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Hi everyone.

I'm having problems understanding this sentence, extracted from PT23 Section3 #10:

"If a person chooses to walk rather than drive, there's one less vehicle emitting pollution into the air than there would be otherwise."

What does the otherwise do? Is it simply just saying that if a person chooses to drive rather than walk, there's not one less vehicle emitting pollution into the air?

Thank you!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-10/

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I switched over to 7Sage after completing Testmasters about a week ago and so far the only big difference I've seen has been to read the question stem first which I will do, but I was wondering if anyone has any advice about going through the Core Curriculum again. I'm scoring a 158 and a 170 BR which is my target score. I have difficulty with timing and getting through all of Reading Comp (two to three passages total) so I wanted to try the recording technique I've read about a few times in the discussion. I wanted to know if I should skip around the CC to the reading comp parts or if I should just go through everything in order. I started studying in October (scored a 141) and my test is in July. Everything seems redundant and I don't know if I'm wasting time I could be spending on actual testing conditions (controlling my anxiety and nerves under timed conditions).

After over a year of prep, I finally broke into the 170s on my PTs! My diagnostic was a 147 and for a very long time I was convinced a 170 was well beyond my reach. While PT scores don't necessarily predict how well you'll do on the real thing, breaking a plateau I've been sitting at for months is huge for me. These plateaus have a way of tricking you into believing you have reached your LSAT potential. But this test really does reward patience and methodical blind review. My journey is far from over but thanks to 7Sage and its wonderful community I already accomplished something I once assumed was impossible.

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Would it be possible for the recommended time for each game in LG to be added to the main page instead of having to click on the individual game's explanation? I'm documenting my timing and answers on a spreadsheet, and it would make it a lot easier if you would include the timing next the average score. TY

I took the March test, but my goal was to take two test this year, i'm having a baby late June, and the June 3rd test seems really close, and the July test, well i'll have a newborn to deal with so I'm thinking go for the September test. (even though i wanted to avoid the digital) My game plan, is to start from scratch, zero out my CC and start from scratch really get back to the basics and get the core down 100% and then start the PTs again, does that seems like a waste of time? I need some advise here guys.

Hey, friends. This is happening. For real. A few of us are getting together (for coffee, booze, snacks or chocolate) to commiserate and/or talk about study strategies, pitfalls, etc. I bet I'm not the only one frustrated with this process. I've definitely shown improvement, but then as soon as I think it's smooth sailing in one section or another, I have a bad section and my confidence is shot down. I love that we support each other on here, but maybe it would help to get together in person to talk about it. My family and friends are, of course, supporting me, but it's different because they don't understand the nuances of the beastly challenge we are facing. Anyway, if anyone wants to do this, please message me privately. We have a reservation for 6 people at Max Brenner in Union Square for Fri. 5/10 ~ 7:15p.m. And let's all be strong, do our best to smile and keep learning. At least we're learning from the best with 7Sage :)

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

Hi everyone,

I'm a full-time college student in the sophomore year hoping to start law school in the fall of 2022.

My last PrepTest scores have been 140, 149, and 152. My goal score is 170. I’m planning to take the LSAT as soon as I hit a 170+ on the practice tests.

I'm wondering if anyone has been in my situation and I'm looking for advice on whether or not using 7Sage for two years would be enough to achieve my goal.

I study everyday for a couple of hours for the LSAT. My exam is in September. Is it bad that im studying everyday for hours? Tips to prevent burnout?

Hey. For some reason, I can't play any of the explanation videos. Please #help

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Has anyone ever sat for the LSAT in less than ideal testing conditions? Let me hear your story!

Not to one up you, but......

