Hey ’Sagers.

Here's my situation: I’m 12 PTs in, and I’m scoring generally between high 160s and low 170s (BR usually 178-179). I was hoping to take the exam in December, and my target score is 175+. I am not there, most of all because of LG.

I’m all over the place with LG, and generally way, way under where I want to be, which is starting to unnerve me because I was planning to sit for the exam in six weeks. I’m missing -0 to -8 (last PTs: -4, -2, -0, -8, -7, -7), generally riding these sections out as a pencil-gripping emotional mess, usually not getting to every question and missing others. I’m headed back to review in/out games, lessons I guess I rushed through initially, which is probably why these games in particular are a challenge. I foolproof every game and then go back and do the entire LG section at once to get a feel for proper timing. (Also I should say that I did the foolproof method for every game so far, including those in the core curriculum.) I 'get' the games eventually, it’s the first time around (the, um, one that matters) that I seem to fall apart.

I feel any remaining gains in RC and LR will happen largely through PTing, but also that I should hold off on burning through LG sections until I am more confident on games. So my plan as of right now is to continue to take PTs, skipping the LG sections for now, subbing in a section or two from an older test so I can still get a feel for the full length of the exam. That way I can still work on RC and LR and overall strategy. Then, when I feel more confident on LG, I'll catch up on those sections, adding them as a fifth section to my PTs.

I’m also thinking about going through the LSAT Trainer for just games and wondering if it’s too late to start that. Or maybe getting a tutor in NYC. I’m six weeks out from my desired test date. If I postpone until Feb that means waiting another year to apply, or applying very late, both of which I REALLY do not want to do.

I also realize that at this point that if completing 2 PTs/week on average means I will do only about 24 total PTs before 12/3. I want to get the best possible score (like, obvi), so I’m wondering if I should just plan on moving things to February, maybe applying extremely late or just the next cycle. (Again, I do not want to do this.)

So the questions:

1) How does that 6-week strategy sound? ~2 PTs a week, plus LG ‘bootcamp,’ maybe with The Trainer, waiting to do LG sections until I’m more confident [2 weeks, hopefully, which would give me a month to practice on the actual PTs.])

2) Does anyone recommend adding the LSAT Trainer for LG? Could I get through the games chapters in 2 weeks? Or am I just going to add an unnecessary cook into the kitchen?

3) Would the difference between taking roughly 25 PTs vs 40 PTs warrant postponing applying until February or the next cycle?

4) Has anyone worked with a tutor for LG in NYC and had a positive experience? Again, I’m game-proficient, just not within the time constraints of the exam. Ideally I'd want someone to look at what I've done in past exams, maybe watch me do a section, give me feedback.

Thanks!

Will they start over the process even if we just want to ask additional accommodation?

Will they elliminate the accommodations they have granted?

I am a little confused. I got a raw score of 80 on my latest LSAT. What scaled score does that translate to?

hey guys, how long does it take to BR and do you have a systematic approach that works best for you? I feel like i need to experiment a bit with my BR process. Thanks in advance!

Just wondering, when do they publish PT79?

Where do you usually get PTs?

And, when does 7sage publish explanations for newest PT?

Hey everyone!

This is my first post here. I'm planning to enroll with 7Sage imminently. Excited for the journey!

I have a copy of Mike Kim's Trainer and I was wondering if it's a good idea to incorporate it along with 7Sage's Core Curriculum.

Should I do one before the other instead? Does it even matter?

Additional info: I plan on taking the LSAT in September of next year

Thanks in advance!

As I am completing the core curriculum, we are required to obtain PT 39 and 40. These two tests are (for me) nearly unobtainable. The only access is to buy a book on amazon going for almost $140. I'm curious to how other Sager's work through this conundrum. Is there a better way to obtain these two tests without dishing out over a $100? If not, how did you get around this barrier? Perhaps am I looking in the wrong place for these two tests, or have other people just skipped PT 39 and 40 in the curriculum (which I am contemplating doing)? Any thoughts? I have found all other PT's I need, just not PT 39 and 40 :-(

Hey guys, I do not have an available printer that I can use without having to pay to print out certain problem sets at my school library. My biggest problem is the time limit still, finding the right answer has not been an issue for me. I was wondering if printing out the problems to do actual marking on the problem sheet would increase my time dramatically and also help me improve my overall score. As of now I am just doing using scratch paper to answer the questions. I am still learning and improving but I was just wondering if having an actual paper document in front of me to mark would would help me more to the point where it is worth printing it out. Thanks!

I got PT 60s raw score around 165, but when I review PT 40s and 50s, I still got 159 and around. Really upset about that it. What will happen on PT 70s and on the real test?

Hey guys,

I am graduating from college in the Spring of 2017. My projected GPA will be around 3.7 or 3.69.

Does it make a difference for law school admissions to have a GPA of 3.7 as opposed to 3.69?

