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Why is the text so small all of a sudden? I went to print 77 and the text is really small. It wasn't like this when I was printing earlier. Is any one else having these issues? Also, I am in chrome fwiw.

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This is true for me in LR/RC sections. As soon as J.Y. gives me the five minute warning on my phone two things are guaranteed to happen.

1.) I jump....every. damn. time.

2.) I start to get a brief moment of panic and all the reading I am doing goes out the window. I have to stop, compose myself, and resume.

How can I not let it cause panic in me?

It's not that I am running out of time, I usually finish every section on time, I just don't like to feel rushed.

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Proctors: One main proctor and several law students volunteering on stand-by.

Facilities: Pretty good, bathrooms were plentiful and nearby. Good lighting, sturdy seats, and wide tables.

What kind of room: Classroom.

How many in the room: 30-40

Desks: Lab-style desks in that the tables were long tables. People sat in every other chair.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes, since they're lab-style desks.

Noise levels: A bit above average - no construction noises, but tons of shuffling papers, people coming in and out to use the restroom (quite often, actually), and proctors continuously whispering to each other. Unfortunately sat by the door, so was surprised how many people used the restroom during the test.

Parking: Accessible and abundant parking available all around the building - free of charge.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30-45 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: The main proctor was not very pleasant and would not allow me to keep my Casio analog watches on the table to keep time so I awkwardly wore them all on my wrist. I also wasn't allowed to take a sip of my water right before the exams were handed out/directions read and not sure if that's normal.

Would you take the test here again?: It's not my first choice.

Date of Exam: June 2017

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OMG THIS EXAM.

Okay yes, I get it, it's learnable. But holy shit is there so much to learn. It's like every time you understand something, you realize how much MORE THIS IS TO FREAKING UNDERSTAND. A 170 is possible for anyone...it's just the number of layers you're willing to peel back to get that score....and the months of your life you're willing to commit.

Like I hate it. But I love it because it's addicting. And I'm possibly going insane after the study-marathon I seem to be on.

Okay that's it.

Happy Wednesday :)

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Hello! I have been studying for the LSAT using 7sage for 1 month now, and I'm struggling to study efficiently. It's been personally difficult for me to watch videos, takes notes, and absorb the rules all at the same time. I wanted to get advice from others on their daily routines, how they approach tackling every section.

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In the 7Sage version of PT33 and in the Logic Games Bundle,

PT33.S4.Q14 (LG) says:

"most be true"

http://imgur.com/yPG9YaW

I paused for like three seconds figuring out what it means before realizing that this is a typo.

I think I found another one the other day, but I can't remember which PT it was from.

So please let me know if you find any typos so that @"7Sage Admin" can fix someday...

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I took the June 2007 diagnostic last week and got a 167 on my first attempt. Which PT should I start with if I want to be ready for the September/December LSAT??

Is it better to start with the latest PTs? Any advice would be appreciated!!

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So I just sat PT 36 and got 167 - I'm stoked! My plan is to review every question I got wrong, re-do the logic games several times and then take a new PT. What else should I be doing in terms of reviewing and cementing material? I've got until September 17 and want to try and boost/ cement this scoring ability as much as possible.

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Proctors: There were a bunch of proctors - maybe four? Only one woman read the instructions, the others just helped with passing out and collecting papers. I didn't notice any noise from them, but the woman keeping time gave the 5-minute warning early on one section, which really threw me off. She corrected it by giving a second 5-minute warning at the correct time, but it really made me freak out a bit since I thought my watch wasn't working properly and I was going to be screwed up for the rest of the test.

Facilities: Facilities were fine. Bathrooms were close enough, there was a water fountain nearby, the room wasn't too hot (although it was a bit chilly, it was perfect for me).

What kind of room: Lecture hall with auditorium seating.

How many in the room: 50-100

Desks: Flip-up tablet desks!!!! Seriously, these were so horrible! There wasn't even enough room to have the test booklet spread open, much less the test book and the answer sheet side-by-side.

Left-handed accommodation: There were left-handed desks available, and the proctors asked if you needed one as you entered.

