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Hi 7sagers,

As I am close to finishing my school applications, I now have extra time that I used before for LSAT study. I saw some posts about test day questions, and I would like to share my own test day experience and tips

Pick a time slot that works best for your body and brain

We set up our "preferred time slot" for practice tests, but if you are like me, who would predictably get anxious for the real test, it might not be a bad idea to pick a slot that 1 - 2 hours later than the usual practice test time to calm the overly hyped body and brain. I did it for the Oct test, and it turned out to work well.

Brain warm-up if you can

If you decide to give yourself an extra 1 - 2 hours before the actual test, you may want to meditate, do some light exercises, and warm up your brain. There are some other discussions about how to warm up before the test. The standard way is to do one game, one passage, and 7 - 8 LR questions. I found that warm-up with LG questions only works best because LG questions integrate understanding, inferences, and diagrams, which quickly alert the brain and transfer it to the test mode.

Talking about LG, just a side note - you will only allow five pieces of scratch paper for the entire test. No refill over the break. So diagram as much as you want, but also be cautious just in case there are 2 LG sections, and you will have to diagram a TON.

Ask the proctor if you have any question BEFORE starting the test

If you have any test-related question, make sure to ask. There is a 10 - 20 mins check-in section before starting the test, and after you finish the check-in, most proctors will not force you to begin the test right away unless you agree that you are ready as well. Take your time to clear all test-related questions so you can focus later. If your proctors forget to mute their microphone, it's also okay to politely ask them to mute themselves.

Restrain water intake

You will allow bringing a clear bottle of water (around 20 ounces), but may want to use it considerably. I nervously drank the whole bottle over my second RC section, and ended up focusing on something else than fully dedicated to the test in my last section. I might score slightly better if I did not abuse the water resource XD

You can eat in front of the camera but cannot miss the check-in after the break

There will be a 10 mins break before your third section, and you will have to click "check-in" within this 10 mins in order to continue the test. Even if you click at the 5-minute, the test will not be resumed until it reaches the full 10 mins break. So if you are really afraid of losing minutes or forget to click in, just click "check-in" first, and then do whatever helps you with the test (whatever that does not violate the LSAC rule; no phone or any other electronic devices. But it's a perfect snack time!)

After finishing the test, do not close the test window immediately.

Check with your proctors, and they will guide you to exit safely.

Additionally, to my international test-taking fellows: don't let the "language barrier" (or whatever other people may have said) discourage you. You don't have to be an English master to write the test. But I would suggest starting a personal LSAT vocab dictionary for unfamiliar words from stimulus or passages, such as legal terms. Some of these terms are not familiar to native speakers either. Don't be discouraged -- everyone was once a beginner!

Good luck to everyone! Please feel free to reach out if you have any question about test prepping! I am happy to help!

QS

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Hello,

I'm having a very hard time understanding the unscored section.

So far as I can see, the LSAT will always have at least one of each of the three section types, with one additional experimental section—that is unscored—drawing from any of those three types. Thus, there are a total of 4 sections when you go to take the LSAT, but only 3 count toward your score.

Thus, I am having a hard time understanding why each of the PrepTests I have taken so far have four sections, all of which appear to be scored. My most recent practice test had my get a score out of approximately 26 for each of the 4, for a total of about 101 available points. That seems to be the case for any raw score conversion of any available PrepTest. But if one of those four sections was experimental, why are we getting scored for it? Why can't I identify which one of the sections on these old tests was experimental and thus not consider it in my actual score?

Am I missing something? Did the LSAT only recently change to having 3 scored sections? What is the disconnect here?

Thanks

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Hello everyone,

I've noticed that one of my main problems (other than timing, which I hope will come with time - pun intended) is not understanding the stimulus correctly.

I say this while referring to questions with 4/5 or 5/5 difficulty. Sometimes, however much I read the stimulus it does not make any sense. I've also noticed that the more I spend time trying to formulate what is happening and removing banter from these overly complex sentences, the more I tend to get lost. It's like my brain gives up.

I have started trying to rephrase every sentence in the stimulus on paper to try to get myself used to doing it mentally, though I am not sure how effective that will be (i'll happily report after a week or two of trying this)

But, does anyone have any tips? Should I spend sometime reading dense literature to get used to it? Is my lack of strong vocabulary the problem??

Any tips and tricks are welcome.

Thanks in advance

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I am taking a brief study break and reviewing in my mind some of the things I know or have learned. However, when I look at the things I need to review and learn it's like OMG, brain freeze, headache, got to step away from it all for a second, regroup and return back to it.

