Hello 7 sage community & world,

The title is pretty self-explanatory-- unfortunately, I'm not ready for the December 2017 LSAT.

Currently, my life belongs, mostly,to my full-time job :) (can you tell this smiley is the most sarcasm-filled face ever?!)

I work about 40-45 hours a week, which I will say is quite moderate in comparison to others' hours I have seen on 7sage, but what this means for me is simply that I do not have the time to treat the LSAT as a full-time job, as my I whole-heartedly believe should be done if you have the time, because I still have other responsibilities in my life.

Here is my plan: Apply for the 2018-2019 cycle.

So, while I know this gives me a comfortable amount of time to study for June, I'm afraid changing my exam date won't be a good look for me, given that I was supposed to test in September, but ultimately decided not to. On top of that, if I were to make my desired score on the June 18 exam, I'd still be considered a super-splitter :(

Wise people, what do you all recommend? Take the exam on December 2017, to the best of my current abilities, or, take in June 2018 with better chances of being able to score a 170+ ?

I appreciate all of you !!! TIA

Hey Folks,

I made the classic mistake of not sticking to my schedule and fell behind my LSAT prep. At this point I’ve taken 3 PTs and have done progressively better but still have a ways to go before I reach my target score. I’ve covered the fundamentals of LR and LG. Any tips on how to finish strong over the next month?

Hey everyone,

I was wondering when you suggested asking for letters of rec from professors? I don't want to ask too early as I'm taking classes with both of them right now and am using it as an opportunity to try and impress but I also don't want to wait too long and have them take too long to write. I'm taking the LSAT in December and hoping to send my apps right after we get those scores back.

Thoughts?

It's now available for pre-order on Amazon.

This may sound odd, but yesterday I took PT 60 and at the end of the test couldn't hear anything due to the ringing in my ears. I'm certain its from sitting for a long amount of time in absolute silence. I have some documented hearing loss from my time in the military but yesterday during and after the test was bad. During the test it got so bad that it felt like I had just gone to the range and shot for a while with no ear protection, and afterwards my ears range for the rest of the day. My question is have any of you ever gotten special accommodation for something like this, even just to bring a fan to the testing room, and if so how did you go about doing it?

Also, how long on average do you all spend BRing a full PT? Its taken me half the day to do 1 section of LR cookie cutter review. Im afraid that Im taking too long during BR and possibly overthinking things. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

I am debating which course to take. I will be writing in Feb (3 months away) and considering the LSAT Premium or Ultimate. I know extension is possible. But wondering if the fee is for extension?

So I have been having this problem lately where I keep telling myself that if I can't get a certain score I shouldn't even go to law school. My mom went to Penn, and all of my friends who went to law school went to T14 schools. I'm studying about 25 hours a week, but I always feel like I'm not doing enough. Anyway, has anyone else been in a situation where your score just doesn't feel good enough?

I’m done with the LSAT and I sold my powerscore and lsat trainer through the pre law society Facebook page of my undergrad. Haven’t been able to find somewhere to sell my LSAC prep tests and those “10 actual official” books

hello!

there used to be filtering options in the blind review pages, like there are in the question bank. it was very useful when sorting the questions according to difficulties etc when just looking at a section.

it's been gone and i assumed it was a bug or it was temporarily disabled for updates and such, but it's been gone for a while now. is this an intended change? would be nice to have it back!

bonus: the passage above provides most support for which of the following?

a) at least some of the 7sage users miss the feature :)

b) my cat likes to drink milk

c) all Jedi use the Force

d) everybody dance now

e) give me the music

Just curious if anyone has received a fee waiver from Duke, I am interested in applying there and am wondering if they even send them out, I got several from other schools but not Duke.

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried a variant of "blind review" for a test they didn't circle questions for?

I want to "blind review" the Sept. 2017 test but didn't actively circle or note questions that I hesitated on since I wasn't thinking about the process when testing.

Help would be appreciated!

Thanks

Hello, I am looking for a tutor. Is there anyone that any of you would recommend? I am taking the February LSAT. I'm not good at self studying. I have been studying since May and a lot of this stuff is still so confusing. Please help...

