Hi everyone,

I have been studying for the lsat for a few months (4), and I can't seem to break the 150s consistently on my PTs (highest 152). I usually average a 145, and my short term goal for now is to score a 155 by January. Does anyone have any tips for me?

Also, here are my study habits! maybe there is something wrong with that.

Monday- Friday, 10 am to 12 am = creating problem sets and doing Logic games and drilling them from the first 40 LSATs.

12:30 to 2 = looking through LR videos again (I struggle in this section the most).

2 to 3 drilling reading comp from problem sets.

I usually do 2 practice tests a week. I struggle the most in LR, and seriously need help on improving that!

So currently I'm PTing at around 140, with BR of 150, and my goal is 163.

My current plan is to Do a PT one day, BR it the next, and review my answers the following day. Ultimately trying to squeeze 2 PT's in per week.

Since there are a ton of wrong questions, do people usually review these past wrong questions on their own day? Also do people make a question bank of the wrong answers to redo them?

If you have an efficient strategy, please share as it would be much appreciated!

I’m a military spouse and I have been studying for about two years now! My scores are very competitive and I was planning on taking the January test but my husband just got word that we may be moving to Belgium for a year or two depending on the contract! I was wondering how bad it was if I took the exam but waited those two years to apply to schools? I didn’t know if the admissions offices see the dates that the exams were taken on the application! Any help is appreciated! :)

So I took the test in June and got a 163, took it again in July and got the same exact score so I canceled and signed up for October. I just got back my October score, and I got a 160... I'm feeling really anxious because it seems that it will look really bad to law schools that I did worse on a recent exam. I don't plan on applying for a few years, but I'm dreading the thought of having to take this exam again. I'm also stressing because I've taken courses and read a ton of prep material, and also took pretty much every PT. I'm at a point where I don't know what I should do.

Has anyone been in this same situation? Any advice?

I'd appreciate any input at this point.

Hi everyone, I just finished my core curriculum, and I have some strategies I want to impelement in the drilling and preptest stages and I want to talk to someone, one on one in private chat or skype or whatever medium is easier, it really helps to hear someone else's impression of my studying strategy and to get some quick pointers, I do have some friends who have done lsats who I can speak with but usually they give me very general tips and then get back to work to hit their billing target for the month lol, jk but really wondering if this practice is even a thing.

Thank you!

Sorry this is a bit late, but I wanted to give a very big shout out and thank you to JY for conducting multiple BR sessions with prep test 88. I can't tell you how incredibly helpful that was, and it was great to get to know some of the other 7sagers as we went along. JY, thanks for taking a huge amount of your time to help us get better scores. It also is quite an honor to get to work directly with you. I'm sure we are all better for the experience.

With LSAC's recent announcement that they will release lsat scores to law schools before the lsat writing review has been completed, I wonder about how this policy change will affect CAS reports.

My report is currently being held up because LSAC hasn't released my writing sample review (despite completing it before an applicable application deadlines), although my october score was released today. However, within my LSAC account, my law school report appears ready to be sent. The report status under the school I applied to says :

"Report generated: type credential"

Does this mean that the CAS report has been generated and will be sent?

Thanks!

Hello to everyone taking the November LSAT next week and I wanted to wish you good luck and tell you that we freaking GOT THIS IN THE BAG. We're gonna kill it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Apologies if this has been answered before but preparing LG drills and I noticed there have not been any spatial games in an exam since ~PT 35.

Has this been noted by LSAC / is it considered "dead?" Just trying to hone in on games before the test next week and want to make sure I am using my time wisely.

Thanks so much!

Hey so I’m just starting to PT. I was wondering if it’s normal to PT, BR, and Check answers each on different days? Since this score has tons of wrong answers (I’ve done 2 pt’s and got 140, and143), I feel like to do all 3 in one day and try another PT right after seems a bit excessive.

10/26/2021 Update: I am currently a 2L at USC Gould. Feel free to DM me questions about the LSAT, the application process or law school. My journey was far from ideal, but I hope I can provide some insight.