Thank you.

So I've taken a look all around the forums, and watched the videos on the Memory Method, but I was just wondering how you guys think I should try and implement the Memory Method into my test-taking habits for the December LSAT? I have the freedom to study everyday, so whatever you guys suggest is cool, I just want to improve my RC a little bit, at least (I'm consistently at like -13).

Essentially, I want to know how often to practice, and how I should practice using the Memory Method?

Thank you guys, appreciate any help I can get!

I think I am confused with causal argument and conditionality.

I felt when causal argument has something to do with explanation, giving explanation/hypothesis in the conclusion. Then, there is some kind of bi conditional relationship between cause and effect. (if there is a cause there must be effect, if there is a effect, there must be cause, and there is no alternative explanation)

However, if there is a premise describing a causal relationship, would it be okay to think that there is bi conditional relationship between cause and effect? I feel like there is only one way relationship. Cause being the sufficient condition and Effect being the necessary condition.

Plz Comment. I am using this idea when I am doing questions. I am still unsure.

Hey everybody!

Before I graduated from my university, my advisor suggested I write an addendum for my science grades. He has since changed professions and I cannot get a hold of him. His replacement is not very helpful. I completed 3 and a half years of premedical preparation before deciding to go to law school, and quite frankly, I decided in my last semester. There are two rather dramatic events that are described in my personal statement which caused the change. With science grades included, my GPA is a 3.43 and without them, it is boosted to around 3.7. Is there an eloquent way to write an addendum or should I avoid it completely?

Thank you!!!

Hey guys, a while back some of you asked for an accommodated proctor. It took a while but we just uploaded a 5 section, accommodated LSAT proctor up on YouTube. We're hoping to get it worked into the app soon as well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K5CK3CM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

One of my friend recommended this book to me. I just want a second opinion. Thanks!

Hey guys!

I'm on the Main Point and Main Conclusion Problem Set 1, and the first question is from Preptest 21. But according to the pinned post here https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2770/list-of-affordable-pts-paperback-hard-copy/p1 , it says that for Ultimate+ I only would need PT 36-77. So do I really need all of the PTs to do all the homeworks? I'm just confused about what materials I need, especially because I like having all the questions in hard copy to practice with. Will this happen again in future homeworks as well? What should I do? :/

Thanks so much!!

Hey Ya'll,

Just less than 2 months before my December exam, I am at a crucial point in my preparation. I want to start Blind Reviewing and taking full PTs by October 24th. However, I will not be able to complete the entire curriculum. Fear not, as I've already taken a Kraplan course before and have a good understanding of how to approach all LR and LG types - I feel as though I just need more practice.

SO, should I sacrifice finishing the CC for Blind Review (2 pts a week) starting October 24th? My plan is to do a PT one day, spend the next day blind reviewing, and then the third day I would watch CC videos for anything that needed clarification. Do this routine twice a week with one day off.

Should I risk begin only starting to PT by November 15thish or do you think actual practice can be more rewarding than the CC?

...without burn out?

If so, how??

Hi,

I was just wondering...

Anyone had this combination before the break?

Would there always be the experiment section in the morning?

Thanks

Hey 7Sagers, we got a great webinar for you from our very own @"Accounts Playable"

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Hi guys,

So I am planning on creating a warm up routine for all my prep-tests in the run up to test day. Can you guys provide me with inputs regarding:

a) the time I should take for warm-up;

b) the number and type of questions I should do;

c) the sections I should do;

d) the type of questions or sections I should avoid.

Also given that on test day, the clerical procedure before the exam will take around hour, what step should I take to not 'cool down'? And how many hours before the test should I do the warm-up? Any other suggestions or considerations will also be appreciated. Thanks.

Hey everyone! I've been curious as to how people go about approaching their health, nutrition and time management while preparing for their exam. Obviously, the test is very difficult to master and is very demanding cognitively and, at times, physically, especially for those who are also still in school or work full/part time jobs.

Any tips on dieting/nutrition? (What kinds of foods are you eating to stay focused and improve mental cognition, how much water a day) Exercise? (More cardio as opposed to weightlifting, how many times a week, etc.) How much sleep every night, on average? Also, how do you break up your studying routines? (First thing in the morning, at night, large chunks of time vs. small amounts throughout the day). And while studying, tips to remain focused? (Study snacks, turning off phone, etc.).

I'm interested in what people suggest. Thanks for your help!

Can you teach undergraduate courses at a university with a JD?

Is there a quiz or a PDF on game type identification? Much Thanks.

Hi guys,

I have a question on upgrading to the Ultimate+. I have been using the Premium package for the last few months because at the time I was only able to afford the Premium package. I want to upgrade to the Ultimate+ and I remember on reading few months back people have done this and have been able to get the full access as if they first purchased the package.

Just wondering If I purchased the package today will I be able to get the full access rather then just the 2 month extension.

Thank you.