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Hi everyone, I am seeking some advice on what to approach first in regards to studying for the LSAT. I’m planning on taking the June 2022 LSAT and am start prepping to prep for it.

I bought the Manhattan prep books last year so I’ve been reading the RC , I found RC a bit difficult as I got 2/10 on the short exercises and it was mostly because I looked at the RC’s in a different perspective, although I did have the correct answers underlined. I was planning to enroll in the 7sage ultimate plus for additional support and instructions. However, is there a specific order that I need to study like would LG and LR possible make the RC’s clear? Any suggestions or tips?

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Last comment thursday, aug 19 2021

Tips for timing

I had recently been going about taking PTS but rather untimed to see whether or not I'd be able to decipher the correct answer with the choices provided. On LR using this method I have gone -2 and -1, but I continue to struggle with timing. I possess the same issue with RC buts it way worse as I don't even have time to reach the the questions of the final passage before time expires. Any suggestions to improve on timing in these two sections?

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I just finished by Blind Review for PT 69 and got a 162 actual and a 180 on my blind review, something I've never done before. Before that I was averaging around a 160 with a 170/172 BR. I would go over questions I got wrong in depth, watching JY's explanation videos and such until I was sure I understood why the right answer was correct

I am so happy with these improvements because I got a 159 on the June test and I am retaking in October to hopefully hit a 163. I want to stay motivated and continue to see progress.

Should I continue doing timed practice every other day and blind reviewing, or should I include other forms of studying as well? I have 100% free time from now until mid-September. I'm leaning towards timed practice (i.e., practice tests) since clearly my weakness is the timing.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated! thanks so much

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Hi, I started at a 142 and am currently PTing between 155-157. Any advice on how to break out of this? My goal is a 165 by October.

I need to definitely work on logic games timing, but any overall tips would be helpful. Or any books/course/tutors!

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Last comment wednesday, aug 18 2021

Withdraw ... or not?

This is killing me, so I had to share and see what others think. I got a 169 in October (with around 3 months of studying) and a 171 in June (a few more months of studying). My PT average going into the June test was around 173ish, with some 178/176 (BUT those tests were in the 70s, not 80s because I stupidly did most of those early; however, most of those early scores were also low 170s). LG was my worst section originally, but I've improved drastically (thanks, JY!).

I'm aiming for the best school that will give me a lot of money. (Like, a lot.) My GPA is lower than the median for all the T20, so I feel I need a higher LSAT to balance it out.

Final note: I messed up my alarms on the day of the June test (nightmarish, I know) and woke up literally five minutes before my test start time. No coffee, no food, no warm up or other prep. I had gotten the room ready the night before, thankfully.

I've been debating over the past few weeks whether I should just be happy with the 171 or take the August next week and risk a lower score if I have a bad day. I've done two PTs this week - one from the 60s (180) and a redo of 89 that I hadn't looked at since late last year (got a 171 this time, 168 originally). However, my drills have been going fairly poorly this week and I'm kind of freaking out. I'd appreciate any thoughts anyone has.

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I just finished my first ever LSAT and have a rough impression of how I did on each section relative to the others and relative to my usual PT performance on each section type. But will I be able to confirm this impression with more specificity when I get my results? As in, do score reports actually detail the number of questions right/wrong per section? Or do they only report the final overall score out of 180?

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This is something I wish I could tell my younger self when I first started off studying. When I first started, I had this mindset of "If I study 5 hours a day and do 100 questions... yeah I'll definitely crush this exam." Yeah, I was definitely cocky with that mentality and now I realize how foolish I was back then to think that haha. But the reason for that is much of our exams in college and high school were fueled by this kind of approach. Whether it be a biology exam or history exam, if you memorized a fact, YOU KNOW and can regurgitate that on paper. "What year was the Declaration of Independence signed? Oooh easy, 1776!"

The LSAT is different. It is less a content exam and more of a skills exam. The exam tests very specific skills that, if you hone them well, will serve you extremely well come test day.

For example, in Logical Reasoning, it is all about evaluating the argument. What does it mean to evaluate the argument? It means you have to be able to find the Conclusion, identify the Premises, pause and think about any assumptions being made, and then figuring out why the correct answer is correct while all the others are bad. To be able to do all this quickly is a skill and the most critical skill on the section.

