Hey y'all :) I have two quick questions for those of you who, preferably, have bidden farewell to the LSAT after beasting out recently.

First of all, I used to be super impatient with having to wait until thorough BR was over years ago when I was studying for this test. So as much as I wanted to brainwash myself that I was BRing, as soon as I finished a PT, I rushed to the last page and started checking answers. Looking back, I know I shot myself in the foot. (I ended up not taking the LSAT that year. Smart choice.)

Years have passed since then. I started studying a couple of months ago and this time things have changed. I AM TAKING IT REALLY SLOW WHEN IT COMES TO PTs. So I'd do a timed LR or RC section(with a scantron!) and sometimes I check my answers a day or EVEN TWO DAYS LATER. In between, I am writing down how I separated conclusions and premises, any assumptions/patterns/trap answer choices I have noticed that repeatedly occur on the test, which answer choices particularly confused me and WHY I fell for the trap answer choices and HOW I would counter differently if I were to do it again etc. Only then, do I check the answers. Yes, I do this for almost every question except for super obvious MP questions or questions that I was 100% confident with that it took me 10 seconds to finish. As you know very well, this entire process even for a single LR or RC section really takes a long time. Half a day is the minimum on a single timed section. The thing is sometimes I feel as though I'm too comfortable with the waiting process. Is taking a day or two between timed sections laudable or am I taking it too slowly? Granted, taking a long time BRing doesn't always necessarily lead to awesome results but what do you think, Mr./Ms. Gurus?

Second question is shorter: my performance on a few timed LR sections in the late 20s and the 30s onwards have been -5 to -3. BR scores have hit -2 at best(for instance on PT 30). This makes me feel really great. But at the same time I am working on PT 1 to 10 and it gives me a heart attack to see the results: timed scores are -8 to even -15 on a SINGLE LR section(PT 5 to be exact) and BR scores aren't really different from timed scores. I feel as though I'm preparing for a different test when it comes to pre-PT 10s. Are LR sections in the 60s and 70s much more similar to the 30s on which I have been performing well? How much weight would you give to these crappy results from LR sections from the early 1990s? The crazy thing of all is that when I'm going through questions timed, I feel the same. And then the results: bam. -15 and -3 confuse the heck outta me.

Am I on the right path?

Does anyone else have this problem? When I do a section or a problem timed I get completely flustered because my mind is constantly under pressure and wondering if I'm taking too long. The second I decide to do the same section untimed, I notice I do the questions faster and get them all right. I'm sure others have encountered this. What did you do to get past the time stress?

How have those who have gone for local questions first in Logic Games found that strategy? I am about to try it out, however, I feel like the act of looking for them might cause a scattered feeling which might have a negative affect. And do you think the time it takes to hunt the local questions is worth it?

I tried registering for June 2018 LSAT and I live in Toronto. I have my mind set for June but I guess I am already too late (maybe the test center filled up already?) I was hoping to go to UofT for the test :( Now, I have to wait until September again and register early! I guess this is a good thing as I get to review more but I’m a little bit disappointed..

Sorry, guys. Thought I’d say it here. Maybe someone has the same thing as me? Any torontonians there? -P.

When I'm taking the official LSAT, am I allowed to hold up the test when I take it or do I have to keep it down flat on my desktop?

This is mainly for RC.

I'm a much more active reader when I hold my test up and read facing forward than when I have my test flat on the desk and read facing down. This might also be due to my poor vision.

Just want to make sure I'm developing proper testing habits.

Thanks in advance!

So I took a PT last Monday, after over a month of resumed studying.

Actual score: 139 (highest PT was 138) BR: 159 (Highest BR was 154).

Any suggestions on how I might close that gap?

Thanks.

Hi, everyone!

Is anyone willing to read through and provide feedback on my Statement and Supplement for my applications this fall? I'm happy to do the same for you! I can share via Google Docs.

Thanks,

Storm

Here we go again:

Thanksgiving

Christmas

New Years

& now Passover/Easter.

Thank you once again for ruining more weekends & holidays. In less than 6 months, I've had more anxiety and less patience than anything else through out my existence.

Hi everyone!

I started by LSAT journey about 1 year ago. Before I had even heard of 7Sage, I took a PT and scored a 159. Then I did some studying with some other materials on-off for a few months. Because I work a full-time job and because I am not particularly good at managing my time, I was very inconsistent with my studying.

I came across 7Sage last summer and decided to sign up. I slowly made my way through the curriculum over the next 7 months (again, I wasn't super consistent, but I always did my best to get back on track).

Yesterday, I took my first PT after finishing the curriculum. 172 (178 BR).

The lessons and materials on 7Sage are superb and really helped me get to this point. I'm feeling really good about practicing more and improving before I take the LSAT in June.

For everyone starting out, don't try to rush the process. If you have a lot going on in your life (full time job, kids, fighting crime), don't feel bad about taking a little longer to get ready for this test. I'm really happy that I didn't rush into taking the LSAT last year. I've been studying on and off for over a year now, and I feel really good about the position I'm in.

hi guys, ive been studying for the LSATs since Feb 1st. Ive been taking a course along with the 7sage course. I took a diagnostic test the very first day of my LSAT class and scored a 126 (no knowledge of anything).

