So on page 180 (the irony) of the trainer, the last question of the second scenario brings up an interesting point. The scenario is sequencing with in out and the last question of the drill says "If N is performed before M, P will be performed before Q." Where only 5 elements are to be selected, does this mean that N-M guarantees that both P and Q are in? Or if one of P or Q are out, is the necessary still satisfied?

I know this is completely hypothetical and is supposed to be a drill. But I'm not sure if something similar will come up on an actual exam. Sorry if this is a silly question!

If anyone on here speaks Spanish, would you please help me translate this to English and then lawgic:

"Cuando el orden es injusto, el desórden es un comienzo de justicia."

I think it would be: "When order is unjust, disorder gives way to justice."

If that's the proper translation from Spanish to English, I am confused on how to translate it into Lawgic.

Do you think there will be a really hard LG this time around like there was for Sept 2016 (the computer virus game)?

Hello 7sagers, do any of you guys have any tips on how to improve LG timing? I'm always pushing the 35 minute mark if not going over it. I'm honestly not sure if I'm diagramming too much or if I'm just moving to slow. I have the games pretty much down its just the timing issues I'm struggling with. Thanks for reading

What is the consensus on talking about things not explicitly mentioned in your application? In a discussion about social justice, I have a sentence that goes something along the lines of:

"... I have always been inclined to help when I can. For instance, I spent a year as an ****** at *******, I have grown up serving food at ******, and I have helped organize a demonstration on campus to...."

I have listed the first under the extra-curricular section of my application, but the other two have not been mentioned because (a) I don't have a contact for the second one because I don't go on a consistent basis, and (b) there is not a relevant place for me to mention the third one. Should I just leave these two out, or are they worth keeping in there? If it helps, it is part of a larger discussion about why I want to be a lawyer, and less about listing off my accomplishments.

Hello all,

I was just wondering if I were to upgrade from Starter to Ultimate, I will get the same material as the Ultimate right? Is there a difference between upgrading from Starter to Ultimate as opposed to getting Ultimate outright. I'm on a pretty tight budget so any savings will help! Thanks!

Hi,

So I was doing LG today and met this substitution question...

In sequence games or games you combine rules do you combine rules as you read new rules or you write them separately so when you have this question you can easily notice which rule is substituted?

I was doing PT 73 game 2 and the last question, and I was not sure between B and E because both seem true :(

Hi all,

The logic game section has been the hardest section for me. As soon as I realized LG kept me from reaching 170+, I have been drilling TONs of games for the past several months. I've done drilling every single game from 1-40 for 6 times + almost all sections in 40s, all sections in 50s, and some sections in 60s (I guess that's about 1500 games). I also analyzed my mistakes by creating review notes.

So now I can finish any game and usually have 5-6minutes left after filling in the bubbles. But the problem is I constantly miss 3-4 questions... The worst part is that the questions that I miss are those that I answered with great confidence. I've thought about redoing questions after finishing the section but I think it's a very risky strategy since I can't expect I would have 5-6minutes left on the test day. Also, because I am certain that I have answered all questions correctly, I don't even know which questions I want to re-do and check my work...I have only one month left till the test day and it's really frustrating...

Does anyone have advice...?

Thanks so much!!!

Hey guys, so I started studying around June and have been going pretty consistently for about 4+ hours a day since then and I've noticed that I sometimes some neck pains that get pretty bad and result in me having to just stop studying all together for that day. Do things like that happen to you guys after a while of studying? Do you get any kind of physical pain after a lot of studying or is it just me?

Hey guys! Hope studying is going well! Recently, since starting 7sage a month ago, I've been making pretty solid progress in terms of going through the curriculum. I aiming for 15-20 hours a week. However, I'm also in school full time, and I have an internship so I've found myself burning out, but not so much because of the studying, but because everything else has been piling up. My study time has decreased a lot. Also, I have fall allergies and I live in the NYC area so it has started to get cold. This has affected my energy levels, and on top of everything else, I find myself fatigued and unable to focus which also lowers my productivity effectiveness while studying. I'm not good when it comes to time management and routines and it's hard for me to stick to them. Any help or tips on how you guys do it? Very interested in your suggestions! Thanks!

Hi.

Just joined the 7Sage.

I am from India. Currently in my second year of undergraduate studies. Would it be a wise option to pursue law in the US after my undergraduate?

Any help regarding this would be appreciated.

