I'm fairly good at LSAT and can pretty much -0 my way in any section on a good day. The moment the timer goes on, it can drop to as low as -11. I've been at this for 10 months; full-time devotion and looking back, I feel grossly disappointed in myself. This was the first time I really took a chance on myself; committed 100% to something. Yet, my score doesn't improve. I'm running out of PTs. I haven't had a good sleep since I started about a year ago {because that's how bad I want it }and now I feel like it's slipping out of my hands. How do you decide, "I'll just settle with what I have and take the test?" I'm not too sure because the timed sections aren't representative of my potential-but the reality is that it's a timed exam with added test day pressure.

I was scoring 163-165ish average and dipped down to 158 on my last PT, with a gross -10 on LR. It's frustrating to miss questions out of the first ten for stupid reasons.

I also miss -2 to -0 on LG whenever I retake old sections, but I just cannot seem to get my head together during the actual PT and I end up missing -5+!

My only consistent section is RC where I miss -6 or less. I know I can breach that 165-170 plane if I can just execute LG better on the test, and not make stupid mistakes on the LR.

Hey 7sagers,

With the writing portion of the exam opening in 2 days, I was wondering if any of y'all have any recommendations or advice about how to best prepare for it. The only resource I have is the powerscore article but I really do not feel like it is enough. Any other resources or advice on how to prepare for it?

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Hi everyone,

I'm planning to take the LSAT in two weeks and have been studying consistently since February. I've taken about 20 PTs so far. In the 70s, early 80s, and PT 88, I hit my target of 167+ (breaking into 170 territory). However, I'm now working my way through the mid-80s and my scores have dipped. This past week and a half, I've taken 83-87, scoring consistently at 165, which is lower than what I want. I'm now doubting whether I'm ready for the real deal, or if I'm just starting to experience some burnout. I've noticed a larger number of errors on LR in particular. Any advice on how to proceed here? Thank you!

Due to school and personal obligations, I've been studying for the LSAT on and off for about a year. I took the LSAT twice, scoring a 162 in June 2020, and then a 164 in August 2020. From November 2020-January 2021, I was PT-ing an average of 164 but with an average BR of 173. After not having studied for about 4 months, I retook the 2007 test and scored a 166 with a BR of 171.

Does anyone have any advice on what my next move should be? I repurchased the 7Sage Ultimate monthly bundle.

Should I be drilling over my problem areas or should I redo or skim the LSAT curriculum as a refresher?

I'm hoping to take the LSAT again either in August 2021 or October 2021.

Thanks!

I'm hoping someone can come and drop some much needed advice! I have a very bad problem of not trusting myself, and second guessing my answers. When I look back at the questions that I've missed, for quite a few of them, I had the right answer first, then I talked myself out of it. I know I could be scoring closer to where I want to be scoring; I just need to get over this last hurdle. Does anyone have any advice on how to stop doing this?

I originally was going to take the October LSAT, however, I am considering taking the August LSAT because yesterday I took a PT and got a 163 and today I took one and got a 167. My goal score is 172. Basically, my question is do I have enough time between now and August to get my score up to a 172? Any advice would be helpful.

I took my first diagnostic exam cold turkey and scored a 137. It's been two days and I have not been able to stop obsessing over my low score. I'm planning on taking the LSAT next June, is it still possible for me to break into the 170s if I received a terrible diagnostic score? I feel so lost and helpless.

All are welcome to attend my pity party.

Here is where I am at, I am hoping you guys can provide some insight or guidance on where to move forward from here.

I started studying in April and have been at it full time for the past 2 months. I completed the CC and have been taking 1 PT and BR virtually every day in May. My diagnostic at the beginning of this journey was 153. Most of my PT's since then have been in the 70's and my scores were steadily improving, moving up from 155 to 158/9's and I even got like 5 PT's in the low 160's! I was flying high and looking forward to writing in June and getting this all done and over with. With my GPA (3.98), a score of 159/160 should be good to get me into the school in my hometown (while I would be happy to attend other schools in my country which are less competitive, moving would be much more financially challenging for me/partner and therefore not ideal).

But I have recently been taking tests in the 80's and my scores have noticeably dropped. I am back where I started pretty much. I can tell that the newer tests are different, whereas before I had time to spare in each section, now I am struggling to finish in time and rushing through (and subsequently making more silly mistakes). The gains I have made in the LG section are fairly constant which is nice since originally they were my worst section. But in the 80s I am doing worse in both RC and LR. RC used to be my best section whereas LR has always killed me. I average about 10 wrong in LR. I have noticed that before the 80s, when I got questions wrong and I watched the video/read everyones comments, I would eventually understand why my answer was wrong and the correct one was correct. It was rare that there would be questions that I absolutely could not grasp or I could not be sold on the correct AC. But now I am finding in the 80's there are multiple questions where I just do not get or I really do not agree with the correct AC. More ambiguous I guess? To me, at least.

