Is access to the harder problem sets necessary to break into the 160s? Strongest section right now is LR (averaging -5). Thank you!

Hi, I am a mom of three kids and have been graduated from US school with a MS in Chemistry many years ago. I am studying LSAT and hoping to achieve a good score to get in my dream Law School in 2020, registered both Sept and Oct tests. I have learnt LSAT fundamentals in the last one and half month and do feel have a good understanding now, however need to significantly improve my performance with speed, or I do not get to one quarter of the section or even half of the questions in timed PT. I do feel a lot to do is to make up the training on dense material reading and be able to go through questions and answer choices quickly which I am lacking, due to being in science major and English not being my first language! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, or anyone who is interested in counseling me on and off from time to time please do contact me. Thank you very much!

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Hi guys, I took July 2019 yesterday and didn't feel as though it went too well. I think ill be writing October and I wanted to get advice on whether I should restudy certain topics, try to relearn everything but more concretely then drill and do PTs, or just do PrepTests and review them thoroughly. I have approx. 3 months. Let me know your thoughts or feel free to pm me with any experiences similar to mine.

Thank you guys!!!

Can someone tell me what watches are permitted for the paper exam? Thank you. Best of luck studying.

Hi all,

I'm debating whether or not I should sign up for the September test. I took June (161), and I just took July. My target schools are UNC or UGA, so I believe this is close to the median lsats for either (according to LSN). I'm not sure how I did on July. I had the digital, and I feel like I didn't do too well on RC, but I also felt the same after June. I had pt scores of 163, so I know I can get a few more points, but I wanted to apply right as applications open.

I also don't know if I should sign up for September in case I did poorly on July, and if I don't need to take it again, I can just withdraw (and basically lose $200) or suck it up and take it again, delaying my applications.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Hi I'm registering for the LSAT right now on LSAC and I was wondering how important it was to purchase those 'packages' they offer. Like this one: "Six-report package — includes one LSAT, one LSAT Writing, CAS, and six Law School Reports remove

Please note that purchasing this package does not automatically register you for the LSAT.

You will still need to register for the LSAT separately after submitting your payment."

It's a bit pricy and want to waste money as it is literally 650 dollars for the six package report.

Hey y'all... I just took the July exam (got a paper version of the test) and realized... I have no idea what's going on with the writing sample. Previously most of the advice given was not to worry about the writing sample. Now that we are taking it on our own time, separately from the test, will the writing portion be given more weight?

Thanks!

Has anyone taken the test at the Loyola University, UIC or the John Marshall Law School in Chicago? Can anyone provide any information regarding these testing centers? Even more appreciate if anyone can provide the exact testing locations for these centers so that I could have the option to see them myself! Thanks!

Does anyone know which 7Sage program I need to purchase for LR and RC video explanations? I need every PT from 1-81 if that’s an option

I’m sure many of you will be hearing in the next few hours that LSAC decided to cancel the Florida Southern exam due to technical difficulties. I have been studying for the last 4 months and now have to continue studying until September to take the exam which dramatically will effect the next couple months of mine and I’d assume many other peoples lives in the upcoming months.

Probably not the smartest idea to put 85 year old proctors in charge of the tablets the first time they’re ever distributed.

Anyways, has anyone heard of this happening before? Any idea what LSAC will do? Their phones are off the hook right now so I’m unable to get in contact with them. Everyone in the testing center was absolutely furious.

Was worried that the hotel would give me extra noise. Beautiful set up room. Competent 3rd Party testing company that administered it. I didn’t think that anything could out do Spring Hill’s Center, I stand corrected!

Hi all!

Having taken the LSAT at both Drexel (July 2019) and Temple (2015 December and 2017 February) I thought I would pass along a review for those who are interested. Bottom line: Temple is great, Drexel is terrible.

Temple:

Students are about 15-20 to a room and each has their own table with a chair. You have lots of room for spreading your materials out and the lighting in the room is nice. The chairs are comfortable and there is plenty of leg room. The proctors know what they are doing and it's easy to get in/out, there is a water fountain, and the temperature is appropriate. The parking wasn't an issue either time I went, but those were weekend tests so I would recommend a parking garage for any weekday testing in the future.

Drexel:

One huge auditorium for everyone (60 people?). The auditorium has rows of chairs arranged in three columns (something like 5-10-5 on chair distribution). The geniuses in charge decided to put all of us in the middle column, so that there were four in a row. There is no space to walk out of the middle of the row of chairs without forcing people to fold down their little tables, stand up, and let the person pass. This means that if someone in a middle row needs to use the bathroom during the test, the people on the end will have to put their test away and stand up twice to let them through. When they handed out the test, they made everyone fold down their tables so the person could squeeze through each row of chairs. They then realized they forgot to collect admissions tickets, so they had to do it all over again. Repeat for pre-break and post-break. All in all, it was pretty annoying to have to put your stuff away constantly, especially when they could have put half the test takers on the side columns and thereby created free rows to walk through as proctors. Additionally, the rows are so closely packed together that anyone over 6 feet tall will have serious difficulty being comfortable during the test. I am 5'11" and my back hurt by the end of the test from being in such cramped conditions.

