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I took the first PT after finishing the CC and while my timed score hasn't changed that much my BR score has sky-rocketed.

Timed: 161 (diagnostic 159)

BR: 170 (diagnostic 164, thanks 7Sage!)

Honestly, this PT felt very disorganized and I felt extremely clumsy through the whole thing. I just felt awkward and not smooth since I haven't taken PT's in over 4 months (this is my second time taking the LSAT). So I was extremely happy with my score of 161 and even more happy/surprised with my BR of 170.

I was wondering where I should go from here? I watched the post CC webinar and was wondering if I should continue to drill, etc. with phase 1 for awhile just to see where my BR score goes and to feel more comfortable or if I should move onto phase 2 with trying to get my timed score to match my BR score? Any tips would be appreciated!

I should note that I honestly don't really have a target score at this point. I would love the very least a 166/167 because I never thought it'd be possible for be to get a 170 but that might change now!

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I am currently registered for the June 2019 LSAT but with the exam date approaching, I have realized that my goal of improving 20 points (at least) from my diagnostic of 145 is unrealistic. I will be able to study full time starting next week (35-40hrs/week) and I am wondering if anyone has made a 20 point improvement from their diagnostic in 3 months? I will have around 3 months to study for the LSAT in I change to the July date, is my goal realistic? What about the June date? Also just provide you a little context, I am not going to have any other commitments in the next few months but to study for the LSAT and I would need 166+ (168 to be guaranteed a spot at my dream school).

Also, how helpful have the PT video explanations have been in your LSAT study. I have all the PTs from a different course which did not go as planned, and I am wondering if the 7 sage starter package is sufficient? I am just planning to use the core lessons to build a stronger foundation.

Also how does one make sure they do not burn out for studying over 3 months?

Thank you so much!!

I've gone through PowerScore LG and LR Bibles and have completed about 15-20 PTs in the last 4 months that I've been studying. I'll be taking the July 15 LSAT and if I don't get a 165+ (My goal Score) then I'll be taking the September or October LSAT as well. My scores averages are 19/25 LR sections, 17/23 LG sections and 17/27 RC sections. so I'm currently PTing around a 156.

I have just started the CC for 7sage and I also have access to LSAT Engine. I can dedicate about 20-30 hr/week to cc/pting/drilling. What's the best way to spend my time before and after the July 15 test with my resources?

Hey, Sagers! I tend to struggle in the early stages of section 1 of any PT, regardless of what it is. Who has a warm-up strategy for practice, and, most importantly for Test Day? When I took the test in November I was woefully unprepared in terms of warm-up. I reviewed a test the night before (BAD), and in the morning I actually sat in the waiting area being stumped by a nearly impossible game I had never seen before. I don't recommend that. I've heard that having a small pack of easy LR ?s and a game you HAVE done before and feel good about is a plan. I've also heard that people use the question bank feature on here to especially select easy questions and print them out all together in the same little packet. When someone who's hip to this has time, could you pretty please lay it out a plan for me? I want to have a cool warm-up packet, the coolest one ever, ready for my successful second go on June 3. THANK YOU in advance.

this is a general question, but also a question toward @"David.Busis"

I know some law schools like YLS require applicants to disclose whether they received consulting services. I think this was discussed in one of YLS's blogs (https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/new-questions)

My question is does receiving consulting services hurt one's application to YLS, or other schools that require you to disclose you received consulting services? What's the general consensus of what adcomms at like say YLS think when they see you checked off the box that said you received consulting? How, if it at all, will it affect your application?

Thanks!

I'm only able to see part of the passages/question answers.

I'm transferring (PCS) to Fort Riley this June. I am a mother of two toddlers and full-time Army. I am also going to be geographical bachelorette for the next 24 months. If any veterans at K-State or active duty personnel are interested in studying during the week please let me know. I am planning to take the test next summer.

I had technical issues and so I have to start from the beginning. Is there a way to do this?

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Feeling Overwhelmed - curious to hear your advice and any insight.

I took Blueprint as a LSAT introduction and thought the first half of the course was helpful. Then it got too advanced and I felt like my foundation wasn't strong enough yet. I switched over to the LSAT Trainer and thought it was much better. I am still spending most of my time practicing Logic Games before tackling LR and LC. I did the first LG drill sets following the LSAT Trainer schedule for PT 72 and 73, but ended up having to look up the explanations on here. Hence, why I joined 7Sage since I felt like I still wasn't learning enough from the LSAT Trainer. Now I have my study schedule but I want to skip to Intro to LG since I've been working on LG first. Any thoughts? Should I just start over from the Intro to Arguments on here and follow the schedule?

