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Hi All! I joined 7sage about a month ago and am currently near 40% through the CC of the starter pack. I'm taking it in December for the second time after taking a Testmasters course for the June exam (cancelled score because got nervous). I feel like i'm understanding everything so much better already, but I'm afraid I won't have enough time for real practice tests after I finish it all since the exam is coming up soon. I remember timing was an issue for me. What should I list as my "end" date for my study schedule? I can only study max 3-4 hrs a day since I work full-time unfortunately.

Thank you!!

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Last comment friday, oct 13 2017

Still waiting on score

Apparently if you start a fee waiver application it puts your account on hold until you finish it which means that you don't get your score until it is resolved. I got the hold removed today around 2pm PST, is it possible my score comes in today by 5? Or am I going to get it tomorrow?

I feel like the guy who came to the party-before-Armageddon on the day after.

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Last comment friday, oct 13 2017

to retake our not?

I got a 167 on the september test, and I am happy with it but i was hoping for a 170+

Cornell is my dream school, so i was hoping to get peoples' opinions here and see if i should take one more shot at the test?

hope everyone who took the test performed as they wished!!

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I started 7sage back in September 2016, with the intention to take the September 2017 LSAT (which I pushed back to December). After doing the core, and doing five prep tests, I have yet to score above 150, which I've achieved twice. My average is 147.8.

After PT 39, I have felt defeated and crushed. It's not the worst I have ever done, but it's also a dip back down to my starting point. I feel like I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what it is. As I can only dedicate 15 to 20 hours a week to studying for this test (which is mostly done at night when I'm burned out from work), my time is precious.

My process for the last five prep tests has been as follows - take the test, blind review the test, and then do a comprehensive review of each section of the test. Why the right answers are right. Why the wrong answers are wrong. Why I picked the wrong answers when I did. Drill the games. Drill the reading comp. This has been the advice of multiple people, and I don't feel like I've gotten the gains I'm supposed to. In fact, I feel as though I haven't gained anything.

Doing what I'm doing now isn't working, so there must be something I'm missing. I feel as though my worst section is logic games, but it's only edging out slightly compared to every other section. Should I just focus on drilling? Do I need to just dedicate my hours of studying to just logical reasoning until I'm answering 20 in 20 correctly? Alternatively, is this just a problem with the older tests being a lot harder than the newer ones?

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Last comment friday, oct 13 2017

Guys.....my friends....my people

First things first....Hello. I've had this account for some while now, and upon the great debacle that took place during my first go around back in September I decided to see if there's anybody out there that can point me in the direction of sanity.

Leading up to the September Lsat, I self studied for four months, five days a week, at about 6 hours per day. Not really having any concrete approach to go off of I figured that this would be the proper approach. Using the powerscore literature and just about every prep-test, I had averaged in the lower 160s and had convinced myself that the method of studying I chose was producing the wanted outcome.

I scored 142, in September.

While I can't completely explain what happened, I do believe that time management could be part of the issue for me.....outside of that I'm not too sure where to go from here, and I'm looking for some guidance. I can't really afford the effective courses, and what I can afford may not be enough....with that being said my GoFundMe is...kidding.

Somebody help me push the restart button before December gets here.

Thanks

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Last comment friday, oct 13 2017

Former 7 Sager checking in

Good evening all,

A year ago, I was just like all of you, preparing to take what I thought was the biggest test of my life. Well I'm on the other side now at the University of Chicago and I have to say, it is all worth it.

Once you get to law school, you'll begin to feel the rewards for your effort and it is one of the greatest feelings ever. There will certainly be challenges. For instance, I love the material I am learning but I question how some of my classmates got into this school, on daily basis. With that said, I would not trade this away for anything in the world. Because of what I learned through 7sage and other materials, I get to live my dream. Remember, take your time and do the work because you will be glad you did later.

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It seems that after each LSAT exam, companies like Powerscore and others recap the exam, and discuss the amount and difficulty of questions. Is this helpful to us? IE, does the degree of difficulty of one exam predict the degree of difficulty of the following exam?

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Hi all,

I am in a bit of a quandary: I had a ugrad gpa of 3.84 from a top 30 undergrad (graduated with many national honors), currently am working full time and doing my MEd in ed policy and leadership (grad gpa 3.9), on the board of a local non-profit and other strong soft markers, but my lsat was 158, aka WAY LOWER than reflects my ability but was where I was testing during practice. I have never been good at non-subject based standardized tests so I know it doesn't reflect my inherent academic aptitude. I don't have the time in my schedule to take it again so I really just don't know where to move forward. I think I'm just going to apply to my school list anyway and hope for the value of a holistic review. Anybody know of any success of people in similar positions?

