Like for instance, 50 min studying and 10 min break. What do you do during this break? and why? I sometimes end up taking a nap for hours when I just tell myself to lie down for 10 min. Do you have any recommendations for things to do during break time? Thanks!

When on this page, https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/

scroll down to the chart that has all the different percentiles and pick any number wrong and hover over the scale score so it creates the pop-up box and the number wrong with-in the pop-up box won't match the number wrong on Y-axis.

I Think the problem is because on the Y-axis where it has the -0 row, it is dates instead, so all the numbers are shifted down by one. For example, when you look at say a -20 on PT 89 on the Y-axis and hover over the correlating scaled score, within the pop-up box it will say -19, not -20.

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With a little less that a month to go until the January LSAT I am wondering how much people tend to increase their scores during the final month of study. Right now I typically am PTing about 164 with my highest being a 167. I am shooting for a 170. I know I have the ability to do it and I just need to really commit and set my mind to it. I have taken off work for the first few weeks of January so that I will be able to solely focus on the LSAT during that time and with working from home at the moment I still have a decent amount of time to study throughout the end of the year.

I'd love to hear about people's experiences during that final month of study and what their actual score was compared to what they were PTing a month prior.

Thanks and good luck to all.

Hi everyone,

I have been studying for the LSAT for almost a year. I started with the LSAT trainer, then Princeton review 165+ courses, went through the Powerscore books and even self studied. I had been getting 150-155 on my PTs. I took the August flex and got a low 140. Then, I had hired a tutor for loads of money and I did the November flex. I was aiming for a high 150 as I had consistently gotten a score around there. I ended up with a 145. I have now purchased 7sage and I'm half way through the course material. I have done about 30 PTs now and I am taking the test again in January. This is my final shot to push hard and I'm aiming high. This is my only priority and I am focusing on solely the LSAT from now on. I have reluctant to post as I have on other forums and have gotten lots of negative feedback and genuinely negative comments. The 7sage community seems super helpful and positive in the forms, so I just wanted to reach out and get any advice I can. I am horrible at RC, I do super well on LG and I do okay on LR. I spend the entire day studying, maybe (13-14 hours a day). Any tips and/or positive encouragement is most welcomed haha. Wishing everyone the best of luck for any future LSATs they may have to take!

Hi all,

Does anyone have tips on studying for an online test? How are you taking the practice tests? How are you doing the drills? Are you printing anything out, or is it all digital? I've never taken a digital test and am very pessimistic about the format.

I'm hoping fellow Sagers can share some study tips that have helped them make the adjustment.

Thanks!

Hi y'all

Im new to this website, and Im not sure where i should take the blind review quiz again.Does anyone know?

Thank you.

Isn’t it a bit silly that they created new, more intellectual sounding words for things which already exist? It’s a d*** passage! Just call it that, you pretentious assholes!

Also, “question stem” instead of question? They might as well call talking “idea exchange” and thinking “stimuli sorting.”

Haha, sorry. Rant over. Logical reasoning is kicking my ass.

Good luck on your studies!

Hi All - I had a few questions regarding the FLEX format and would love some insight from anyone who has taken it. Please feel free to post your own questions as well !

-What was the format like ? Is it similar to 7Sage ?

-Is there a highlighting feature / writing feature?

-If I take a PT on lawhub - is that in the FLEX format ?

-In regards to scrap paper - I know we are allowed 5 sheets - but for LR , diagramming etc, did you have enough room on your scrap along with enough room for LG?

-Any general advice / tips at all would be great !

Hi everyone! I have been studying for over a year and am preparing to take my second LSAT next month. I'm so proud of myself because I have improved about 14 points through self-study. I am now in the high 160s and have been here for about 3 months. I know I can improve but I've really struggled to make that final jump into the 170s. I'd love to hear advice from folks who have accomplished this. Thank you so much in advance for the help!!

#help How often should I be taking practice tests? Thanks!

Is this a thing? I know I can go to "existing problem sets" but that only shows the LR questions I did in the CC and any of the logic games I've done. I did an LR section yesterday and closed the window and I don't know if there is anyway to get back to my answers, don't remember which ones I got wrong.

We all know that social media engagement can be a source of validation in what we're posting on Instagram or Facebook, but I never thought that I could feel so validated by having some of my comments liked on 7sage.

