I am in the early stages of CC and I had a few questions about the problem sets:

When do you do the problem sets? After the lesson or do you keep it for after your BR? I have the ultimate version of 7sage and I know I have all the problem sets. However, I just want to maximize the use of the limited questions we have to study from.

Are the problem sets arranged in terms of difficulty? (Easiest to hardest?)

When you are doing your problem sets – are you timing yourself? If so, how long should one pace themselves to do one LR question? Currently, because I am going through the practice problems and typing up the breakdown of the stimulus, etc. – it takes me about 5 mins or so per one question. I know this is not ideal – but I want to make sure I am going slowly while I am learning the content – rather than going fast and not understanding the concept.

Any help would much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

After a diagnostic exam, what is the next step? Blind review? Cry? Sleep? Throw your prep books away? We the people want to know

Hello!

So I am planning on taking the September 2018 LSAT and have finished CC at this point. I know the general consensus for the next step is to start Fool Proofing but I am still unsure whether I should upgrade to Ultimate+ or use materials that have been passed down to me. I started studying this time last year with an in-person class so I have PTs 42-81 (half of them are already marked in pen/pencil). A friend of mine passed down his used LSAT Trainer, all 3 Powerscore Bibles, and the Powerscore LSAT Game Type Training II (which contains games from PT 21-40 and I could potentially use to Fool Proof).

At this point, I'm conflicted about whether I should upgrade. I know the bundle and drill packs would be nice (plus the fact that all these materials would be unmarked!!!) but I'm not sure if the Ultimate+ cost is justified considering how many of the materials I already have. I would love any insight, especially from people who have shopped around/compared different LSAT materials options! Thank you!!!

Does anyone know the policy on whether one can register for multiple upcoming tests, e.g., one in September and the other in November, prior to taking the first test?

Hello everyone, super new user here. I'm hoping to write the July/September LSAT for the first time.

I thought I'd open a thread to just have people come here and talk and console each other. God knows how miserable we all are for taking on the beast that is LSAT.

Nonetheless, after much tears, sweat, and frustrations, we much carry on.

Thanks everyone beforehand for participating.

So I should be finished with my CC by the end of this week and I will be starting to take PTs and foolproofing LG by June 4th which gives me enough time to do approximately 14-15 PTs. Is that enough? Too much? Too little? My target score is 163-166 and my cold diagnostic was 151.

Hey all!

I’ve been studying to take the June LSAT and am currently averaging about a 170 on my PTs. I’m very happy with my score and my progress, but I was hoping to get my average up a few points to be in the upper medians of the HSY ranges and/or to counteract any test anxiety on the day of the test.

For you high scorers, I was wondering if anyone has any advice as to how to push score when within this range. For context, I am tending to score about a -3 on RC, -0 on LG, and about -3 through -5 on LR. The question types that I am missing don’t seem to have any clear patterns except that I am slightly below average on my weakening questions in LR. I seem to be missing questions primarily due to overconfidence or missing a word in the questions stem. I’ve implemented strategies to try to make up for these mistakes, but I have not seen an increase in my score.

Any advice would appreciated! Thanks everyone and good luck in your studies.

Edit: My past 5 LSAT scores were three 170s, a 172, and a 167 (I was interrupted in multiple occasions on this LSAT and do not know how representative this score is).

I'm aiming to take the LSAT in September and am curious as to how many hours a day and how many days a week would be required to get a good score. I don't want to burn myself out but I also want to make sure I am doing enough daily to be prepared. I am considering the November as my backup test date too.

I feel so defeated right now, and I need some advice. I've been studying for this exam for a little over a year, and I feel like I need to reexamine my study methods. I've taken 23 PTs (including my diagnostic) in total, with an average PT score of 155. The following is my breakdown of the averages for each section: -7.1for LR / -7.9 LG /-10.6 RC. Looking at these numbers in conjunction with the amount of time I've been studying makes me feel so inadequate. I feel like crying as I write this, but I feel like I need to be as forthcoming as possible.