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Feel gutted by the test. It was such a weird mix.

I went perfect on LG -0

I did horrible on LR -8/-5

I did horrible on RC -7

My lowest PT in the 3 months prior to the Sept test was a 163. My highest was a 174.

So here I am. 163 and feeling pretty beat down. Since I'm a splitter obviously I'm not getting into the schools I had hoped for. (2.7 GPA)

I also have a ton of pressure on me so I have to apply this cycle, just not many ways around it...so idk what to do...retake in December and pray? Apply with this score now and pray? Lower my standards considerably?

This test sucks some times

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Hi there! So I just took the September test and received my score which ended up being even lower than all my PTs. I self-studied with the powerscore books and took dozens of PTs, felt pretty prepared. I also studied with 7sage's free video explanations which helped A LOT! I'm thinking I just need to dig a little deeper. Looking to up my score 6-8 points. I'm looking towards the starter because it's cheaper and I can actually afford that, unlike the others. Would I be fine doing the Starter or should I just look somewhere else at another course?

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If you have the admissions program for 7sage then you are going to recognize the name Anna Ivey, or at least the book Ivey's guide to Law School Admissions. I was curious as to how a real admissions officer took every part of our applications into consideration and if they could, what honest advice they would have. Anna Ivey is a former admissions officer for University of Chicago Law School (i believe), and when she left to create her own admissions company, she wrote a books giving advice students want when talking to councilors. She talked about everything from what to say about low gpas, and some nuances as far as supplemental statements go, what types of personal statements tend to catch admission officers eyes and talked about the nuances (like making sure you spell resume properly aka résumé). Those things she said really mattered when they make decisions between certain candidates and would matter to schools who don't do interviews like U of Chicago do to get to know the applicants. I HIGHLY suggest reading it because I found it to be incredibly helpful and made me look back over my own résumé (one my career advisor said was good) because it had mistakes in terms of set up and what I didn't use it to do which was have a 'personal section'. I didn't by the higher costing admissions programs that 7sage has because me and my family don't have a great deal of money.

So if you're looking for advice that is low costing I definitely suggest getting her ebook for kindle (you can get the app, it's free for some and my cost a bit for others) but it's totally worth it. I read through the entire thing in about a day and half, if that. I highlighted and made notes too because it was that helpful.

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Last comment thursday, oct 12 2017

8 hour Study Sessions

Hi, everyone. I'd like to start by saying I just now encountered 7Sage for the first time and quickly decided to get an account. I've spent some time today reading through the discussions and it has already been helpful. Though it has calmed some of my anxieties, I feel I have created a new one. There are many discussions in which I have read people commenting they study 8 hours a day, and it honestly had me panic a bit. I work full- time and do not have the time to be studying 8 hours a day without a burnout. Considering my September LSAT score (first LSAT I have taken), I feel like I SHOULD be studying for that long. How can this be, though? How is it possible to study for so long while maintaining a full time job? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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So I got my score, and although I'm not sad about it, I'm not jumping for joy. My dream school is Northwestern, and my score is one point below the median. I know this doesn't put me in a great place (GPA is 3.6). I also know that it looks like I'm the perfect example of someone who should retake.

However, I put my heart and soul into this last exam. I was PTing in the 170s (took a proctored June 2017 LSAT as a PT and got a 170). I feel like I would be taking the December test for a chance I get lucky because I don't think I can improve my LSAT capabilities. Also, work will really be ramping up for me in the next couple weeks.

Any advice? My main concern is that I know the earlier you apply, the better your chances, but how much should that factor into your decision?

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Hi everyone,

First of all, thank you for clicking into this post.

So, my Sept LSAT score is 141, higher than my diagnostic, but much lower than my practice test score. My timed PT average is 150+, and my BR average is 160+, so the 141 is a total surprise, and I am greatly discouraged right now.

I work full time, so my study schedule was maximum 2 hours Mon - Fri, and 8 to 10 hours for Sat and Sun.

I have signed up to retake the LSAT in Dec, and planned to sign up for the Feb as well since the Dec score won't be out before the registration deadline.

"I Need Someone......To Show Me My Place In All This." What should I do from now on so I could achieve my goal of a 160+?

Thank you in advance.

(P.S. I need to enroll into law school in this cycle. My parents are old and not as healthy as before, I want to make sure they could see me graduate before they are gone forever.)

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I took my first LSAT this September and just got my score back. I now have to study for the December one but I'm lost in where to start. I took almost all of the PTs from 36-80 but haven't finished the Core Curriculum. So I plan on finishing the CC but I'm not sure if I should be taking a PT every week from now on (but I took most of the PTs so I feel like my score will severely inflated) or...

