is a drastic clue. You HAVE to have approaches to each question type, unless your last name is Kent and your girlfriend is Lois Lane. Knowing how to approach a flaw or an NA or a PSA is crucial. It creates structure to your test taking experience, and in theory, should result in the correct answer each time. Don't just like generically think "ok something has to be wrong here" when a flaw question is raised. Rather, realize its a flaw question, and proceed down a list of steps. Personally, I have this approach to flaws. I see that it's a flaw, and I know that I can predict the obvious answer, in which case I find the answer that exactly matches my thoughts and move on, or I summate the argument. By summate, I mean, "ok, its saying that because of this and this, this happens". People don't realize the power of what they're reading. The author is saying that because of x y and z premises, the conclusion is supported. But is it really?

All in all, that's just an example of an approach, but you need to have an approach to question types in LR. For RC, I'll say this, if the question references a certain line or idea, refer back to that line, but read the context above it first. Also, don't just stop at the end of the referenced material. If the mentioned idea/topic continues for the next few sentences. Glance back over that. The hard questions have their answers lying in the context of their references. One might then ask, "well aren't I wasting time??". Here's the answer. If you've read carefully before hand, then no. You'll have gone through the other questions easily because you took your time to understand the passage, and making certain that you comprehend the referenced stimulus in a question should not put you at a disadvantage for that passage as a whole.

But the emphasis is on the caveat. "As long as you've read carefully". Take the time, and I mean take the time. After each paragraph, I basically go through each idea I just read in those chunk of lines. Characters, viewpoints, if they disagree with someone or something, if there are any lists (there are three theories about evolution, x, y and z). Sometimes I spend 3.5 minutes reading, if it's a comparative section with two passages, I've spent 5 minutes. But I had time remaining at the end of the RC section overall.

Just finished an LG set and wanted to review, but the explanation videos won't play. The rest of the site seems to be working fine and so does my wifi, so just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks!

So I haven't seen this question yet on the discussion forum (at least not a recent post) and I think it would be helpful for me and other people. Do people have tips on staying motivated on the LSAT journey?

I know from personal experience that I can get distracted a lot during prep, or just not have the motivation seeing that there is so much riding on this one score that the daunting pressure of it pushes me away from studying. There is also burn out because if I do study I put my all int it, dedicating all my extra time to it, and as a fulltime student (who is also a commuter) with a part-time job that does take its toll. That all being said I do know when to take time out for myself and am constant "treating myself" throughout the process, which I find very helpful for treating burn out.

However, to add on the the main question does anyone have tips for balancing keeping time for yourself, and also being motivated for LSAT studying?