Hey you all! I am wondering what you guys are doing for studying. I am almost done with the Logic Games lessons and I am curious whether or not I should be doing practice test in between lessons or should I finish the Course first before taking practice tests? Let me know what has helped you!

I have started to study since 2020 March. One preptest a day, 6 days a week most of the times. Got 163 in the first exam, but failed at second and third one 160-161. The weird thing is I usually get 170+ in preptest. You may say that is because you have done the same test set so many times. So I tried those new, that I have never done before, and I still get high 160s and 170+. I think the time management is the problem. I didn't even get to finish RC this time especially. As far as i remember the actual test day, I always spend last 5 mins for the last passage left, which is surely one of the reasons for the big disjunction between preptest score and actual score. So I am now trying to use some other tools and methods to improve myself. Any advice?

Like title suggests. I'm currently thinking about rescheduling my Feb to April. Would like the opportunity to retake in June, but am unsure if it will be the same 3-section format FLEX. The powerscore podcast suggested that it will still be flex, but I am unsure whether the entire format will remain unchanged. Would love anyone's thoughts!

Can my recommenders see my full LSAC profile? LSAT, GPA, etc.??

I don't think I can attach an image here but something changed when I go to where I take problem sets, the buttons and stuff no longer take up the full width of my browser and for some reason have been squeezed into a small vertical area, the same when I take sections, the actual screen with the questions is really small. How do I fix this?

It is the same with other browsers that I have tried.

The deadline to postpone my February lsat is in a few days. I’m partially worried that I devoted too much time to RC and LR that I let my LG slip (previously a consistently -0 section). Now I score around -0 to -2 typically but have had some awful ones up to -6.

Is two weeks too short to bring my LG back up to -0 when I had been there before? I truly don’t want to postpone this exam for a second time (been pushing off since November lol & already have talked to work about taking off). I also have to extend my 7sage if I postpone til April as it will have been over a year. Am I just a bit burned out causing me to have lower LG sometimes? Part of it just seems to be that I have lower confidence in LG than I used to & so I waste more time than I used to which has lead to missing points/timing issues. I’m also not sure if my potential burnout would get any better if I study past a year for this exam, not sure if anyone has any thoughts on that.

Even with this sometimes lower LG, I’ve had some PTs turn out (a recent 175 with -2LG & a 178 with -0LG) but also some max lows for me (a recent 169). For context, I scored a 170 on my October exam which was lower than my average but I had a shitty test experience with noise & WiFi. My average over all PTs in the past year is 172.x, range 168-178.

I am applied for Fall 2021 JD program at my home city University. I took the the January LSAT-Flex for the first time. I know completing the LSAT this late put me a greater risk compared to early applicants (For my school). Especially since January is the cut-off month for LSAT scores. However, I was highly motivated to give it my best shot with a 3.5 month study period. Leading up to the last two weeks before the exam I was finally making break-throughs averaging between 150-155 on my practice tests and rising. The last week before I took the exam I was in ultra-drive mode, caffeine, late night hours, the whole shazam (looking back, this was overkill). I was really aiming to overcome the 160 curve to balance out my application.

Today I received my Flex scores. Without going into too much detail about how it went on test day the straight forward answer is: I completely BOMBED it and I mean completely. I landed in the 130s (lower than my diagnostic test). I am still putting together the pieces of what happened. But for the most part my mind wasn't there on test day. Test anxiety took over and I consciously was out of my body. It was a terrifying feeling. I felt like Goliath getting slain by David. It was tough.

Since it was my first LSAT ever. The LSAC allows first-time test takers to preview and cancel their scores after release date. This option is available for me. However, this test will be my only score on file. Should I cancel my low score and accept defeat for getting in this year? I know the University I am applied to has a holistic admissions process and will look at the whole package. But landing in the 130s... this seems way out of the scope to even think I have a chance.

Thank you for taking the time to read my experience. Any opinion on this will be greatly appreciated.

To be honest, I was fearing the worst for this test. I made some bad, stupid tactical errors and really had to grind it out. Sightly disappointed in that, but happy with my recovery. It goes to show that the work you guys are putting in over the months can save you from disaster on test day. Wish I had at least hit my average but relieved to have a viable score to apply with. Quick stats below but more to come...

