I don't know why it takes a whole month to release LSAT scores, but is it generally not advisable to take the Dec. exam if you're planning on applying that cycle to very competitive schools?

Reason I ask is because I'd like to take Sept and Dec (as backup) but if I don't get scores until January I feel like I might as well wait until the next cycle to apply. A lot of this is based on what's ideal and I know many would point out that I should take the test when I feel ready, but timing and a backup plan are strategic considerations that have to at least be factored.

Is anyone else having trouble focusing on the LSAT with everything that is going on? This is an incredible space and I do not wish to compromise its neutrality. I am simply having trouble focusing. Does anyone have tips on staying the course?

I have a UK masters graded on a scale very different from the US GPA system. How will it be evaluated by LSAC?

Thanks!

Hey guys,

I have finished the curriculum and I'm planning on taking the June LSAT. I feel kind of stuck about where to go from here. Should I take practice tests and blind review? Or should I work on timing with some sort of drill? I'm super slow at answering test questions and I'm not sure what the best way to get faster is. I have only taken 2 practice tests so far. I feel a little overwhelmed and I just want to make sure I'm making the best use of my studying time. Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks!

~Danielle

At this point, most of us have spent many hours watching videos. Above these wonderful videos is JY's family avatar.

BUT WHAT IS IT? Is he on a jungle gym? Behind a giant steering wheel?

Please post hypotheses. Thank you.

As I am going through the CC I have noticed in at least two PTs that there have been a misspelled or missing word in a question.

The first time I noticed this was when a stimulus was talking about "Otterville" but the question and answers used "Outerville". The second instance, however, was more game changing. In my PT 22, Section 4, Question 14, answer choice B is missing the word "not". In the 7sage CC it was present. The wording of the answer was tripping me up and I had almost chose it, though after seeing the video explanation with the missing word added it made so much more sense to immediately cross out that answer.

Has anyone else experienced a difference between their PT's language and what 7sage has? I'm not worried my PT's are severely messed up but is a bit confusing to me.

I have printed PDFs of the PTs that were distributed by Kaplan.

Having prepped for a long time, all the preptests I have taken thus far were retakes and I have been scoring in the mid to high 170s with several 180s as BR score. I'm at a bit of dilemma, because I didn't expect PT 80 to be released yesterday and I'm debating whether or not to take that exam or PT 79 before the February exam. PT 79 was an official take for me but I haven't had the chance to take it on my own nor BR it; PT 80 would be a completely fresh take. Should I take both exams before February 4th? Or perhaps take PT 79 and take the LG section of PT 80?

I guess I have a 2 part question in a way. First, I have been working on SA questions and I'm really having trouble putting everything together under timed conditions. I was fine with the questions that JY does to introduce you to SA questions (I would try to solve it before watching). Its like my mind starts to race and skips every other word when the clock starts. I don't want to use up too many of the problem sets under non-timed conditions but I'm finding myself having to do this to understand the question.

Any suggestions on what I should do? I get the logic part, but I just seem to fritz which leads me to my other question.

My biggest weakness is mentally focusing when under timed conditions. Like I said above, my mind gets fritzy and I lose all focus; especially if I don't understand what I'm reading the first time because I know I'm wasting precious seconds.

Any tips on what has worked to keep your mind calm and focused during PT's/actual tests?

Hey guys! PT 80 just dropped on Amazon if you didn't have a copy of it before and would like to take it before the February exam.

Hi guys,

So I have been studying for the LSAT since 2014 and I have been also doing freelance consulting work up until August 2015. I have about a 2 year gap in resume currently, due to studying full time for the LSAT, and I was wondering how damaging this would be for the 1L OCI interview process. I realize I may be going ahead of myself at the moment but I'm concerned about the impact this might have on my future employment prospects. Will this be an issue for law firms during the OCI process for summer internships?

Just curious :). I hope I get an LG section first. And I'd rather have my experimental section up front. I generally pick up momentum in the second section. What about you guys?

What is a good warmup for the day of the test? I noticed when I do logic games shortly after I wake up in the morning, the first time I make some sloopy mistakes and miss questions I could have easily answered correctly. However, the second time around I am much more sharper in mind and less likely to make careless mistakes. Any tips to warmup my mind to perform at optimal level for test day?