Pretty much one month left to go before D-Day and my motto is "One PT a day keeps the low scores away (Hopefully.)" I've completed 67% of the course which lands me right before starting grouping games. RC is saved for last, although I may just go ahead and finish LG and RC simultaneously.

I originally scored 154 on the baseline PT 3 months ago.

Right now I'm roughly missing about -6 on LR and -8 on LG and ~9 on RC.

I'll take PT59 tomorrow morning to set a baseline for November and hopefully see improvements from there each day. My Goal is to get at least above a 165. Hopefully that's realistic.

After the December 2nd test, I'm planning on writing the Personal Statement while I wait for the score. Resume is already done. I'll apply to schools immediately after I receive the Dec score.

Does anyone have any suggestions for improvement? Am I dropping the ball somewhere?

I started taking this course a month or two ago in preparation for the December LSAT. I finally started doing real practice tests recently. I never did an initial diagnostic, I didn't really care, I knew I was shooting for regularly hitting the mid-170s so that if I had a worst case scenario day I would be in the high 160's. I figured I was at worst at high-150s, probably in the low 160s, and at best mid 160s.

Well, except for one practice test that was my 3rd practice test of the day (believe me, I learned my lesson... no need to chide me), and one that I had done every section of many months previously and was overthinking/remembering most of my original answers, I am averaging a 168.4. I've hit 170 three times, 171, 171, and today a 170.

I have not done the RC sections of the curriculum, but have seen my total wrong in that section drop from ~7 to ~1, first to most recent (with a very strong and statistically significant negative trend line).

I feel that I have the logic games pretty much down. I was struggling until yesterday as a matter of fact, but it finally clicked for me. My most recent test was -1, and that one question was just a mindless, inexcusable error.

I am finishing both of these sections with ~5-10 minutes remaining.

But now here is my problem. I am regressing on LR - significantly. I started out with one test where I had a total of -2 between both sections. I am now struggling to get my total wrong below 10. Previously, I was finishing very quickly, with about 5, if not more time to go back and review circled questions. I was finding my biggest issue was not reading carefully or not reading all the answers, so I slowed down. Now I am struggling to finish every question (usually 23 done comfortably, 2-3 rushed), and my score in this section has dropped appreciably. What was my strength has become my weakness.

On my first 170, it was my near perfection in the LR sections that buoyed my score over 170. Now, they are the only thing holding me back from hitting it every time, and from pushing into the mid to high 170s.

Specifically within the section, according to the 7Sage Metric of Priority the questions that need the most attention are: MSS, NA, PSA, AP, and Weaken questions, and in terms of my percentage wrong relative to the average 7sage student are: PRINC, AP, Weaken, and in terms of overall percentage wrong: PRINC, AP, MBF, Para, and MSS.

So the recurring/most pressing issues are:

MSS

NA

PSA

AP

Weaken

PRINC

I am at a loss for what a common root could be, except for perhaps 1) overthinking or 2) having issues with English to 'Lawgic."

Has anyone had this problem, where studying more for your strongest section has seemingly negatively impacted your performance? Is this weird inverse correlation between sections normal for others?

Do I just need to shut the hell up and be grateful for the scores I am getting and just study LR more?

Thanks!!!

I just wanted to give my quick thoughts on the LSAC forum I attended.

1.) Many of the schools were giving out fee waivers (didn't apply to me since I'm applying next cycle) but for the most part it seemed like most were giving them out.

2.) The seminars that I attended were quite informative:

I went to the Forum 101 and What do Lawyers do ones and both had very generous Q&A's. The 101 one had a couple of Admissions people running it so it was quite nice to ask specific questions that you may not be able to ask otherwise. The Lawyer one had about 6 attorneys working it, most of them practiced different disciplines of law so they brought a wide perspective. Again, there was a nice Q&A and they also stayed afterwards in the hall to talk to us (this was fantastic since there was an M&A attorney that I got to chat with).

3.) A lot of heavy hitter admissions/deans were at the booths. As mentioned in another thread, great way to network and setup a contact within the law school you are targeting.

Overall, definitely worth the time if you are applying the same cycle or if you have never been to one. If you have already done a lot of your homework on your target schools, it may be redundant. I was in the latter but I still walked away with some new knowledge. Hope this helps.

