Hi everyone. I received a 164 in November and I have so far been WL by every school that I have applied to. I am considering taking the June test and reapplying next year. Is it possible to go from a 164 to a 170+ by June?

Additionally: Logical Reasoning is my worst section. No matter what I try, I cannot improve. I was going -5/-7 on it for a while, but somehow, I'm now scoring something crazy like -11/-12 per section. RC and LG remain consistent (respectively: around a -3 and a -0/-1 for each). June would be my sixth take, which scares me as well.

Hi all,

I joined this community last year and it was instrumental to my success on the LSAT. The discussion boards are very responsive and blow Reddit out of the water. I wanted to provide a brief update and volunteer advice to anyone who can make use of it. I got a 165 in October 2020 after studying pell-mell. After that, I completed the core curriculum systematically and started a Reading Comprehension study group with fellow students from the discussion boards.

Fortunately, that work paid off with a 172 a month later. I completed my personal statement, essays, and addenda over the next two months and submitted to twelve schools slightly before their official deadlines. Another member of my study group was able to get a 176 in November, but he's still waiting to get an acceptance from the T-14. It seems as though scoring high on the LSAT is more necessary than sufficient these days.

As many of you know, it's a remarkably competitive admissions cycle. Taking into account the margin of error, there are nearly twice the number of scores higher than mine this year compared to last year. And I believe the last two years may have already been setting records for volume of applicants to law school. So I'm waiting. I've decided to hang my shingle as a tutor while I wait to hear back. Another friend of mine was fortunate enough to get into Yale Law School with a 171, but he submitted early and has a nose for what admissions committees want to hear. I'm in New York and it's not quite safe to return to normal life yet.

Advice that I'm not sure you'll receive elsewhere is to find and form study groups. Even (and especially) if it feels like studying with others is onerous, there is a social reinforcement that really aids retention and skill-building. My other tip is to take it easy. The best athletes know that how you rest is as important as how you work! ; )

Feel free to reach out with any questions if you think I can help you!

To everyone that's been taking timed PTs-- Is it better to take full practice exams on the LSAC website, or to stimulate flex conditions on 7Sage? What did you all find was more efficient /accurate? It's much easier to stimulate FLEX on 7Sage's interface, but I feel like the question clarity (especially for questions like RC) are so much better on the LSAC test hub.

I could use any advice.

Thanks!

I've been averaging 157 on a few older (30s-40s) PTs and tried 51. Got smashed with a 150. Is PT51 pretty indicative of later/more recent PTs or is PT51 harder than normal?

Hi! I've seen discussions online about the standard number of questions you can get wrong to score 170 (-7). Does anyone know what that number typically is for higher 170 scores, like 176? Does -3 or -4 sound right?

Have some time to kill. Anyone want to talk prep strategies, commiserate about this crazy app cycle, or throw some questions around?

CLOSED - Thanks for joining in everyone!

Can you use ctrl-F on the LSAT-Flex? I.e., this is completely allowed and not considered cheating in any way?

I'm consistently scoring 160-165 range and my goal is 175+.

(I'm getting 0-2 wrong on LG so my weaknesses are LR and RC)

I'm prepping full-time, and I want to know if it's a good/realistic idea to set June/August 2021 as my test date.

How long should I expect to study?

Any advice/recommendation would be appreciated, thank you!

Hey guys, I just entered the PT phase of my lsat prep. I am planning on taking preptest 1-35 untimed, do blind review. And then, take full length timed test from PT 36. What do you guys think of this approach? Should I maybe do untimed from like 1-20? then from 21 move on to timed test?

Do you read? Exercise? Drink 3 Red Bulls? lemme hear it.

I'm in need of a distraction. PT 88 just went, well... :')

Hey guys,

So I just started taking pts and doing blind reviews. It took me 5 days to solve and complete blind review pt1. but I think i can do two PTs a week. how many pt a week js realistic? I am doing lsat full tjme. And my goal is to take the october tesr. thank yyou!!!

The remote version was harder for me because:

RC makes up a larger portion; not only did I do significantly better on LR, my 2nd LR was almost always better than my first (more warmed up, I guess).

I enjoy walking into a testing environment and feeling pressure to perform in that space. It's just not as easy to get adrenaline/energy up alone in the area I've been captive in for hundreds of days.

Reading on-screen can be an issue. Tracking with a finger on paper helps improve reading speed. Someone also quoted me that reading on screen is 33% slower on average. Circle back to point 1.

Chime in with your own reasons (disagreeing is ok, too!)!