I've tried to follow all the wonderful advice given on this forum and it has, without a doubt, helped me to better understand the underlying concepts of this test. On a positive note, my BR score has been in the high 170s for the past 10 PTs I've taken, an indication, if any, that I'm grasping the concepts. I think it's important to note that I am very meticulous with my blind review method. I have literally hundreds of pages of notes and explanations for problems I've missed. Nevertheless, I still find myself struggling to perform at my best during PTs. I've attempted to remedy this by taking timed sections in between PTs, as well as drill specific question types. I've also implemented skipping strategies during timed tests which has allowed to get through all the questions with a couple minutes to spare at the end of each section. I have seen some improvement in my score. I have been scoring lately in the high 150s with even a couple of PTs in the low 160s. This has been a confidence booster, even though they maybe outliers.

I'm starting to think I just have really bad test anxiety, but I don't want to chalk it up to that just yet. My frustration has led me to try and control other aspects of my life with the hope that it would give me some edge during PTs. For example, I've picked up meditation, I've started going to the gym regularly, and I've completely cut out alcohol from my diet. I'm not sure if these changes have helped, as I've been unable to discern any drastic changes in my score since I've implemented them.I'm struggling to not succumb to feeling so defeated, but it's really hard not to.

With that said, I'm determined to not give up. I've invested waaaay too much time. I just feel rather desperate right now and need some advice. My BR score does give me hope that I'm understanding the material, for the most part. I just don't know what the fuck is happening during my PTs. Does anyone else have similar struggles?

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If I start the Starter course now, is it enough for the September LSAT for me to get an score of 160+?

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Anyone who's been on this forum for more than a couple weeks probably realizes that this is a complex and controversial topic. While I value a wide variety of opinions, I'm particularly keen to hear from persons who have taken the LSAT multiple times. Hopefully, those with similar quandaries to my own can also benefit from this thread.

I'm currently slated to write the test in June, and though I'm pleased with the progress I've made so far, I'm fairly confident that I have some wrinkles to iron out before I'd be scoring in my preferred range (170+). My current average is in the 165-168 range. In addition to taking the June test, for the past couple months I've planned on retaking the test in September. I have a flexible job that works around my studying, and I sincerely enjoy the project, so an additional 2 months of prep isn't a con.

That being said, here's my question: what are your recommendations as far as canceling my June test and only taking September versus taking both tests? Weighing in my mind are a couple questions: should I be walking into the test if I'm less than confident that I will earn satisfactory score (I know for many this goes against 7Sage orthodoxy); would taking the June test help to calm nerves in September by providing a sense of familiarity with the experience; would knowing that I have a retake planned help to alleviate some pressure during the June test and, theoretically, help me stay composed?

Though I don't want to put anyone on the spot, I understand that @LSATcantwin , @"Cant Get Right" , @"Seeking Perfection" , & @Alex might have some experience in this area? Any insights you might offer would be greatly appreciated!

Is there any good ones out there? I have access to the admissions stuff but it would be helpful if I knew exactly what it should look like as a whole... thanks!

I transferred after getting my associates. Should it be on there?

Hi everyone,

I just finished MSS question sets, and am constantly missing 2~3 questions. I'm actually amazed at my stupidity.

Should I redo MSS or should I just continue?

Also, is it better to finish each section and go on to the next one? or should I stick with the schedule? I've read some other people's postings and many seem to finish LG first to get it out of the way.

I'd really appreciate any advice! Thank you!

I haven't seen anyone mention Honest Meditation here, so my apologies if this has already been recommended. As someone with too much anxiety mixed with ADHD, I never found the usual meditation videos and apps that helpful. I get bored way too easily and I have trouble being alone with my thoughts. As a result, I either spiral into a bottomless abyss of anxiety or fall asleep from lack of interest.

Enter, Honest Meditation.

