I was wondering which would be the better route after finishing my CC on 7sage. I've been loving the CC so far and I am thinking ahead to what I am going to use in conjuncture with 7sage. I heard that the trainer's LG sections is not so great, so I was wondering if I should use manhattan prep's LR and RC books to go along with the CC, or go with the Lsat Trainer anyway?

Drill packs are a bit overwhelming. I understand that quality is better than quantity when it comes to studying. So I want to pace myself in the most practical way as possible.

I am studying 5 days week.

I could use a little structure when it comes to LG, LR, and RC sections.

Can anyone recommend a daily and weekly study schedule for drill packs 1-16?

Thank you so much for your advice.

I just started my 7Sage journey and I’ve been going though the CC, but when it comes to taking the June 2007 diagnostic, I get so much anxiety and I keep putting it off and moving onto the other lessons. I’ve taken diagnostics in the past when I used to self-study and was in other prep courses, but they’ve always been so low that I always get discouraged (which is why I’ve been too nervous to take it this time around).

Am I potentially hurting my chances of getting a high LSAT score by not taking a diagnostic before I start learning and doing problem sets? If so, how can I overcome this anxiety?

will start the RC section soon. I really appreciate it if you guys can give me advice on how to carry on from here. Once I finish the LG section I will start fullproofing the bundle while going over the RC CC. I will watch the webinar on what to do after I finish but I could use some strategies. (When to take timed sections?) ( when and how many times to take full PTs) So basically for my situation which im sure many of you have been through whats the best way to go?

hey all

this is probably a pretty easy question, but i've had some trouble finding an answer and i just wanna confirm.

if you already took an LSAT with the old handwritten writing sample, if you retook the 2019 June LSAT (and other future LSATs going forward), do you have to do the computer new writing sample? or can you just ignore it because you already have a handwritten writing sample from the a previous LSAT?

also, can someone show where on LSAC's website or in general this information is provided? thank you!

Hi all,

I started studying for the lsat two months ago, although I’m ramping it up now (originally studied about 10-15 hours a week, trying to aim for 20 now) and I’ve mostly been sticking to the Khan Academy material. I’d like to branch out to more paper resources now though, I’m finding that I likely don’t perform as well digitally since I work better on paper, what resources do you recommend? I plan on buying the lsat trainer today since reddit seems to rave about it, and supplement with 7sage content as per suggestions, what else can I do to improve?

I got a 149 diagnostic and I’m aiming for a score between 160-165 at my lsat in late Sepetember, planning on taking the lsat again next summer as well. What are your thoughts on this plan? What should I keep in mind? I know a lot of past comments have been made about keeping your expectations realistic being imperative. Keep in mind I’m in Canada and the 160-165 range is around lsat averages here, i’m not aiming for scholarships.

As well, also interested more in Logical Reasoning content than logic games since I seem to do well in logic games.

Thanks in advance!

So I just registered for the September 2019 LSAT on BYU's campus. I'm trying to find out where on campus the test is actually administered, but I can't find anything. Is that something that I won't be able to find out until I can print my admission ticket? Any information is appreciated! Thanks!

Okay, I'm a bit confused on how to BR.

Do I go through a timed PT/Section, transfer my answers to different sheet/7sage, and then go back and go over my pt once again un-timed?

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question and I don't know if anyone would know for sure I guess... but this

would be the exact model the LSAC will be using for the exam, correct?

And did anyone else buy the tablet to simulate the test? Was it worth it? And did you get the keyboard as well or you only need the tablet and pen.. And did you get the one with the larger storage or smaller if you're only using it for test prep?

Thanks a bunch guys!

Does anyone know on average how many points above a school's median would it take to get a full tuition scholarship, maybe even more than that? Obviously, they take other part of the application into account but assuming those are good

Hey guys,

How should I practice doing 5 sections on the digital practice tests, especially if I'm running out of pt's (since I only have the Starter Pack)?

Should I just do the extra section from a different PT on paper and go back to digital?

Also, if I purchase a PT as an add-on (the ones that cost 29.97 dollars each), I get to do it on digital too, right?

Thanks for your #help !

I am stably getting bet 165-167.

I started prep exactly a month ago, kicking off from 159.

However, never got 170+ in timed set yet.

Are there any tips on getting to 170+ from mid 160??

Think I can literally do anything for that. So desperate.

Also, for those who get 170+, how long did it take for you to get that score from the first prep and from mid160 respectively??

Thank you in advance:)

My average BR score up until 68 was 175+, and as soon as I hit 70, it dropped to 170, and today I got 168 for BR.