When I started off, I didn't think much about the above and my basis for success came down to how many questions I got right on a problem set. "Yes, I got 4 out of 5 right! I'm ready for this man!" But the I would just keep getting the same low score over and over and over.

The problem was that I may have gotten the correct answer a few times but I never fully understood why nor did I fully integrate the correct processes to be able to get them consistently right.

The best example is shooting a basketball. I was lucky enough to hit a few shots in a row but come game day, I couldn't hit them consistently time and time again. The only way to make this work is to make sure you integrated the correct processes into your brain so that it is seamless. That's why players like Steph Curry no long think when they shoot. They just shoot because the skill is so embedded in them.

That's where you want to be in LSAT prep. It is far more beneficial for you to take the time to figure just what skills the LSAT is testing and then figuring out the methods to consistently practice those skills over and over.

Your goal should not be "I want to finish 50 questions in 3 hours," but rather "Did I understand just these 5 questions and how to correctly approach them next time?" The latter is far more beneficial and will serve you well because the LSAT repeats the same concepts over and over. The same flaws, the same games, the same RC passages come up over and over. If you could to figure out the best way to tackle these problems the first time around and integrate them, you'll be ready to ace them without blinking the next time you see them.

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Last comment tuesday, aug 17 2021

balancing work/study..

Those of you who have managed to study while working full time.. how long did it take you to reach your dream score? any tips/advice on time management/ study schedule?

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i've been seeing a lot of people's RAM usage higher than the 95% allowed by Proctor U. There are tons of articles on how to reduce your RAM on our computer. These are my go-to tips for a macbook air (intel - but that doesn't matter)

  • remove any "log-in" applications
  • system preferences > users & groups > Login items > uncheck all
  • clear cached files
  • finder > search "~/library/cache" select all - delete all
  • EMPTY YOUR TRASH
  • this should be quite substantial after clearing your cached files
  • Quit background programs
  • activity monitor > filter high/low CPU usage > quit programs you're not using
  • if you use google chrome...
  • clear browsing data

    elipses top right hand corner > settings > clear browsing data

    clear chrome task manager

    elipses top right hand corner > more tools > task manager > quit any running programs

    **** NOT proctor U extension though

  • if all else fails, restart your computer and try again with a fresh start
  • hope this helps - good luck!

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    Last comment monday, aug 16 2021

    Recent PT Scores Dropping

    I took the November 2020 LSAT and scored a 160. Since then I've gone through the 7sage CC for LR and LG. I've taken 3 practice tests in the last week and my scores keep dropping (i.e. 166-->163-->162). Should I slow down on the practice tests? The toughest section for me by far is LG (-8 average) and my best section is LR followed by RC. I will most likely take the October 2021 LSAT and am aiming for a 172. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you!

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    Last comment monday, aug 16 2021

    PT 80 omg

    Anyone else find PT 80 difficult? I know it probably has to do with my test conditions when I took it but oh boy I was averaging 169 these past few tests and dropped to 160 on PT 80 oh boy....tips or words of encouragement?

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    Within the last week, I've taken ten practice tests. Three of them were in the high 150s, two in the low 160s, three in the high 160s, and two in the 170s. I do not understand why my test scores are varying so wildly; maybe it is a time of day or confidence thing? My average across all the tests on each of the three sections is around -5 for LG/RC and -4 for LG, so it's not that one of my sections is particularly weaker than the others.

    I'm taking the test on Tuesday and it's really psyching me out that I could end up scoring 157 or I could end up scoring 173. Did anyone else experience something similar? What do you think could be the biggest reasons for it?

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    Have you noticed that you score better on sections and PTs at a particular time?

    I seem to score better in the evenings, though I have on signed up for my LSATs in the mornings (9:30)

    In the mornings, I'm groggy - but when I feel good, I do well because I have more energy.

    In the evenings I seem to be more focused and 'in flow' - but I am afraid of being tired by the time my test rolls around.

    What are your observations?

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    whats up fam - it's your boy LSAT_SUS

    I recently had a breakthrough in my score but my score is dropping quicker than a girl's interest when she sees my bank account. But I gotta keep this momentum going somehow

    Like the modern philosopher once said "if it's up, then it's up, then it's up then it's stuck" - Cardi B. She was rapping 'bout my LSAT score.

    A little about me - I'm solid on the 1-4 star Q's on LR and RC. Five stars are 5-stars for a reason. Logic games are a breeeze minus the miscellaneous mfs.

