Oftentimes, when I sit down to take a practice section or a PT, I tend to psych myself out. I try not to care about the score or how many questions I get wrong, but just trying not to care doesn't really work for me. What are some things you tell yourself or do to get out of your head and genuinely not care about how you do on the test?

I'm not talking about where you don't take the questions seriously--but you take the test in a way where you don't care about doing well in terms of the score, but care about taking the test in a strategic way and just doing your best.

Hello,

I bought the starter course, and I'm very likely going to buy the Ultimate package. I am taking the December test and will be studying full time as I don't have school or work.

I have a few questions though:

How does the money back guarantee work? Is there anything that would invalidate this?

From people who might have the ultimate package are you finding the test explanations for the more recent tests PT 60 and beyond helpful?

Does the price of extending access go up if I have a better package? (currently it is $25 for one month and $75 for 6 months with the starter package)

Any other comments/advice is welcome!

Thanks for all the help guys, love the course so far.

Best regards,

Patrick

Im freaking out a little... so, I miss way more questions when I do a timed test vs untimed test.

I'll usually miss like 3- 5 questions on a lr section untimed but when I time myself, I will miss like 9 questions on a lr section.

I'll miss about 4-5 questions on rc (my most difficult section), but when timed, i miss like 12 questions or more.

Definitely not good.

Also, on timed tests, i miss more on my second lr section than first...and usually i will start missing a bunch of questions toeards the end of the section. Is this test fatigue?

Has anybody struggled with missing more questions on timed tests and dealing with test fatigue? If so, any tips and advice that might help?

Please and thank you!

Hi, I am trying to acquire PT77 to PT81. Are there any PDFS or digital versions available that I will get to print multiple times?

You will start your week off right. You will get through the LSAT. You will get your score. You will apply and get into law school. You will be a lawyer and do awesome lawyer things!

For any 7sagers out there feeling stressed/ frustrated/ fatigued/ etc, you're not alone; and you are more than your current circumstance. Keep grinding!!

Cheers,

Chris

7sage Community,

I'd like to take a moment to share my facebook page with this community that has been so close to me over the last 12+ months.

https://www.facebook.com/johnny.falcon.3

Please visit if possible, and show support!

I've had the incredible opportunity of meeting of meeting a few folks from the 7sage community. I turn to the discussion boards to keep me sane when I need that break from studying. This time, it's to ask for support. After last night's events in my hometown, I want to help in any way I can. For personal reasons, I am compelled to do what I can to give back to the city that has raised me.

Please note that I have partnered with @"Dillon A. Wright" before posting.

I’ve always wondered how people approach the LR section. Do you read the question stem first or stimulus? After that, how do you approach the question - finding conclusion and the support?

Also, what is the best way to review LR? And what are some important fundamentals when it comes to the LR section of the test? Thanks :)!

Hey everyone,

So I was hoping you guys could give me some feedback on my recent LSAT studies. I am planning to eventually take the LSAT as I want to earn a JD/MBA. I was studying for the LSAT from January 2016- August 2016 and soon stopped because it got to be too much with my classes; I am a senior majoring earning a degree in business administration. I had quit also because of frustration. I was hitting 154-160 on timed practice tests in August 2016 after studying all Spring and summer; I felt that logical reasoning became my most consistent section as I progressed from getting only 5 per section wrong untimed to timed. My performance on logic games and reading comp was very fickle, though oddly on a good day my highest section scores have been in those sections. Anyways I digress. I took an untimed practice test recently after several months of not studying and got a 165 untimed. This is the highest I've ever gotten untimed and I would honestly be satisfied with anything above a 162 on test day. At this point should I start going back to timed practice? Even though I haven't studied for several months I feel like taking a break has really given me a fresh perspective, but I'm just scared to go straight back into timed practice. Also I don't feel like it make sense to try and postpone practice until you get a 175+...maybe 170. How can I get a 162+

Hello all -

I recently finished a course on Couresera.com called "Learning How to Learn." I know, it sounds crazy to think that you, a possible future attorney, need to learn how to learn. But I found this course to be EXTREMELY HELPFUL in terms of studying and taking the LSAT. This is a free course and you can finish it in an afternoon. I recommend it.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

So I was just about done with the CC with 4 Logic games to go, when all of a sudden I cant seem to concentrate anymore, whether I am trying to just watch a video on how to do an LG or do it on my own. I don't really understand why I am tired when I usually work through the CC an average of 6 days a week, leaving Sundays as a rest day because I'm busy on that day anyway. Any thoughts or advice? The December Test is almost here so I feel like I do not have time to burn out now.

