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Last comment saturday, aug 01 2020

LSAT Flex vs. Standard

Hello all,

I was curious to see if anyone else who has taken the flex scored slightly lower than regular PTs? Does the LSAT flex seem to generate lower scores? And is this the reason LSAC introduced the cancellation for the August LSAT? Let me know your thoughts please!!

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Last comment saturday, aug 01 2020

Test day underperformance

Took the july LSAT and scored about 8-9 points lower than I was Pt'ing. Planning to retake in October, what are the best tips people can give me to make that improvement in the next two months to get up to 170 and not have the same underperformance

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So I'm 43 years old, with 2 little ones. Have been a teacher for the past 11 years. I am super frustrated, have been studying for the past 5 years off and on, stuck on lower 40's and with a low gpa (2.5) . I don't want to go to a fancy school, I don't care about that, I just want my JD and pass the bar in Texas. Unfortunately when I was younger didn't take school seriously, no career goals hence the gpa. I don't want to quit but failure hurts and dragging my family is painful, although my wife is very supportive. I can be a performing clown and making a living on the street she'll tell me as long as your happy it's ok. I thought I wanted this but now I have doubts. I want to be a law student because I KNOW it's challenging and will help me grow, and will be something I can use to help people on a different capacity. Teaching has been a beautiful blessing but now I want to grow and I want to know how it feels to slay this dragon! If you have solid wise encouragement or good support to give this dream up please post. I don't want to waste time with inconsiderate responses, I'm too old for that. ha! Also,just started the 7sage courses a couple of weeks ago. Thank you'll I appreciate any good advice.

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Last comment saturday, aug 01 2020

173, Thank You 7Sage!

I cannot thank you all enough for creating such a great platform and fostering an equally amazing online community. I don't have any extraordinary studying tips , but here are some small things I learned from my experience that may be useful for some people out there:

LG: July was my first LSAT, and though I was prepared, I underestimated my nerves. I was notably slower on LG, my first section, especially on the first game. If I were to do my studying over again I don't know how I would simulate the pressure, but I would really make sure I can do the easiest/easier games well under JY's recommended time consistently and had practiced making inferences upfront more exhaustively.

RC: I don't have much advice on RC. I didn't use JY's summary method nor do I read one comparative passage first then eliminate. I was always good at RC (-0 to -2 from the start) and found being very fast and then going back to flagged questions effective for me. For this method, I found being aggressive on tough questions by crossing out as many choices as possible, quickly moving on, then going back at the end to decide between two choices effective. I firmly believe the fact that I read a lot across a variety of disciplines was the main cause for my consistency.

LR: I wish I had practiced LR more effectively. In particular, I should have spent more time mastering PARA/PF questions using lawgic. I got them correct often enough, but I'd spend too much time on tougher ones, leading to less time for other difficult questions. My advice would be to almost foolproof them like logic games. One thing I did for these questions I haven't heard before is that I would replace the language in an answer choice with the language from the stimulus while reading the choices in my head to see if it fits the structure––worked well for easy-medium ones.

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  • After taking the exam but before getting your results, set a realistic score in mind for what you would retake. For me, I said below 172 I retake, above I don't. This really helped with my mental state during the two weeks waiting for results and prevented me from entering a period of half-assed study while deciding if I wanted to retake it or cramming right before a retake.
  • Personal study habits should inform how you study equally or even more so than general advice. Personally, I am prone to procrastination and enjoy working intensively, so I knew a shorter study period would be better for me (studied for a little under 3 months) than a longer timeline in which I could put off studying for days or weeks at a time. Also, I liked to do PTs two days in a row. I can offer more advice for people studying on a short timeline if anyone wants
  • Hope at least something I've said is helpful for at least one person out there! Happy to provide anymore info I can!

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    Last comment friday, jul 31 2020

    Timing Results

    I noticed that when I add up the elapsed time for each individual question of LR sections after taking a them on 7 sage (times are available under the results page) they do not add up to the time allotted for the section (34:40/26 questions). Instead, it comes to 29 minutes or so. Is the timing section under the results page reliable?