How do we deal with all this information? I feel like there are so many skills to know and learn in such little time. As soon as I master one technique, it's like I have to review the other techniques that I have forgotten. I am trying to stay focused, but SMH.....

Any suggestions????

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I hope I landed at least in solid 150s on my November LSAT as this is already much improvement from prior scores on file.

However, there is a school I am interested in the 25th percentile is low 160s and my GPA is slightly above their 25th percentile.

Should I sign up to write January LSAT and then apply? Or just apply with hopefully November score is in solid 150s?

Context: I am an URM and wrote the 4 times already which includes November 2021 administration. I worked and was involved during undergrad and graduate school.

In regards to other application components. I am planning on submitting an LSAT addendum, trying to craft stellar statements, and hoping to secure strong letter of rec.

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I have 171 from lsat 5 years ago when it was disclosed and all-paper.

New RC was always difficult for me, and at the time I took it, the LSAT was using newer/more-difficult RC. I got -5 on rc but couldn't improve it further. I just couldn't finish the section in 35 mins, no matter how hard i tried. In real test I only had 5 mins for the last passage, and I just guessed on most of it, hence -5. Given enough time, I pretty much go perfect in the section.

Now I'm considering retake, but it seems uphill battle due to several issues, main ones being 1) the test has more weight for RC in Flex 2) the test is computer-based, which makes reading for RC/marking difficult and doing LG much more difficult for me.

Does the retake make sense? How difficult is computer-based test compared to olden paper-based?

Anyone else who went through similar issues, how did you improve, and tips for improving RC?

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Dear January 2022 lsatters,

It's GAME TIME. We got approximately 50 ish days 'til Normandy and every single one of these days needs to be supercharged like a Kyle on that Bang Energy Drink. Many of us spent months and years leading up to this momentous event, and soon we'll see the fruits of our labor. Whatever our harvest, I hope that the amount of blood, sweat, tears, and random-ass, stress-induced white hair-strands that popped up on our semi-young heads would have been well worth it.

Not that you asked, but I'm just so sick of this test.. I'm sick of tying myself down to the "potential" future this score will supposedly dictate and existing as a constant slave to the invisible master who haunts my self-worth in the back of my hyper-psychoanalyzed consciousness.

I decided I'm just going to get on with life. I'm really just tryna find my honey at a law school that wants me and hit her with that SCOPE-rope-ELOPE. That check-in and stay-in strat; poppin-in and poppin-out some minions and settling into the nuclear tradition. This dumbass test is holding me back in my single-childish ways like a Simon and Pumba duo, but I'M still the mother fucking Simba in this story; pride rock is my inheritance and Nala is waiting the advent of her bestfriend. Fuck Scar and God bless Rafiki.

So I'ma see y'alls on the other side. In the meantime, let's gobble up this turkey and go ham on Amazon for some prime deals. Remind your stomachs what it feels like to digest a real Thanksgiving Feast, prepared in the unique and beautiful method of your particular culture.

"THUS," I wish the deepest of good luck to the rest of you 7Sagist sadists. Wherever you are in your heroine/hero's journey, I hope you find contentment within yourselves and continue to push the upper boundaries of the personal limitations you may have that only you may truly know and determine. Y'all got this. Do it for the 7Sage fam, fam!

Sincerely,

lsat_sus, aka "Cringe-King"

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I was considering going for my PhD in Philosophy and giving up on the LSAT; however, I recognized how important going to law school was to me so I decided to continue the pursuit of my dreams. So far, I have two cancellations on file. I know based on what I've been reading on here, though, that there are people who have made incredible improvements in their scores, so I know that if I put in the effort I can do it, too. To anyone else who is thinking of giving up: don't. You can do this, you can get the score that you want; it will just take some time. Never give up! You can do it! To quote Rise Against, my favorite band, "The walls that all surround you are only in your mind." Always remember this. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemies. Have confidence in your abilities and keep on fighting!

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Hi everyone,

On Tuesday, December 7, at 9:00 PM ET, David and the 7Sage Tutoring Team will host a webinar about timing and pacing on the LSAT.

You’ll get a chance to ask your questions at the end.

:warning: You’ll have to register for this webinar in advance.

:cookie: After the webinar, we’ll award two attendees a free hour of LSAT tutoring. We'll pick the winners by lottery.

:warning: The webinar will be recorded, and we may post it on our site or on YouTube. We may also share the audio on our podcast.

→ Please register for the webinar here:

https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_7GRneE9aSPyfUmnx0IyaVA

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

If you want to ask a question, you should connect via a computer instead of calling in. We also recommend that you join the webinar a few minutes early and test your microphone.

