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Hello all,

I'm preparing to take the Lsat in June 2019. I believe my planned exam date relevant because my question probably does not apply to those starting to study with less time to spare.

I'm wondering why the 7sage study schedule recommends taking practice LSAT's before even introducing strategies for both LG and RC. In concept, I buy the idea that practice exams should be saved to hone already existent skills. Doesn't taking an exam before even being provided strategies to apply for LG and RC waste a great deal of that exam's utility?

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So, as a person that does not make assumptions in the real world (aka: I ask and double check EVERYTHING)

WEAKENING & STRENGTHENING Qs are killing me.

Once I get to level 3 I start getting 3/5s and ultimately 0/5 as the levels go up.

I'll BLINDREVIEW the drills during the Core Curriculum and watch all the videos for the questions I missed.

I'm trying to get 5/5 without spending more than 10 mins on 5 questions because I get frustrated with how long I'm stuck on the question.

I get that with WEAKENING Qs, you have to find an AC that exposes an "alternative reason for a conclusion" but that is not always easyy.

In STRENGTHENING Qs, I'm just lost because sometimes I have no idea what the assumption is.

Does anyone have tips/tricks to

  • Find the Assumption
  • Prephrase to Integrate found assumption in a way to find the correct AC?
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    Word on the street is that LSAC is making some changes. The move to electronic exams has been in the works but I hadn’t heard the LSAT was thinking of expanding to 10 exams. I’m curious, what do you guys think of the change?

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    My most recent fresh preptest was PT80 during which I scored a 167. My score seems to hover in that region. Any advice on piercing that veil?

    General Information

  • I still struggle with time, oftentimes not having enough of it to do "multiple rounds"
  • I'm equally competent in all sections. I can put up anywhere between -5 to -1 in all sections depending on the preptest.
  • TIME!!
  • I do choose answers and move on when I'm confident so it's odd that time would still be an issue for me. I get caught up on difficult questions and it's still hard to skip them, but I do eventually. When reviewing the questions, the ones that end up wrong are the ones that I was caught up on.
  • I don't read with my pencil. I found it to be distracting as I was more concerned with its pace than understanding the text on the page.
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    Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018

    Preptests 40-50

    Hi all,

    I’m currently working through the Manhattan Prep 10 real LSATs Grouped by Question Type workbook, which uses questions from preptests 41-50. I have found it helpful so far but was wondering, is it a good idea to do questions from preptests 41-50 or are they too old? I will eventually do full length preptests (50 and above). I’m registered for the September test.

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    I recently wrote July LSAT and felt really good about it (LG LR LG RC LR is what I had, and I am thinking that 1st LG was the real one but definitely a harder one from the discussion board and I believe the total is going to be out of 101, am I right?).

    I am still debating whether I should register for September LSAT.

    I really wish to get it over with July but in slim chance that I may have to rewrite it again.

    What would you guys say 7sagers?

    Would you register and wait till the scores come out?

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    Hello Everyone,

    I’m looking for a study buddy who would be willing to go over in depth explanations for the prep tests. We can build off of each other’s knowledge and look for patterns and reasoning structure. Please message me if you are interested or leave a comment below.

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    Is there any way to know how difficult the certain practice tests are? I am just starting to take the tests because I finished the CC. I wanted to know if some are "easier" than others. Thank you!

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    Hi everyone,

    I just registered for the September test, but honestly don't know if I would be ready by then. I have been studying since June, so far I finished the Power Score LSAT bible textbooks and did about 10 prep Tests. I can finish Logic Games within the time limit, but each reading and logical reasoning would take me on average 40-45 min to finish :( I am working full time as an engineer, and have about 15 hour to study each week. Right now I am really stressed, not sure if I should take the November test or September one, I even thought about taking the September test and cancel right away just to "feel" the real exam. Does anyone have any suggestion? Thank you very very much!!!

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    Good morning all,

    I plan on taking the LSAT on November 2018, and I want to start studying in August. I have taken the LSAT before, so the material will not be new for me. I want to purchase the LSAT Premium, but the study schedule suggests 40 hours per week. With a full time job, it will be hard for me to do that.

    My question is, how do I plan around that? Do I study as much as I can and skip over some things? Or do you guys think I should be fine purchasing the LSAT starter course?

    Thank you all in advance,

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    Hello everyone!