Anyways, a week ago when I was taking the 70s I was feeling confident to write in June. But now my confidence has tanked and I am wondering if I should defer. I have heard the 80s are more representative of what the current tests are like. If that is the case, and it follows that since I suck at the 80s I will suck at the real thing. And of course, my overdramatic brain has me thinking that maybe I should quit now since these tests have confirmed that I really do have no business trying to do this whole law school thing. Trying not to follow that train of thought but its tempting.

Has anyone else experienced struggles like this, specifically with the 80s? Is it true that they are what I can expect on the real thing? Should I indeed postpone my June LSAT? Any other thoughts or suggestions?

I started studying for the LSAT since May 1st. My diagnostic was 147. Since then, I worked on the foundations of RC and LR specifically since I had a decent/good grasp of logic games. 3 weeks later, I did a PrepTest and scored 156. Today, I scored a 160. While I'm happy about this jump, I'm afraid that these past two scores were just lucky and they weren't real representations of my learning and improvement. I'm also aware that it's very common to have some fluctuations in your score for a variety of reasons, but I would love some advice and opinions on whether I deserve to feel good about this or if I need to do more PrepTests for a more realistic idea of my progress until test day (August, in which I'm hoping to score 170+). Has anyone else had a sharp increase in their score within a short period of time? If so, how did your score change afterwards?

Hi everyone! Just wanted to share my experience in case it helps anyone out there! To start, I took an official LSAT last august with a goal of 160-162ish. I was hoping to get into some good schools but didn’t have my sight set on any top schools. However, I got a 157 :/ I decided that I felt like I was rushing my applications and with that consideration plus my LSAT score I decided to wait another year to apply. Since then I’ve been grinding out LSAT studying and I am so happy to say that I just got a 172 on my last timed practice test!! (15 point increase!) I think the best advice I can give to someone is DONT RUSH GETTING INTO TO LAW SCHOOL! Law school will still be there next year and if you take a year to prepare yourself, you’ll just end up bettering your chances of getting into the school you want. I have been studying for at least an hour (almost) everyday for the past 6 months but now that I have finally graduated and have more time, it’s been more like 2-3! I take a practice test every other day and the days that I don’t take practice test, I review my test from the day before and also do a few problem sets! I also NEVER do timed problem sets because this is the time that I use to really understand the reasoning in problems and work through them! I will keep everyone posted and you have any questions about the way I’m studying then please reach out!

Hi guys,

Just looking for some advice about the first-time test taker score cancellation policy available on LSAC. Does it make sense to do this in all cases? I'm taking the June flex and wasn't planning on purchasing it (of course also hoping I'll only have to take the test once), but I saw some people talking about how it is necessary to get it. I'm aiming 160+ if that matters.

Thank you!

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Hi all, im Jeremy and ive signed up for 7sage after I found the Khan Academy course to be a little simplistic in nature. (honestly didnt do the entire course there, just did Logic Games and decided to quit and pursue 7sage)

Ive done the GMAT before and for the GMAT its best to kind of take a mix and match of a few courses to get a competitive edge and not be caught unaware at the time of test taking

Has anyone done any other LSAT courses before reaching the 7Sage Lsat? Have you, then in that case, found that the knowledge gained there is superior/inferior or at par with this course?

Thanks in advance

Jeremy

A study friend of mine created this post. I have never used Princeton Review and am confused why said friend wouldn't at least try (through trial and error) to score the exact same answers using the NON-FLEX option, compared to posting a public question attached to my (now changed) username containing first/last name without permission. Sorry about that...

http://www.youtube.com/user/etthehiphoppreacher

hopefully this helps someone clear some self-doubt and reinforce the idea of pouring your heart and soul into this thing! good luck

For those who have experience with breaking above the low 160s plateau, what helped you?

I have been PTing and BRing for the last two months. My timed PT stats of my last 5 tests are RC: -8 average, LR: -7average, and LG:0-3. My BR is between 170-179.

Any advice is appreciated!

Hi everyone,

My name is Ken. I started aggressively using 7Sage since April, 2021 as I approached my master’s program graduation. I realized that different methods exist in how to solve these LSAT questions, and I was wondering if any of you could share your thought on this thread because I am interested in hearing more. Before I begin, I truly appreciate you for reading this discussion, as I understand that your time is valuable. Furthermore, if you do respond and put in your two cents, I even appreciate you more for sharing your thought on behalf of this matter.

Let’s begin.

My understanding is that we have different texts and online platforms to study for the LSAT. I learned from working with different LSAT tutors within South Korea that many uses the PowerScore Bible series. Some discussed in the 7Sage platform that they have tried using the Blueprint platform.

Upon doing a few diggings online and speaking to these Korean tutors, I realized there is no “one” way to approach in mastering the LSAT. Let me give you a further detail on this.

