Good morning guys. Was hoping I can get some insight on a recent phenomena I encountered on my last 3 PT scores.

A week ago I was so excited to have finally broken 170+. I got a 173 on PT 30. I think I must have gotten cocky or overconfident because on the next test I did (PT 54) I got a 160! My most recent test was PT 21, which was a 172.

Has this ever happened to anyone of you? I'm a little concerned since we pretty much have a week till game day so I just want to see what loose ends I can tie up. I know that my mindset of being cocky may have had a large impact. Any suggestions as to how I can be more consistent in staying in the 170 range would be much appreciated. Thanks guys!

Hi guys,

I only have 7 raw tests left. I'm taking the September administration but would like to keep approx. 3-4 raw tests on hand in the event that all does not go as planned and I end up taking December as well. I can't decide if it's best to go ahead and take all the 70 series I have left or save one or two just in case. I'd appreciate any advice on which PTs to take between now and September 24.

Here's my list of available PTs:

PT59

PT60

PT67

PT70

PT72

PT76

Superprep II Undisclosed PT

Might be a known fact already but just in case anyone is wondering, according to the folks at LSAC as of today, the ticket can be printed in black & white or color, and if you choose to wear glasses instead of contacts on test day (but aren't wearing glasses in either of your photos), it will not affect your admission. :)

One of the letters of recommendation id like to use would come from a professor i had while i was in Spain. He asked if he could write the recommendation in Spanish would that be acceptable or would Law Schools not accept it.

I remember seeing that some people were offering tutoring, is that still going on?

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Hey everyone!

I've finally officially finished the Core curriculum. WOO! There's still MUCH to improve, but I'm feeling pretty good about myself. Ready to gear up for the December LSAT!

Taking my first PT this evening post curriculum and am hoping that my confidence won't mislead me. AKA if my score is lower than I thought, I won't let it bring me down and use this as a great learning experience to improve much more on the ones to come. Positive mindset FTW.

How have you all attacked this beast post-curriculum? I work full-time 8-5 Mon through Frid and have been studying after work almost every night for 2-4 hours and on the weekend for 3-6 hours each day.

I'm thinking maybe two PT's plus BR every week? Like take a PT Monday, BR Tues and Weds, take a break Thursday, Drill Friday, and take another PT Saturday and BR Sunday. Or something along those guidelines.

Would love to hear everyone's suggestions/ideas.

Hi everyone! I'm in the process of deciding what schools to apply to, and what area of Law I hope to practice.

I'm interested in Social Justice, Human Rights, and Aboriginal law, and want to start seeing what kind of jobs are out there, with what kind of pay scale. Anyone have any good sites that will help me find some information? Google just sends me to a lot of sites that are dump-all for all kinds of law jobs (clerks, secretaries) as well as no way to filter out types of law I'm not interested in.

Thanks!

Hello guys so I have a question. Whenever doing timed sections/PTs I always used to go into them with the mindset of attempting all of the questions be it LG,RC or LR. However needless to say, I never get to all of them. I usually get about 3 games done,3 passages and I usually end up attempting between 19-22 questions in LR.

What I noticed when I go into a PT with the mindset of finishing each section is that I do end up making careless mistakes that could've been avoided had I been just a bit more prudent. I ended up speaking with someone and they advised me that to get better with time, that I should start off not going into a section with the intention of finishing it but with the intention of getting the ones I attempt correct. And once I start getting high accuracy, to then start being aggressive and start attempting a bit more questions little at a time.

At first I hated the idea because how could someone with a certain goal in mind NOT finish the whole section? But once I thought about it, going into a section with the mindset of only completing 3 passages/games and 19-22 LR questions may not be such a bad idea because that is how much I usually get complete whenever I AM attempting to finish the section ANYWAY. So I came to the conclusion that trying that method should at bare minimum keep my score where it is at if not better because now I would be focusing more on the problems I am attempting and being more prudent in the hopes of eliminating careless mistakes.

I took a PT on Saturday with this method and just like I predicted, I ended up getting the same score I would have gotten were I going in with the mindset of completing each section.(Probably would have done worse actually seeing as how it was a pretty tricky exam and slowing down probably helped me get more points that I would not have otherwise gotten).

