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Last comment thursday, dec 02 2021

Should I take the LSAT again?

Backstory: I got a 152 on my first LSAT in October and was very fortunate to improve my score to a 159 on the November LSAT. I am primarily looking at regional schools as my top choices that have medians around 155 or 156. Although a couple of other schools I am applying (that I am a little less interested in due to location, but would still consider) have medians around 160.

I have studied pretty consistently (around 25 hours a week also working a full-time job) for around 3-4 months. While I have some confidence that I can get better on LR and probably get close to perfect on LG by the January LSAT, I also know the holidays and traveling will make it difficult to get the same study habits I had before the November LSAT.

The decision also gets a little harder because if I decide to retake in January, do I wait to submit my applications to those 160ish median schools until February when scores come in? I feel like the two months of waiting might outweigh the benefit of getting a slightly higher score.

Any advice on whether to retake or just let it go and move on?

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Hello,

Before I starting my journey here on 7Sage, I was an educator. I tend to create visual/organized charts that can help me organize everything into smaller portions. I want to share this with you because I know some of you might be visual learners and instead of "flashcards" you're better at memorizing charts. For example: maybe you remember that sufficient condition is on the left side of the chart and under that left side you can "visualize" the keywords. On some of the charts, you'll see a picture/color that can help those who remember colors/shapes more than words. You can make a copy and make it your own.

Hope this helps! Please let me know if I made mistakes on any of the charts.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjJX7betNQV1e1ZK4sjY6Atfmdu87-IcH50feYFCRPQ/edit

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Last comment wednesday, dec 01 2021

7Sage Syllabus

What is the best way to approach the 7sage study plan? Often times it asks for like 30hrs a weeks of studying and as a full time student, I can't commit to that. My plan is to take the June 2022 LSAT, so I would like to get through the entire plan if needed/possible.

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Hey peeps! I just got my score back (decent but will definitely be retaking it in Feb) and was trying to see my score breakdown to see which questions I got right and wrong, but LSAT says these files are "unavailable". To my knowledge the Nov 2021 LSAT is disclosed, and when the LSAT is disclosed score reports are available immediately. Does anyone know how I can access the score breakdown?

Update: Apparently God-Emperor LSAC has decided to discontinue disclosing recent LSAT scores for the time being. They stopped allowing score breakdowns to be released since the pandemic began and the LSAT Flex got popularized. Hopefully they'll add it back eventually. Until then, PT's for me!

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Hi all,

Im taking my first LSAT in January. Can I send in my applications without the LSAT score? I see that there is an option on the apps to put when you plan to take the LSAT if you haven't already. Is there a benefit/negative to sending in your application without your LSAT score?

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Last comment tuesday, nov 30 2021

Unscored section?

Hello,

I'm having a very hard time understanding the unscored section.

So far as I can see, the LSAT will always have at least one of each of the three section types, with one additional experimental section—that is unscored—drawing from any of those three types. Thus, there are a total of 4 sections when you go to take the LSAT, but only 3 count toward your score.

Thus, I am having a hard time understanding why each of the PrepTests I have taken so far have four sections, all of which appear to be scored. My most recent practice test had my get a score out of approximately 26 for each of the 4, for a total of about 101 available points. That seems to be the case for any raw score conversion of any available PrepTest. But if one of those four sections was experimental, why are we getting scored for it? Why can't I identify which one of the sections on these old tests was experimental and thus not consider it in my actual score?

Am I missing something? Did the LSAT only recently change to having 3 scored sections? What is the disconnect here?

Thanks

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I hope I landed at least in solid 150s on my November LSAT as this is already much improvement from prior scores on file.

However, there is a school I am interested in the 25th percentile is low 160s and my GPA is slightly above their 25th percentile.

Should I sign up to write January LSAT and then apply? Or just apply with hopefully November score is in solid 150s?

Context: I am an URM and wrote the 4 times already which includes November 2021 administration. I worked and was involved during undergrad and graduate school.

In regards to other application components. I am planning on submitting an LSAT addendum, trying to craft stellar statements, and hoping to secure strong letter of rec.

