Hey Guys!

I am retaking the LSAT in December, and I realized I really need to start with fundamental training. So, I am starting with logic games. Would any of you suggest Powerscore's logic games bible or should I just stick to 7Sage + the LSAT trainer + fool proof method of the Cambridge bundles for lg?

Thanks,

Kristen

When you get accepted, are the schools going to straight up offer it on the letter or do you need to apply? Can you haggle?

Random thought, but does anyone know what JYs score on the LSAT was? Curious to know

Couldn't find a category to put this thread under (there should be a "random" or something category), but does anyone watch SAO or has heard of it? Great show

Edited: 7/12/16, 2:31pm EST - Updated flowchart

Approximately a month ago I began studying for the December '16 test with with a 149 diagnostic score. After three practice tests, I'm up to 163. I'm still hoping to reach around 175 before the official test. I realized that during the fall semester I won't be able to study as much as I am over the summer, so I wanted to find some sort of map for questions I can look over to aid in practicing and refresh my memory in between any breaks from studying.

I was looking for a flowchart that mapped essentially everything on the LSAT and I couldn't find anything that had quite what I was seeking. I decided to make one on my own on draw.io and in an hour I came up with this...

Would anyone like to collaborate on a project like this?

Draw.io allows you to save the chart to your device in a .xml format, which we could share back and forth each time we make updates.

Please let me know if you're interested or if you have any feedback! I'd like the chart to be exhaustive as well as visually appealing, so any help I can get would be great.

I'm confused because I am in the some and most relationships lessons and the word "ALL" is being brought back from conditional logic. From my understanding "All" is a group 1 sufficient condition indicator in conditional logic. So for example All J are F = (J --> F) and to negate we take the contrapositive (/F --> /J) however in the some and most relationships lessons were being told to take "ALL" and negate it using "some not" which would bring (J --> F) into ( J some /F). So whats the difference between the two, when should we use one over the other I'm just kind of confused.

I am recently taking LR from old PTs(1-20) in order to boost my score on this section. My maximum score is 159 but it fluctuates a lot. I sometimes scored 151 and stopped after scoring 156 on PT 46. I realized that my LR section score fluctuates between 60 - 70%. It seems that my LR hasn't improved much from 2007 test - which is 64% per section. I am not sure if my method is right. I've already went through 7sage package. Do I have to use LSAT trainer again? Or Cambridge LR bundle? BTW I've been writing down almost every time I BR my PTs.

For "strengthen EXCEPT" questions, should I be eliminating anything that could possibly strengthen, despite having to make large assumptions to do so? Conversely, will the correct/except choice be fully irrelevant and/or weaken?

For example, in PT37.S2.Q20, I was 50/50 between B and D after I noticed that B was talking about oxygen and not oxygenated blood, but I completely fell for D...

I initially overlooked B after making the assumption that the capacity to store oxygen in some part of the body could possibly strengthen the hypothesis that seals could store oxygenated blood in spleens for long dives.

Granted, D distinguishes some property of seals from other aquatic mammals that don't dive long, but isn't it a bit of a stretch to assume that larger has something to do with storing more oxygenated blood? Heck, having a larger spleen could just be a result of being a big animal.

Thanks.

Background: I used to be super active on 7sage in 2015 as I was gearing up for the June 2015 LSAT. I took a year long hiatus after I dropped 10 points from my PT average on the June 2015 LSAT and have only recently started studying again.

Today, I finally decided to see what exactly went wrong on the June 2015 test and just finished blind reviewing it (an honest blind review, not like, oh I guessed "D" here so I know that one's wrong so of A, B, C and E, which one is right). Omg guys I'm so mad at myself. If I hadn't second guessed my logic and shed all my good habits (like consistently diagramming the argument core and not getting frightened when my pre-phrase didn't match my the answer choices after the first round), I could have scored 9 FREAKING POINTS better -- that's the difference between my actual 162 and a possible 171.

I just wanted to share this to reiterate how important positive psychology and mindset is on game day (coming from someone who clearly could not stay mentally positive during the test).

Which question types is the some and most relationships lessons important for?

In the last few weeks, I have hit the ground running so to speak.I've read the LGB and LRB religiously and have seen improvements. The linear games have become like second nature for me. The other games are a work in progress. I'm currently posting around 18/23 in the sample LG sections I have (19 on my PT today). Not where I want to be, grouping games are killing me right now. LR is moving a bit slower, I'm averaging a mere 66% on Must Be True questions (I've put most of my efforts into those types of LR questions) The other day, I did about 50 questions in my workbook and got 39 of them correct (not exactly where I want to be but I was feeling okay). Today I did about 70 from my Kaplan book and only answered 46 of them correct. My irritation caused me to rush into a PT where I only scored a 158 (36 on both sections combined). RC went horrid, with a 15, though I haven't studied RC questions at all. Exam day is in 10 weeks. I've put about 30 hours a week into studying for the LSAT and I don't want to burn myself out but I feel kind unaccomplished. Have I hit a wall?