Hello everyone,

I've been studying for this test for the entirety of this year and have moved from a 142 Diagnostic into the 156-159 range. However my BR scores have gone from the mid 160s into the 172-177 range without any movement in my actual score in months. My weakness used to be LG but recently has shifted to RC but I have an overarching timing problem and never finish with time to spare and often have to guess on entire passages/games.

The December test is probably not going to be enough time to fix my issues so I was looking for some advice is bridging this gap. My BR scores are promising but it's so discouraging to continuously crank out scores in the 150s knowing my potential is much higher.

Please check. It seems that such application errors are prevalent after the version updates to the iOS 10.

Hey! I am currently working on my personal statement and would love some feedback. I am also more than happy to take a look at yours too and do a little switcha-roo!

Am I the only one who from time to time wishes it could just be a research paper....lol

For those getting consistently - 0 in LG, how do you guys do in timing?

Do you usually have bunch of time left after doing all 4 games? or do you need full 34 min (excluding 1min for bubbling)?

Proctors: Older volunteers

Facilities: Tests are administered in classrooms at Suffolk Law. Bathrooms are accessible.

What kind of room: Classroom. No windows.

How many in the room: 25-35

Desks: We sat evenly spaced along long tables. It was a comfortable set up--room to spread

Left-handed accommodation: yes

Noise levels: Dead silent. The room had no windows so no ambient noise could seep in

Parking: Street parking and school lot

Time elapsed from arrival to test: No irregularities in time

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 10/15

I can't be the only 40+ person here who is going to change careers? Chime in if you fall into that group - and if you want to create a skype type study group.

Dumb question....I know, but it eases my anxiety :D Will 7sage still be around in 3 years when I need to study for the LSAT??? This forum is so awesome and everyone says the prep course is so amazing so I just reallllllllly want to be able to use it when I study:)

Hi,

When you do LG do you always have complete, perfect diagram like JY's?

I found I often have diagrams that are incomplete...very similar to JY's but did not have enough inference or did not divide into sub game boards etc.

Does this happen to you or am I just not mature enough on LG yet?

Thanks

My cumulative GPA is blank - my degree summary GPA is 4.0 - any idea why that is?

Hello friends. I am eyeballs deep in 1L. I just wanted to pop in and say that:

1) Law school is insane but insanely beautiful

2) Enjoy your life before law school (see #1)

Law school is all consuming but I often think of you all with the warmest of feelings. This is helpful as an alternative heat source as it is getting cold in Chicago.

<3 to all

Hey guys! Since I know a lot of you just took the September LSAT, I wanted to hold a little contest of sorts. It's relatively simple, nothing flashy-- but the 3 people who post the most detailed, well-written review will get our Admissions Starter course for free. If you already have our Admissions Starter course, you'll get a +1 month extension.

Here's the details:

All you have to do to be eligible is post a review of any test center at which you took an officially administered LSAT (anyone is eligible for up to 3 entries).

Instructions:

• Make a new discussion post in the "Test Center Reviews" category and entitle it like this: "[Test Center Review] Test Center, City, State/Country"

Proctors:

Facilities:

What kind of room:

How many in the room:

Desks:

Left-handed accommodation:

Noise levels:

Parking:

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Irregularities or mishaps:

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again?

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

Examples of some well-written test center reviews:

--https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/8859/test-center-review-cedarville-university

--https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6873/test-center-review-northeastern-university-boston-ma

--https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6887/test-center-review-furman-university-greenville-sc

I'll be choosing 3 winners on Oct. 25, 2016.

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I am wondering whether taking the LSAT a third time is going to be helpful. I took the September LSAT and I am 3-4 points away from my ideal score. The thing is, I used up almost all of the preptests (or if not all, definitely all the new ones). I am set on applying for this cycle and can only write in December.

How would I go about studying/practicing for December in the little time left and without any really fresh PT's?

Hi everyone,

My undergrad institution has a co-op program that most undergrads take part in. Starting in sophomore year you have the option to alternate between 6 months of full-time work and then a regular academic semester. So my undergrad career was 5 years, and for 3 of those years I was on co-op January-July then class as normal from Sept.-December.

These gaps are shown on my transcript and reflected on my resume. Will admissions understand this plainly? Or should I write an addendum explaining

Mine will be to get my M.A. in Economics and go down that path. Being from the Detroit area, I have some big 3 connections and I've had internships with GM and Lotus. My long time mentor ran Hummer for GM , between 1999-2004 and he's always said that there's a senior forecasting job with my name on it. Hedge fund managing would be fun as well.