Overview of my journey:

I'm writing this for a bit of inspiration for anyone that is in need of it because my journey was not easy, but it sure paid off because I stuck to it.

I studied on/off for nearly two years total. My diagnostic was a 144 back in Jan 2017. After finishing the 7Sage CC, I was sitting at a 152 in May of 2017. I made sure to really take my time with the lessons and I hope everyone does the same as well--it was time well spent and I would definitely do it this way again.

Post CC was really where the grind began. I was dead set on a 170 score.

My first take: 161 in December 2017.

Second take: 161 in December 2018.

After studying for 10 months 5.5 days a week for 8 hours a day, I received the SAME EXACT SCORE.

I was actually depressed after this test. I was emotionally numb for about a month, it was rough. The following weeks post-results felt like a nightmare I would eventually wake up from. In particular, LSAT was my life at this point, and to have zero improvement on the only thing I was focused on was one of the toughest feelings out there. Most of all, I had nobody to blame but myself.

I took a two month break and got back to hitting the test hard again for 4 months.

Third take: 166 in June 2019.

Same study plan, but I used the BEST tutor, @"Cant Get Right." I'm not sure how the rules are for plugging people, but he was just phenomenal with picking out my weaknesses and helping me combat them in an understandable way. I cannot say enough great things about Josh. Here is his website. https://www.nevermorelsat.com/

Top 3 tips:

DO NOT USE ALL THE PT MATERIAL. I cannot stress this enough. I would feel so confident after blind reviewing a PT from learning an immense amount from it that I would take another right away WITHOUT drilling weaknesses. Not surprisingly, I would receive similar scores, on average, because I failed to address weaknesses. Sure I spent days on BR ripping apart questions, but what's that worth if I never addressed the underlying problem by drilling it away? Make sure to save PT material and use it wisely. Personally, I ran out and that created a ton of unnecessary problems. Without drilling in-between PTs, I would waste limited PTs on full tests to receive very little benefit from using all that material. Please don't make this mistake.

Good, bad, or otherwise, DO NOT let the overall score get to you, ever. When practicing for this test for an extended amount of time, the most important thing to know for keeping one's mental in the right place is that an overall score is simply a really poor gauge for your improvement. Seems a bit counterintuitive, right? Of course, to combat this, 7sage takes the last 5 PTs and averages them for your improvement score. Although this is more accurate, it's still a poor indicator of IMPROVEMENT. Allow me to explain why. LSAC has thousands of tricks that they use. Some happen more than others. It takes time to learn these tricks and just because you learned a few new tricks or new ways of thinking on your most recent PT BR, that doesn't mean those aspects are going to be tested again in the next PT you do. It actually would make sense that ideas being testing on in, let's say, PT61, are going to be testing totally different tricks than those used in PT60, since the previous test may have been released for people to study it. For example, LSAC is NOT likely to put two 5 star questions with a very similar small trick in them, in sequential PTs. But some people take PTs in sequential order. So while you are actually improving, you are likely being tested on the areas you have yet to ever see. So please don't look at the final score and think THAT is the measure of your improvement.

Here is an optimistic way of thinking that helped me keep my drive, despite the scores: The more missed questions, the more opportunities I had to fix problems. The more problems fixed, the less problems I could potentially run into on test day if I ran into a similar question/topic.

The only aspect that should be celebrated or frowned upon are similar questions that you've studied before/have seen and now on this second time: 1) you recognized the similarity or not, 2) you got it right or not, 3) you skipped it or not (strategically) 4) you got it correct again, but faster or not. Situations like this are a direct measure of improvement and they are key to watch out for.

This community has helped me so much. So if anyone wants to chat about anything LSAT related, has any questions, or simply wants to vent, please feel free to DM me :D

What a journey this one was and I would not be in this position without 7Sage and the community.

Thank. You.

I did PT 78 today (spoiler alert?)