The tables that fold out from your chair are too small for the paper version of the test. The paper extended significantly over the edge, and I broke a pencil tip by accidentally writing off the table. It also necessitated an annoying back-and-forth motion between the answer sheets and the test booklet. I can't even imagine how the tablets are going to fit on these tables with the scratch paper. I think it will prove to be a serious challenge to anyone taking the test there in the future.

The water fountain was also broken at the test center, so there was nothing for people to drink who either didn't bring water or who brought something else (I brought some iced coffee but then had to live with dry mouth for the rest of the exam).

The proctors stamped around as they watched you take the test, and stood VERY close to you when they stopped (I had one basically brushing legs with me at one point).

The room was also insanely cold. I had jeans and a jacket on, and don't get cold easily, and thought it was on the frigid side. I saw one student who only had a t-shirt hugging herself for warmth during the break.

There were also a few semi-inflated helium balloons floating at the ceiling, which could potentially fall on a test taker during the exam. That's not a big deal but it also shows a lack of attention to detail by the test center.

All in all, I would NOT recommend Drexel as a test taking site.

So, My request is that someone should do a new tutorial on how to approach the RC in digital form. Looking at Khan academy exams and 7sage beta, we know that we are using highlighting. But how do we utilize the memory method onto digital exams as we can't write little notes anymore. From Last yr or so, I am practicing for paper exam and suddenly there is digital form which completely throws me off when it came to RC. I hope there is a new tutorial on RC on how to best highlight the reading material.

I scored 141 and my BR was 156. My target is 160-163.

My scores were the following:

LR: - 12

LG: -18 😒

LR: -15

RC: -13

After BR

LR: -9

lG: -10

LR: -12

RC: -7

I’m taking the September test. Do I even have a shot? It was the first time i ever did LSAT on a tablet and i was very nervous dor some reason.....

For full disclosure, i was in and still am in the process of FPing games and it’s been a while since I reviewed LR and basically only did RC for a week. Can i get to my target score in 2 months? And if can you guys give me some advice.

The only silver lining that I see here is my BR score is close to my target score.

Help me folks😎

Hi guys!

I am in need of some Hail Mary encouragement but also want to be realistic... I'm taking tomorrow's test haha

I am a full time working professional and have 2 kids. Since sitting the Nov 2018 test as a "base line" (161), I THOUGHT I was seeing drastic improvement in my scores... I sat the March 2019 test and scored 161 again, but our testing center had some unusual circumstances that were distracting (our proctor informed LSAC of the anomalies but we weren't given much choice other than cancel + free test or see your score and no free test... I chose to see my score just in case).

Since March 2019, I've been fairly consistent in my studies and had been doing 1 PT per week... from May to June I was consistently scoring 166-170 and I was using mostly PT Vol 5 and 6 (used other older tests for drills and digital practice).

Well, I purchased PT 87 and bombed it at 159...!! I had never received that score before. Some things I noticed... whereas when I was scoring in the high 160s, I was averaging -4 on each RC and LR sections, the recent PTs are about -10 for RC and -8 for just one of the LR. WHAT GIVES?!

I did notice that these newer tests "feel different"... am I just crazy and stressing out too much or are the differences between Vol 6 and recent PTs (82+) substantial enough to impact test day performance?

Hi All,

Quick Blind Review question: I'm shooting for the September LSAT and the way I've set up my schedule right now is practice exam, followed by 3 BR days, followed by a day off, followed by exam, etc. It's my first week following this schedule and I'm noticing that 3 days (~3/4 hours per day) is actually not enough of BR for me. I take a really long time to write out explanations for all the questions I've flagged, and then I watch J.Y.'s video explanations on questions I'm not too sure of. I'm trying to be as meticulous as possible and to really document every part of my thought process in order to better identify traps and other details. My question is: is it worth taking that fourth day (that's supposed to be a no-LSAT day) to BR instead? So the new schedule would be, exam, 4 BR days, exam, 4 BR days, etc etc. I don't want to feel rushed during BR but I also don't want to risk burning out in the long-run if I get rid of my no-LSAT days.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

Hi everyone! I need some advice on what my study should focus on before the September 2019 test. I’ve taken the LSAT twice before, with an 10 point increase on my last try - to a 164. My goal is anywhere between 167-170.