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    Last comment friday, jul 31 2020

    transcripts

    When submitting transcripts do we have have to include the transcript request form that LSAC provides us with? My school doesn't allow me to submit that form. It does it electronically and I have to input my LSAC ID number.

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    Wow, I don't even know what to say right now. I've come a loooooong way - It took me longer than most people to improve and understand the concepts, but after 2+ years of hard work and 7sage- everything has finally paid off! My biggest struggle with this test was honestly motivation and CONFIDENCE aside from the concepts themselves.

    I am so happy and grateful for 7sage, everyone on here that helped me with questions as I went through the CC especially @"Heart Shaped Box" as well as JY for doing the BR calls.

    Let me know if you guys have any questions regarding studying- Although, I'm not an expert and I am sure everyone on here is already really smart and on their way to success. Best of luck. You can do this.

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    Last comment friday, jul 31 2020

    Lsat flex

    Nervous about registering for a flex lsat if they will be doing lsat like this for a while because I have been doing practice tests the traditional five section way for a while. Do you think it will be more difficult to get a higher score with only three sections or will it be about the same? And supposedly they aren’t going to make it more difficult because it’s three sections but I honestly don’t know if that’s going to be the case lol. Also how do you think law schools will view a flex score ?

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    Last comment friday, jul 31 2020

    153 to 177

    Thank you 7Sage. JY always had me laughing, made the LSAT a fun experience for me. Sorry I’m not more excited and grateful I’m still in total shock to be honest. Would love to talk about the test in general with whatever anyone needs.

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    Last comment thursday, jul 30 2020

    Study Schedule

    #HELP

    I'm trying to set my study schedule for the Nov 14 test and it's stating that it will take me 1.3 years to complete the course. I've tried to change the weekly hours, but I'm still getting crazy study schedules. Suggestions?

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    Hi, I'm trying to re-take a PT I did several months ago on the 7sage app. Is there a way to re-take the PT without deleting my data from my initial take? (Similar to how you can make a clean version of the same problem set)

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    Last comment thursday, jul 30 2020

    October LSAT/LSAT Flex

    Does anyone know if it's likely that the October LSAT will be LSAT Flex? Also for LSAT Flex, are you allowed to use scrap paper for reading comp notes since you can't really annotate on the computer besides highlighting?

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    I'm registered to take the LSAT in October. I'm wondering if people think it would be worth it to also register for the November LSAT? I know it would really only be helpful if you scored higher, but would law schools see if you cancelled your score for the later one if you didn't do better since you can see your score before you cancel now?

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    I've been doing straight PTs/BRing for about a month now. I'm planning on taking the August test so am now taking tests from the 72-81 range and then will take some newer ones after that. I've been really struggling with the tests in this range. I've been averaging 169-172, but now I've gotten several scores in the 164-167 range. I'm looking for advice on how to get out of this slump and get back to my normal range especially since I want to score 170+ on test day. Any advice would be appreciated!!

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    Last comment thursday, jul 30 2020

    167 should I retake?

    I took the July Flex test and scored a 167. I was pretty nervous, so I think I had a harder time than I would on my PTs but I was generally scoring between 166-171. My goal score was a 168/169 to hit the medians at most of the schools I'm looking at and a170 for my reaches. I plan on applying in early October so I'd need to take the test again in about a month (August) to get my applications in. Is it worth the time I would spend studying for a couple more points (and the stress of only having a month to study) or should I focus on other parts of my application? I have a 4.1 GPA and am looking at T20 schools.

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    Hi all! I want to post an update since I sat for my second/final test and I hit my goal, increasing my score a total of 27 points from my initial diagnostic over a year and a half. I went from the 9th percentile (yes, you read that right) to the 91st percentile! It wouldn't feel right to end my LSAT journey without a final post to the community that helped me achieve this. Again - THANK YOU to the entire 7sage family; I want to give back, so please reach out to me if you want.