After studying a good amount of the basics, I scored a 142 two weeks after my first exam.

i’ve continued to take the course and have been referring back to 7sage when I have had a hard time understanding in-class course material.

My third practice test, i scored a 143. my fourth one scored a 144. and my fifth one today (3rd month of studying) I scored a 145.

ive been getting 7-8 wrong on RC and LG for each PT (which I am fine with at the moment) for each practice exam, but I can’t seem to get more than 20 right on the LR portion. Since my second practice test, I have gone back through all my course material, bought the LR bible and gone through the whole thing, and have made notes in a seperate notebook on all the problems I had a hard time solving/problems I got a mistake on.

i go through every answer choice and write down why a specific answer choice is wrong/right and why I chose the answer choice I chose.

Ive graduated college so all my focus is on the LSAT and i have been spending 30-40 hours a week.

I have seen no improvement in my score at all.

I’m starting to think that the LSAT is not for me and becoming very discouraged. Everyone else in my LSAT course has taken the same amount of courses as I have and are sill students/ working a full time job and soending significantly less time studying than i have. and they have been scoring a 162+ without hesitation.

Any recommendations on studying/improving my score?

there isn’t really a ‘specific portion’ of the LR that im struggling with. sometimes i would get a bunch of flaw quesions wrong, and sometimes I won’t. It seems to be all over the place. If I was getting a specific aet of questions on the LR wrong, it would give me an idea of where i would need to improve but I have nothing to base it off of.

I began studying for the LSAT shortly after I graduated from undergrad, about 5 years ago. I scored a 145 diagnostic. Since then I've taken the test 3 times officially, and my scores are 160, 160, 161. I haven't been studying intently the entire 5 years, I'll go for a few months of intense studying and then I'll take a few months break, etc. This is my "make or break" year to apply as I can't continue in this cycle anymore, and I am feeling sick and stressed already. My goal is 170+ so I can get into a T14 law school with my not so stellar 3.3 GPA in Poli Sci/Psych.

I am beginning to feel that my dream of attending a T14 law school is slipping, and it's depressing. I'll take diagnostic preptests that I've taken 2-3 times before and score 165-168 on them, though I know those numbers are inflated because at some point I probably encountered the question, even if I don't remember the exact answer.

I guess my questions are 1) Now that LSAC has lifted the 3 tests every 2 year requirement, is the fact Ill have 3-5 test scores on file going to diminish my chances? 2) At what point do I throw in the towel and say I've reached my maximum potential on this test? I work full-time, study about 3 hours a night on weekends and 6-8 hours a day on weekends and my personal life is taking a hit and I'm not getting any younger.

I've been told I could apply to a lower ranked school and likely get in with a scholarship, but I have high standards for myself. Does anyone have any tips for me? I'm not the type to give up, but I've never felt so discouraged in my life, and this test has been a chip on my shoulder for 5 years, and the weight is starting to take its toll on me.

Just wanted to say this because my boyfriend is sick of listening to me talk about the LSAT.

I took a practice test two weeks ago and literally cried in the library. It was pretty much the worst thing in the world. But then, I took a PT today at 45 minutes per section. I did this to give myself the chance to actually get through the test. And then it happened.

I tackled a LR, logic heavy question 18 or something like that. I smiled in the middle of the test because I ACTUALLY DIDN'T FREAK OUT! I answered the question confidently because I spent the last two weeks BR'ing drilling. I don't know if I got the question right but I'm just happy that I attempted the question!

That's the breakthrough moment and it feels sooo good. So believe me, it feels like the end of the world now but just wait till you kill the LSAT on game day.

Has anyone successfully figured out how to do so? I've only been half successful at this. I read somewhere that there was a way to do so. Am I even allowed to do this?

I was recently spoke with my 3L friend and he told how skills tested by the Logic Games carry over to law school. He said that law is really a measure of how good you are at puzzles. Can you take a piece of information (the rule), like a puzzle piece, and create a whole picture(your argument) with it in a way that's logical? Have you guys heard something similar in your conversations with law students? Its cool to see that LG, a section that seems so bizarre and unnecessary, is actually very relevant to law school success.

Hi everyone,

I am aiming for the June LSAT and am already underway in my LSAT studies. After seeing previous discussions on how useful the Ultimate+ is, I am torn as I feel time is limited at this point. If I purchase the ultimate+, and say I have already practiced curriculum suggested for the first two weeks, would any of you recommend starting from week 3 and carry on this way?

I am definitely a rookie, so I appreciate everyone's suggestions/feedback!

I've gone through a lot of the CC, but there's a lot that I've skipped. I'm not -0 in any sections, but I understand the main concepts and am in more need of the hands on practice. For instance, I've skipped a lot of the videos about setting up logic games. I understand the basic concepts behind setting them up, it's just not 100% intuitive yet. I still mess up a ton, and I'm still fool proofing the early tests. At this point, do you think it's appropriate to keep fool proofing and doing blind reviews, or should I ensure that I throughly go through the parts of the CC that I haven't already? I'm taking the June LSAT.

