Hey Y'all

I just started 7sage for the Feb 5 test and the lessons i have learnt are absolutely fantastic.

i am very excited about learning blind review and i hope it will work for me.

I just feel like a bit of regret that didn't use 7sage before and this is holding me down and it has induced fear in me that i will not do as well as i want to due to the short period of time i have before the Feb exam.

Here's my problem: I'm moving at an insanely slow pace through the 7Sage material. How slow? I'm taking at least four times longer than the time estimates on most sections. And often much, much longer than that.

Some context: I got a mid 150s diagnostic with a clear weakness in LG. I'm scheduled for the June sitting.

The source of my problem is two fold:

(1) I'm taking crazy copious notes. I'll watch every substantive video at least twice, pausing frequently, to transcribe the content on paper in my own words. I'll print out any written material and read through with a pen and highlighter before watching a video.

(2) I'm not moving on until I'm absolutely confident with the material (LR so far). I do drills from the Cambridge books on relevant material (MP/MSS questions so far) and blind review most questions. I take forever! I have taken upwards of 30 minutes to review my thought process on one question. If you do the math, this means that some days I will have reviewed as little as 10 questions, including the time it takes to initially test myself and to watch the 7Sage videos / read discussions after my self review.

Is it normal for studying to move this slowly? If not, what should I change?

If you've taken two LSAT exams back to back, did you see a increase or decrease in your score? By how many points? Is there an average number of points that repeat LSAT takers gain or lose?

So I had my first take of the LSAT in December, after studying pretty much every day while working full-time for the 4 months prior. I obviously haven't received my score yet, but I did poorly enough on the logic games that I know I didn't hit my target score (173+), so I decided to delay my applications a year and retake in June. I didn't quite reach the point of full burnout, but I definitely needed some time off. My question: how long do I wait before jumping back into a study schedule?

I can't take the February test because I'm probably going to be traveling for work that month, but I do worry that a full 6 months of dedicated studying on top of what I've already done will lead to severe burnout unless I strategize properly. Any advice?

I've heard it's a must watch but for some reason I can't find it on the webinar page

So I just finished the Nicole Hopkins webinar on RC and felt like a lot of it made sense. But as I try to work through an RC passage on my own using her method, I'm finding that so much seems unclear. I decided to use the first passage of my most recent PT (PT54). Below is a run down of what I annotated and where I ran into problems. I'm hoping I can figure this method out because it seems helpful, but ultimately the method so far seems to leave me with more questions than answers. If I constantly need to second guess and wonder if I'm correctly annotating everything then I will only be wasting time that I could otherwise be using to answer questions.

So the first thing I annotate is the very first word of the passage which is "The Internet". I box and tail the "The internet" with the tail being the explanation of what the internet is in order to show it's a what. Next, I square "Internet Users" on line 3 to show who. Here is where I find my first unknown. Do I need to [bracket] the "throughout the world" found on line 4 to show a where? Next I bracket line 5's "national and other political borders" because borders are technically places. Not totally sure if that should be bracketed. Finally the last thing I annotate in paragraph one is the "borders" found on the last line of the paragraph line 9. I bracket this once again because borders are technically places.

The first sentence of paragraph 2 seems like it should have some type of annotation but I can't decide so I move on to line 12 where I circle "presupposes" to indicate when. On line 13 I carrot "But" to show a pivot. "Borders" on line 15 gets a bracket again. Next on line 16 I square "government" to signify who. The next annotation comes on line 19 where I carrot the "But". That is the last annotation I give for paragraph two even though it feels like I've missed something between line 20 and 29.

Paragraph 3 opens with a box and tail around "legal domain" and the words that follow to indicate a what. On line 33 I bracket "country" again to show where but I feel unsure if this is right. This is done again with "country" on line 34. Line 39 receives a carrot to indicate a pivot with the word "but". Now here is where I get really confused. Line 43 contains the word "Norway". Does this receive a bracket to indicate where or does this receive a box because we're talking about Norway as an actor or agent? I have the same issue with "Brazil" on line 44 and 45. Line 45 receives a Q in the margin to indicate the question asked. Line 48 receives a carrot to indicate the pivot word "otherwise". "Country" on line 49 receives yet another bracket to show where but again I am unsure of this being correct.