So in all, I guess my question is, has anyone on here ever used the what I like to call, "work your way up method"? And if so, how did it work out for you? And even if you haven't used it I would love to hear your opinions on this method. It'd be much appreciated. Thank you!

Hi Everyone,

I don't know if this thread exists but I thought I would make one. I am really into apps that help me stay productive, organized, allow me to see the tasks I am working on, as well as how long I have stayed productive in a day. Please feel free to suggest any apps that help you all stay effective and focused on LSAT. :)

1. Trello: This is my #1 site. I have a board for LSAT and Habbits (LSAT) that I like to implement. Because LSAT can have so many components,LR,LG, RC, drills, PT, etc, it was hard sometimes for me to know the different things I was working on. I used to feel pretty stressed about keeping tabs on everything I need to work on and scheduling those things. This helps me visually see everything, schedule key drills on days, etc. Plus you can color code things. It's pretty damn good. The only drawback is that somehow my google and apple calendar don't automatically update when I make changes to my Trello calendar. This makes it hard for me to see everything LSAT related on a calendar unless I am logged in to Trello or I manually re-post my link on my calendars. P.S. I have the free account, and it works great. Anyone can make it.

2. Pomello: This keeps track of the hours I study on LSAT. This helps me see clearly the hours I have been productive in a day. The best thing about it is that you can log in Pomello your Trello account and you can access your boards. So you don't have to enter everything twice, and you can see how long you worked on something. It also schedules break for you, etc. I have only recently started using Pomello, so I don't see any drawbacks yet.

3. Stay Focused: I love this website. I have a hard time with staying off facebook etc. So I use this site to block it. You can just google this, and add it to your chrome. The best thing about this is that you can set the time you allow yourself on these websites. I have basically allowed myself 30 minutes total in a day surfing the websites. But you can change it. So its not a complete withdrawal from social life, but it is helpful in setting a limit for myself the time I am allowed to waste on them. :)

4. Productive: I have this app on my phone. It helps you develop a good habit. On a free account, you can have upto 5 habits that you would like to work on, which I think is plenty. I think one habit at a time is the best way to go because its hard to change as a person. It's extremely simple, gives you notifications, you can mark it complete, skip it, take notes etc. For example, I wanted to make it a habit to read an article from Scientific American before going to bed every night. It wasn't easy, but wanting to see my habit in the app go green helped me develop the habit of reading at least an article per night.

5. Flux: I thought I would add this, even though it's not a productivity app. You can download this app from google and it basically uses your location to adjust the brightness of the screen. So in the morning or at night you are not facing this harsh blue screen. It makes looking at the laptop any time of the day easy on the eyes and I think it helps in my eyes not feeling as tired. This is particularly helpful because I am always on my laptop, 7 sage or anything else. So I recommend it.

If you have any other apps or sites that help you stay productive please let me know. I am sucker for them because they are so helpful :)

Some may laugh and think "practice makes perfect", but I feel this exam has the tendency to catch up to people who have submerged themselves into the exam and get to their heads like a nasty Criss Angel. I started studying at the beginning of May, working through the program during my summer. August 1st hit and I had only written 1 PT (at the beginning of the summer). I postponed till December because I didn't want to rush, and I had a goal of writing at least 10-15 exams before Sept24. Not being ready scared the shit out of me and I vowed to not let that feeling come back in November, so come Sept.1 I sat down with 30+ purchased exams with the goal of completing them all before December. I'm already a student at McGill university, but I've planned it out to write 2-3 (hopefully 3) exams a week. Obviously it sucks not being able to go out and get shitfaced with my friends on a Tuesday, but this exam is my top priority! So i ask: is doing 3 exams a week until Dec a bad idea if I can stay on top of all my other school work? .

I have not done any of the Preptests in the 70's. I am sitting for the September exam. Should I be focusing on these instead of the earliest tests? Are they easier/harder generally?

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Greetings all 7sagers!

I have noticed over the last few weeks that the discussions seem to be getting more and more panicked/negative/self-doubting/worried/pensive/etc. I am as neurotically worried as anyone about the LSAT (and it is less that two weeks away!) and I am in need of some inspiration! I think it makes sense to not complain about what others are not doing but to instead be the change you want to see in the world. Soooooo.....