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Hey everyone. I am planning to retake the lsat in January or February 2022 with the hopes of getting a 170 or above. I first took the LSAT in October 2020 and got a 165. I applied to T-14/20 schools and didn't get in to where I wanted, so I decided to delay my law school plans. I have now decided to reapply to law schools in the Fall of 2022 and want to get the highest score possible.

I have been studying now for about a month and am about at a 160 as I try to get reaccumulated with this test. LG is by far my easiest with not missing more than 2. LR and RC are equally hard. I have been blind reviewing around 80% for LR in the last week. The timing is still a killer for me. Any suggests on if I should push the test back till February to give me more time? I know I have the time but would love to get this horrible test over with asap. Thanks!!

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I have 171 from lsat 5 years ago when it was disclosed and all-paper.

New RC was always difficult for me, and at the time I took it, the LSAT was using newer/more-difficult RC. I got -5 on rc but couldn't improve it further. I just couldn't finish the section in 35 mins, no matter how hard i tried. In real test I only had 5 mins for the last passage, and I just guessed on most of it, hence -5. Given enough time, I pretty much go perfect in the section.

Now I'm considering retake, but it seems uphill battle due to several issues, main ones being 1) the test has more weight for RC in Flex 2) the test is computer-based, which makes reading for RC/marking difficult and doing LG much more difficult for me.

Does the retake make sense? How difficult is computer-based test compared to olden paper-based?

Anyone else who went through similar issues, how did you improve, and tips for improving RC?

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Last comment tuesday, nov 30 2021

171 Oct LSAT - Test day tips

Hi 7sagers,

As I am close to finishing my school applications, I now have extra time that I used before for LSAT study. I saw some posts about test day questions, and I would like to share my own test day experience and tips

Pick a time slot that works best for your body and brain

We set up our "preferred time slot" for practice tests, but if you are like me, who would predictably get anxious for the real test, it might not be a bad idea to pick a slot that 1 - 2 hours later than the usual practice test time to calm the overly hyped body and brain. I did it for the Oct test, and it turned out to work well.

Brain warm-up if you can

If you decide to give yourself an extra 1 - 2 hours before the actual test, you may want to meditate, do some light exercises, and warm up your brain. There are some other discussions about how to warm up before the test. The standard way is to do one game, one passage, and 7 - 8 LR questions. I found that warm-up with LG questions only works best because LG questions integrate understanding, inferences, and diagrams, which quickly alert the brain and transfer it to the test mode.

Talking about LG, just a side note - you will only allow five pieces of scratch paper for the entire test. No refill over the break. So diagram as much as you want, but also be cautious just in case there are 2 LG sections, and you will have to diagram a TON.

Ask the proctor if you have any question BEFORE starting the test

If you have any test-related question, make sure to ask. There is a 10 - 20 mins check-in section before starting the test, and after you finish the check-in, most proctors will not force you to begin the test right away unless you agree that you are ready as well. Take your time to clear all test-related questions so you can focus later. If your proctors forget to mute their microphone, it's also okay to politely ask them to mute themselves.

Restrain water intake

You will allow bringing a clear bottle of water (around 20 ounces), but may want to use it considerably. I nervously drank the whole bottle over my second RC section, and ended up focusing on something else than fully dedicated to the test in my last section. I might score slightly better if I did not abuse the water resource XD

You can eat in front of the camera but cannot miss the check-in after the break

There will be a 10 mins break before your third section, and you will have to click "check-in" within this 10 mins in order to continue the test. Even if you click at the 5-minute, the test will not be resumed until it reaches the full 10 mins break. So if you are really afraid of losing minutes or forget to click in, just click "check-in" first, and then do whatever helps you with the test (whatever that does not violate the LSAC rule; no phone or any other electronic devices. But it's a perfect snack time!)

After finishing the test, do not close the test window immediately.

Check with your proctors, and they will guide you to exit safely.

Additionally, to my international test-taking fellows: don't let the "language barrier" (or whatever other people may have said) discourage you. You don't have to be an English master to write the test. But I would suggest starting a personal LSAT vocab dictionary for unfamiliar words from stimulus or passages, such as legal terms. Some of these terms are not familiar to native speakers either. Don't be discouraged -- everyone was once a beginner!