**Noise levels:**Very quiet.

Parking: Parking was across the street at the closest.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30-45 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: As I mentioned above, the proctor gave the 5-minute warning early for one of the first sections.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely not. The tablet desks were crazy uncomfortable and I was super cramped. I feel sure that lowered my score, which ended up being -7 from my PT average. I really don't understand why any location would think that tablet desks are an acceptable way to hold the test, they're so insufficient!

Date of Exam: February 2017

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Hi Everyone,

This is my first time posting to the discussion board, but I have been following the CC and everyone's comments closely for a few months now. I really love this community! Thought I would reach out for some advice- I really need it.

I just took PT 36 last Saturday and scored a 168. My diagnostic before I went through the CC was a 157. Given that we have 6ish weeks left until the September test, how many PTs do you all recommend I take a week?

Also, I am retaking the exam (158 December 2016 score), so I have taken some PTs in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. Specifically, I know I have taken PT 72-78 already. I estimated I can do around 13-14 PTs in the coming weeks, and I am thinking maybe I should do 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, and 79. What do you all think? I can also redo sections in 72-78, but I don't know how much I will remember, so I am wary of taking them under testing conditions again.

Finally, I read that the later exams can be more difficult than the earlier ones. I think I remember noticing that last year to some extent. So, I do realize that this 168 score should be taken with a grain of salt, right? I am nervous to take 60 (for example), and not get the results I want (September is right around the corner!). But I guess I'm rambling at this point- nothing to do but find out!

Just need to get a grip on what PTs/how many would be best for maximum results! Also, how many days do you all take to practice concepts/shore up your weaknesses? Need to get into the PT/BR/Practice swing of things as efficiently as possible.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you everyone!

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Hey 7Sagers!

I saw a couple posts that were similar to this topic, but those threads were mainly very old or distinct in their question. As such, I wanted to pose a question that I'm sure many in the community are facing during PTs.

What are some of the potential causes that would result in varied PT scores?

I'm sure everyone is experiencing different results, but in my case, I'm talking about 8 PT scores that create two very distinct averages. For me, half my PTs suggest I'm currently performing at ~163 and the other half consistently have me at a ~157. To clarify, these scores were intermingled, meaning it's not a steady increase from 157 to a 163, but rather spikes and drops going between the two. Furthermore, I've thoroughly reviewed both the question types and sections for each test and there doesn't seem to be any consistency in the points I've missed.

But back to my larger question, if our studying methods haven't changed, what fundamental errors could cause those preparing for the LSAT to have an inconsistent score and how can we address these?

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I'd like to really hammer down and improve my RC score. What are the best things to read to improve RC score? My problem is reading speed/comprehension and just a general lack of reading. I have the LSAT Trainer on the way so hoping that'll help as well. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi Gang, I have tried to message several people on the forum through the inbox - depending on the type of questions I have, yet no one responds! I'm not sure if I have a tainted profile or what ... but I have a few questions, so I might as well ask here!

Is it worth it to buy a perfect score watch? Why does J.Y. recommend to use an analog watch with rotating bezel? I also read some posts about "hacking" a regular analog watch with permanent markers? Is this feasible? Would LSAC allow this?

You guys are all such masters of LSAT! I hope you can offer some advice to me :-)

Thanks!

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Hi all,

I've been stuck between 168- 171 on my practice tests. It does not matter if I do them timed or untimed, I've been stuck at this level for 1 year, despite my best efforts of taking the PowerScore advanced LR course, drilling, taking 30 exams or so with blind review, doing explanations of questions myself, etc. I am planning on taking the exam in September and would like to give myself a +/- 3 cushion, so achieving a 173 consistently prior to test day is my goal. Any suggestions on how to improve?

I am missing usually 3-4 on each LR, 2 on RC, and 1 on LG.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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I was looking at the wrong column when transferring my answers from my hard copy to the computer and now my test score is artificially low... Is there a way to edit the information I uploaded? Or can I delete the prep test and re-enter the information again? It's throwing off my analytics/trends :(

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Hey all,

About 3 weeks I was at the point of exhaustion with my LSAT prep so I took a big, huge 10 day break some basically all things LSAT. I reviewed some LR questions most days or did a few games, but I wasn't REALLY prepping for the test. I started prep in December 2016 very heavy on games, learned the basics of LR during the spring semester and the night my semester ended, I hit the CC.