I need your help reasoning through taking the June or October test.

I am 30 y/o working professional with a masters degree looking to make a career change. I've been seriously planning to go to law school for 3 years now. I started with the PowerScore books in 2013 and those did not work for me. Then I had an intense job and had to prioritize that. Then in fall of 2015 I took an intensive in-person prep class but I got behind because of my 60+ week work schedule at the time and didn't finish the class. I found 7Sage in September and I've been committed to studying since late November. I love it because it's on my own schedule. Also it's been the first prep material I've done that actually makes sense.

I would like to apply by November 15th/December 1 to law school at the latest.

I have about 100 more hours of core curriculum to finish. I was originally planning on the June test but with my schedule it might be tough, maybe not, I don't know. At the most I can find 12-15 hours per week to study (on a good week) and about 4-8 hours on a crazy week.

What are your thoughts? Target October? Is it too late for the application timeline I've set out? Will I still be a competitive applicant? Or take June and October?

Thanks!

Hey guys,

I have read here that most people consider taking a PT everyday generally a negative thing for LSAT preparation. Is the reasoning behind it just due to fatigue or are there other reasons?

Am asking cause my plan was to taking a PT each day this week to just get more comfortable with the exam (haven't taken a lot of PT's yet).

Over the past three months, I completed the 7sage course and the Powerscore LG Bible. I took my first post study practice test and scored a 162 and -5, -5, -6, -6 on my four sections so there is no glaring weakness in a particular section for me.

I am planning to take 20 practice tests before the June 2017 LSAT and I am aiming for a 167+.

Is this a reasonable expectation?

How big of a score increase do people usually see after taking lots of timed PTs?

THANKS!

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For those of you taking the upcoming June administration of the LSAT or thinking ahead to future administrations, we'd like to share a few best practices/pro-tips to help ensure that you're in top shape heading into the exam. We've included some guidance for the week leading up to the exam as well as for Game Day itself.

Right up front, we'd like to say that you're not going to learn anything new the week before the exam. The hay is in the barn. You've already done the work that will carry you into the exam. Don't cram PT's; at most, do a few sections to keep your mechanics sharp. You need to make sure that you're fresh and in the right mindset for Game Day.

1) Between today and Sunday, go to bed and wake up at the same time every day (and this should be the same time you'll need to wake up for the June exam). Waking up ~3 hours before the earliest time you're likely to start the test (as soon as 30 minutes after the show-up time) will help ensure that your cortisol levels are up and that you're fully awake. Waking up at this time during this week and Monday June 6th helps to ensure that you'll be tired enough to go to bed Sunday night. Also, no screens/blue light after 10pm. This will help ensure that you're not artificially stimulating cortisol (waking yourself up) before bed.

2) Pre-hydrate. Drink a 3-4 liters of water every day of the week before the test. It's really not that big of a deal to drink that much water, and doing so will ensure that you are well hydrated the morning of without having to drink much (if any) liquid.

3) Practice your game day routine at least twice. This means wake up at the time you'll wake up on Monday, eat the exact same breakfast/lunch you plan for game day. Keep track of what you eat and drink and when you do it. Track your hunger, thirst, and bathroom need levels (just like in The Sims). Pro-tip: if you need to go at 2PM, there's a very strong likelihood that if you follow the same plan/timing, you will need to go in the middle of a section. Which is what we want to avoid.

4) Day of, general: Don't do anything differently from your dress rehearsals. No magic pills. No extra coffee. No tricks. No surprises. Perhaps get to the test center early and just go for a walk around the grounds if feasible. You might see some very nervous folks in crisis mode. Disregard. You are not them.

5) Day of, warm up: Whatever you do, don't score anything. And don't do any new material. Maybe take a handful of LR Q's, maybe one easy game, maybe one easy RC. Just chill out about it. You're just warming up your mechanics.

6) Day of, during the break: People will try to talk to you because they are nervous or want reassurance. You are not there to be anyone's friend. You are not there to be anyone's therapist or life coach. However you put up your personal "Do Not Disturb" status—just don't let anyone throw you off your game.