Started June '19 KA diagnostic 154

July '19 158, stopped studying and applied... ended up R&R'ing.

Restart Jan '20 joined 7sage

Feb '20 post CC PT 161

Bunch of proctorU BS through the summer,

Nov '20 169

Last 4 PTs 176/180BR, last 10 average 174

Jan '21 172

Thanks to @"Cant Get Right" who taught me the value of deep review, @Mike_Ross who helped me develop those mechanical question type strategies early on, and the man @"J.Y. Ping" whose voice even my kid recognizes now. Also all the great people here I've been able to work with... too many to mention, and I'd probably forget someone so you know who you are. You all were essential in getting here.

Hi everyone!

I have my LSAT Flex in 2 weeks, and I have taken lots of practice tests. My last two scores have been a 170 and a 169, in that order. With that said, my 169 was because I missed 8 questions all from reading comp, which rarely happens for me. Anyone have any tips on how to get myself ready from here on out to get a 170+? I plan to take only two more practice tests because I do not want to stress myself out much before the test. Thanks :)

I am planning on taking the June and August 2021 tests. I am assuming the June test will be a Flex, although I am not so sure about August. I live in California and some colleges have already announced fully online classes for Fall 2021. Should I be taking 3 section timed practice tests to simulate flex conditions, or 5-section tests just in case? Only asking bc for Flex, LR isn't weighted as heavily, neither is stamina, so the way I will focus my studying will be different. What are you guys doing for those who are applying for the 2021-2022 admissions cycle?

How are you feeling? How are you doing? How is your heart? How is your mind? How is your body? How is your soul? How is your spirit?

I know that studying and practicing for the LSAT can be stressful and time consuming. One of the things that I have grown to cherish and value is self care and checking in with myself multiple times a day. I have been stopping, pausing and slowish down in between study times to just be still.

Wanted to encourage you all to take some today to reflect, process, and respond to the questions above however you like. Whether through journaling, singing, rapping, painting, silence etc. Care for yourself, your body, your mind, your heart, soul and spirit. Please do not let this time of studying consume you to the point of neglecting your self and soul care.

Would to hear how you are caring for your being today. Praying for us to successfully get through this process (smiley face).

Take care!

Grace A.

Thank you 7sage and JY.

You have changed my life.

My first attempt in trying to study by myself was a utter failure. I studied for over 2 months and took the November test. I received a 146.

Then I decided to spend that extra money and invest in a teacher. My only regret is not doing it sooner. I went from a 146 to a 155 in just less than 2 months.

JY, thank you.

You really do change lives with your teachings.

I looked for a way out in my darkness for a really long time. My only way through was LSAT. It was my chance to escape. I wish I could go in more detail but I'll keep it short.

JY, LSAT, Law school, my life is about to change.

I usually don't write anything like this on a public forum but I needed closure.

Goodbye LSAT. It has been the hardest thing I ever had to do. It was a self-battle all the way. I cried and cried and cried.

I told myself I could do it and I did.

I wasn't aiming for the sky but a 155 still seemed so impossible.

This was all I needed and now I have it.

I will forever be grateful. I couldn't be happier.

If you're reading this and you feel like shit. You can do it. If I can, anyone can.

Goodbye 7sage and to the best teacher I ever had.

This morning I've been seeing a lot of disappointment posts- a lot more than usual after scores are released. In any case, I just wanted to make a brief post that will hopefully expedite the grieving process and get you back on the horse ASAP. Also, full disclosure, I also received an official score that was significantly lower than my avg PT back in October, so I can fully relate.

First and foremost I want to preface this just by saying that everyone studying for this test and grappling with the mentally taxing beast that is the LSAT deserves recognition, so give yourself a round of applause. Most of us out here do not fall into the rare group of people that have a natural (or nurtured) aptitude for this test and as a result have to work hard to get our scores up (not to say the others don't, it's all relative). In any case, seeing a lower score after all that hard work can feel, as many have put it today, "devastating". But as they say in theatre "the show must go on" (in case you are wondering, no, i'm not a theatre person). Keep in mind that a lot of (dare I say most) of the 7sage success stories did not get their amazing scores on their first attempt and would not have gotten them had they given up after a disappointing score- food for thought.