I got stuck on a few LR questions I did not realize were difficult until I spent 2 minutes on them (I read the stimulus slow, but I only realize a qusetion is difficult once I get through all the ACs).

I also noticed the last RC passage was easiest, but was put off by the "science" topic (and I saw it had very few questions, so I figured it would be hard). I spent too much time on the second passage, which I found the hardest since I had no clue what was going on

I was hesitant to start the last passage because I did not want to be "jumping" aorund, or what if the last passage was harder? Did I waste all this time?

So, this sounds like a stupid question but -- how do you know when to skip? How do I know if an LR question will be easy or hard? Sometimes what looks easiest, given the stimulus and the passage, turns out to be the hardest, and vice versa.

I know when to skip games (think PT 77 game 3 lol yikes)

Does anyone have any advice on this issue? :)

they are killing my score!!!

I've been doing tiny summary of each paragraph. is this still a good idea?

HELP

Would be possible for the site to display the target time for each game in the analytics summary after each problem set or PT rather than just on the explanation page for each game? No worries if not, I just thought I'd ask!

Hi Everyone!

I have a couple of questions about the digital LSAT.

I know there are a few differences between 7Sage's platform and the actual test, but I looked at the digital tester provided by LSAC and noticed that you can select your section and the number of questions per section appear at the bottom. I am doubtful that this will be the format for the actual test (seems too good to be true), but does anyone have any insight about this?

Also, how much time is there between sections (not including the break, of course)? I am thinking it's somewhere between 5-10 seconds?

Lastly, is anyone aware of any restrictions pertaining to medications that can be brought into the testing room?

Thanks in advance!!

Hi everyone,

I have lately been feeling really defeated and frustrated with this exam and the whole journey to law school. This is my second time applying to law school (Candian law schools). I wrote the LSAT last January and got a really low score. I started studying again mid July. I have started to hit 155 untimed. My aim is 160- 165. Even a 160 would do at this point. I have realized that you need to be patient with this exam. I have been wrong to expect immediate results. That has been my biggest mistakes. This time I am taking as much time as I need to study the concepts, and learn them well. I am also focusing on my weaknesses. I feel that will really help with increasing my score. My LG score ranges 18-22, but I struggle with timings. I am scoring 13-17 on the LR. In that area I keep getting the same type of questions wrong (which is good because then I just can practice on my weaknesses).

My question is,

Am I being realistic with thinking that I can go from 155 untimed to 160-165 timed by January. I do not want to make the same mistake and assume that I will be ready by a certain time. The reason why January is an option because majority of the schools I applied to accept that as the last score. Only 2-3 schools accept the February score, which is also an option). But that would be super late in the cycle, but would get me a good score.

Any advice would be appreciated. Really losing hope at this point :(

Thanks.

Hi. I purchased LSAT Starter pack and bunch of extensions, Prep tests 83, prep tests 85-88.

In this post,

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/21740/i-bought-a-starter-pack-with-bunch-of-extension-would-i-still-see-pt-88-lg-with-this-condition

In this previous post which I tagged, a 7 Sage administrator ( I am assuming) responded that I will STILL have LG explanation video access for the Preptests I purchased and paid for even after November 15th.

Right now, I do not have an access to PT 88 and any other Preptest i purchased 's LG explanation videos, even though i paid and purchased the right to access. So I hope some fixing can be done.

Just needed to share this with someone, it has been incredibly hard to miss out on so many social events, be isolated from people and not be as healthy (neglecting gym and nutrition) as a result of studying so much! I was feeling really down today, but took a PT anyway.

The RC section was absolutely brutal, I flagged like 9 questions and was sure this was gonna be my worst score yet. I guess this also serves as a valuable lesson to never give up and not try and guess how you did mid-test, just move on and persevere!

Actually slightly upset with myself for letting myself get demotivated by the RC section. I may have been able to do way better on the last LR section if I didn't get down on myself. But either way I got a 175 and I am quite proud and excited!