I am a bit confused on the benefit of score preview for first time test takers. I understand that you can have the score cancelled if you pay the $45/$75 fee, but what is the benefit of cancelling the score? I guess my question is, if something were to go wildly wrong with your LSAT experience (internet issues, proctor U issues, etc) would LSAC allow you the option to cancel that score without purchasing the score preview? I cannot see myself cancelling my first time score unless something went horribly wrong. Is it that bad to have a "bad" score and a better score that you receive later both show up when you apply to schools? I am not sure if this is entirely coherent, I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it to spend the $45 in advance or wait to see if I need to spend the $75 after, or if something goes horribly wrong if the fee has to be paid at all... any suggestions?

Hello,

I just started doing blind reviews and I wanted to know if it is okay to take breaks between doing sections while doing blind review. From what I understand the goal of blind review is to try and understand the methodology and reasoning behind the correct answer in each question and why you choose it. Based on that, I feel like I can do that a lot better not just without a time constraint, but also by taking 10-20 minute breaks during or in between sections. Does that defeat the purpose in anyway? is this a bad idea?

thank you!

While I was doing the problem set I found the "pin" function before each answer result as shown:

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I wonder what will happen after I've pinned those. Will I be able to generate a list of those pinned questions afterwards?

(sorry I don't know how to post an image. I put a link of the image as instructed but it's not showing here)

So I was doing the timed problem sets and I found there were different theme options ranging from 7sage to standard to choose. I wonder if the "standard" here means the format that looks exactly like the real test.

Ten years ago, I had the dream to quit teaching public school and attend law school to pursue a career as an education lawyer. I had taken 4 PTs about a month before the exam and I was shocked when I scored a 138.- I had no idea that my expectation was so off the wall crazy bonkers. Then I enrolled in a Kaplan course, took the test again and got a 148. I signed up to take it again, and sat the test but canceled my score. I was rejected from every school, except one, and I didn’t go because I was a crazy delusional that some schools were better than others. I didn’t want to go into the “4th tier toilet,” so pride stopped me from attending at all. I felt then that if that stopped me then I didn’t really want to be a lawyer. I kept teaching, earned an MA in policy instead, and started a second career in higher education as a student affairs professional. Here I am again, hoping that my flex score is at least a 152, knowing that I have to put the dream away if it doesn’t result in getting into the part time evening program in my city. I have a mortgage, a child, a great husband, and hoping to move up in my current career have another child and attend pt law. Maybe we can’t have everything, and that’s what I’m trying to convey.

For what it’s worth, I have learned a ton about myself and my understanding of this test and my ability to reason. I’ve consistently been blind reviewing at a 160-165 range, so the understanding is there. I have learned to trust myself, and that is huge!

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I was listening in on podcast #4 with LSATcantwin. Around 38 minutes in he mentions the thing for him at 18 was WoW, JY mentions Diablo 2. I put countless hours into Diablo 2, but I definitely don't see myself able to put in that time now. That doesn't mean I'm not hype for the remaster. Every now and then I'll play an hour or two of apex or warzone just to break from the routine.

What was a guilty pleasure for you (and maybe still is)?

Hi All!

I got a 163 on the LSAT in November 2020. I applied to schools but was not accepted where I wanted to go, so I am thinking of re-applying for the next year. I want to take the LSAT again in June.

Any tips for how I can raise my score until then? I'm reaching for a 168-170. Please help. Thank you.

it's a shot in the dark but are there any fellow Alaskans out there prepping/testing?

I started 145 and my goal was 155. I'm now PT'ing in the low 160's with skipping a full logic game due to time. I can do them, but I've not yet truly practiced LG yet. I wrote a little reflection on my progress and some kind of SWOT analysis and am curious if I am just absolutely crazy or not. This whole thing is crazy honestly. 150 was unattainable and was a struggle. Then I quit PT's and just worked fundamentals for two months and boom. I skipped the 150's and am now scoring in the low 160's.

If anyone who has experience with going through the 160's and into "that next level" is bored, I'd greatly appreciate your opinion. I just don't want to post it publicly. Thank you.

It would be great to be able to replicate the actual test as much as possible

Based on my understanding, 7Sage's flex converter as well as that of other prep test companies are based on estimates of how they think tests have been scaled now that there are only three graded sections. When taking PTs is it better to just stick to the older scale (4 section scale) versus the new estimated conversions? I took the regular four section PT last week and then converted it using the 7Sage flex calculator. When I converted my score (using my best LR section), my score went up by three points. This is why I'm nervous about using the flex scale to grade my prep tests. Would greatly appreciate any input regarding how to grade PTs so that they best reflect your score. Thanks!

Thank you 7Sage for providing great lessons, guidance, and practices but due to financial limitations, I will need to leave the 7Sage. If I become better financial then I may return but between the stress of funds and LSAT, I am going to step away for a while. I am still going to pursue my goal of becoming an attorney but this is just another TEMPORARY delay. Once again thank you! Good luck everyone.