Do NOT take a PT the day after drinking alcohol. I "knew better," but I've been studying for so many months that I thought I could get away with doing this today, and it's impossible. I made it through, but I ran out of time on every section, and it made me feel absolutely miserable. Lessons will be repeated until learned. This time I think it sunk in...see you on July 16, alcohol!

We've been working on a digital tester so you can prep on 7Sage for the digital LSAT this July and beyond.

Now you can access our digital tester (Beta version) so you can practice taking PrepTests digitally. Please note that the digital tester is still in beta mode so there might be issues with it.

When you're ready to take a PrepTest, click on "Blind Review, Score and Review" for the PrepTest you want to take:

https://media.giphy.com/media/fwckUjTCXrRYlDY9Bx/giphy.gif

Note that you'll only have access to the PrepTests included in your course. Free users have access to the June 2007 PrepTest only.

Alternatively, you can also go to Analytics. Then, select the PrepTest you'd like to take and you will see an option to take the PrepTest digitally, like this:

https://media.giphy.com/media/LRHsfGjAooamlIUK0v/giphy.gif

Please keep in mind that because this is a Beta version:

We would very much appreciate it if you could let us know of any issues you encounter so we can fix them!

Hi everyone,

On Wednesday, April 10 at 9 p.m. ET, I’ll host a webinar with our newest consultant Elizabeth Cavallari, a former admissions officer at William & Mary Law School, and our own Selene Steelman, a former director of admissions at Cardozo Law.

I’ll ask them about life on the other side of the admissions desk, including questions like this:

You’ll get a chance to ask your questions at the end.

:warning: You’ll have to register for this webinar in advance.

:cookie: After the webinar, we’ll award one attendee a free Edit Once (see https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/enroll).

→ Please register for the webinar here: https://zoom.us/webinar/register/8181831f40e47792cde7dc3c8da9331e

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

Zoom might prompt you to download something before you can join the webinar, so I’d advise you to show up a bit early.

I hope to see you there!

What order of sections do you guys like the best? I always like to have an LR first for some reason

UPDATE 2:

Zoom Meeting Info:

MICHAEL CINCO is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: BR GROUP REVIEW

Time: Apr 14, 2019 3:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting

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Dial by your location

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Meeting ID: 239 433 2748

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abvKR6s9iF

UPDATE:

The games we will go over are as follows:

I tried to spread them out over the PT set so that folks at different levels of readiness can participate, we will be going over them in numerical order so if you wish to avoid spoilers from future PT's you can bow out. There's 14 games so it may take longer than 2 hours but I think it will be worth it.

I have updated the google docs and created a separate TAB for each game. As you finish the games please log your time for your first pass runs and your best foolproof runs so we can see who's done them the fastest, that can guide us in our discussion on how to best tackle the games as time is always money in real life but especially in the LSAT.

Sequencing Boot Camp April 14: 3PM EST

PT Game # Name

30 2 Mendel Jacobson (Andrew Alterio on 7Sage)

36 3 Minji Kim (minjikim)

42 3 Rachael (2ndTimestheCharm)

55 4 Michael

56 4 Michael

63 3 Michael

63 4 Michael

71 4 Rachael

75 3 Rachael

85 4 Michael

I will also be posting a ZOOM meeting invite here when I get myself setup, I figured it's far better than SKYPE for this type as we can whiteboard and draw things out as we discuss.

Hi Folks:

I know there are several group BR's currently going on where Sagers are currently getting together to BR the LR sections of PT's leading up to the June/July LSATS but I haven't seen any sessions organized for Logic Games. For Many of us who are trying to get 170+ on the LSAT (and even some who aren't) an immaculate performance in the LG section is absolutely necessary. I believe we can help ourselves and each other by trying to tackle some of the hardest Logical Games (as rated by the vaunted 7 sage 5 star rating method) and then meeting up afterwards to discuss strategies and difficulties we might have had. JY's videos are great but lets face it he's got the brain of a super computer, for the rest of us with Commodore 64's we might be better off discussing human strategies amongst ourselves.

Premise:

We collectively (through the power of googles docs) determine a set of 8 games we will go over for a given session. We then tackle and FOOLPROOF the games prior to our session so we can have an informed discussion on how to tackle these games, and any strategies we might have employed. By sharing and learning from other high performing sagers we become better. My suggestion is that we hold 4 sessions, each focusing on a game type ( Sequencing, Grouping/in and out, Hybrid, Misc),

I can host the first one of these, which I propose we do Sequencing since it's typically the easier of the types of games and we can go from there. I am proposing we meet up on Sunday April 14th via ZOOM MEETING

What games are we doing?