I’m sure this has been asked a thousand times, but I’m all desperate and antsy for advice on my particular situation

I’m taking the LSAT on Dec 5th (due to accommodations), and I just can’t seem to improve on LG. I haven’t studied too much for the other sections and tend to average -5 on RC and -10 on LR combined. Yet SOMEHOW, despite spending two months studying for LG, I’ve only managed to get through two of the games, and on my last two PT’s, I could only get through one. What throws me off is the game board setup. I am really, really bad at recognizing what kind of game it is (unless it’s super basic and obvious), and creating an efficient game board. Also, at making inferences. I know that LG is the section that can most be improved upon, and that’s part of what makes me feel so frustrated. I should be leaps and bounds beyond where I am now, given how much I’ve studied. I know there’s a handy PDF for mastering the LG’s, and I intend to drill drill drill the next two weeks, but I’m wondering if any of you sagers have any sage advice? Is there some magical PDF out there that lists every game type and the corresponding board? Once I get the board right, the questions (usually) come easy. The setup just kills me.

Thanks!

By far my worst section is LG. My performance is very inconsistent, sometimes -2/-4 other times -9/-11. I think part of the reason my PT scores have been low is because my anxiety about doing well in this section impacts my thought patterns. There's one week left before the November test, and I thought I'd spend this week working through the hardest (4- and 5-star rated) games to improve my confidence. Do you think this is a good strategy? Is there anything else you recommend I do to improve?

So previously I PTed using newer tests in the 60s and 70s, and logic games seemed to be one of my better sections. However, once I tried taking older tests in the 30s, logic games have become harder out of nowhere for me. Do the older tests just have a harder difficulty to them or something? Anyone else have the same problem?

With the exception of my first, my PTs have been staggeringly low (150s) though my blind review hits the high 160s (one 170). My most inconsistent section is LG (I can be -2/3 or -10/11) and though I've tried foolproofing, I'm still not seeing much improvement. My LR is also somewhat crap, as I can score anywhere from -4 to -8/9. I'm beyond frustrated and crestfallen-- I'm putting in the work (I've been studying nearly full time since June) and am not anywhere near where I want to be.

Here's the problem: taking the January test would significantly reduce my chances of getting accepted this cycle because of the delayed review of my application. And yes, I'd lose $200 which sucks but that's the least of my problems.

Any advice you have here would be hugely helpful.

If you come across a MBT, for example, or if you have game boards that are completely filled in, do you automatically move on once you see your answer, or do you still check each AC to be sure?

I have a few times thought I made all the possible GBs, picked the first answer, then saw if I had kept going through the AC's that I would've noticed two possible correct choices, and realized an error.

If we are going for -0, should we trust the game boards and go on for speed, and hope an error hasn't been made, or do you still spend time checking each one?

Thanks so much!!

Please let me know your thoughts! I don't work for the LSAC, so I know that I'm not a professional. I thought writing a few questions would help my LR studies. If you have time, please let me know what you think, how hard it was, how easy it was, where I made a mistake, etc, thanks!

Heart disease, also known as cardiovascular disease,

is one of the leading causes of death in Country X.

Studies show that individuals who eat a diet high in

trans-fats have a higher chance of being diagnosed with

heart disease. Burritos, a popular Mexican entree commonly

consumed by in Country X, contain high calories. Therefore,

a person who consumes burritos regularly has a higher

chance of being diagnosed with cardiovascular disease.

The argument relies on assuming which one of the following?

A) People of Country X generally know that burritos are unhealthy

B ) If all people eat burritos less, they would invariably be healthier

C) In country X, eating foods with high calories will raise one’s trans-fat

consumption by at least some amount

D) Eating any food with high calories will result in heart disease

E) Generally, refraining from a high fat diet is better than a diet that

includes a high amount of fat

On the real exam, can you change the timer countdown so that it counts up to 35 minutes rather than show how much time is remaining in the section?