Now, for those struggling with motivation or questioning whether law is no longer the right path (solely because of an LSAT score that does not reflect the hard work they've put in) do yourselves a favor: take at least a couple days off and pick up the book "Can't hurt me" by David Goggins. This book was recommended to me by someone who helped me, and boy did it light the fire under my ass.

Lastly, I know this test has the ability to consume your entire life (been there). So please, take care of your health, go outside for walks or runs, hit the gym, get your skin some sunlight and make sure you do non-LSAT related things.

Yes, this test is important, but it is just that, a test.

Good luck!

Hello guys,

I tried calling, emailing and now writing in the discussion to get a response to my subscription issue and haven’t heard back from 7sage staff in a few days. I renewed my subscription 1/29 and the new one was supposed to start 2/1 but hasn’t been working and still no response to my calls/emails from 7sage. I hope they see this I have the invoice number and all.

Thanks

My study schedule wants me to basically go through all of the Logical Reasoning sections before I even look at logic games and reading comp... However, I average -4 on a full section and am getting nailed by logic games. My reading comps Im getting 6/7 wrong and I haven't even started that portion of my syllabus. Should I continue to do Logical Reasoning, or go into logic games and get better at that bc I heard its where people make up most of their points.

Never give up 💪🏼

I studied from April to November (30+ hr/wk). Took Nov Flex scored 168, I wasn’t willing to give up on the 170+ dream. Started studying rigorously again after 3 weeks between my Nov Flex and score release. Took Jan Flex and earned a 173! I hope this post motivates people to never quit and never settle 🙏🏼😎

I can’t thank JY and the fantastic team at 7Sage enough, couldn’t have done it without their fantastic resources!

Just wondering for those who have sat the flex before: how long do you get in-between sections? I know there is no break, but when you've finished a section are you just automatically flung into the next section or is there like 10 seconds to calibrate before the next section?

Did you get to the point where the test becomes almost easy, or do you consistently feel challenged? I picture J.Y. being able to do it in his sleep. "Nope." "Wrong." "Don't care." "What does that even mean?"

After taking the LSAT for a third time and getting a stagnant score. I decided to take the test again in april aiming for fall admission still. Any advice?

I'm still going through 7sage material, but I'm not seeing much of an improvement in my regular score/BR score. I've been studying 7sage material almost every day since November, but for some reason when I sit to take a full test it's not sticking. (I had been using other studying materials before 7sage since July)

When I practice a few questions at a time, it's easier for me to get them right, but not a whole section.

Am I doing something wrong? I'm going through the core curriculum + taking one PT every 2 weeks. I BR the next day + review and log each question I'm getting wrong. LR is easily my most difficult section, then RC, then LG.

Is it better to focus on a question type for a couple of weeks and then move on? Or focus on a question type for a couple of days and incorporate it the more question types I learn? I feel like I get a good grasp of a question type, and move on just to get them wrong on the PTs I take and I don't know why. I'm re-watching lessons as well, but I feel like I'm not studying smart and there's a better approach. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share my story and how its coming to an end. About 2 years ago I started my LSAT journey, thought this was a beatable test and gave myself two months to study. Fumbled hard on the real thing, I did not finish any section and remember circling "E" for probably half of the test questions.

That was a wake up call, I questioned my self worth and if I would ever be able to perform well on this test.

I gave up and worked full time. After working sometime as a supervisor in a warehouse, I realized I was working 60hr weeks and making a shitty salary and had no time for myself. I was stuck in the rat race for little reward. I didn't graduate top of my class to be in this position, I graduated top of my class to give myself the best shot I could to get into law school.

So I reflected on why I started my goal 4 to 6 years ago, and that was to get into Law school and make a difference in my community.

With this in mind, I quit my full time job to pursue studying for the LSAT. It was still a rocky road because I found I would burn out after studying 1 or 2 weeks.

But I kept trying and the longer I studied the more I saw patterns and the more I improved. I managed to eventually PT around 155, my goal score being 160+. With a daughter soon coming into this world, the January LSAT was probably my last shot before having to move on and become a father and take care of my growing family.

