@admin-3 is there anyway that the downloaded pdf (drills) could be iPad pencil enabled? Printing the drills is getting too much and I’m also traveling. Just wondering. Thanks!

Anybody have thoughts or opinions on taking a 1L Summer Prep Course before matriculation? Just curious if it is worth the time and money, or if it's best to enjoy the last law-free Summer. Thanks!

Just wondering how people on here feel about retaking the LSAT multiple times. I know LSAC recently dropped the 3 limit rule. But does taking it more than 3 times have a drastic negative effect?

Rather than regale you with a narrative about personal triumph through adversity i thought it would be more worthy of your time to explain how i increased my lsat score by 13 points.

Started with a 157 3 years ago, re wrote the lsat last November and got a 161. Discovered 7 sage shortly after and subsequently got a 166 and a 170 on the following lsats.

How did i get here?

I viewed jy's videos religiously. Not just for lg but for LR and occasionally RC. I tried to understand Jy's thought process , how he approached questions and how eliminated wrong answer choices. I did all the pts past pt50 as well. If you are not an ultimate member, think about upgrading. It is a worthy investment

I kept a log of all the lr questions I got wrong and audited my thought process after every PT. (Shout out to @hawaiihi for this idea) The value of a thorough BR is priceless. Do not just concentrate on why answer choices are right, look at the wrong answer choices and figure out why they are wrong. I also reviewed every question , even those i got right. Just in case i hit on a false positive where i got the right answer through improper methods. Process not results matter

I started to BR with others.

The best way to iron out your reasoning is to say it out loud to others, and no one is more discerning of reasoning than other sagers. I started a br group and we br'd pts on a weekly basis. This really helped fill in the gaps in my thinking process, br'ing with others shone a light on my heuristical blind-spots and gave me the edge i needed to transition from the 160's to the 170's. If you are aiming for a 97th percentile score I highly suggest you br with others.

I started a group chat and vowed to answer every question that came my way. I figured if I could not teach a concept , I did not know it well enough. This let me randomly review concepts as at any given moment questions would appear, the lsat was always on my mind. More importantly the group chat kept me sane as i knew there were other people out there going through the same struggles. I love my group chat, they are lovely people and seeing their success after the March results came in made me happier than any individual achievement ever could.

I hate to plug a competing product but the lsat trainer is magical, if you do not have it buy it right now.

The group chat is still going as there are still folks on there who are writing in june and july you can join us here.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/HEr9S37YrIFBZNN6w4pFpZ

I also still join the june BR sessions (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/19448/june-2019-br-study-group-updated)

I've also committed to hosting a br of pt 41 on sunday (the post is on the first page of the webforum)

I'm going to stick around for awhile to pay it forward. This site has been life changing

So I got my score today from the March 30th administration. Long story short I'm not satisfied with my results and I'm preparing to take the July 15th test. I'm to the point in my prep where its practice, practice, practice with proper blind review. My blind review scores are on point with my target score but my actual is still behind. Before I make a mistake and continue practicing the way I have been, with timed sections/blind review, preptest/blind review, is there any advice or suggestions I should consider? Is there something more I could be doing? I just want to make sure I'm making the most of my study time before the next administration. Thanks!

I just got my March score and received a 169. I'm definitely happy with my score - I've studied for this dang thing for over a year but I'm considering maybe... possibly... retaking.

This is my situation. I have a 4.0 GPA - graduated about a year and a half ago. I'm interested in T14 schools - particularly lower T14 schools with a scholarship. I also had some other tier one schools in mind - like Boston University and UT Austin.

The thing with a 169 is that just a point or two more would put me at or above median at a lot of the T14. The night before the exam, I had a massive panic attack and did not sleep. Literally went into the exam on 0 hours of sleep, convinced I was gonna bomb it. I had been receiving PT scores in the lower170s in the months leading up to the test, so I think maybe I underperformed or lack of sleep contributed to the drop. Or the drop was just a natural test day drop, who knows.

But, I also just don't want to keep studying for this test. I know that sounds lazy and lame, but I've studied for 16 months, 3-4 hours a day, 5 days a week, with virtually no breaks. I'm emotionally drained. But I could muster up the energy if retaking was worthwhile - I don't know definitively that I'll do better and I don't want to go through the process if I'm gonna end up with the same or a lower score. But I also don't want to pass up the chance to retake and live with myself knowing that I might've gotten a scholarship or gotten accepted to a better school had I just put in a couple more months of preparation.

Thoughts?

I’m not so sure if I’m doing the right thing. I study full time.

Day 1: Full timed PT + RC and LG drills

Day 2: BR every question + Videos for RC and LG after each passage and game.

Day 3: Review missed questions from both PT and BR.

LR: After 3rd try, I compare the answers with PT and BR after doing one question.

If I made changes, I write down why I made the change, initial reasoning for choosing and eliminating that AC.

Then I watch JY’s video and write down the difference between his approach and mine.