The video doesn't open..any suggestions thanks

I received a 150 on my first practice test. With 8 months until the June test, is it possible to bring this to at least a 165? I feel very discouraged about this starting point.....

Should I start 7sage during this super busy semester (research fellowship, 17 credits, 2 jobs) or begin in January when my load is a bit lighter?

I have a 3.9 GPA and would hate for a crappy LSAT to ruin my opportunities. Thanks for the help, as always!

Hey everyone! Loving 7sage so far! My Starter access expires on Oct. 15. I bought the Starter because I wanted to try out the course before I committed to Ultimate+. I have (of course!) decided that I love 7sage and would love to get the Ultimate+ course. I have a couple of questions though:

Is it better (read cheaper!) to upgrade and add-on more months after or should I just let this one expire and buy Ultimate+ outright with 18 months of access? I definitely want to get a great score and would like to put in at least a year of dedicated prep, so I would need more than the 3 months of additional access that you get when you upgrade.

If I buy Ultimate+ outright or upgrade to it, will the history of work I did in Starter still be preserved?

Looking forward to learning from and giving back to this amazing community!

Thanks!

-Eeshan

[Admin note: Ultimate+ includes 12 months now]

So, I was drilling some LR questions by type (MSS, SA, MBT) and there were a few answers that I was just under confidant on. I was then was wondering well what do I do what this information? I also noticed that a few answers I blind reviewed and changed answers were wrong and the original answer I picked was correct. How can I use this information to improve? In other words, what is the purpose/benefit of identifying over/under confidence?

The LSAT makes me hate myself. That is all.

JY always emphasizes the skipping strategy when taking timed PTs, but I think this can help with Core Curriculum as well.

When you don't understand something at first, sometimes its best to just skip it and come back to it later. I've done this many times with the core curriculum on questions that I didn't understand on my "first round" through. On the "second round", I come back with a clearer mind and different perspective, helping me better understand questions I didn't understand the first time though.

Just some advice that I hope helps someone in their LSAT studies!

Hi All,

So I've started writing practice exams from 9am-1pm on Saturdays to prepare myself for my exam on Dec 2. Heres my problem: whenever I write my exam around 12:00 my stomach starts growling really loudly, I start getting hungry. I'm just wondering if anyone is on the same boat as me? I don't really like eating a big breakfast at 7:30 am so idk what to do.. LOL

Hey everyone,

YouTube recommended me this video about test anxiety (in general), and I thought it would be helpful for some of you as well!

I know Sufficient Assumptions! Lol...

Learning is fun, exciting, challenging, and intriguing all at the same time, and so much more!

https://i.imgur.com/W4WzMd5.gif

Hey 7Sagers! Time for another photo contest. ;) Been a while since the last one, hasn't it?

This time we're looking for great student-submitted pictures for our YouTube videos and for our website. Here's some examples of past photos that we've accepted:

http://bit.ly/1EUWz54

http://bit.ly/1dz5uwX

http://bit.ly/1DFYaV4

We're not looking for the exact same type of pictures shown above, those are just examples of what we've had in the past. Think outside the box! We love that stuff.

Here are the details:

Need some ideas to get you going?

#Deadline is October 15th!

Hi everyone,

So I’m about to start PTing now and I have a question when it comes to reviewing your exam, either via BR or without.

I know what BR is but what exactly is it about BR that makes it work?

And I’ve been wondering: what if someone checked the answers right away after a PT and tried to figure out why they got a question wrong without consulting other resources. Does it offer the same benefit as BR and why? Thank you :)!

So, I've been studying for the LSAT on and off since January. Two months ago my best friend and I linked up to study and it has been incredibly beneficial to us both. We are each hitting about 60 to 70 solid hours of studying every week for the past 2 months. Over this time period, my scores have plateaued in LR. I am averaging -6 on a section of LR and it is driving me bonkers.