The first tutor I had was a relatively young recent college graduate. She went to Columbia for her bachelor’s and got 176 on the LSAT Flex. She got accepted at HLS. She shared that she used the Cambridge LSAT and PowerScore Bible. She told me she used 7Sage to study for the game section.

The second tutor I had was in the last semester of college. She was a student at Yonsei, and she scored 170 on the LSAT Flex. She said she only used the PowerScore Bible series to study for the test.

The third tutor is this sensei I just exchanged an email with without any consultation fee. He recommended me to use the 7Sage Core Curriculum. He told me he was scoring 178-180 on PTs until 40s and the score dropped significantly as the PTs reached 60-80.

Based on this experience, I realized I should choose which method I would like to learn from. These tutors were charging $50-$80 an hour, and it seemed inefficient for me to just hire one of these tutors and learn how to solve different sections from the LSAT, as I would need to spend a few thousand dollars to learn the skill. In conclusion, I decided that I should spend as little money as possible while still acquiring this practical LSAT question solving skills.

I mapped out that I should use 7Sage, LSAT Trainer, and Loophole to study for the LSAT. 7Sage is only $70 a month with benefit of being able to ask any LSAT-related questions on the discussion forum. The price for LSAT Trainer and Loophole combined was only $80. In sum, I believe using these two texts and platform are the most economical way to study for the LSAT.

Could you please judge my thinking?

Hi everyone!

For context: I have been prepping for about a year and am now PT averaging in the high 160's (167-168). I work full time, and various personal delays have made this a very long process. I have limited time to study during the week, and am looking to maximize my efficiency as I study for the June exam. I started with a goal of 165, so ultimately I'm happy with my score, but I didn't get this far by being a quitter and I'd love to crack the 170 barrier if I can!

I have been using 7sage to take Flex simulations and currently I'm averaging about -3-4 in each section, with some variance depending on the PT. The spooky part is that I always get 11 questions wrong (seriously, it's weird to the point of absurdity).

Other than the random curve-breaker, 180 only, questions, the only LR question types I get wrong are flaw, parallel, and parallel flaws. I am currently drilling each of them but I worry that isn't the best use of my remaining time.

JY saved my life with the logic games, but I've still had trouble going to a consistent -0.

I have never done any serious formal RC prep; I have always been an incredibly strong reader and my Economist subscription helped me up my score even further. I realized I was confusing main point/primary purpose questions, and that's because I didn't actually recognize the difference in what these two were asking. I haven't taken another RC section since learning this, but based on my previous sections I think I should see a 1-2 point improvement per section.

With all this in mind, is continuing LR prep still a good use of time? The LSAT is a skills test and I worry that I've crossed the threshold on this section's skill development, and that two weeks isn't enough to improve any further.

-Should I redirect my efforts and try to close the LG gap? Like everyone else I have seen the most dramatic score improvement in LG, but I've heard those gains tend to level off as you whittle away each last point.

-Alternatively, should I focus on RC fundamentals and try to make improvements there?

If I'm able to get five more questions right, that would put my score at or around a 172. I think that if I drill enough LG, combined with a single point RC and LR gain in each section, I can make up that gap.

Is this realistic in two weeks? Should I be working harder to cement my average? I'd rather not, but is it worth it to postpone to August? I'm personally sick of this test and I don't want to deal with a fourth section, so this is a nuclear option, but if the consensus is that I can seriously improve by then I may just do that.

I'm sorry for the long post, but any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

I've been studying for this test for a year and a half now. June will be my 3rd time taking the test, and over the course of my prep, I've taken pretty much every PT at least once. Right now, I'm scoring high 160's to low 170's, but I'm concerned that I'm getting these scores because I'm remembering the answers to some of the questions from before- especially for LC and RC. Does anyone have any advice on how to study for the test with this issue?

Hey guys! As I've been prepping for the June flex I've been trying to take PT's solely on LawHub to replicate how test day will actually be. Does anyone else hate taking them on LawHub? For some reason it throws me off so much more than taking them on 7Sage. I know I'll get more used to it and be fine, but I don't know what it is that bothers me so much about it. I feel like I never can focus as well! Ugh, it'll be fine though- just wanted to see if there were any like-minded individuals in the 7Sage realm about this.

I unfortunately burned through most the more recent PTs in the 65-80s but have to take this summer off anyway from studying ... how long would you wait to retake the most recent PTs as an accurate indicator? Is 3 months enough to forget?

I have been studying following the core curriculum and am at about 70 hours. I am feeling overwhelmed trying to complete as much as the curriculum as possible. I feel like by the time I am halfway there, I am going to forget everything I learned at the very beginning. (It has taken me months!) If you have any suggestions on which sections to focus on, I would greatly appreciate it! For reference, I have issues with the timed aspect with RC and LR (anxiety) and logic games are my weakest. I took the LSAT in November and scored a 147 using Khan Academy only. Any advice helps!