I’m getting a lot more RC questions wrong.

I used to get -1~-3 for RC during BR, but I got -7 today. Actual score dropped as well.

Is there a significant difference between 60s and lower RC passages and 70+ passages? I usually get -0 on my untimed drill, so I don’t thinks drilling older passages would be helpful in this case. Two weeks til the real test and I’m screwed.

So I sat for the March LSAT after studying from November 2018 to the test date and my PT average was sitting around 171. However, I scored a 166 on the real thing. Now, my first section on the march test was logic games. I have type 1 diabetes and let's just say things during the first section did not go as planned. My insulin pump broke and my blood sugar was a disaster. Thus, I ended up having to guess on 5 questions in LG (average is -.06).

With all that being said, I am thinking that given what happend on test day, I actually did pretty well. At this point, I am getting mentally ready for my retake this week, and feel pretty good. But, I still have nagging doubts that this exam won't go much better. Any words of encouragement would be appreciated! I hope everyone does well.

I will start the RC section soon. I really appreciate it if you guys can give me advice on how to carry on from here. Once I finish the LG section I will start fullproofing the bundle while going over the RC CC. I will watch the webinar on what to do after I finish but I could use some strategies. (When to take timed sections?) ( when and how many times to take full PTs) So basically for my situation which im sure many of you have been through whats the best way to go?

Hey,

I have been studying for LSAT for a while and have done all the PTs. For the most recent PTs, I have done them for 2-3 times. I registered for the July LSAT and I am very worried that I do not have any unfamiliar PTs to simulate the actual testing if I remember the questions and passages and even answers from the time I did the PTs. I wonder if anyone has similar experience with this and could give me some advice.

Hi everyone!

I was browsing through the "How to study for the digital" discussion and saw it was mostly format related questions... I haven't seen discussions on how people are adapting to digital so thought I might get one going. I have written Nov 2018, March 2019 tests (both 161 lol) so definitely required some adjustments!

I have taken I think 5 PTs using the digital tester and feel like I've developed my "toolbox" of techniques. My scores are currently in the upper 160s/lower 170s... I think one of the main reasons I've seen this jump is because the digital tester has allowed me to gain about 5 mins per section. Would love to hear others' tips + tricks as well!

(PS -- Thanks to the 7Sage team for all their work on the digital tester!! I am using an iPad and Apple pencil and it works beautifully!!)

7/15/2019 edit after my experience on July 2019 digital test

Get psyched!

I was anxious when I realized July might be digital. But I forced myself to feel excited about it and I got over my anxiety a lot quicker than I thought I would.

Use highlighter for segmenting LR stims

I used to break up LR stims by segmenting them with pencil / marks. Not being able to segment the stim was what I feared most, but now I use the orange highlighter to segment the passages by marking the period or the space between words. It actually works so much better than my pencil marks because the orange pops.

womp womp, the real digital won't let you highlight only spaces. I used the red highlighter to highlight the conclusion of the argument and focused on that and used the yellow highlighter to highlight key/relevant premises (but only when I really needed to/for complicated stims... for me, highlighting conclusion was usually enough).

Use highlighter for marking potential answer options

The "eliminate" option is super helpful, but I found making highlight marks on the answer options that are potentials help my eyes focus on the contenders a little better than when I only eliminate answer options.

https://i.imgur.com/kSI5f78.png

Marking up RC

I use the memory method for RC. I use a highlighter to highlight any information I think I would need to remember.

If it's a particularly complicated passage with 2 ideas/views/theories/etc. in the passage, I use one highlighter to mark up things related to group 1 and the other highlighter for group 2.

I also use alternating highlighter color to highlight the first word of each paragraph so that I can easily distinguish paragraphs.

In my scratch paper, I jot down the paragraph # along with 1-2 key words about that paragraph. Since you can't see the entire passage in one view, mapping the passage out like this is super helpful in getting me to the right place in the passage quickly, esp for paragraph references (e.g. "What is the purpose of the third paragraph?")

Fold scrap paper in half, hot dog style

My middle school math teacher was very insistent on us folding our papers in half to create 2 columns and completing assignments with our work flowing from left column downward, then right column downward (if that makes sense...) It helped stay organized and efficiently used the space, especially on unlined paper. 20ish years later, I still do this with any kind of scrap paper note taking, and it's been helpful for me on the LSATs as well. Since the space is narrow, it helps me write straighter and groups notes into a smaller surface area so when I'm looking at my paper the notes come into single view. When I make a mistake, I just cross it out and continue underneath. I only put a single line through it JUST in case it turns out I didn't make a mistake so that the notes are still legible. I can rewrite it quickly (or just refer to it) without spending extra time trying to figure out what I had written.