    I use the 7sage’s lsat analytics and my scores usually range from 161-164. Sometimes I get like a 171 but that’s because the PTs are really tainted and I’ve seen over half of the LR questions before. (Several times)

    Yesterday I took PT 56 and it was a fresh PT without any questions I’ve previously seen. I scored a 169 which is unusual because I would usually score 161 if the PT is completely fresh like this. And my worst section is RC and I would even get -10 questions wrong sometimes, however I got only -1 on this PT

    So, I was wondering if anyone else had this experience with the PTs or if PT 56 was abnormally easy?

    Thank you in advance!(:

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    Hello all!

    So over the last couple of months my PT scoring has seemed to plateau, with my average over the last 4 being 161.8 and tightly grouped (5th one seemed to be an outlier of 166). My section breakdown for those PT's is roughly -10 LR total, -5 LG, and -8 RC. I just took my first 5 section PT and it was the also my first recent PT (made the jump from PT44 to PT78). I felt really good about PT 78 as a whole while taking it, so I was kind of disappointed with the 162 I got. It may be because I made the jump from 2004 tests to a 2016 test (RC was much more difficult), or because the RC section where I went -10 was the 5th section I did (most likely just excuses). I finish each section with roughly 3-7 minutes remaining.

    I guess I am just wondering if anyone has any study strategies for breaking through the score plateau? Recently I have focused on fool proofing more games, working on LR by question type, and doing untimed RC sections while also combing through The Economist articles. I am feeling good about the progress I am making on LG, but LR and especially RC need work. I am sitting for the September test and am hoping to go 164+ since the median at schools I am interested in were at 161 last cycle.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    A little background: I am consistently scoring in the low 160s on full pts but consistently scoring 175+ (usually 178) during BR. Time kills me, and I know a lot of it is anxiety which results in brain fog because I can correctly answer questions/complete sections in an okay amount of time during BR.

    I just wanted to put a request out for any tips/tools you utilize on any and all sections to save you time. For example, I just saw a suggestion that @keets993 gave on a different post to first do questions during a game that gives you extra premises (which I am definitely going to start implementing to save time since other questions can be answered by subgameboards you create during the extra premises questions).

    Just looking for quick tips as opposed to personalized advice i.e. suggestions to work on fundamentals or fool proofing (this is always important and appreciated, but I think everyone should already be doing these things before/while relying on quick tips)

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    Hey,

    I also missed the deadline of Sept. registration and I am not a July taker. However, I still went ahead to register the exam and I had no difficulty in the registration process. But I did not receive the confirmation email (does receive the email that indicating the order has been received) and when I refresh my lsac lsat page, it indicates there is "no further lsat registration." I tried to restart registration, but Sept. registration -- "pending registration in the cart." Does this mean I, a non-July taker, cannot register the exam?

    Thanks!

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    Hey fellow 7sagers,

    First of all – I just want to start by stating this maybe a long post LOL. So if you are able to read it and help me out, you’re the best. = )

    So last year I started studying for the LSAT but gave up literally because I saw no improvement in my work/scores. But I didn’t lose hope that I couldn’t do the LSAT – so I decided to restart my studying this summer but using 7sage this time.

    I finished most of my ultimate core curriculum (all of the RC curriculum, 90% of my LR curriculum – only thing I did not complete was advanced logic). However, when it came to LG section – I did not focus on it very much until recently (like this week) because last year when I was studying for the LSAT, I thought by far my LG section was the best.

    Nevertheless, I saw a lot of improvements in my studying & knowledge foundation thanks to the brilliance of JY’s teaching. So I decided to do my first mock LSAT (June 2007) last week with the goal of reaching 152 and BR of at least 160. I am not sure if these scores were to high to have hope for LOL – but after I checked my mark my score was 146 and a BR of 156.

    Some observations of my test were as follows:

    LG Section 1 – I attempted all 4 games but was not able to finish the last game. The second game I read a rule totally wrong which really impacted my score. Also, the third game took me the longest to do.

    LR Section 2 & 3 – I was able to attempt 17 and 20 questions respectively in those sections. To be honest – I have never attempted that many LR questions before in a timed test– so I was really happy with my improvement.

    RC Section 4 – I was only able to do 2 passages, and the second passage that I did read I made some silly mistakes when I looked over the test.