This was my second time taking the exam. The first time was at a college with comfortable desks and a quiet atmosphere. This time it was at a hotel that was a complete mess. The exam room was near the lobby so there was a lot of traffic from hotel guests. They were very loud in the hallway. We were also close to a kitchen and you could hear the staff speaking occasionally. There were also some loud crashes with various pans falling in the kitchen area. The desks had tablecloths on them so that wasn’t the easier to use with filling in the scantron form. At the break the test taker I was sitting with agreed to remove the table cloth. But that didn’t help since the desk was wood and kept sticking to our shirts. I even got a splinter during the writing section. Fml

Im planning on taking the june lsat and the September Test for good measure. The transition to digital has made me nervous on top of the fact that my score will determine the next few years of my life (no biggie right 🥴) so im thinking about also taking the November lsat. Will that look bad? I already have a low gpa will i look desperate with 3 lsat scores under my belt? Or what if i get only do well on 1 test? How does it make me look as an applicant?

I am hoping someone might be able to provide some information on this prep-course. I have not been able to locate much online and am not even sure if it is still offered. Does anyone know how to reach Larry? Does anyone know the length of this course if it is still offered? I would appreciate any help I can get on this.

I was looking for some resources about this test center but I could barley find any before taking my exam. I just took the March 30, 2019, test and I have to say that I like the test center and would take another test there again (should I sadly have to retake). I think there were almost a hundred test takers, but you have enough space from each other since the room is pretty large. I was probably at least meter away from the next test taker. We also had plenty of desk space. However, the generous space might not be available if there significnatly more test takers.

It was pretty quiet the whole time. The room was really cold for more than half the exam, but later warmed up. I would suggest wearing layers of clothing that you can later shed. The bathrooms are right outside the test room but there was a long queue, since there are only three stalls (for women).

If you don't know your way around DC and have not been to the Ronald Reagan Building, I would suggest you visit the place before the exam since there is a considerable walk to the testing room if you did not enter the building through 14th St. There are security checks at each entrance and a metal detector.

Side note: The proctors were kind. For some bizzare reason on guy came up to the proctor and said he had no pencil... They gave him three pencils. One girl said she was freezing during the break, however, you are not supposed to access your coat since it was outside the test testing room so someone brought her coat in.

I am halfway through the CC, so basically since you can cancel your scores after seeing them, should I already register for the July test even though i have no idea how i will average on PTs?

hey all

so I've noticed that in my PT phase, I can find myself getting rusty in certain areas after not working on them for a few weeks or not doing timed practice for some time.

For example, Monday - I take a timed PT. Then from Tuesday to Sunday, I spend that time reviewing it (BR, watching and reading explanations for Q's I got wrong, etc.) From Tuesday to Sunday, however, I spend very little time doing any timed work or drilling - I'm just BRing and reviewing my PT and seeing what I got wrong and why.

Then on the following Monday, when I do a new timed PT, I feel myself pretty rusty/slowish on LR and RC especially, because I haven't done any under pressure timed work in 7 days.

I now realize that before any fresh new PT I take, I would like to spend the day before at least doing a few timed repeat sections in LR, RC, and LG just to get my juices flowing and to remind myself what working under timed conditions is like. Otherwise, if I jump straight into a fresh PT and it's been like 8 days since I've last done any timed work, I can find myself kinda rusty and slow.

Has anyone else experienced this??

In a sense, it's like doing a "timed practice" warmup the day before doing a fresh real PT, just to get those brain juices flowing and breaking any rustiness that might have accumulated over a past week.

I also sometimes feel rustiness when I do a deep dive intensive into something like LG fool proofing for two weeks, where all I do is foolproof LG for two weeks. Then after those 2 weeks when I suddenly do a timed fresh LR section without any warmups, I can find myself slow, rusty, and prone to silly mistakes.

Anyone experience something similar. Anyone have any advice on avoid rustiness and maintaining top LSAT shape before one takes a fresh test?

Thanks.

Hello, I have noticed that many questions which I miss when taking practice tests are due a failure to read/mentally process words (and sometimes entire sentences) in the question/answer text. I know that sounds absurd but imagine reading a sentence only to have your mind glaze over and even sometimes change certain words in the sentence. Just to be clear, this is not a vocabulary problem, it is more of a 'reading' problem. As you can imagine this issue plagues me in all aspects of the test.