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Hi everyone,

Was hoping to get some advice. I'm planning on writing the LSAT in September. I wanted to register today and starting getting second thoughts. I am currently scoring in the low 160 range. I think if I scored a 160, I could potentially get into the school I wanted here in Canada. That being said, I've seen a lot of mentions of the "test day penalty", and I don't want to risk that 160 going down due to test day nerves. I decided the best way to avoid that would be to try to consistently break the 165 barrier.

I am currently writing about 2-3 prep-tests a week and spending a fair amount of time on blind review. I guess my question is, what are the odds that I'm able to bring my score up by 5+ points by September? And does anyone have any suggestions for what I should be spending my time on?

My best section is logic games where I usually average -2, Reading Comprehension I'm not too worried about, and Logical Reasoning is definitely my worst; specifically necessary & sufficient assumptions according to analytics.

Would really appreciate any personal experience stories and advice.

For those retakers who went from a 160 score into the 170s, how did you define drill? I do feel as though drilling is different depending on the band of scores one is scoring in (e.g., drilling in the 150s typically means still figuring out the lack of fundamentals while drilling in the 170s may look like ________).

- Do you define it as timed sections?

- Do you define it as Cambridge drill packets (for those that are lucky enough to still have those)?

- Do you define it as re-doing questions that you previously missed?

- [insert other option]

I read the definition, and I understand what it is. But is the "score band" information used by law schools for admissions purposes or by anyone for any purposes? paging @"Nicole Hopkins" and @Pacifico

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, but is the length of each silent video (normally 1:24) the target time that you would ideally need to spend on a question?

Dear All,

I am getting confused on what the contrapositive is for conditional rules in LG that have a subset feature.

For example, if you a grouping game, and there are 3 groups (A, B, C) and the rule states, if P is not in A, then H is not in A. What is the contrapositive of that?

This time around I'm not playing any games. This will be my third take at the LSAT and I'm not planning on taking any more after this (Please God, PLEASE). I've made my first step in the right direction by undergoing the 7sage curriculum but now I'm understanding the impact of a healthy lifestyle. I believe a sedentary lifestyle along with poor consumption habits will not help you get an amazing score so I'm deviating away from that.

Oh yeah that brings me to my original point: water intake! Check out this article I stumbled upon that shows what water does to you: https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/i-drank-a-gallon-of-water-a-day-for-30-days-water-gallon-challenge

I plan on drinking lots more water now that I see how amazing it works for your mental health. Anyone willing to follow suit? Also what do you like eating/drinking/exercising that has helped your LSAT performance?

I have posted about this before, but my struggle is only getting worse. I just hit an all time low on the RC section. -5 below my diagnostic. I am not sure what to do. I know its hard to improve, but I am taking a huge step in the wrong direction. ANY suggestions? Would love to hear from people who improved their RC scores. REALLY need some motivation.

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Hey folks!

I've spent the last couple of months (since February) studying and working full-time. I'm nearing the end of my curriculum. In fact, I've arranged an opportunity to be able to take about 2.5 months off of work to study full-time before the September exam. I'm really looking for some advice on what/how to study + drill over those months. Any success stories with points/knowledge gains over the BR portion of studying? Any advice before I begin will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks:)

Hi there!I took February and June exam but got only 150 in both the exams.I have been studying since February and the June exam went well but it did not reflect in my score.I have completed Powerscore and LSAT trainer for LR,RC and Blueprint for LG.

I missed seven questions in LG this June.I am planning to retake in December. How should I study to increase my score to 170+?

Today I took at Pt from 2002, and did pretty poorly compared to my other recent PTs. Is this PT too out of date to be concerned? It seemed to take me a lot longer than the newer Pts I have previously done.

Is there a way to get Statistics for difficulty comparison of RC or LR sections across PTs? 1-5 star system doesn't differentiate in many cases as most RCs are 5-star.

Just like 7-sage shows the %age of Analytics users who filled out the answer sheet and picked a specific answer for a Question, can one see the average misses for a specific RC section. Like -6 for PT-70 RC or something like that among 10,521 users who filled out the answer sheet in Analytics.

This is specifically useful for RC (and may be LG/LR sections) where the sections are given the same star-rating.