With different color pen I write out where it went wrong, and what I should work on.

Review CC and books, search discussion board for ways to solve that problem. + do 20Q on that question type,

which is NA most of the cases.

I repeat it twice a week, and BR every question part is a bit time consuming. What can I change/do more in the BR process to make it more effective? How should I review 3rd try, if I got it three times wrong?

I've noticed sooo many questions about high blood pressure, being overweight, etc. Find new topics test writers! Lol

Hey Everyone!

Two questions:

1.) Is there a way to erase all of my notes without going in to each one and deleting them? I am wanting to start from scratch.

2.) Have you ever just restarted the core curriculum from scratch? I am 24% into it, the furthest I have gotten to date. I've also restarted it 2 times. I am terrified of going to the practice exams without FULLY completely understanding the core curriculum. I've also been back and forth on whether to take the LSAT, but I keep coming back to it because I think I ultimately want to do it but just get scared.

All advice is welcome and appreciated.

Thanks!

Lindsey

I just noticed that Berkeley claims to have had 6,039 Fall 2018 applicants, and they claim to have accepted 314 of them. This seems like it would result in a roughly 5% acceptance rate, rather than the 20% listed on the predictor page. Can anyone explain this apparent disparity? Does this mean they actually accepted around 1,200 applicants and 900 didn't accept their offers of admission?

I was averaging 3 points higher than what I actually scored, but I felt really uncomfortable with the March 2019 LG and I think that's what messed me up. Does anyone have any advice for retaking a third time/how to approach studying this time around? I'm signed up for the June test because I know I'm right where I want to be, I just didn't execute on test day.

Hey guys so I just took a Diagnostic (PT30) at a proctoring site and it was under real timed conditions and scored a 145 after taking 2 years off from the lsat. So brief history I took a FALL (Sep- Dec) blueprint course in NYC but at that time it was not suited for me. it was just too comical and very fast paced for me! But I decided to sit in on the Feb Lsat and I jokingly took it because I was naive and just wanted to get it over and done with and scored a 154 but again I didn't really study outside of the course. I would never blame Blueprint though for my low score- that was 10000% on my laziness.

Fast Forward to now, I plan on sitting in on either October 28th-December ( one of those dates). I have just began the CC at 7sage and feel great about the community and just overall understanding the fundamentals of it all seem so simple.Im actually looking forward to studying. Currently Im studying anywhere from 20-25 hours a week, taking weekly/ to bi-weekly PT's at the free proctoring sites and then doing the Blind Review, and just reviewing on my phone concepts from the 7sage app or Quizlet.

My top choices are {Boston U, Fordham, BC, Cornell- reaching, Georgetown} so I am aiming for 167-170s. I have a 3.6 GPA at UG, and 3.9 in Grad School (MA Program).

I know 20+ point jumps are like unheard of and mostly everyone says its impossible but given I have over 6 months of studying and when I say I'm treating it like my job- I AM! Strength is LG and RC with the blind review I average at -3/4 and weakness is LR & !

Is this realistic timing for my goal score? Any recommendation/ study tips.

I am using 7sage then reviewing the Trainer but since I started with 7sage, I want to learn the basics and use the trainer for any further clearing in LR. I have the Bibles as well although, LR really confused me which is what prompted me to 7sage. I am saving later PT's for after the CC course and doing drills with PT 20-40s. Also been using khan Academy articles and videos for RC. Do you think its possible timing wise? Anything else I should be doing.

I have the whole summer to study for this and I am determined. Aiming to write the Sept test. I'm only working a part time job with minimal hours throughout the summer. I need to get a score of at least 167. Which course should I pick? If I don't feel ready by Sept or if my score isn't high enough, I'll definitely take a later test. Please advice!

Do we have to keep the watch on our wrists or are we allowed to put it on a desk in front of us during the test??

Is there any way I can upgrade to Ultimate+, pay the difference and get the extra time? This has been so amazing and I wasted my time before using Powerscore. I had no idea the course would be THIS effective for me compared to others in just a matter of a week (I've been studying for about a month and my score has already drastically improved on the games)

Hello 7Sagers! I've finally finished the core curriculum. I'm torn as to what I should do next. Should I A.) start taking full length PTs and BR them, B.) Work through some drilling materials to refresh materials like LR I haven't touched in a few months, then start taking timed PTs and BR, C.) a combo of both establishing a baseline with a post core curriculum PT score and working with drilling materials in weak areas, or D.) full proof for the next month on games before beginning full length PTs? Thoughts and advice on this would be much appreciated.

Hi there-

I'm looking for as much feedback as possible, and after having a great experience with LSAT prep on 7sage a couple years ago, I figured I would post about my predicament here.

I was accepted to Georgetown Law this cycle and it's the only school I applied to this cycle. I have a 168/3.2. Between personal savings, college fund savings, and a small $30k total scholarship, my total debt at graduation would be $215k (including interest in all these numbers).