With no time constraints or with BR, I'm

-4/5 RC

-1/2 LG

-3 LR

-3 LR

When did you switch from CC to pure PT and BR?

Anyone else find that the best way for them to improve RC was to actually just read more?

What books are you currently reading and what do you like about it?

Currently reading Pimp by Iceberg Slim...book was featured by Dave Chappelle in case it seems like an odd choice.

Hoping to find out about more fun reads

Hey Guys,

Would really love some feedback on my predicament at the moment.

I've been studying for the LSAT for about a year, and took the February 2018 exam. After PT'ing in the low-mid 160's I was stuck with a 157..... (bombed LG... my best section).

Fortunately for me I'm a URM with a good gpa, and was accepted at GW with some money (waitlisted at Emory and WUSTL), however I feel I'm leaving points on the table, and the chance to attend a better school..

If I were to retake I would yet again have to delay law school by another year. Anybody have any advice to give on my situation? Would really appreciate it.

I was wondering if anyone time their LG problem sets right from the start. I have encountered a problem with In-Out games. I cant seem to get any inference, or I am making too much that it eats away the time. I have been timing myself with every problem through the course just to get a baseline of how long I do these problems. averaging about 10-12 mins which is pretty long. Although I do make sure to check the other answer choices even if I circled the correct one. I am just getting really discouraged.

The way JY teaches LG is to make the inferences up-front to save time answering questions. I used to just brute force my way in each question ( I know thats not a smart thing to do). So I am changing the way I approach the problem.

My question is, I know JY has a "Fool-Proof technique" video for LG mastery. Has anyone tried this and gotten big improvements? What were your techniques? Do you do the inferences per rule? or Do you read all the rule then start the inferences? Its just that, time-wise I know memorizing inferences for a specific game would reduce it after n-th time of doing the same game. But is this assuming that LSAT will make the same game format and thus, it would feel like "Ive seen this before " therefore "Ill make the same inferences (slightly tweaked) as JY did?

When going through the LG portion of the CC,

should I still do LR and RC? If so, which materials should I use?

Any thoughts?

I'm in at UChicago and I couldn't be happier. Thank you so much to 7Sage, both to the curriculum that helped me do well on the LSAT and the AMAZING community that has given me advice, helped me through struggles, and generally kept me sane through this whole process.

:smile: Thank you all!

Like most of us, my applications are all submitted and complete or under review. I have maybe 2-3 schools that I am still waiting on and would definitely go to. Is it too late to send a "Why X" essay? Not sure how these are done. Is it weird to send one when you app is possibly in the middle of being reviewed? Is it bad? If I do send one, I'll be emailing it in. I'm really nervous about this cycle. I don't have the best numbers and just got rejected at UVA. It wasn't my top choice by any means but I am desperate right now and lots of my apps are still pending.

What is this flaw called:

"Takes for granted that a hypothesis has not proven to be true is proof that it is false"

Is there a name for this?

Hello 7sage

I'm writing to try and get a better study schedule going. I'm in post core-curriculum now and I tried setting up a schedule were I'd do a PT every fourth day, but that didnt work because I found myself taking up a lot more time to study my weaknesses. Also I'm currently trying to foolproof the LG's from 1-35 and am having trouble trying to figure out how many times a week I should be doing that versus taking PT's versus studying my weaknesses. Essentially, juggling everything has turned out to be a day by day thing where I have a vague idea of what I'll be working on that day.

A little background. I am currently in grad school, but I actually have a lot of time on my hands. I am only taking two classes on Mondays, so the rest of the week, is pretty much for studying. I'm also currently not working so that helps. I am taking the November LSAT, so I have a little less than 8 months to study. I have been studying since December. So far, I've been averaging 8-5 wrong on LR, 11-5 wrong on RC, and LG, like I said I've just been foolproofing.

I've found that I can study for 5 days a week before mentally burning out. I realize that when I try to study and it feels almost impossible to focus. This is one of those days where I'm feeling mentally blocked so that's why I wanted to reach out to you guys.

So, basically, I'm just trying to find an efficient study schedule I can stick to because I have the time and dedication, I just need to be more organized. Any advise from the kinds of study schedules that has helped you guys, or what you guys recommend would be great.

You guys are awesome,

L

I'm scheduled to take the June test right now... 10 days after the school year lets out. (I'm a teacher).

I've only been studying for about a month now. My goal is a 170, and right now I'm inconsistently hitting the high 160s with my initial diagnostic in the 150s. I have 10 weeks and 5 days left, and I have a schedule to study 6 days a week.

I thought I had a conflict with the July test, but it turns out I don't. Should I pay the 100 dollar rescheduling fee and take the extra 5 weeks of studying? Those five weeks I'll be out of work too. So in reality, I'd probably be doubling the amount of study time I have left.

What do y'all think?