This issue becomes more prominent with more time pressure: the faster I try to read the worse my comprehension is.

I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has had this problem and what techniques they used to overcome it? Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions on the matter!

So I canceled my test sitting for tomorrow's exam and need to register for the June Exam: however, my nearest testing location is listed as an "Area Test Center", which essentially means that they haven't selected the test center location yet (According to LSAC). They said they will inform you of where it will be when they decide upon a location, however I find it helpful to know where you the exam will be before I sign up for it.

On top of that, my first choice testing center filled up already, even though it was available a few days ago(still kicking myself over not registering then).

I have been reading proctor and test center horror stories, and I am worried that it will end up being a crap-shoot if I go with this location, since the only test center in that area which has had exams in the past has had consistently negative reviews(Granted I couldn't find any recent reviews, but still worrisome nonetheless). I would assume that they would hold it there or possibly at a hotel (which I honestly wouldn't mind as much).

On the other hand, there are spaces available at test centers that have good reviews, but they are 3-4+ hour drives.

The longer I wait the slimmer the pickings will be.

What should I do?

Has anyone ever had any experience registering to take an exam at a "Area Test Center" without knowing exactly where it was going to be when signing up/ what the end result was?

Thank You for your input!

I'm torn between taking the March LSAT or postponing it..

I already sat for a LSAT last year and received 163.

My recent pt scores have ranged between 164~170 and the average is around 167..

My BR scores are around 173~177..

My goal score is 171~174.

Should I take a chance and take the March LSAT or should I postpone and take the June LSAT?

If I do take the March test and fail to get the score I'm hoping for I plan to take the June one for the third time. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Hey Guys, I live in NY, I have been on and off on 7th for more than 2 years now. I almost paid for the testmaster course this week, when it hit me, it would probably be better to spend that money on a 7sage tutor. Are there any available in the NY area? can anyone send me the list of tutors?

I had planned to make this post a month or so ago, but projects at work have kept me pretty busy.

As I end my LSAT/Admissions journey, I'd like to express my thanks to the people who make up 7Sage. I started on this forum after having meager results with what one YouTuber referred to as the "Holy Grail of LSAT prep." Immediately, I was welcomed into an encouraging community that was as informative as it was supportive. Of course, there's some people who have gone above and beyond in offering their support: @BinghamtonDave , @keets993 , @"Cant Get Right" , @LSATcantwin, and @Alex . I genuinely hope that I will be able to follow along as you each find your way through law school and beyond.

I'm thrilled to say that I recently accepted an offer to the University of British Columbia (UBC). Throughout my LSAT prep, getting into UBC was one of the main motivators for pushing my score, so it's reassuring to have that the time and effort pay off. It's a fantastic school, and I'm excited to be moving to Vancouver in September. (If any fellow 7Sagers out there are also beginning at UBC this September, DM me; I'd love to connect.)

Of course, there are similar posts to this one, and in each one the OP has offered some advice regarding what strategies were especially effective for him/her. Because I don't think I can add much to what people have recently offered, I'll just give one suggestion, steeped in hindsight bias. If there is one thing I wish I had implemented sooner in my prep, it is the skipping mindset advocated by @NotMyName in his 7Sage AMA (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18950/7sage-podcast-episode-11-7sager-notmyname-148-to-174-lsat). Going into each PT shooting for 4-5 points below my average was key to helping me overcome my "perfectionist fixation" on certain questions. It's really true that there are LSAT questions on which a quick skip should be considered a victory. After spending a few weeks developing this habit, I found that skipping some questions was actually able to contribute to feelings of confidence and control rather than anxiety and failure. Like most deities, the LSAT gods reward sacrifice. ;) For anybody out there who's still in the midst of preparation, I cannot emphasize enough how valuable are the shifting wavelengths on that podcast.