For months I have been refraining from commenting too much on explanation videos because I thought I had nothing to say that hasn't already been said. I've also just been really intimidated by the geniuses on here lol. But I was exploring 7sage today and realized that I could view my past comments under the "Discussion" tab. And some of the comments I've made have actually been helpful to others! I have a few likes here and there and even a reply that my comment helped another student understand the question.

I've been so intimidated by everyone on here that I've refrained from really engaging in some of the discussions. But as it turns out, I actually have a solid grasp on at least some of the concepts on here! And I'm sure that's the same for so many people on here. I know JY says this at the beginning of the syllabus but I'm on here to reiterate it: don't be afraid of adding in your two cents! Even if you're not PTing in the 170's, you have useful and informative things to say that can help other people.

I just received my best score yet on a PT and also just received validation from some of my "likes" and I can't help but think maybe I'm on the right track after all. :')

Hi! I'm new here. Is there a way to take PTs on 7sage that are flex? The course that I was using before would do the full length LSAT PTs but would take out an LR section and the experimental to resemble the flex test. Is that a possibility on 7sage?

So I took the J07 test as recommended and I got a 141/156 BR. Yikes.... I feel like trash...Clearly, I have sooo much work to do. I am aiming for the high 160s/170 would be a dream come true. I guess I am curious to know how others have done on their diagnostic?

Hello all,

I just started with 7sage a few days ago. I am currently following the syllabus according to my test day. I see I have to go through lots of practice and videos to get to the end, almost 60 hrs. per week. however I see that others are commenting that is best to take a diagnostic test to see where I stand and that way focus on the material am having more trouble with. can anyone point me on the right direction? as to where is this test located ( i have search the site and don't see anything label as diagnostic test) all I see is a list of pre-test, if those are it, then which one do I choose?

thanks

Hey everyone! So I have been going through some of the free trial material and I think have decided that I will be signing up for ultimate+. My question is why does the schedule have you take all prep tests back to back once you go through the lessons? Is it common or should i take prep tests in between weeks? Should I also take the 2007 LSAT diagnostics test first or go over some material before taking it?

Thank you!

Hello everyone,

Coming to the community for some advice! I am planning on applying to law school November 2021 and have been studying since June 2020, with breaks in between and doing an internship full-time. My internship is transitioning to 20 hours per week until the end of January and I will be done with it then. Next steps after that is to find full-time employment to sustain me until Law School and study for the LSAT. For 2021 I am part of law fellowship that will be preparing me for the application process and they make us take the August 2021 LSAT and encourage us to to law school by November 2021. The fellowship will be providing a powerscore class from June- August; I have currently been using 7sage, Loophole and in the past Blueprint (not for me).

I was considering on taking the January 2021 LSAT but my score is in the mid-140s and want to get it at 165 for admissions. Do y'all recommend taking the test at least once before the August test date and push the January test date to February or April, or build up my score for the August test date.

I would appreciate any advice on how to schedule my studying! Thank you

Just started seriously studying 3 days ago, and plan on taking the LSAT in April. I purchased a 7sage sub today but it's telling me I would need to study 57 hours a week. I could probably swing 20 hours a week but that's it. Do I have enough time?

Planning to take in January, currently PTing in the mid 150s. I usually end up with LG -7ish/LR -9ish/RC -13ish. Blind reviews usually end up in the high 160s/low 170s. Scouring discussion boards/forums tells me that means I have a grasp of the fundamentals and for the most part know how to get to the right answer, it's just a matter of getting to the answer quicker. What are some ways that helped speed up your question answering process? I've seen people say that untimed or modified timed (say 40-45min per section) allows you to focus more on process/accuracy, and though it may seem counterintuitive, being able to lock in your process will speed things up. On the other hand there's the fact the LSAT is a timed test so the best way to practice for it is by timing yourself, plus the blind review is an untimed take anyway. Thanks for any feedback!

I scored a 180 on the July 2020 LSAT (it was my first time taking it) and I’m writing to share what I did. I was very encouraged by the 180 experiences that I had read online, and I wanted to write something similar before the memory faded away. If you’re reading this, hi! I’m so glad you’re here! I hope this helps.

Some background: I decided to go to law school during the summer before my junior year, and I wanted to go to a top school. As a double stem and philosophy major I had a GPA below every T-14 median, so I knew that I had to hit the LSAT out of the park.