    Furthermore, one of the things that impacted my test score I think was doing LSAT questions on paper for the first time. Usually when doing the CC – I would type up my answers or analyze an RC passage on a word doc. Thus, when I actually did the test – my note taking skills in RC and LR did impact me.

    As my username says Trust the Process LOL & from watching a lot of the webinars – I understand studying for the LSAT has different stages that many students go through. I like to call these stages: crawling, walking and running. The crawling stage – is where in which you complete the CC, build your foundation and start working on your pacing skills (which I think I am in right now and probably takes the longest amount of time). The walking stage – is doing timed sections on a more frequent basis, solidifying your knowledge foundations and really improving on your question pace. The last stage – running stage: now you are only focusing on PT’s and BRs.

    The questions that I wanted to ask you all were:

  • Did any of you have a similar starting path?
  • How did you get through the “crawling” stage?
  • How did you not let your score impact your studying and confidence level?
  • Moving forward - I am going to be focusing a lot more of doing work on paper, start creating a test strategy, RC annotation plan and also start doing my CC problem sets. I know this should at least help improve my knowledge and speed on my upcoming PT’s.

    My goal is to get into the 170’s and I know it will take a lot of effort. Anyways wish me luck everyone and thanks for your advice in advance!

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    I'm an international LSAT taker from India; gave my first attempt in December 2017 with a 157, I'd been PT-ing in the high 160's but I also have severe anxiety and I walked out of that test not remembering anything so I knew I was going to bomb. My second attempt was in June 2018, my PT average was 175, scored a 165 on the actual test. This time I was much calmer and more collected, but had to rush to the bathroom twice during the test because I felt like I was going to throw up. I'm working on my anxiety and am confident I can do much much better next time. I plan to take the October test and score at least above 170.

    I just wanted to know if giving it again is the wisest choice and if my goal score is too irrational?

    It's my dream to attend Harvard Law, do you think it's worth giving another shot or have I already missed the train?

    Thank you for reading, and apologies for such a longgg question. :)

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    I was talking to my friend that is taking the MCAT soon and she said that many people have told her that although she is enrolled in a course, she should do other types of studying outside of that. So, I was wondering if that is true or not of the LSAT. Should the CC be enough or do you guys recommend doing more outside of this course, and if so, what would you suggest?

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    Is it better to retake preptest right the way (like after we have blind reviewed and checked the videos, so it's still fresh in our mind) or wait a couple weeks or month before retaking it (to test how much of the reasoning did we retain?)

    Thanks guys!

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    So just wanted to get some input and see what you guys think about whether LSAT skills fade over time. Now, apparently the LSAT is supposed to a rigorous logic test that provides metric defining a candisate’s aptitude in reading dense passages and complex conditional statements. Also, some argue that it’s supposed to provide training for law school? But the latter idea has really got me thinking...do some of these skills fade over time? And if they do is the fact a student reached a high score in the past at least somewhat indicative of their future success? I guess what I mean to ask is if a student say scored 165 on the June 2018 LSAT but after doing some pt’s 2 years later cannot score that anymore then is that a big deal? Was the point of taking the LSAT truly to retain certain skills or just measure a students ability to perform on a hard test in the peak of their career? How many of you would care if you got the score you wanted but years later lost the ability to do that again?

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    So I only have 7Sage premium and therefore have PT's up to 58. However I have printed copies of PT's 62-71 (obviously without 7Sage explanations though) and considering I only have 6/7 weeks until test day and only able to do 2 PT's a week without burning out, what would you guys recommend? Should I just take the older LSAT's that I have available on 7Sage with the explanations or do the newer ones and try to make do... Thanks for any advice!

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    Hi all. I'm signed up for the September 2018 test. I work full-time as a paralegal and this summer has been an absolute nightmare as two of my colleagues left for medical reasons and work has piled up, leaving almost no time to study. I'm moving much slower in my prep as a result, and am strongly considering taking the test at a later date since I'm not in a huge rush to apply to law school this fall.

    That said, has anyone postponed their test due to feeling unprepared? I think I read somewhere that it's possible to push your test to a different date...is this something LSAC handles? I'm also not sure (given how unpredictable work is) if I want to move it to November or to January--does anyone know if you need to commit to a new date, or if there's a more general rescheduling voucher (for lack of a better word) to delay your test if you've already paid to take it on one day? Any advice is appreciated!

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