I would sincerely appreciate your advice on how you all studied or plan to study for your second time around!

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Last comment thursday, oct 12 2017

Just got my score

I just got my score and I decided to take the December test. I started off last year with a Cold diagnostic of 128 and now I ended up 6 points below the median for the law school I want to go to (152). Right now I feel discouraged, and talking to other people like friends and family isn’t helping since they don’t know the struggle of this test and how to relate. So now I'm signing up for December and I need advice on how to approach this test with a smart study plan. I still have to finish the CC with reading comp, but other than that any advice or general or specific would be greatly appreciated.

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Last comment thursday, oct 12 2017

Disappointed but motivated

Hey everyone,

Hope Grey day went well for you all. I got a 165 which I am a bit disappointed in seeing as though my average is right around a 170 with ~11 PT's taken. I went -9 LR, -1 LG, and -8 RC. I have a 3.95 GPA but I'm pretty sure I'm going to need a better LSAT score to get into a T-14 school (tell me if I'm wrong there).

My plan is to take a PT every week and switch to every other week if it gets to be too much. I'm planning on continuing my fool proofing of each game for each PT that I take. This, combined with in depth BR for the LR and RC sections will hopefully be enough for me to crack into the 170's come December.

Let me know what you think of my situation and of my plan for the upcoming months. Any suggestions are really appreciated!

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Hi! Before everyone tells me to retake.... I am :) I received my LSAT score last night and I got a 149. While this was a 10 point increase from my diagnostic and I should be excited about that, we all know that this isn't going to get me into a T2 or T1 school. While a T1 school would be AMAZING, I am totally okay with going to a T2 school especially the ones in my region. That being said a score in the high 150's - low 160's would be ideal. When I was PTing, I was in this range which is why my score is sort of a surprise. Funny enough, I am not depressed nor have I even cried because I KNEW that damn 1st LR really fucked my day up. I increased dramatically on timing but I think now my issue is accuracy (where before it was the opposite).

Anyways, I need help trying to put together a study schedule, who to ask to help tutor me ( & do you accept credit cards @"Cant Get Right" ), if I should totally scratch 7sage and do an in-class program? I have a 3.65 GPA, a URM, extensive work experience, and hopefully a good personal statement (if anyone wants to read it). I have signed up for December so let's get to it!

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I've been studying off and on for a month and am on the fence about sitting for December. I took my first test prep a couple weeks ago and scored a 156. I'll have the Ultimate Package kick in for 15 months soon and could really see it being beneficial to hone in on some of the drills that were previously locked. I also purchased the LSAT Trainer and have yet to go through that.

But I'm also not currently working until the December test date, so I don't know if it's worth giving it a shot in this concentrated amount of time and if it'd be possible to improve 5-9 points within 6ish weeks with no other responsibilities. I'm teaching English abroad under a Fulbright for ten months starting in January, and my host country doesn't offer the February date. I was also an accounting major and am done with 1/4 cpa exams with a retake coming up on the 20th. So I've been torn about whether to go all in on the LSAT or to look to take a 3rd section test before I leave. Any advice/guidance from my fellow 7Sagers would be greatly appreciated.

My target schools would be USC, UCLA, Arizona State, or Northwestern if I could possibly possibly bump my scores up. I had a 3.98 GPA and some solid EC's, but I haven't been in test-taking mode in quite some time. So not sure what I should realistically set my target scores for.

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Hi there! My GPA is 3.58 and my Sept. 2017 score is 167. I wanted to submit my application earlier than December, but it seems that my chances for UCLA and USC are below 50% with these numbers (and probably $0 scholarship if I did get in). I have 8 years of work experience in the legal field. Should I start studying again? Thanks!!

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Hey guys so like many of you guys I'm not so happy about my test score (just when I thought reading comp and I were getting along). It was my first time writing the test and the experience was great because it really isn't as monstrous of a day as we make it out to be. However - I did score way below my avg test score. I was studying using PowerScore material, I had taken the course in the summer of 2015 - although I did look or practice the material until this summer when I started studying.

I have not purchased anything from 7Sage. I used my PS course books and homework sections, following a course schedule. It was fairly expensive to take the course and I'm not a big fan of throwing money at the LSAT regime. But - I am not impressed with my score at all, so I'm wondering whether you guys think it might be worth it to get some 7Sage stuff or whether I should hit the PS books again - I'll begin studying tomorrow till Dec 2 on for retest. Would really appreciate some wholesome advice.

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