    Shoot a comment if you're interested and let's get this shekki ON THE ROAD. LETS GOO.

    The only condition I have is that you're sufficiently familiar with the CC language (i.e. causation logic, how to weaken/strengthen causation logic, negating ACs, valid argument forms, and yadda yadda.) If not, it's fine but you should get acquainted with it nonetheless.

    OH, and I capped at 174. My last PTS were 160, 170, 172, 174, 163, 168. -0/-1 on LG, -3/-5 LR, -1/-6 RC.

    ** This is free btw so ya idk someone told me to clarify this.

    Admin Note: Edited title to remove all caps. Forum Guidelines: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15

    lsat_sus response to admin: thank you for the guidelines. I'll stay more on top of my expressions no cappa.

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    I have been taking practice tests for months on an external monitor with my small laptop completely closed. I was told by my proctor that I could not use an external monitor if I was using a laptop no matter if it was closed or not. I called up LSAC while in chat with the proctor and was told the same thing. This killed me, I was super calm before the test but rearranging my workspace and how I interacted with the test was brutal.

    I based my assumption that I could use ONE monitor based on https://support.proctoru.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035300212-Multiple-Monitors-Displays page, which is linked from LSAC's website. It says:

    "Multiple monitors/displays are not supported. If you have more than one monitor, you will need to disconnect all but one."

    Has anyone else run into this problem? Is my interpretation of what I read incorrect? Was anyone else able to use an external monitor for their closed laptops?

    Here is an example of ProctorU saying it is allowed! https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/j0cvmu/lsatflex_laptop_and_external_monitor/g6yhvex/

    Do you think I have standing to complain to LSAC?

    Edit: I forgot to mention that I did a equipment check with ProctorU on Friday and was told everything was fine.

    -David

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    Last comment sunday, aug 15 2021

    Scores Dropping

    Hi everyone, hope you're all doing well.

    I will be taking the LSAT on Tuesday and have been studying for 4 months intensely. My prep-test averages ranged from 162-169 up until last week and this week, they've dropped down to 157-163. I'm not sure what happened? I did start using LawHub to get more familiar with it, and started my PTs in the 80s. I had been doing the ones in 60s and 70s before that. From your experience, would the drop in my score be because of the more recent prep-tests? I'm not sure what to do as I'm testing this Tuesday.... It's very frustrating because my LR today was a -11 when up until last week, the lowest I was scoring was -5 or -4.

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    If anybody wants to join, I created a meeting link below. As the title states it is Monday, August 16th 5:30pm MST, 90 minute session.

    meet.google.com/mgo-zmvo-prv

    Looking at this forum it seems people want to study with others, but a lot of the meeting links are dead or don't give specific meeting times, therefore I am creating a meeting time. (do you like my conclusion indicator :)

    This first session will focus on LR and it will last about 90 minutes. We will do some LR questions so there is nothing to prep for, just show up and participate. I am not a tutor, just someone looking to work on practice problems with others. I am scoring around 154 on PTs so there is plenty for me to work on.

    If you can join, cool. If not, all good I will try to do another soon.

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    I wrote the LSAT twice, where I got a score of 155. On my PTs, I am actually scoring WORSE than I did on the actual LSAT a few months ago. My main issue seems to be running out of time, where I am the weakest at RC. LR is hit and miss; sometimes I get 4-5 questions wrong; sometimes 10.

    I wanted to reschedule my LSAT, but LSAC charges as much as it is to re-write a new test, to reschedule. So if I were to write again, I'd need to pay another $200 USD regardless of whether I write in 5 days or not.

    What are my best options here to improve in the next few days? I just want a score in the low 160s for the law schools I've been applying to.

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    Does anybody know the deadline of registration for the October LSAT, as well as the specific time it will be administered on the day? Knowing the time in advance will greatly help by allowing me to make adjustments in my study schedule as early as possible.

    Thank you!

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    I've thought about this for a little while, and decided I'd just go ahead and ask. Anybody test with a mac, and have the Doc on their mac be an issue. It seems random, but once while doing a Practice Test, I went to input the correct answer choice and accidentally pushed open an application from the doc on the bottom of my screen. I'm trying to temporarily remove it, but don't see how I can. I moved it to the left of my screen and made it smaller, but was wondering what other folks have done. Or is this a non-issue with the Proctor taking over my screen?

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