Paragraph 4's first annotation comes on line 53 and 54 where I box "electronic communication" and underline what follows to indicate what electronic communication is. "French" on line 57 gets squared in order to indicate a who and then Canada and Japan both receive brackets to on line 59 to indicate where. Lastly I put a Q in the margins of line 59 so that I can indicate a question was asked.

When I had finished all of this I was unsure if I did things correctly and felt that I definitely missed things. I decided to go to the first question and only then did I realize that I was so focused on annotating that I didn't really read the passage. Because I read looking for things to annotation, I ended up having no idea what I actually had just read. Is there a resource, link, or place where I can view properly annotated passages done by others? I don't want to give up on this method after one try but I just don't see how I could annotate everything correctly in under 4 minutes.

Hey 7sagers,

So I took the December LSAT and it went okay, but I know I probably didn't reach my goal. I'm registered for February, took a week or so off and have been studying again now. So my 7sage membership was almost up and I decided to upgrade to Ultimate. Ultimate is amazing, I'm happy with my decision the problem sets are awesome. I was done all the CC before but now that I have ultimate I'm only 65% done and have to finish the new PSs. I've been working on them but of course they're time consuming to do and properly BR, so I haven't been able to do any new prep tests. What do you guys think I should do...prep test while still completing the new PSs, or finish them all first then start my prep tests again. It's almost January! Where has the time gone I'm starting to panic a little right now. Any advice would be appreciated!

Oh and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Hello, I am looking for a study group in NYC to start studying for the LSAT 2017. We can meet over the weekend or weekday. Let me know.

So on the side menu of the app there are logic game videos that e plain the questions and gives the answers. But where do you get the questions from? I see they are from a prep test but what prep test?

Hey again everyone!

I was wondering what the biggest difference was between older and newer/more recent PT's? Which are more difficult? Are there certain sections that are considerably different? I have pretty much decided to postpone the February LSAT once again, but I really think I should be ready to go by June.

Any tips or suggestions would be gladly accepted, thank you all!

I am getting in a bit of a groove in terms of studying for this thing. I am finally picking off answers and my mind is growing to understand sentence structure as well as logic structure. With that said, I have had a pretty crazy study schedule, and am only going to afford around 12 PT's until the big kahuna in February.

February is going to be my first LSAT take, and if my current grasp of things continues, I think I may actually have something going (crossing fingers, because I am not testing but just doing random exercises and studying the curriculum intensely). OBviously, if I mess up, I am going to retake in June and September if necessary.

With that said, I will obviously know where I could be come the first few I take and BR. However, I want to make sure I have a grasp of exams that you guys feel were most challenging or best suited to prepare me for the current exam.

Which 12 would you pick?

I just finished the Assumptions and Weakening lessons. I feel like I'm following the subject matter and doing well on the questions, but sometimes get confused when I read everyone's comments and they split hairs about the difference between what is the premise and what is support. Are the terms not interchangeable? I understand the basic concept of the premise supporting the conclusion, but feel like maybe I'm missing something. Can someone explain the difference to me?

I know this may be a bit silly to ask, but I don't see this used anywhere else. What does the dash mean in reading comprehension passages? for example "Indeed, certain notables even called for the enslavement of unemployed laborers who roamed the british countryside -------- an acceptance of coerced labor that Eltis attributes to a preindustrial desire to keep labor costs low.......

what does that dash mean between countryside and the word AN

Hey guys,

I wrote the December LSAT but i indicated that i might be writing the February lsat on my OLSAS applications (Canada). Does this mean they won't review my application until after the February results come out? Does anyone know?

I was just wondering if anyone has any general information on spring starts in law school. I've been advised by a couple lawyers that it's always a viable option if for some reason a normal Fall start couldn't work, but I'd like to know if the community has anything better. I obviously would rather start in the Fall, but I'm weighing all my options and am making sure I have more than just a plan B if needed, so any pros/cons, concrete information would be awesome. Thanks in advance!

I got the most unexpected and awesome call from a Palo Alto area code yesterday, and it's in large part because of the people who built this site and all those who have made this such a wonderful community. My diagnostic score was a 154. Believe in yourself, be disciplined, and trust in the process. Oh, and watch all of JY's LG videos ;)

Let's keep our heads in the game by taking a moment to acknowledge our LSAT victories (small or large)!