At the time of my break, I was a bet for -2/-3 on each LR, -1 or -2 on games and an atrocious RC of -9/-10...all in all about a 167 give or take. After the break, my pt's have been about -4 for each LR, -2 for games (although yesterday I bombed games in pt 67 with a -5...and even more atrocious -11/-12 in RC. This leaves me at a 162-164...depending on the test.

Has this happened to anyone else? How did you get back to your earlier form?

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Hi I am having some issues with chaining double arrows/double not arrows.

I know that:

A--> B (--|--) C = A (--|--) C

A (--|--) B --> C= A (--|--) C

A--> B (----) C = A (----) C

A (----) B --> C = A (----) C

But I am unsure about:

A (----) B (-----) C

A (----) B (--|--) C

A (--|--) B (--|--) C

Could somebody help clarify this?

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Hi 7Sagers, I previously prepared using Manhattan's prep course, then found 7sage, watched all the LG videos which were very helpful and stood out from other prep courses. Now wondering how much 7sage's lessons on LR and RC differ from Manhattan, will I learn anything new or different/helpful in terms of breaking down the arguments and zeroing in on answer choices? Manhattan had a pretty solid system. if anyone has used manhattan and can offer their feedback I'd especially appreciate it. Also might not be able to purchase the ultimate package.. will something basic like the starter pack help me improve on LR and RC or is it only the ultimate package that provides comprehensive training on LR

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Hi everyone,

I hope everyone had a great weekend. I wanted to post to get some advice from all of you, especially those who have managed studying and working full-time at the same time.

To give a little background, I currently work at a job that I've been at for a little more than a year. Unfortunately, I work in consulting and my hours are not always necessarily the typical 9-5PM. There are times when I get out at 7-8. On really bad days, I get out even later (although this hasn't happened recently). At this time, I'm not sure quitting my job to study is an option because financially, that may not be feasible. I am planning on taking the September LSAT (my third try) and I'm feeling completely overwhelmed. I'm trying my best to maintain both studying and work, but it's hard to put full effort into either. I've been getting a lot of crap from my bosses about how I haven't been communicative enough or proactive enough. At the same time, my scores don't seem to be improving too much (in fact, they seem to be going down). I was scoring in the 170s before the June test, but now my scores are back down to the 167-169 range.. Ideally, I'd REALLY like to take the September test just because I'm planning on applying this year and because the LSAT has already taken up so much of my time.

For those who have gone through this before (and for anyone else who's been overwhelmed by this test), how do you handle this? Any advice on how I should approach this or anything from your own experiences you think would help?

Thanks all for reading this long message!!

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So, I joined 7sage May 24, 2017. As of today, I have completed all 91 hours of the course. Do I jump into taking a timed test? Or, do I just take a test - no timer- and see where I am on questions?

Any advice would be appreciated! & I would be grateful! :)

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So I'm approaching an interesting quandary in my studies. I tested in June and got a 170, which I'm happy, but not content with. Reason being I hit 162 with my blind diagnostic in March and my study mainly consisted of PT, l look over my incorrect answers and compare to the correct choices. Admittedly I was a little lazy and mostly rode my knack for the material.

I'm planning to retake in September and have begun studying the right way. I'm going through CC now, then planning to begin Pts with proper, exhaustive BR.

However, going through the curriculum on grammar, subvocalization, etc, I'm worried that I may drown my natural ability in a sea of technique and strategy. I can visualize an eventuality where I approach a RC passage an analyze it's structure, perspective and grammar flawlessly, break down the prompt and ACs effortlessly, but fail to achieve the only thing that matters, correct answers.

Admittedly this is all hypothetical, and as yet unmanifested, but I thought it would make for an interesting discussion. Curious to hear from others who have experienced this, or testimonials proving my worries premature.

Spin-off: The idea of a course designed for naturally gifted LSATers. Maybe geared toward boosting scores from 165 to 175, leaving out some of the more basic breakdown. Not sure if that would be counterproductive, perhaps you truly need to build a base knowledge before attacking the curve-breaker questions, but an interesting idea nonetheless.

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