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From a 144 diagnostic to a final score of 165 (second try), it's been a crazy year. I already have offers (including full-tuition) rolling in. It was a daunting task being a few years post-grad and working full time, but this program made it possible. THANK YOU!

..and you reading this (yes, you) can do it too!

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It's always helped me, whenever I read anything detailed, to whisper out verbally what I am reading. I have been suppressing this behavior because, for some reason, I'm still in the mindset of taking the test in person. I thought I recall reading somewhere that speaking isn't allowed on the online tests. Does anyone know if this is true? I would hate to have my sitting flagged or DQ'd because I "talked to myself" during the test. Thanks!

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So I've been at this test for a long time and I want to get this over with in January but I'd like to end strong and have a score I can use for T-14. I've worked with tutors and they've helped but I'm kind of at the point where I'm not sure how much more tutors can do for me. I get questions incorrect, review with them and they answer me, but then I take another test and still get the same number and type of questions incorrect. I'm fine with games; I'm at the point where I can solve them on my own without watching the 7sage videos but I'm just not making any progress on LR and RC. I break even on every exam (like -3 to -4 on each section and -5 or -6 if I get stressed). I post on the forum but it's a crapshot whether I get an answer and even when I do, I'm not sure if the answers I'm getting are even correct. Could someone give me non-generic advice? Please don't tell me to practice/drill more or to read the Economist/Loophole. And please don't tell me to just delay another admissions cycle. I've done all of that. I've been through so many PT's the questions are getting muddled up.

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So whenever I sit down to study and have a hard time getting something I get super stressed. I noticed that my mind looks for an escape and I just open a new tab and wander just to avoid the stress.

Anyone experience anything like this? Any advice?

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I have gone through all the books out there. The bibles, Manhattan prep, Cassidy, someone on tikTok recommended something... I legit went through them all but nothing makes sense like 7Sage.

This platform is legit, and it also makes sense like I am learning these concepts on the same machine I will use to take the test! The commentary by JY is enlightening. The discussion posts are on point. And the AI behind this thing is insane!

thank you everyone at 7Sage. This platform is worth every penny.

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I've really struggled with precede and how it's sometimes implemented in certain questions. Please let me know if what I have below is correct.

Setup:

1 comes before 2.

2 comes after 1.

1-2

Truths:

"Follow"

I follow 1. (Spoken as 2)

2 follows 1.

2 followed 1.

2 had/will/did follow(ed) 1.

2 is following 1.

1 is followed by 2.

"Precede"

I precede 2. (Spoken as 1)

1 precedes 2.

1 preceded 2.

1 had/will/did precede(ed) 2.

1 is preceding 2.

2 is preceded by 1.

"Proceed"

I proceed 1. (Spoken as 2)

2 did/will proceed 1.

2 proceeds 1.

2 had proceeded 1.

2 is proceeding 1.

1 is proceeded by 2.

*edited

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Hello all,

Recently, I have noticed, studying around 3 hours per weekday, in the mornings, has had great results for me with little stress.

What are some of your sweet spots, in terms of hours studying per day? I’ve heard of some waking up early and studying multiple hours before work—I work full-time as well—and others saying they break up their prep into 30 minute chunks throughout the day every day. What are some of your habits?

Best,

Gabe

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Hi, I am blind and I have been approved for 151% additional time; however, when I take the practice test here, the only option is between 50% additional, 100% additional, and 1XX% additional time but not 151%.

It would mean a lot if you could perhaps give that option or add an option where students can add custom time they wanna take to finish a set.

To prove my request, I can also email the accommodations letter issued from LSAC.

Please advise

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Hi all,

Helpful insight would be appreciated; I am practicing my "translating" my Sufficient & Necessary conditional statements.

"Only" is a "group 2" operator that introduces the necessary condition, but I'm finding it difficult to figure out why this matters in certain simplistic contexts.

Consider the statement: "Only cats meow."

M --> C

/C --> /M

But with "only" sentences, it seems like the reverse logical operation is also true.

C --> M

/M --> /C

Am I simplifying it too much? In other words, is this logical reasoning or rule only relevant when ideas are more complex?

Thanks,

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Hi, I have been studying for a few months now and have realized that i always face the same problem, that is, when i see the answers after checking the test I instantly think"oh that makes sense". I am quite sure that i really understand the answer, but i get it wrong again the next time when facing a similar question. Are there any tips that u guys can suggest on improving the score? Please leave comments below on what habits that u have either during the exam or BRing that help u much more than other methods. Thank you very much!

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