I started studying in mid-December during winter break my junior year with a 164 diagnostic. I finished the core curriculum at the end of January and scored a 170 on my first post-curriculum PT. By mid-February, I started taking a full, timed practice test about every other week. I treated every practice test as a dress rehearsal—timed conditions, 15-minute break, printer paper and my favorite pens, a bottle of water. (I was prepared to switch over to pencil at some point, but I lucked out when the flex was announced. I got to use my pens the whole time!) I also practiced the first 30 tests I took with 33 instead of 35 minute sections, which helped me learn to pace myself. If I had a headache, wasn’t feeling my best, or really tired, I wouldn’t test. It was very important to me to try and simulate the headspace that I was going to be in during the test itself—practicing bad form, I thought, wasn't a good use of my time.

From February to about June I progressively went through the problems sets as I got better at them. I did most easy sets in Feb and saved the medium and hard sets for later in the spring. I gave myself 100% extra time during the difficult sets (I knew that I would have that kind of time for hard problems during the test) to really hone my intuition on rare problems.

In all, I took 49 practice tests. From late Feb-May, I took one about every other week (for maybe 20 tests). From mid-May (when the semester ended) to July 12th (my test date), I took another 29 (!) tests, about 3-5 each week. I do wish that I had done those first 30 practice tests earlier rather than back-ending my studying as much as I did, but it was workable. For me, taking tests was absolutely the best way to improve. I had a major breakthrough after taking 30 tests mostly because of improvement on LR. By 30 PTs, I began nailing obscure but recognizable question varieties (like certain types of flaws, subtleties in the causation questions, stuff like this). In the first 30 PTs I was usually scoring between 170-174. I staggered the tests so I was doing a mix of old and new, taking PT 41, 51, 61, 71, 81, and then 42, 52, 62, 72, 82, all the way through 49, 59, 69, 79, 89.

When I kicked my studying into high gear in late May, I was aiming for a 10-PT average of 177 (which was my avg BR score). I was taking summer classes and I studied for 1-6 hours a day depending on what I felt I could do productively. I got a 177 average by mid-June and was consistently scoring scoring 173-179. I scored my first 180 in July, ten days before I was slated to test, and my second 180 a few days after that.

Even though I was doing so many tests, I never came close to burnout. I think this was because I never forced myself to study—if I needed a day off, I would take one. Besides that, I felt really absorbed in my studying, like I was learning something new or doing something productive the whole time. I really cannot thank 7Sage enough for this. The videos (which I always watched on double speed), the gamified analytics bar, and the really lovely testing and BR interface made it so freaking easy to study, and I felt like I was always making the most of my time.

I think the thing that really got me through the blind reviewing was the sense that all of the questions are doable, and all of the answers are clear. I absolutely refused to write off difficult questions as oddballs or one-offs, and I spent time in BR internalizing all of the answers so that they seemed completely, patently obvious to me. (Sometimes this meant spending 15 minutes on an LR question. Rarely, it meant spending an hour on an RC question.) If I wasn’t satisfied with the explanations already in the comments, sometimes I would add my own.

Speaking of blind reviewing, here are some things I did by section:

LG: I would do all the games again in BR. At first this meant figuring games out for the first time and correcting lots of mistakes or (for the tricky ones) finding a better way to organize things. When I got better at games this meant redoing the games quickly to sanity-check my answers, and redoing the hard ones until they felt easy (maybe 2-3 times).

LR: Taking 30+ tests really, really helped me improve on this section. At one point it was my best, and I consistently missed zero or one. After 30 practice tests I would thoroughly blind review only the questions I starred or missed since I felt comfortable about all the others. (Again, staying motivated meant using my time really productively! I didn’t BR questions that I was confident in.)

RC: This was an absolute beast for me, and it took me a long time to improve. Even up until my test date I was missing 1-4 questions on this section. What helped me improve from 3-7 missed to 1-4 missed was to force myself to spend 2.5-4 minutes on the passage (longer than felt natural) really absorbing all of the structure, and then answering the questions somewhat quickly. The main reason this helped was that I could remember where to look for details when questions asked for them rather than guessing or rereading whole paragraphs. (Speeding through was very difficult because I would often feel super unconfident on many of my answers, but it was still the best strategy.) In BR, I spent a lot of time internalizing the differences between the best AC and worse ACs on the confusing curve-breaker questions, and this helped me miss fewer of them.