Is anyone else excited about the opportunity to finally put this all of this practice and learning to the test (pun intended!). Come glorious conquering or complete failure or somewhere in between it will be a great challenge and one I can accept the outcome of because I am going to give it a great shot. Everything I have. And at the end of the day my score does not define me whether good or bad. If I score a 180 that does not define me. If I score a 120 that does not define me.

What a cool opportunity. I hope all of you get your rest, exercise, eat well, do a little last minute review, and enjoy family and friends.

Please respond AND start your own discussion with your own spin on something positive. Let's make the discussion board a place for both lament/worry/fear AND fearlessness/encouragement/joy.

Hey there,

I'm set to take September, and at this point postponing isn't an option. I've been studying for a while and PTing under simulated conditions for around 3 weeks now. I've hit sort of a plateau it seems around 166 and just wondering how to push through to break that 170 mark or even if that's possible between now and the September test? I was going consistent -0 on games for a while then hit a slump for some reason started getting -4, now back to a good -1/-0 range but it seems when my games are good my RC slips. I've been able on individual timed sections test to get -2 in LR and -3 in RC so it seems it's a matter of putting it all together, but I'm just struggling in getting to that point. Any input/advice would be greatly appreciated. Timing does seem to be a hurdle sometimes depending on which questions I get stuck on and still trying to figure out how to get better at skipping.

Thanks in advance!!

I'm currently creating the hardest LSAT ever, I have searched for the hardest game questions, and the hardest Reading Comp questions, now I need help with the hardest LR questions, there are too many of them and im trying to keep them in a large range so please send me suggestions and I'll build the test. its a good challenge hope people like it.

Hi Folks,

So I'm currently in that fun period where I've finished the curriculum and have been working my way through 3-4 months worth of prep tests. I've found the analytics are really helpful in determining where I'm lacking. I'm trying to determine how you make the best of that information. I work full-time so I don't have as much time as a student might, but I attempt to take 3 prep tests a week. I do my BR, go through my missed questions at that point, and then try to shore up my weaknesses. I don't have unlimited time- so determining how to make those weaknesses less soft is what I focus on.

How do others do this? Do you review old curriculum and drill? I've been reviewing in the curriculum on my weak points and running through a few drills, but I find my lackluster performance in these same weak areas goes mostly unchanged with the next prep test. Is there a specific way I need to approach addressing these weaknesses?

Also another factor is I take awhile to BR. For example, Games are really really hard for me. And despite the extensive games curriculum with this course I find I still only get to two games in a test so my BR is basically me redoing half of the games section. When I BR I often times can figure the other games out if I sit down and work through it without JY's video, It just might take an hour or two to get through it all. So for areas like that where I am struggling- I know the curriculum, I've drilled games before (because all games are the same right?) but I know that I'm weak in something like In/Out Seq games, or something like that. How do you go about addressing those weaknesses for yourself? Do you have a different method for LR or other sections? My Flaw/Method Reasoning questions are my biggest weakness and I review the curriculum and drill those but find that the performance is unchanged.

Any help that can be provided is most appreciated, thank you.

I see controls in the lower left corner to change the video playback speed, but clicking on them does nothing. The buttons appear in Chrome, but not in Firefox (on Windows 7). I'm using the most recent version of flash. Are we supposed to be able to adjust the playback speed? I would really like to be able to use this feature.

Can anyone with the logic games bundle tell me the specific layout?

I was lucky enough to get the Cambridge Packets pdfs and PTs all in PDF form before the ban. However, I wanted to build my own "bundle" using my PDFs.

Were they arranged by difficulty/type ? Or were they literally just the game sections from PTs 1-35 in order?

Thank you in advance :)

Hi folks,

On average for a single Practice Tests, I will have a combined 5-7 questions marked for BR on Logical Reasoning. I have now reached the point where every single time I mark something for BR, I actually got it right the first time. The good news is that upon BR, I agree with my first answer so at least I am consistent.

The bad news is that every single question I get wrong I don't even mark. So the issue is I that I'm ignorant of what I'm getting wrong. I'm scoring fairly highly (high 160's - low 170s) but this pattern is starting to bother me. Does this mean I am plateau'ing or reaching my ceiling? I will say that most of the time my wrong answers are due to misreading or falling for easy traps that are pretty easily understood once I actually look at the question, granted this is with the hindsight of having seen the answer key and knowing that my answer choice is wrong.

What do you think?

