Hi! So, when I blind review my answers and review the ones I did not get a chance to answer due to time, do I enter the answer choice in the analytics for the BR or leave them out? Thanks!

Hi 7sagers,

I'm planning on retaking in Sept, already used up the newer tests in preparation for the June 2017 lsat. I found PT's 70-80 to have subtle and not so subtle differences from older ones. I previously prepared using Manhattan's prep course, and they pulled from mainly 50-80 but occasionally older ones.

I'm wondering how to improve on LR and RC now, when I'm so familiar with the newer test problems and answers. Will drilling from the very earliest PT's hurt my exam prep for Sept? I know it sounds funny, if someone has a solid understanding they should be able to do well no matter how old or new the exam but I was confused why, for example I did pretty bad on the LR in the 60s but much better on 70s.

I am trying to make a purchase but my transaction keeps failing because I already have a 7Sage account. But when I try clicking on "log in" at the check out page to this current account it keeps saying Password is incorrect but I try that exact same password on other parts of the 7Sage website and I am able to get into my 7 sage account.

Is there a list of the common valid argument forms? (on the lsat)

HEY EVERYONE,

Took PT 65 on Monday and I got a 171 on it!! WOOO. JY's message hyped me up and suggested I celebrate my victory so here it goes! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS.

Tips: You CAN do it. Try drilling your weakness, COFFEE, ENOUGH SLEEP, WATER - seriously, don't forget about the non-test related essentials :)

Best of luck,

171

Hey everyone!

I just had a quick question about drilling. I have noticed that I am not very good at NA questions. I was wondering how some of you have gone about shoring up these question specific weaknesses once you've realized them. I did most of the problem sets during the CC so any advice on to general practices or where to pull questions from would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

I know this has been talked about endlessly...but here's to one more thread haha.

How do you deal with your LSAT anxiety? I find my mind races before I take a PT... and for the first few questions of the exam. I'm a yoga teacher, so I have the breathing and meditation down...but for some reason i can't get my mind to slow down when i first start a test. I'm okay after the first few questions...but the panic shows in my scores. It's like I'm not reading English anymore for the first two or three questions, and then I'm okay. Any advice on how to get over this?

Hi all-- I have been studying for the LSAT for over a year (starting June 2016). I took the exam this past June and had hoped/expected it to be my last take. As often happens, I wasn't happy with my score and I am planning to re-take the exam in Sept.

The unfortunate thing is that I have taken almost every single practice test. The only ones I have completely untouched are A B and C (and maybe one other). Thus, I am re-taking the PTs, starting with the oldest ones that I have taken (9-10 months old at the oldest). I do think there is value in that-- but what I am curious about is how much? Unless it is in my subconscious, I remember barely anything from the exams I took the longest ago. However, I am inclined to think that my score on the re-take is not "reliable" in the sense that I have seen the material before, even though the jump in some cases from first take to second take has been 20+ points.

This makes it difficult to gauge if my score is going up or not. I figure the only way to see where my score/average is now is how I do on the untouched exams. What do others think?

Anyone live in southern Connecticut and would want to set up a study group for the December 2017 LSAT evenings and weekends??

So, I have the starter package. I know there are webinars, but what other resources are available to us?

In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to translate sentences that contain both a group 3 and group 4 indicator.

The 7Sage group 3 indicators require negating an idea and making it sufficient. However, these indicators actually identify the necessary condition in the statement.

The group 4 indicators require negating an idea and making it necessary. However, these indicators identify the sufficient condition.

As a result, the suggested translation rule in lawgic that we pick one indicator to set the rule and then treat the other as a negation is actually somewhat of an extra step.

For example: No A, unless B. Typically we would choose "No" as the rule to apply (negate necessary) and then treat "unless" as a negation. So we would get A and /B and would instinctively apply the group 4 rule to the already negated element because that is easier to write out, thus giving us A-->B.

Likewise, choosing to apply the group 3 indicator rule (negate sufficient) and treat the other indicator as negation we get: /A and B and instinctively would apply the negate sufficient condition to the already negated element because that is easier to write out, thus given us A-->B.

We can reach the same result by just ignoring the indicator rules and instead understanding them as identifying either the sufficient or necessary condition, as applicable. In other words, when translating a statement with both group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group 4 indicator as group 1.

Examples:

No dog (D) is without an owner (O).

D --> O

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None of the participants were certified in special education (C) except for the director (D). (treating except as group 3 here)

C --> D

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You should never go outside (G) unless you bring your umbrella (U).

G- -> U

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Until the fire department gives the all clear (C), we cannot return to our offices (R).

R-->C

So i already took a test in December and decided to retake. I am currently PTing around 167ish and i am shooting for a 170+ the regular test deadline is august 2nd. I dont know if i should sign up or not. I dont mind retaking in december. The reason i am not pushing off till december mainly is due to nerves. What if i sit for december and freak out? I have already pushed off a cycle so no matter what i am appying for fall 2018. I have no qualms of studying till December but i worry that my nerves will get to me. If i take in September at least i have another shot after if my nerves do get to me. Thoughts?

I have just finished the core curriculum for Logical Reasoning, would it be better to continue with the core curriculum or start reading the LR Bible?