We have printed out and completed pretty much all 20-29 question type drills, we BR thoroughly, and I even went back to refresh with flashcards on the all the type of flaws. I'm at PT 59 and I have seen almost all LR questions from 10 up until this PT. Our method of attack seems to be working at least for my buddy--he got -0 on 4 LR passages in a row under 29 mins. Unlike me, my friend is a gifted thinker, but I can't say all this studying is clicking for me. Side note: it was actually quite amazing to see this happen. He went from -8/-10 per section LR average to -0 overnight.

I feel as if I am going backwards a bit. And with December approaching, I'm stressing out because of how far away I am from a 173. Is this a normal stage of studying? or should I change things up? Time is a little bit of an issue for me and I have identified where that time is going to, but I just make silly mistakes. I told myself to slow down on reading the stimulus in my last LR timed section (4/5 difficulty). Once again, I missed seven. Four of these questions came down to either subtle words in the stimulus or the ACs that I glossed over. I even correctly spotted the only major flaw on a 4/5 difficulty question in 15 seconds, but yet I picked the wrong answer choice. One of the missed questions was a 1/5 difficulty NA.

I keep making minor mistakes like these on every section test I take. Even though I want to say they are minor, they are actually huge. These 'minor' errors are holding me back and I cannot see how else to drill or study to get rid of them. Should I just spend 30 mins on a question I got wrong creating analogous arguments, playing around weakening/strengthening ect. them? I'm just venting at this point but if anyone has any advice at all, I would really appreciate it. Thank you!

Quick question for everyone regarding LR timing.

Here's a scenario:

(A) skip the question and come back to it later on. Or...

(B) quickly make an educated guess and move on?

My concern is that I don't want to engage in the "sunk costs" fallacy and finish out then, simply because I've invested so much time in it already. Yet I also don't want to skip a difficult stimulus, only to come back to it later on and have trouble remembering all of the key components of the question again, rather than just answering when they are fresh in my mind.

Any thoughts/tips? How long do you wait before pulling the trigger to answer or to skip? I'm especially interested in people who have tried out both strategies above and prefer one over the other. Or, perhaps rather than "A" and "B" above, there is a strategy "C" that I'm unaware of. In fact, give me ANY advice you all have when it comes to finishing an LR because I sure as hell can't seem to do it.

Thanks in advance, everyone.

P.S. Yes, I have seen the 7Sage webinar "Skip It". Alas, I'm still unsure what do in this particular kind of situation.

Hi everyone!

I took the June 2017 LSAT and didn't do so well since I didn't know how to prepare for the LSAT. Sadly, the LSAT was not offered in my country and I had to take it in Taiwan. I was down with a flu and I wanted to reschedule my exam but my ticket and hotel wasn't refundable or it can't be scheduled to a different date. My score was really bad and I did not cancel it because I wanted to see how poorly I have truly done. Things got crazy in the office which is why I was able to start studying for my LSAT last September 1(planning to take the December LSAT). I am doing well with the quizzes and I got a score of 152 on the PrepTest June 2007 ( was not able to do the blind review, which is why I am retaking it as practice). I am aiming for the score of 168-172.

With everything mentioned above, am I too chill with my studying? Should I be worried? Should I start panicking when I do all the LSAT PrepTest at the end of September until December and I still don't meet my goal?

Hi all -

I'm aiming to take the test in December and/or February, with June as a backup.

Thus far, I've finished the CC, taken PT36, Foolproofed games from PTs 1-15, and worked on some LR and RC drills.

From here on out, I'd like to take a PT each Saturday. I'm wondering --

(1) Is it possible/advisable to continue Foolproofing games (PTs 16-35) while also running this type of PT cycle, or should I dedicate myself to finishing the Foolproofing before doing more PTs? (With the latter approach -- I'm worried that I'm not getting enough exposure to full-length PTs).

(2) For those planning on Dec or Feb -- do you all have any recommended PT schedules? If I do a PT per week, I can expect to finish about 9-10 PTs by the time Dec rolls around, and then I plan on doing 2 PTs per week between the Dec & Feb exams in order to get an additional 20 PTs by Feb. (This would also leave me with about 15 fresh PTs until June, in case I need to retake).

(3) Is there a recommended order in which to take the PTs (i.e. might it be best to mix up older and recent tests since time is limited until Dec/Feb)?

Many thanks!