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/studying-too-much-for-lsat-when.html

This made me laugh and sometimes you just need to laugh before you can hit the studying hard again.

Trying to clear up my mind before the big day :)

1. Conclusion (most accurately expresses the conclusion)

- Usual structure: contextual + HOWEVER, point + supporting premises

- In this case, it helps to paraphrase the sentence following 'however' (turning point)

ex) Some farmers reported that pesticide A was not effective to kill B. However, they are mistaken. The method they used to measure the effectiveness was completely wrong blah blah

- Answer: Some farmers are mistaken with the effectiveness of the pesticide A.

2. MBT

- It has to be TRUE. so, when the answer choices contain a somewhat extreme word such as 'All', 'any', 'never', 'impossible'

it's helpful to check them. They might be too broad or too specific or too dramatic.

- Sometimes you just need to diagram with all the conditionals and find the one matches with that conditionals. In this case, valid arguments courses are just great. Focus on the relationship with 'All','any','Every' and 'most', 'some', 'few'.

- And mind the direction of the conditional arrows! Sometimes answers with reversed arrows seem so tempting.

3. MBF

- It has to be FALSE. so usually I think this type of question has quite complex conditionals and the answer is just lying in somewhere between these complex arrows. Usually I think the wrong answers have either different scope or reversed directions. So in this case, we don't know if this will be true or not.(CBT/CBF).

- But the right answer(MBF) will negate one of the arrows outright.

ex) All the farmers in the western village have both cows and cats.

- Answer: Jake, a farmer in the western village, doesn't have cows. (something like that...)

4. FLAW

- There are too many flaw questions. (duh...)

- The answer choices describe what the argument did (something wrong)/didn't (do something he/she supposed to do to make a valid argument)

- It really helps if we can see the flaw before we move on to the answer choices.

- I think "Correlations->Causation" and "Sufficient->Necessary(or the other way around)" are the two popular types.

- And I also saw many "source attack", "pretending it is the only way and there is no other way", "I only see what I want to see(only mentions about the benefits or negatives", "unrepresentative sample", "It's either A or /A (no middle ground)", "from capability or probability to definiteness (she is capable of doing it so she will do it)" etc.

- When the answer choices describe something in categorical terms with lots of referential talks, it is always helpful to match each phrases with the ones in the argument.

Not sure if this would be helpful but...

I guess so far this is what I've learned and felt. It would be great if you guys can share some more! :)

Hey guys, hope the studying is going well. I have a question about PT scores that maybe some of the more experienced members can answer. To date I have taken 6 PTs, including my diagnostic. My score had been hovering around the 160 mark, until earlier this week when I took PT 68 and scored a 162. I was quite happy about that increase in score, despite the fact that it was only a 2 point increase over my average. Today I took PT 69 and scored a 171. I was ecstatic to say the least.

My question is if this huge improvement was a reflection of a statistical anomaly/easier test, or if this a true reflection of my increased ability. I know it's hard to say without more data, and I do intend to take at least 4 more tests prior to writing on the 24th. I would just like some opinions from those of you that have knowledge about these sort of occurrences.

Thanks guys, and all the best to those of you who are writing on the 24th!

Hi guys, I am taking this Sep LSAT and it's so soon now!

I studied LSAT 3 years ago, took 2013 October(157) and December LSAT(162) and I felt I was at the rock bottom.

Didn't have the courage to take another one so I stopped.

After that I went to a grad school, did some internship, time has passed, thought I should give myself another chance.

I studied from January trying to get back to the shape and it has been quite pleasant.

From march to June I couldn't study much due to the school works and from July I have been studying full-time.

On average I got 168-170 on my PTs, even had a feeling I finally got LR. (avrg. -2/section)

But with the pt 70 and 76, I felt quite awful, suddenly it all seemed so above my reach.

With less than two weeks, I am just trying to do drilling by section, trying not to choke on it.

Is this burn-out or am I just not ready for it?

Any advice?

Thank you in advance and wish all the good luck for those who are taking this September one!

I'm finding a pattern where the questions I mostly get wrong are inference and flaw, more so inference however.

I don't have a problem diagramming (at least I think I don't) but I seem to be misunderstanding the questions a lot!

What do you guys suggest? Am I overthinking the questions, how can I improve in these two types of questions?

Thanks!