I don't know what it is about cursing, but it's such a freeing feeling to have someone calmly acknowledge all the bullshit swimming in my head as soothing music plays softly in the background. I think the swearing keeps my brain engaged. Check it out y'all:

He also has an app, but it ain't free: https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1059195733

And for all the Android folks: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jasonheadley.hnestmeditation

So I'll be finished with CC and taking my first real PT on June 4th. From June 4th to July 23rd I should be able to get in 2 PT's a week (14 PT's total) with drilling in each section (mainly LR and LG) throughout the weeks. I plan on doing one PT on a Monday and the other on like a Friday/Saturday so I can drill in the days between. I'm hoping this is a good strategy, my first cold-PT put me at about 151/152, and my target goal is at least a 160. Any advice?

I only finished all the curriculum, and just half way through full-proofing games.

( this is partly because i planned to take another one in October, but because of some issues this June test might be my only attempt, so i am kinda running out of time )

what should my study schedule look like now?

any insight is greatly appreciated :)) thanks!

I want to make sure I'm not missing out on any valuable tips, tricks, etc. Besides following the study guide and using the videos to ensure I "get it," are there any features of 7sage that you use that maybe I or others are unaware of?

For example, in a recent question I posted re: timing yourself, someone mentioned using the 7sage app's test proctor feature. I had no idea this existed and I expect it will be quite helpful when I'm taking regular PTs.

Is there anything else I may be missing out on?

hi there! I've only taken the diagnostic at this point, so the only timing I did was to set an alarm for the amount of time each section allows. I'm noticing lots of people are timing themselves for each individual question - how are you doing that - stopwatch? I'm assuming you're doing so in order to determine which area(s) you need to improve speed but if there's another reason, could you please share what that is?

thanks :)

(sigh) I know it was for the best because I'm still struggling and still learning. It just sucks that I miss yet another test. I mean, come on, brain, work already.

Rant over.

I did my first PT after finishing the core curriculum yesterday. I was pleased to score a 169 (-12) which is much improved from my original diagnostic- 157.

It's really encouraging to see that going through the CC has really paid off (especially after a shitty week of RC). I'm aiming to break 170 in June, so I feel like this is within reach now.

What's a little less encouraging is that my BR was... also a 169 (but -11). I'm primarily concerned with the 5 LR/RC questions I didn't even circle or think I struggled with but ended up getting wrong. Does anyone have any advice for closing this gap? I've been through JY's BR lessons but I just wanted to see if anyone has personal experience/tips for overcoming this. At least 3 of these questions were due to misreading the passage or part of the question, so after JY's explanations I understood the correct answer. I just want to get to the point where I can eliminate errors like this.

Real quick context. I started studying in December, I was gonna take LSAT in June, then November. Now I've decided I'm just going to take it in 2019, so I can get a full year and more to really get the score I want which is 170+.

So realistically, just wanna know from you guys what my chances of T14 are.

I'm an under represented minority (Cuban exile). Undergrad GPA is 3.56. I'm currently getting MFA at University of Michigan, that GPA will be 3.9 (I know they don't care about that too much). I have a lot of work experience since I worked full time during college as an EMT and various other jobs to pay for school, while doing school full time, so resume should be decent.

So if I do get my target score, 170. What are my chances at T14, realistically?

I know my GPA falls in the 25th Percentile, which is why I'm wondering if I gotta hit the median LSAT or the school's 75th percentile LSAT to really have a chance.

Are takes essentially unlimited now in the sense your highest score matters? Some people have been questioning this, and I was one of those people. However, schools incentives are too look at the highest score. And since this is a test that one can get better at and also since someone's score is really a range, it seems that it would just make sense for them to take the highest score and move on. Thoughts?

Hello everyone!

I wrote the June 2017 exam and scored much lower than my average PT result, and after not getting into my first choice school I've decided to retake when I'm ready to score in a higher range. I'll definitely be following the core curriculum and study plan 100% when I get back from a vacation I have planned, but I was just wondering if anyone who's retaken the LSAT over a year later has any tips on getting back into the zone here?

Thanks so much for any answers, and happy studying!