Hi everyone,

After joining the last webinar I realized that I am not the only one who is studying with repeated preptests which that was a relief. I'm planning to write in June but if need be I can write it at a later time. Right now I'm using old preptests and use 1-15 tests as my experimental section. I have only 4 new tests (all recent ones) and I'm keeping them to write in March, April and May. I extensively BR each section. I know my scores are inflated and I know I remember at least 4-5 questions (mostly from LR). Sometimes I write the test in 33-32 minutes, and other times I give myself a penalty for those questions I remember(spending more time for the questions as if I was BR ing them). I'm keeping track of my scores and I'm having an upward trend.

I started studying from September but not knowing where I'm sitting right now at this point is discouraging and is anything but motivating. Sometimes I wonder what if I'm not improving or if all these efforts are futile!. For those of you who practiced with old materials how did you cope with the mental and emotional exhaustion of it?

Thank you so much:)

I'm prior service and had two of my army psychiatrists write me a letter to send to the LSAT people asking for extra time due to my ptsd and the fact that i have minor ADHD take ritalin and propranolol for tests,how are they with giving extra time? is it a difficult process? anyone think i have a chance?

This is a two part question in reference to the embedded conditionals video.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

Part 1:

Put the following sentence into Logic and contrapose it:

If the seeds are planted in the winter, then flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied.

SPW --> (~FA-->~FB )

which more clearly is:

SPW and ~FA --> ~FB

contrapositive:

FB --> ~SPW or FA

Part 2:

Down in the comments someone asked:

What if the parenthesis are around the 1st and 2nd elements? ie. [A -> B] -> C.

JY responded with:

Original: (A–>B ) –> C

Contraposed: /C –> /(A–>B )

Group 3: /C –> /(/A or B )

De Morgan’s: /C –> (A and /B )

Simplified: /C –> A, /C –> /B

Or alternatively, we could have applied

Group 3 translation rule first: (/A or B ) –> C

Simplified: /A –> C, B –> C

Where did the Group 3 come from????

I got lost in his explanation there.

Can someone answer that question or maybe explain it in a different way. I feel like it's very obvious, I'm just not seeing it right now.

Thank you!

Which LG are the most relevant nowadays? I read somewhere that if I have limited time to prep, then 50 - 79 would be best to master. Should I include even before 50, or perhaps even after 50?

Greetings fellow 7Sages :)

Since questions in each LR/RC section get harder, and since I start to feel mentally fatigued once I reach questions 18-onward, I was thinking of starting each LR/RC (and maybe even LG) section from the last question and working back to the first.

Has anyone tried this? Any input or advice would be much appreciated! (Sorry if this topic has already been covered).

So what are your thoughts? Have I really set myself back for getting from my official 159 to a 165 retake by using so many PTs?

Well! I have to say that I was pretty happy with my independent improvement from first PT (146) in August to official LSAT (159) in December. However, towards the end I was scoring mostly low160s and even a 165 so I really believe I am capable of a 163+ score. The fact that RC is my strongest section and that I studied without a proper curriculum to this point only strengthen my belief.

But now I am in, what feels like, an unideal position: I've drilled with or taken almost every PT from 52 through 75.

In the opening lessons of 7Sage core curriculum, JY says burning through PTs like that can do "irreparable damage". That language scares the crap out of me! I know that there are PLENTY of questions in those PTs which I have not yet mastered and there are lots of test taking strategies which I've yet to master as well, but I can't help but feel that having used so many PTs will only add to the difficulty of improving my score.

Anyone willing to review and provide feedback to my personal statement?

Hey 7Sagers,

Little background: After going through entire Powerscore (Bibles) curriculum, i recently started 7 Sage. Initially, i was confused regarding how fast i should go through the core curriculum (CC) on 7Sage. Mentors here unanimously advised me to go through entire CC and ensure that i absorb all the content taught in CC.

I want to ask the community what are the best practices / Strategies that they have applied when in CC phase of their LSAT prep? Could you please expand on how much note taking you did? And what did you do to reinforce the important concepts? Feel free to elaborate on any other important point in terms of going through CC.

Can a highs corer share his or her views on this?

7Sagers,

On Wednesday, January 25th, at 9 p.m. EST, I’ll talk about two ways to improve your odds after you’ve submitted: sending a letter of continuing interest or a “why X?” essay. Afterwards, if we still have time, I’ll answer your last-minute questions.

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