Option 1: 7sage LR --> LR Bible --> 7sage RC --> RC Bible --> 7sage LG --> LG Bible

Option 2: All of 7sage Core Curriculum --> All the Powerscore Bibles

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Hi all, I'm wondering how you decided you reached your score potential? Thanks!

How does everyone catch up to their study schedule if they get behind? I've had a hell of a week and while i've literally studied every second I wasn't doing something critical, I'm about 8 hours behind based off the schedule. Any suggestions? Should I just power through? Can I adjust it?

Recently I have had a very foggy feeling when it comes to the LSAT. I took some time off and saw a jump in my score, but since then I feel like things are slipping.

I have not been able to get back into a comfortable study routine.

During sections I feel like my brain is fogged and I am not applying the fundamentals as well any more.

During the week I'm not sure exactly what to study or how to go about advancing on the test.

I feel like I am grasping at straws now and I'm not sure how to go about changing that.

I also really would like to start getting a method set up for RC. I just am not sure where to even start. The memory method is good, but something about this section feels like I am just going with my gut. I want something that feels more concrete.

Any advice for getting back on track with this test?

It's a Saturday, my wife's working, I'm relatively free. What do I want to do? Coffee shop and study for the LSAT as I have been doing all week. Does anyone else, in a weird sort of way, enjoy the challenge of speeding through LG or drilling through LR questions? I've just found myself more and more over the last month desiring to hole up and pore over LSAT material, partially for the good score, partially for the fun of it. Am I maniacal?! lol

So I am pretty excited/nervous about starting my1L at UChi next month. After talking to some people, I have been told by some that they earned higher GPA's in law school than they did in undergrad. Of course, this is not the same as saying that it is "easier" because I highly doubt that it is. The curve could benefit some or students could benefit from being in classes that they are skilled in(unlike undergrad where classes outside your major could bring you down like Math, etc)

What are some of your thoughts?

I don't know why but I have been having trouble translating any statement that has 'neither nor' in it.

For example, how would I translate this statement into formal logic/shorthand.

Neither Garrett nor Genrietta finishes earlier than Luisa.

Thank you in advance!

I was just doing a timed PT and I found that many of the questions, due to having gone through the CC, are familiar. I've encountered most of them a while ago, but the familiarity of the questions ruins my confidence in my score. I ended up scoring 168, but I really don't know how to feel about it. Any suggestions on the type of mentality I should have when I experience similar events? Despite the fact that I didn't remember the correct answers to these questions, it still feels like I cheated. I'm sure this will occur again and again as I PT more, so I'd like to know what you think.

Hey all,

Any tips or advice on when to employ these two very different BR methods? I've found in the past that when I do full-test BR a few days later my BR score is significantly higher than when I only BR questions I circled during the normal PT (the ones where I felt (100% certain). I know this indicates that over-confidence is an issue, but I'm not sure how to address it.(/p)

This is essentially two questions. One is serious and one is not.

How many of you guys use Study Buddies? Has this been a big asset to you? A distraction? I'm trying to decide if I should continue to study alone or try to find someone to study with.

The not serious question is who all is your study buddy? Currently, mine is a small kitten I fostered earlier this summer who finds the videos fascinating. He has logged the CC hours right along side me, probably retaining more then I have lol.

LR is pretty clear for me: I get to redo the ones I circle because they were hard at that time. If I don't circle a question and I get it wrong, well then I missed something big and need to figure out what.

In RC and LG, misunderstandings can carry through entire passages/games. Do ya'll redo the entire section for these and add BR scores for every question? Or do you, as in LR, only add BR scores for the one's you circled?

At the moment, I am redoing the entire LG and RC sections with a clean copy in BR, but only adding BR answers to analytics for questions that I circled.

Thanks for your input!

Hey all :) I've never started a thread on this board so here it goes. I'm sure everyone has a bad PT every now and then, but I just had my first major PT fumble since starting my studies. It really feels like a kick in the gut in the confidence department. I'm sure this is a problem most people have and I'm really just bringing the drama (I tend to do that), but what are some tips you all have about getting over the initial freakout period in cases like this?

Here's some background. My highest PT is a 171, my lowest is a 161 (not counting my diagnostic), and my average is about a 167. I just got a 162 on a PT (BR 169). I do two PTs a week with blind review, studying about 30 hours a week in total (I'm a freelance editor so I'm hashtagblessed with a flexible schedule). I've been plateauing between 166-168 for a while now so I was kind of hoping my first foray out of that bracket for weeks wouldn't be a significant drop. And what my BR tells me is twofold: one, PR and PF questions are going to haunt my dreams until the end of days and two, timing really makes me lose my shit. Tips on how to quell clock-related anxiety are much appreciated because my heart rate enters "girl you may need an elephant tranquilizer" territory real quick.

I can't tell if I want to just halt PTs for a little and hit the ground running tomorrow drilling my weaknesses or just take a few days off completely. But if I'm being real, I just need to vent my frustrations with people who get the pressure we put ourselves under. People around me are understandably a little baffled that I'm beating the crap out of myself for what seems like no reason. Anyway, I appreciate you getting to the end of this and if I had medals to hand out, I totally would. Any feedback is appreciated since my current approach of crying buckets full of crazy LSAT tears is, you know, not the best.