I'll get the ball rolling:

1) I've gotten a bit faster at LG

2) I've identified areas to improve

3) I experience less anxiety during timed conditions

i am a physician and decided to go to law school and despite graduating with high honors and graduating from the university of Illinois very high in my class, I took the lsat will no preparation and scored 151, worse performance of my life , couldn't finish the test . Was admitted with a scholarship a deans scholarship, I was so dismayed with my performance and a month ago bought your books , a month later I took 4 prep tests on line and received 160, 163, 163 and 171. Your logic games were phenomenal , I now feel confident with any game, still miss a few but have gained great confidence Thanks Dennis

So, I was looking for advice in the TLS forums, and pretty much everyone told me to rethink my entire life plan. The plan is (or was?) to take part in OU's early entry program, which allows me to start 1L a year early. The catch is, I don't technically have my BA until after 1L. The plan all along is that my husband and I would stay in Oklahoma, but recently we've been wondering if we would really be happy here forever. So, I was planning on doing well enough (top 5%) and applying to transfer to a T14 school. If I got in, we would move. If not, we'd stay.

Everyone in the TLS forums (all current or former law students) told me that I should reconsider this path and that I cannot bank on being in the top 5% of my class. The more I thought about it, the more it seemed like a risky plan. If I'm not able to be in the top 5% of my class, then I would be stuck in Oklahoma...forever.

Anyway, now I'm rethinking my entire life plan. Since we're not sure we would be happy living here forever, I'm leaning toward finishing my BA (graduate a year from now) and retaking the LSAT in June (unless I somehow miraculously scored over a 170 in Dec) and applying to T14 schools next cycle.

Thoughts? Good plan? Or should I stick with my previous plan? I should also mention that I am a little older than your average 1L...29. (sorry I am so needy for advice on here...)

Hey guys, this might be a really silly question but do we need to include our names and a title for our personal statement? I finished mine and i realized I'm over the page limit by a few lines and I'm wondering if i have to leave my name and a title in there because if i don't, i can save space that way. thanks in advance!

I heard it is usally earlier than officially announced.

When do ppl usually get score back?

Recently I have been having a lot of success during exercises for LR. This, to me, is a miracle since it was my weakness and what hampered me from breaking the stubborn plateau I was in. Anyway, I have found that actually drawing out LR passages when needed (SA, MBT, MBF, PSA, INF,etc) has really helped me break through some of the toughest questions. I still have issues with certain questions, obviously, but I can see a light at the end of the LR tunnel specifically because I am beginning to visualize what is occurring in the passage.

With that said, the margins we have for drawing on the exam are small, and I know I will be cutting it close if I try to visualize too much. My assumption is that, per each LR section, there are around 10-12 questions that are easily solved via visualization ( SA, MBT, MBF, etc, etc) and the drawing and analysis normally gives me an answer time of 1 minute to 2:15 depending on the difficulty of the question.

Do you guys waste time drawing and visualizing things on paper? Or have you gotten to a test taking point where visualization is mental? I would, obviously, prefer that method but am not sure I can get my brain to see things that way. I have always been a "write it down or draw it out" type of learner.

So I recently finished the curriculum and took my first PT last Friday. I improved from my diagnostic but not by a considerable margin. I definitely struggled with pacing and made some errors that I usually wouldn't make. I'm hoping that my test anxiety will go away as I take more PTs and I will be able make the gains that I have been training for. Anyway, I am registered to take the February LSAT. How many prep tests do you all recommend is a good amount to take? My target score is a 165, but I'll be happy to break 160's.

What do you do?

Such as...

only 5-6 min left and you know you cannot answer all of the questions in time.

When would you do?

Try to answer as many questions as you can or go back to previous passages and make them all correct?

the first time I took the test I got 12 on logic games , I then did games with 7sage first allowing 12 minutes an then listening to the explanations I repeated tough games and sought to get to 9 minutes and again listen to 7Sage strategies. On the first test I was very nervous running out of time. I did at least 50 games , using this course to check my strategies and answers about 2hours daily for 4-5 weeks and I got 22/23 . The two reasoning sections I kind of was a natural