Good luck to everyone! Please feel free to reach out if you have any question about test prepping! I am happy to help!

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Last comment monday, nov 29 2021

Trouble linking prep plus?

I lost my credit card over the weekend and wasn't able to access problem sets so I attributed it to that. After receiving my new card and updating payment info on 7Sage I am still unable to access problem sets because 7Sage is saying my Prep Plus account is not linked, when I click 'link my account' it takes me to prep plus and says that it is linked?

I'd love to get back to studying haha, has anyone experienced this before?

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It's always helped me, whenever I read anything detailed, to whisper out verbally what I am reading. I have been suppressing this behavior because, for some reason, I'm still in the mindset of taking the test in person. I thought I recall reading somewhere that speaking isn't allowed on the online tests. Does anyone know if this is true? I would hate to have my sitting flagged or DQ'd because I "talked to myself" during the test. Thanks!

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Last comment saturday, nov 27 2021

TMI Question Need Encouragement

I am taking a brief study break and reviewing in my mind some of the things I know or have learned. However, when I look at the things I need to review and learn it's like OMG, brain freeze, headache, got to step away from it all for a second, regroup and return back to it.

How do we deal with all this information? I feel like there are so many skills to know and learn in such little time. As soon as I master one technique, it's like I have to review the other techniques that I have forgotten. I am trying to stay focused, but SMH.....

Any suggestions????

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I need advice on how to study for a retake after experiencing technical difficulties on November LSAT. I have not had much luck with the remote LSAT as I had technical difficulties back in June 2021 as well.

I am trying to hit solid 150s on an official take. My June 2021 score was a few points away from the 150s. I would still like to apply this cycle and take off.

Thank you and good luck all.

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Last comment thursday, nov 25 2021

Improving a constant score

Hi, I have been studying for a few months now and have realized that i always face the same problem, that is, when i see the answers after checking the test I instantly think"oh that makes sense". I am quite sure that i really understand the answer, but i get it wrong again the next time when facing a similar question. Are there any tips that u guys can suggest on improving the score? Please leave comments below on what habits that u have either during the exam or BRing that help u much more than other methods. Thank you very much!

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So I've been at this test for a long time and I want to get this over with in January but I'd like to end strong and have a score I can use for T-14. I've worked with tutors and they've helped but I'm kind of at the point where I'm not sure how much more tutors can do for me. I get questions incorrect, review with them and they answer me, but then I take another test and still get the same number and type of questions incorrect. I'm fine with games; I'm at the point where I can solve them on my own without watching the 7sage videos but I'm just not making any progress on LR and RC. I break even on every exam (like -3 to -4 on each section and -5 or -6 if I get stressed). I post on the forum but it's a crapshot whether I get an answer and even when I do, I'm not sure if the answers I'm getting are even correct. Could someone give me non-generic advice? Please don't tell me to practice/drill more or to read the Economist/Loophole. And please don't tell me to just delay another admissions cycle. I've done all of that. I've been through so many PT's the questions are getting muddled up.

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Last comment tuesday, nov 23 2021

On Not Giving Up

I was considering going for my PhD in Philosophy and giving up on the LSAT; however, I recognized how important going to law school was to me so I decided to continue the pursuit of my dreams. So far, I have two cancellations on file. I know based on what I've been reading on here, though, that there are people who have made incredible improvements in their scores, so I know that if I put in the effort I can do it, too. To anyone else who is thinking of giving up: don't. You can do this, you can get the score that you want; it will just take some time. Never give up! You can do it! To quote Rise Against, my favorite band, "The walls that all surround you are only in your mind." Always remember this. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemies. Have confidence in your abilities and keep on fighting!

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Last comment tuesday, nov 23 2021

Thank you JY and 7Sage!

From a 144 diagnostic to a final score of 165 (second try), it's been a crazy year. I already have offers (including full-tuition) rolling in. It was a daunting task being a few years post-grad and working full time, but this program made it possible. THANK YOU!

..and you reading this (yes, you) can do it too!

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