Hey all. So I love the 7sage community. But. I think I would do better with a human on some LR questions to really understand the reasoning and where I'm going wrong. Sept test showed me I've not fully grasped LR which may have been fine if I hadn't bombed RC. I plan on taking again in June after seeing so many ask, what's the rush in applying? I'm shooting for a 170, which I'm 100% convinced I can achieve if I can blow LR away. Games are a breeze now and RC and I are in couple's counselling, so it's just the two-section doozy I'm dealing with at the moment. Thoughts on enrolling in a class versus getting a great yet affordable tutor? How can I maximize my time? Thanks everyone!

... and some of you may feel the same way. Here goes...

Do you ever feel like you have 2, maybe even three correct answer choices you can defend, and as correct answers, that's how you might even have phrased or hidden the correct answer choice. Bingo! apply now. Or we can start a consulting group to LSAC and give opinions on how to screw candidates even more. Although in at least my case, I would not have to make anything up. I would be writing from the heart, and with good intentions, and my attempt at formulating correct answer choices would probably just make the test authors chuckle, and then they would stick it in as answer choice E, you know that answer choice we pick because the first 4 looked like crap!

Thanks for joining me on my study break. :-)

Any low cost options out there? Greatly appreciated!

Are there any LR Q’s that are pretty much giveaways and you should almost always get correct?

https://twitter.com/JohnCMohl/status/924728295844872193

I imagine this question has been addressed before, so I apologize; however, I'm asking your final, personal opinion on the question of taking the February exam. If I feel ready, should I take it? Or should I wait to apply next cycle?

Thanks in advance 7sage

Hello,

I am going to be writing the December LSAT and I am having alot of difficulty with logic games. I have been drilling and improving my LR and RC but I am horrible and I mean the worst kind of horrible for logic games, I barely get a few questions right. What suggestions can you make to help me get over this hump in time for the December LSAT? While I am strong with LR and RC, I know every point matters on the LSAT and I want to do the best i possibly can. I think my issue comes from the abstract thinking involved if this helps with your answer.

Thank you.

I've been grinding every single day BRing, drilling old tests, going back to the CC and I still am stuck a whole month later at a 161.

I just finished PT 68 and I got -12LR (-6 & -6) -0LG -13RC

I don't even know where to begin with RC so I have neglected it a bit. But for LR, it is my main focus and always has been. I am so inconsistent with questions and it drives me nuts. For example, in section 2, there were seven level 3 difficulty questions, five level 4, and two level 5. Out of the statistically 'hardest' 14 questions in the section I missed one level 3 and one level 4 question. The other four I missed were all one and two level difficulty questions. I even constantly have a good 5-6 minutes left in the section to go back and answer a few skipped questions.

Does anyone else have this problem? I may be over analyzing the easier questions, but I really don't know how to fix this problem. In hindsight, for every LR section I would say all but one or two are very simple, easy mistakes (read QS wrong, lost my brain, didn't identify the conclusion, didn't find the tension in a RRE question). It's fine if that was once in a blue moon, but these little mistakes are very consistent from section to section. Each time they are something small but different. I started to create an excel sheet where I go in detail trying to reenforce what I am doing right and dispel the wrong tendencies I have. If score is a tell of that success then I am not sure that is working out too well.

I feel like I am right at the tipping point of everything just clicking but my scores say otherwise. It's confusing and hard to figure out exactly how to push myself over the top right now. Any suggestions would be wonderful!!

As always, thanks!

I decided to change my test date from December to February today and will need more material to study for the next 3 months. I haven't decided if I will be applying for Fall of 2018 or Fall of 2019 entrance; it depends on my PT scores for the next couple of months.

I'm on a very tight budget, but I feel that the Starter package may not be enough to help me ready.

I took the September LSAT (low 150s) and underperformed as compared to my PT scores. I'm aiming to obtain a score in the high 160s or low 170s. Any suggestions?

Hello! I have had some difficulty with a few vocabulary words in the LR/RC questions. Does anyone have a recommendation for learning vocab in preparation for the exam? I did some flash cards for SAT prep years ago, and that worked for me. I'm just not sure if SAT vocab words are the same as LSAT vocab words.

Thanks in advance :)

Sam