I have actually taken a long hiatus between my last test and now (it’s been 1.5 years). I didn’t think I would retake, but am applying to law school this year and want to aim for T14 so would like to increase my score (even just by a few points), if possible. [strong softs, strong undergrad]

I’ve taken EVERY prep test before PT 81 (albeit more than 1.5 years ago) and am worried that practicing with old PTs that I’ve taken won’t be good enough practice because I’ve seen all of the questions before. I’m leaving all of the new PTs that I haven’t taken yet for mid August - September.

I’m going through the core curriculum now and am halfway done. I need to do this to refresh my memory on strategy, etc. What are your guys’ suggestions in terms of a study schedule after I’m done with the CC? Does it make sense to continue practicing with old PTs? Do you think taking a PT that I’ve seen before is still a good indicator of score?

Also, should I be drilling sections AND doing the CC right now given that the test is only 2.5 months away? Or just finish the CC before moving onto PTs?

I really appreciate your help!

Diag'd a 169 on the Sept. 2006 PT, stuck at a high of 171, plan is to take 2-3 PTs a week leading to the September LSAT. I'm worried about the PT --> actual score drop-off. Anyone else taking September LSAT?

Looking for a study buddy in LA! Got high 160s on previous take, looking for 173+ by September

During my PTs, I consistently average -3 per LR section, with one miss usually coming from the first ten questions. I rarely have much time to go back over troublesome questions. I think that going through the section more quickly, skipping confusing questions and allowing time for review, will help me improve. I want to start intentionally implementing this strategy and was wondering if anyone could recommend specific ways to practice. Is it just a matter of videoing myself taking PTs, or are there other methods for speeding up?

Dear 7sagers,

So here's my thoughts on my first online format take for the LSAT:

I loved it for LR! It just felt like the process went way smoother and more efficiently. I don't know if it was because I've been drilling and reviewing LR like mad over the past couple of weeks, but nonetheless, the online LR has some evident advantage in my view. First of all, it helps so much that the clock is on your screen. Checking for the time on my analog watch was just a plain damn nuisance for me. Also, not having to transfer your answers on the scan-tron gives me an extra 2-3 minutes to do more questions. Lastly, the online format in terms of pencil vs. mouse/tablet pen, doesn't allow much time to be fixated on labeling. This indirectly forces you to focus on the structure of the argument instead of circling/underling each and every major detail, which was a bad habit for me.

Now for on the contrary, the online format is a freakin' NIGHTMARE for Games! Having to look up and down at the screen between my setup on scratch paper and the test itself on the monitor was unforgiving for me! Right now I usually get through about 3 games; but this time I could barley do ONE! Uggh, I wish LSAC would allow for having a clean paper version of the games to write on, and then transfer your answers on the computer/tablet. How do you all handle Games online? I folded my scratch paper horizontally, with one bigger side for the diagram, and the smaller side for questions. However this didn't help me at all, so I would dearly welcome any and all suggestion on this for me.

For Reading Comp., I still slightly prefer paper, but I believe I'll be able to adjust for online reading. I also believe that the online version, like LR, doesn't allow much time for obsession over labeling, so it forces you to comprehend the structure of the passage, which is what RC is pretty much all about.

PS: I'm registered for the July test, which seems like a WTF that I just now did an online test. However I'm most likely going to cancel and take advantage of the later free test unless I score a 155 or better. So I'd really like those online LG suggestions please!

I've noticed that it seems most students start a PT better and then finish worse. This is big reason why there is a such an emphasis on building up your endurance while taking practice tests.

I however have the opposite problem. The first and second sections are almost always worse (and more mentally taxing) than the later sections. I attribute this to my brain just not being fully awake and I've realized that I need a considerable warm-up in order to preform well.

Anyone else have this problem?

Hey all,

I know 1L prep is generally not advised. However I was considering "Start Law School Right" by the Law School Toolbox. Can anyone provide feedback? I've looked for reviews but found none. Not sure if this is a new program or not.

Hi everyone,

Today I just did my first timed test

My weakest section was definitely RC (I feel like i spent too much time on the third passage and rushed through the last one, I dont really know what happened) and best was the LG (completely messed up the first game though). I am about to do my first BR.

I did the "learning" and the drills in our course. I have been studying constantly for nearly 2 months now.

I was feeling really down about this and feel terrible about myselif, in general. I wanted to know how you all saw the most improvement in your scores. I want to bring mine up, ideally, another 15 points. I wanted to know what your suggestions to improve were. Should I keep doing timed tests and BRs or should I get a prepbook or a tutor? I know it is only my first PT, and I intend to do the most recent (as of 50).

Any advice would be really appreciated. :(