About a month before the test I changed my schedule to include a morning routine. I got used to doing an exercise routine, eating lunch, and then sitting down to do a test, taking it at about the same time during the day that my actual test was scheduled for. (The workout was a lifesaver on test day since I was so full of white hot terror that I needed something to distract me!)

On test day, I get a decent sleep and wake up full of jitters. I do an extra-long exercise routine to help keep myself busy, eat a pasta lunch, and sit down for the flex test. Despite feeling prepared I am visibly shaking and can’t think lucidly because I am so nervous. Thankfully my first section is logic games. I crank through the first three games, and I calm down gradually as I take the test. The last game is wickedly difficult and my nerves didn’t leave me with a lot of extra time. I leave the section highly unconfident on one question and shaky on maybe three. (I still think that I did miss that one question, but everyone’s allowed one miss).

The next section is LR, and it’s a relatively easy section. I get through it with a bit of time to spare, and very quickly double-check all of my starred questions (the one question I am least confident about is a strangely worded number 7, oddly enough—I must have spent three minutes on it).

The final section is RC, and I only just finish the section (I almost always take up the full time on RC, and I practiced with the expectation that I wouldn't have time to double-check anything) but I feel pretty good about it.

And so I got a 180. It took a lot of studying and a lot of luck—things likely would have turned out differently if I had gotten a RC right off the bat or if I had really fudged that last logic game. But my preparation helped me muscle-memory my way through the test even with such terrible nerves—I could really fall back on hardened pattern-recognition. (The LSAT is a very learnable test!) I didn’t set out to get a 180, and I always knew that it was unlikely. My aim was to study enough to consistently hit a challenging but achievable “goal range,” which in my case was 175-180. I could have just as easily gotten any of those scores or lower.

On another note, my lovely partner was studying for the LSAT at the same time that I was. Early on we made the decision not to share any of our practice test scores besides vague reports, like “I got a new high score!” or “I scored in my goal range!” This turned out to be a really great decision! It freed us from comparing ourselves, and it allowed us to be really supportive. (We celebrated the heck out of our scores together when it was all over, though! They ended up with a 177!)

For those of you who have already taken the lsat, how did your average preptest score relate to your actual score? In other words, say I want to score a 160 on the actual test, what should be my average score on preptests? (Also, this is referring to the flex)

Anyone else find PT 80 difficult? I know it probably has to do with my test conditions when I took it but oh boy I was averaging 169 these past few tests and dropped to 160 on PT 80 oh boy....tips or words of encouragement?

Does anybody know (or have a guess) if LSAC is planning to keep the FLEX throughout 2021 or after April Flex will actually go back to the 4 hour exam?

I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth practicing all four sections + an experimental

I think it would help me with my stress and focus on the exam if I can read passage out loud . But is it permissible?

I decided sort of late in the game that now would be a good time to go to law school. I registered for the October 2020 test in July. I got a 167 on my diagnostic test. I studied with Magoosh (because I had a great experience with them on the GRE) but I was working full time at a restaurant trying to make as much money as possible before we shut down again so I really didn't study as much as I should have. I got a 168 on the October Flex. I felt that given that I had done well without much studying, I could re-take, really apply myself, and have a good shot at getting above 170.

I signed up for 7Sage and when I'm doing the lessons I feel like I'm learning a lot. Lots of ah ha moments. However, I've now taken three prep tests on 7Sage and scored 163, 164, and 165 respectively. On Blind Review on the first two I got a 170, but the last one I was honestly so discouraged I got kind of lazy on Blind Review and only got my score to a 168. I am so frustrated. I'm spending a lot of time studying and I've gotten significantly worse. It's KILLING my confidence and I am afraid to take the LSAT in January because I went from feeling great about it to feeling hopeless. I took prep tests July-Sept on the LSAC site and scored between 165-168. I'm wondering if the 7Sage format has something to do with it? I can't understand how I've gotten so much worse.

I've focused a lot of my time on 7Sage on LR because I felt I had the most room for improvement there, but I'm seeing no improvement and now LG is suffering. I'm kicking myself for delaying my apps when I could have applied with the 168, but please don't pile on in this regard telling me what I should have done. I really thought I was making the best call at the time based on the information I had (including my success up to that point).

Any advice?