    Good luck to everyone this cycle and to all who are just starting out. Know your hard work will pay off, and most importantly: be patient with your brain. There are so many resources for encouragement, theory, practice etc. and it can be a bit overwhelming but you have to find what works for you. There was a point in my studying where everything just sort of clicked, and once you see the test in that degree of transparency, the whole studying process changes. It isn't that you can suddenly zero out on every section easily. Instead, it feels as though you were playing 1v1 basketball with an NBA player in a barely lit room for a couple months and the lights are fully turned on. It's still a freaking professional basketball player but at least you know what you're working with.

    Moving from stage "lights barely on" to stage "lights fully on" is attainable, but cannot be rushed. Us humans have a tendency to want to cut corners. Imagine trying to cut corners while trying to beat Michael Jordan one on one. YOU CAN'T CUT CORNERS WHEN LEARNING THE LSAT. Read that twice if you need to.

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    For a while, I thought I'd never be able to make one of these posts. I'm so so overjoyed to say that I received a 173 on the July Flex test after about 15 months of studying! I'm a really slow reader, so the LSAT was so challenging. I began around a 148 diagnostic - the exact number is uncertain since I took it with breaks between sections lol.

    I've gone through a lot of materials. I began with The LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim because I'd heard it was good for people who are self-studying. It was a good primer, but it didn't go in-depth enough to prepare me for the hard questions or teach me conditional logic. I then moved to the PowerScore Bibles, which helped me get to -0/-1 on most LG sections. My LR somewhat improved, but I still felt very unsure throughout the section and had trouble eliminating trap answers. My RC was stuck around -7/-8 even after going through the book, which was really discouraging.

    I took the February LSAT after about nine months of studying. Looking back, I should not have taken it because I was not comfortable with the test. My PT average was about 163-164. I got a 161, which was so disappointing. I decided to do what I should have done from the beginning and get a 7Sage subscription. I went through the entire Core Curriculum, even the parts I thought I had already mastered.

    I think after doing all those practice sets and seeing so many questions, things just "clicked" and seemed doable. In LR, I adopted the mindset that I was looking for the test-masters' tricks in each question and that I was outsmarting the test. RC suddenly didn't seem so daunting. I could hear J.Y.'s voice saying "well we don't know that from the passage" when looking at wrong answer choices. Follow his advice to read slowly, spend time with the passage, and answer questions quickly. By the time I got to the July test, my PT average was about 171-172, with one 175.

    I'm no expert on this test, but I've found these kinds of posts helpful in the past. Here are some tips I found useful:

    Overall:

  • Get 7Sage because it's truly the best! Don't waste money on other materials.
  • Develop and maintain a positive attitude
  • Do not dwell on past struggles
  • LR:

  • Practice untimed until you can understand the reasoning behind the correct answers
  • First five questions in five minutes, first 10 in 10
  • Flag questions and come back at the end
  • RC:

  • Read slowly (if you're a slow reader, take advantage of better comprehension up front)
  • Double check answer choices for the support in the passage if not 100% confident
  • Read dense material outside of LSAT (The Economist, Foreign Affairs, Anna Karenina, etc.)
  • Read for pleasure, limit television/phone use
  • Sorry for the long post! Good luck everyone!

    Finally, I want to say that my heart goes out to those who lost scores. I know the emotional toll that this test can have, and I hope LSAC can find more ways to help.

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    Last comment thursday, jul 30 2020

    Burn-Out…..

    just curious, what does burn out look like? Because I think I have it, and how long does it take to recover? I'm taking the test on Saturday?

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    Last comment thursday, jul 30 2020

    How to explain the LSAT

    Hey everyone, I am currently at a loss about how to explain what the LSAT is to someone who has never heard about it. I am trying to take less shifts at work explaining that I am overwhelmed with LSAT prep (taking aug test) along with my other two university courses. I feel like those who have never taken the test or prepped for it just don't understand the difficulty and instead seem doubtful of the workload a student who is prepping has and see it as an excuse.

    Super random question I know, but its something I just don't know how to explain hahaha.

    Thanks!!

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