Goals are Big Law in NYC, or any east coast city at least initially. Long term, maybe in-house somewhere.

My option is either go to Georgetown this fall, or re-apply next cycle to other schools. Last cycle I had acceptances to Fordham, BC, BU and WUSTL. All four would've costed around $120-135k. Like a lot of us, I think I've gotten fixated on prestige. My question is, is Georgetown worth an additional $90k compared to these schools?

Added a poll to make it easy

Edit: Those numbers are total COA, so including living as well in that. Just clarifying in case. Also, I should note I have a job in NYC currently at a mid-size professional services/consulting firm and I'm two years out of undergrad. So, I'm not on my couch collecting dust if I wait, but also don't love what I do by any means.

So I’ve done four PTs since April 1st, 52, 53,54,56.

The scores are way too consistent and I’m not seeing much improvement.

Even compared to the cold diagnostic, aside from LG, it seems stagnant. Ok there were improvements but not what I expected after almost a year...

These are my PT scores so far. I’ve stopped PT for a week to do question type drills and took PT56, but BR score actually went down! I regret not doing BR for the cold diagnostic and having no comparable basis for my initial understanding.

Cold May 2018

PTJ [RC -13/LR -7/LR -14/LG -21] 142

After CC Sept. 2018

41 [RC -15/LR -15/LR -17/LG -13] 140

Did’t BR because I thought there was no point with only finishing half of each section in time…

PT from April 1st 2019

52 [RC -7/LR -8/LR -9/ LG -0] 160

BR [RC -4/LR -6/LR -5/LG -0] 166

53 [RC -12/LR -8/LR -6/LG -0] 159

BR [RC -7/LR -3/LR -0/LG -0] 171

54 [RC -11/LR -5/LR -8/LG -0] 159

BR [RC -3/LR -3/LR -4/LG -0] 170

56 [RC -9/LR -8/LR -5/LG -0] 162

BR [RC -5/LR -3/LR -5/LG -0] 168

I never finish LR and RC on time. So I usually skip 2~3 questions per section.

From PT53 I decided to skip Q12~Q19 for Q20+ so I can finish the ones I actually get right.

For RC, I never finish P4. I spend way too much time on P1&2.(Half of my time spent on the two…) I get to read P4, and try one or two relatively short questions. But that’s about it. I’m not so sure what I can do to improve on RC than practice timed.

What frustrates me the most is that I actually did worse after CC. I see that I made some improvements since the after CC PT, but nowhere near my expectations.(Thought I’d hit LR-3~4 by now… and get much better with RC… or at least be able to do all the questions!) My speed improved, but seems like at the cost of accuracy.

Should I go back to CC to focus on fundamentals and Q type drills or focus on timed PT? With the current BR score, I think there are definitely some basic things I don’t fully understand.

I study full time, so have been doing two PTs per week with untimed RC, Q type, and LG.

However, I’ve been thinking maybe doing PT40’s timed after every newer PTs (50’s+) could be beneficial in that I’d be able to practice timing. Or should I focus on fundamentals?

Also, is there alternatives to coffee that won’t make me want to go to restroom every hour? I can’t stay awake without coffee, but I don’t want to use restroom during the test. Using the restroom just before the test won’t do...

For some reason, I have a harder time testing in complete silence. When I have some kind of white noise in the background, I am able to focus much better. Does anyone have suggestions on how to be more adaptable to different noise conditions?

Does anyone know if there is an option to freeze your account? My account expires next month and I will extend in the event that I don't get into any schools for this fall but I won't know for sure until late June/ early July.

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7Sage Consultant Dan Castro has an amazing article in this month's Harper's. It's about a man who negotiated a historic truce between El Salvador's biggest gangs—and how local politics, pressure from the US, and the man's own ambiguous motives helped undo it.

Check it out!

https://harpers.org/archive/2019/05/gang-truce-san-salvador-raul-mijango/

I will be graduating in May(undergrad) and I am not sure whether taking a part-time job or a full-time job is better after graduation. Most paralegal positions are full-time. I will likely to get a more rounded experience in law if I take the position, but does it matter if I choose a part time job that is not relevant to law? I want more time to study the LSAT. I am not sure if a random, unrelated job will hurt my application in the future. Please help! Thank you!

I want to go to a t14 and afterwards work in international law / digital law (not big law). My personal work-life balance is 50-55 hours of full-time studying or full-time work. Is putting in 50-55 hours a reasonable expectation to succeed at a t14 and in said legal fields? I know it depends on the person; in my case, I intentionally limit the amount of time working / studying so there is pressure to work more efficiently (more time doesn't mean better results). Any opinions or experiences? Thanks in advance.

If you are leaning towards the possibility of taking the LSAT more than once, what is the proper balance of properly preparing with the new PT's and saving a few of the newer ones? Should you use as many recent ones as you can, and then if you do need to take again, practice with older PT's that are new to you?