Finally, I'd like to give a massive shout-out to the tutoring services of @BinghamtonDave . Anyone who's spent a significant amount of time immersed in the 7Sage CC will tell you that one begins to hear J.Y.'s voice while taking PTs. ("'A' What!?!?! What does that even mean?!'") While this remains true for myself and LR, Dave's voice began declaring squatters right in my brain when tackling LG. Dave's knowledge of the test is outstanding, and he's a fine human being. Without Dave, I strongly doubt I would have made the cut for UBC. I cannot recommend him strongly enough.

I'll continue to hang around the forum and offer advice assistance where I can. If you have any specific questions, you're welcome to DM me. :)

Hi,

I live in NYC and was wondering if anyone was aware of mock-LSATs being held before the June 3rd, 2019 LSAT. I have heard of these before, where you go to a venue and basically take a PT under as realistic as possible conditions. Any one know of any in the next couple months?

Thanks.

New lesson under "Resources for Taking Simulated LSATs"

Link here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/how-should-i-study-for-the-digital-lsat/

Full text below. If you have questions ask away! I'll try to answer if I can.

The LSAT going digital is the biggest change to the test in decades. It’s natural to feel some amount of anxiety as we leave the comfort of our printers and pencils behind to meet our digital LSAT gods.

There is no need to make drastic changes to how you’ve been studying in order to be prepared for the new digital LSAT format. You’re doing fine. This is because the content and the structure of the LSAT will remain exactly the same. Far more than format, it’s the content of the LSAT that ought to determine how you study for this test. Since that's not changing, you shouldn't change how you study. Blind Review is still king for Logical Reasoning. You still need to Fool Proof your Logic Games. And you still need to do Low Resolution summaries for Reading Comprehension.

The only thing different is that you should practice taking digital PrepTests on your tablet with a stylus to simulate actual test day conditions. If you don’t have a tablet, do it on a computer. LSAC is providing PrepTest 73 (September 2014) for free here: https://familiar.lsac.org/. We have every reason to believe that what we’re seeing on that site will be largely the same as what testers will see on July 15, the first administration where roughly half of the students will be taking the digital version of the LSAT. Starting with the September 21 administration, the LSAT will be fully digital.

7Sage will be releasing our version of the digital tester in open beta test mode by May 1 so you’ll have an opportunity to take PrepTests in digital format. The point is simply to get used to the act of doing the test digitally because there are differences from the paper version. For example, one advantage for everyone is that bubbling and flipping back to flagged questions are instantaneous. This results in time savings of 2-3 minutes or 5%-8% of total section time (35 minutes). There will also be an on screen timer so you can see how much time you have remaining without having to consult a watch.

You’ll also have to get used to doing Logic Games on separate sheets of scratch paper with a pen. Yes, you read that right. A pen. The LSAC has lost its mind. Just kidding. But they are seriously claiming that a pen is their writing instrument of choice provided to you along with an unspecified number of sheets of scratch paper.

The tablet itself (Microsoft Surface Go tablet 8.3” x 5.5” screen) will come with a small built in stand so you can tilt the screen slightly. If you’re used to taking your pencil to the paper to point to each word as you read - what I call "tactile reading" - the stylus can be used in an analogous manner. As far as we can tell, you cannot freely write or draw with the stylus. It can only be used to highlight or underline text, flag questions, and select answer choices.

The writing sample will be administered separately beginning with the June 3 administration. Test takers will be doing the writing section on their own computers and it will be typed. The obvious advantage here is that you can do this on your time where you want, as long as you have an internet connection.

Please keep in mind that this information is simply what we know for the time being based on what the LSAC has revealed. Since the Digital LSAT is new for the LSAC as well, we anticipate that they will be tweaking their digital tester and the process throughout future administrations. Accordingly, we will be updating this page.

Is there a way to rank the most difficult PT in a given year? Thank you in Advance.