Knowing exactly how my scrap paper will flow has taken the guesswork out of where I'm going to write, and taking out that guesswork I think has been impactful in my race against time.

PS -- for LG, I fold the paper so that the right column is slightly larger than the left. I'll write the game board on the right column and do questions on the left.

LG scrap paper use example

https://i.imgur.com/yj5biTc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3ucjcQm.jpg

Clearly mark everything on scrap paper

I clearly number all the notes I take. When I'm done with a question I draw a horizontal line that separates it from the next question. If feel confident of my answer, I draw a single, large diagonal line through that section of notes. If I'm NOT confident of my answer and feel like I'll come back to it, I circle or star the question number prominently.

Practice solving problems with 1:30 timer countdown

I LOVE that there's a built in timer, but at first it was terrifying, especially towards the end. I freaked out when the clock turned red at the 5 min mark and panic heightened especially after the 2 min mark. Knowing that I generally average a little over 1 min/question, I knew that it would be critical for me to keep my cool at the end, especially if I'm actually solving a new question and not reviewing. I set a timer at 1:30 and just trained myself to "be normal" as I watch the timer countdown. I developed an awareness of what it feels like watching the countdown at the 1 min mark, at the 30 second mark, 15 second mark etc... basically, I realized that 30 seconds is a lot "longer" than I thought (also, planking for 30 seconds feels like 30 mins haha). Anyways, a calm 30 seconds vs. panicked 30 seconds can be the difference between -0 vs. -4

Simplify your mark ups (added 5/24)

This technique may be more suitable for those scoring 160+ who have a fairly strong grasp of the LSATs.

When I was preparing for paper LSATs, as my skills grew, my passage mark ups became simpler: I underlined things or segmented sentences using / marks. Since on paper, I really only used 1 type of mark-up (lines), I have been able to translate that into digital using only 1 highlighter tool. I gave myself about 6 LR sections to adjust any time I made a change before making a judgement call on its effectiveness.

When I learned the digital tester would include multiple highlighting options, I was excited at first. Then I realized that switching among the different functions is somewhat time consuming. I tried my best to find a mark-up technique that uses only 1 highlighter tool.

If your paper test mark ups have been fairly complex (on average, you use 3+ types of symbols like brackets, underlining and circling), try simplifying it by evaluating which kinds of mark ups are absolutely vital to the way you process information. You may find that there are some marks you make more out of habit than necessity.

Anyways, these are some tools I've developed for myself to prepare for digital. I'll post a pic of examples of LR passage mark ups soon.

Would love to hear tips and tricks from others as well!

What is the best way to improve on each section of the lsat?

What strategies have you guys used to help you improve?

Tell me straight up what I've got to do in order to improve. Step by step.

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Hi guys!

I've been super into podcasts as of late and I thought it'd be great to add something LSAT related to my arsenal. This could encompass explicitly LSAT/Law School related podcasts and anything else along the lines of: mediation, psychology, philosophy etc. I'm up for any suggestion really!

Side note: Feel free to include fun stuff too! Balance is key!

Anyone taking LSAT at Brookdale Community College, NJ?

Instead of printing out the PTs... Do you have a way to study on the tablet? Since the test is no longer in paper I am trying to avoid printing. Should I download PDF on my tablet and scan all my study notes etc?

Hi everyone,

My psychologist forgot to include a specific accommodation on my documents and the documents were already submitted. Also, the deadline has passed. Is there a way to submit new documentation? Any had this problem before? I’m really worried and I know I will do poorly without this specific accommodation.

Hi Everyone,

I took my first timed diagnostic today and I scored a 140. LR was by far my best section (still guessed a couple due to timing) and I basically guessed my way through the entire LG section (haven't learned this yet). On reading comp, I was also a little constrained by time, which forced me to guess a couple of questions as well.

Considering that timing was an issue, on top of that I had absolutely no idea how to approach any of the LG, I believe that a 140 is not an awful first take at the LSAT. I am sure, when I start learning LG and further strengthen my RC AND LR, I will be able to increase my score significantly.

Even though a 140 is not ideal, do you guys think a score in the 160s is possible in the future?

For those of us who are still having challenges with timing, I found this semi-useful guessing strategy on Powerscore’s website and wanted to share

« if you cannot finish the final questions in a section, in the Logical Reasoning section you should always guess answer choice (E). In the Reading Comprehension section you should always guess answer choice (D), and in the Logic Games section you should guess (A) »

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/guessing.cfm