I am open to suggestions as to which Sequencing games we will tackle for our session, please fill your suggestions in this google doc. Since we are doing sequencing I will only choose games labelled as sequencing (including double layers, sequencing with a test, sequencing with conditionals etc)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oPXeJXudhwrqcvEH2EDhH1ssVtH83zpFP6KBODk3hYM/edit?usp=sharing

Otherwise I will just choose randomly (and by randomly I mean I will just choose the 5 star difficulty games and we will all have a terrible time)

How Do You Join Skype?

MICHAEL CINCO is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: BR GROUP REVIEW

Time: Apr 14, 2019 3:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting

https://zoom.us/j/2394332748

One tap mobile

+16475580588,,2394332748# Canada

Dial by your location

+1 647 558 0588 Canada

+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

+1 929 205 6099 US (New York)

Meeting ID: 239 433 2748

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abvKR6s9iF

Who Are you and Why are you Doing This?

My name is Michael and I am a Lawschool hopeful from Canada. My aim is to get a score of 170 on my next LSAT. My recent attempts have landed me at 161 and 166 respectively and the LG section has been my downfall each time. I want to get better and I want to help you get better so we can all achieve our goals.

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Hi everyone.

I'm having problems understanding this sentence, extracted from PT23 Section3 #10:

"If a person chooses to walk rather than drive, there's one less vehicle emitting pollution into the air than there would be otherwise."

What does the otherwise do? Is it simply just saying that if a person chooses to drive rather than walk, there's not one less vehicle emitting pollution into the air?

Thank you!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-10/

Admin note: added link

I switched over to 7Sage after completing Testmasters about a week ago and so far the only big difference I've seen has been to read the question stem first which I will do, but I was wondering if anyone has any advice about going through the Core Curriculum again. I'm scoring a 158 and a 170 BR which is my target score. I have difficulty with timing and getting through all of Reading Comp (two to three passages total) so I wanted to try the recording technique I've read about a few times in the discussion. I wanted to know if I should skip around the CC to the reading comp parts or if I should just go through everything in order. I started studying in October (scored a 141) and my test is in July. Everything seems redundant and I don't know if I'm wasting time I could be spending on actual testing conditions (controlling my anxiety and nerves under timed conditions).

After over a year of prep, I finally broke into the 170s on my PTs! My diagnostic was a 147 and for a very long time I was convinced a 170 was well beyond my reach. While PT scores don't necessarily predict how well you'll do on the real thing, breaking a plateau I've been sitting at for months is huge for me. These plateaus have a way of tricking you into believing you have reached your LSAT potential. But this test really does reward patience and methodical blind review. My journey is far from over but thanks to 7Sage and its wonderful community I already accomplished something I once assumed was impossible.

@studentservice

Would it be possible for the recommended time for each game in LG to be added to the main page instead of having to click on the individual game's explanation? I'm documenting my timing and answers on a spreadsheet, and it would make it a lot easier if you would include the timing next the average score. TY

I took the March test, but my goal was to take two test this year, i'm having a baby late June, and the June 3rd test seems really close, and the July test, well i'll have a newborn to deal with so I'm thinking go for the September test. (even though i wanted to avoid the digital) My game plan, is to start from scratch, zero out my CC and start from scratch really get back to the basics and get the core down 100% and then start the PTs again, does that seems like a waste of time? I need some advise here guys.

Hey, friends. This is happening. For real. A few of us are getting together (for coffee, booze, snacks or chocolate) to commiserate and/or talk about study strategies, pitfalls, etc. I bet I'm not the only one frustrated with this process. I've definitely shown improvement, but then as soon as I think it's smooth sailing in one section or another, I have a bad section and my confidence is shot down. I love that we support each other on here, but maybe it would help to get together in person to talk about it. My family and friends are, of course, supporting me, but it's different because they don't understand the nuances of the beastly challenge we are facing. Anyway, if anyone wants to do this, please message me privately. We have a reservation for 6 people at Max Brenner in Union Square for Fri. 5/10 ~ 7:15p.m. And let's all be strong, do our best to smile and keep learning. At least we're learning from the best with 7Sage :)

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

Hi everyone,

I'm a full-time college student in the sophomore year hoping to start law school in the fall of 2022.

My last PrepTest scores have been 140, 149, and 152. My goal score is 170. I’m planning to take the LSAT as soon as I hit a 170+ on the practice tests.

I'm wondering if anyone has been in my situation and I'm looking for advice on whether or not using 7Sage for two years would be enough to achieve my goal.