I finally completed the LSAT and had mixed emotions on how I performed. It felt easier than what I PTed, but after reading the comments online of people typically PTing 165+ saying it was difficult and it had weird questions made me question my performance. Although, since this being my last take, I never once thought to cancel.

This morning I checked my score and I got a 160, out performing my average PTs and enough to secure a spot in my top choice school.

Thank you 7Sage for being such a wonderful community and for those who are still on their journeys, find that reason why and once you do, it will keep that fire burning and should make the process much easier and enjoyable.

Good Bye 7Sage.

P.S. 135 --> 160 (25pt improvement) studying on and off over 2 years.

I've been studying for the LSAT for a long time. At this point I have taken it 6 times and not once scored even remotely close to my PTs. In fact, before January I was scoring mostly high 160s, low 170s and got a 157 on the actual test. I wasnt nervous, I didnt have any hiccups, and it did not feel hard. Usually I am a great test taker. Yet I cannot get even CLOSE to my PTs. I don't know what to do anymore. My highest official score is 161 and it is nowhere close to any of the universities I would consider attending.

I don't know what to do or how to explain this outcome.

What do I do??

What a freaking journey!!!! I just wanted to say thank you so much to 7Sage. I received my January score, I got a 164!!!! I could not be happier. Literally a 27 point increase from my first diagnostic exam! Wow! This test prep seriously changed the game for me and I am so grateful! Please keep doing what you're doing. A few pieces of unsolicited advice to anyone currently studying:

Logic Games:

This was my worst section turned favorite. Folks are not lying, it is literally the most learnable section. Put in the work and you will see how repetitive they are. I would do a game of varying difficulty every morning for months like morning sudoku. It worked. I was consistently receiving (-2/-1) after not understanding a thing about logic games before.

Logical Reasoning:

This was second best for me. This section had the most variance in difficulty, but was most interesting to study. All weakening questions are not made equal lmao. But after each PT, I would count the top 3 question types I got wrong and drill those types from the 90s and early 00s prep tests. I would say study the concepts, but mostly practice pays off here. I think you just gain a hunch of what the right answer is after a while and then if you don't see your hunch, choose the next best thing, then pray lol. Oooo also, JY has an AWESOME video about LR, where he makes an analogy about a fruit tree. Questions 1-10 are low hanging fruit, 11-20 are a bit of work and 21-25 are the high reaching fruit. That helped me strategize this section more efficiently.

Reading Comp:

Also known as, I hate everything about this section lol. I tried everything, I read the Economist, psychology and scientific articles, daily meditation lol. But this section to me comes down to prep with a bit of luck. Some passages are just more interesting than others to you on that particular day. The best advice I could give is to FOCUS, do reading comp when you are most alert during the day and convince yourself that you care about what you are reading! When it hit home to me that each passage was literally 4 paragraphs, I was like "OH! This really isn't that much information," I stopped taking notes and highlighting and retained all the info in my head. If there was a definitive structure to the passage, I would make note of that or if I saw an obvious view point, I would highlight. But most things in RC I found were underlying and unstated. This worked for me. I noticed the most jump when I stopped reading to answer questions and started reading just to understand.

Most important thing I did was to try to enjoy the process. This sh*t is hard. Celebrate every win. I kept a folder on my computer of every hard question I got right or a 10/10 on a hard drill or even when I was impressed by how clever a question was. It helped me to build my confidence. Literally you have to nerd out guys and give in to this process. Again, you got this! Your hard work will pat off! See you on the other side. (3(/p)

Hi everyone! I received my score today and I'm so disappointed. I scored the same as in November. I'm usually a pretty confident person but after this whole LSAT journey, I have to admit it affected my confidence a lot. Even though I am not satisfied with my test results, I have taken this exam twice. It's time for me to move on from this and concentrate on making the best out of what I got. This 7sage community has been so helpful and encouraging, thank you to everyone who has responded and helped through my times of uncertainty and insecurity. I hope that you all get to live out your dreams and achieve the goals you have set for yourself.

Good luck !!